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Video Podcast: Scheer on 9/11

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Posted on Sep 15, 2006
Robert Scheer

Join Truthdig Editor Robert Scheer for a conversation related to his essay “Gaping Holes in the 9/11 Narrative,” in which he addresses conspiracy theories, Iraq, and the folly of the Bush administration.


 

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    By alice, October 15, 2006 at 4:25 pm Link to this comment
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    Am I going nuts here. . .Jesus Christ, have the invasion of the body snatchers gotten everyone to believe their 9/11 “official story”.  Are people already outfitted with micro chips, including Scheer??? What’s with the left-wing media??  They believe the neo-cons “official story” but they think they’ve lied about everything else.  Lies up to 9/11, and then lies after 9/11. But the 9/11 “official story” not a lie.  Yeah, right.  Get off your high horses; it’s obvious, you haven’t really checked out the facts otherwise you would know it was an inside job!!  For heavens sake, please can’t you see the obvious????  My husband believes the “official story” too.  He may have been body snatched too.  Is he really my husband.  Of course he is, he just hasn’t wanted to look at the facts.  He watches his sports and his porn.  I kinda of think the rest of the population is just afraid to interrupt their comfortable lifes and it would really be inconvenient for them to know, because then they might have to do something.

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    By Phil G., September 20, 2006 at 12:42 pm Link to this comment
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    Paul Thompson who carefully documented all mainstream media reports around 9/11 in his book “The Terror Timeline” comes to the conclusion that the ‘9/11 issue is a lot bigger than Watergate’.
    There is more and more scientific analysis that the WTC collapses were at least, “assisted” by pre-planted explosives.
    You may choose to take the easy way out and try to dismiss all this as ‘crazy conspiracy theory’.
    But before you do, check at least once the ‘Scholars For 9/11 Truth’ site http://www.st911.org and see who are these “crazies” saying so…
    Yes, the underground flick ‘Loose Change’ has all sorts of weak points but do consider that if ONLY ONE of those claims is correct, the official version collapses faster than the Towers did on 9/11.
    And then, as the Loose Change director commented to Vanity Fair “the sh*t is going to hit the fan” and we may have the “Second American Revolution”!

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    By osisbs, September 20, 2006 at 6:38 am Link to this comment
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    Why can’t we catch and interrogate Bin Laden?  Well, for the same reason we cannot catch or interrogate Lee Harvey Oswald.  Because both of them are CIA agents and both of them are scapegoats in government black ops to increase fear and terror in the world in order to build up a massive military/industrial complex and rake in huge amount of money. 
    Why did Bush fly the entire Bin Laden family out of the US on 9/12?  Why was Lee Harvey Oswald who defected to the USSR in the middle of the McCarthy Era allowed to return to the USA without so much as a slap on the wrist?  Go ahead and try that today.  Defect and try to get back.  I dare ya.

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    By Bill Vigneri, September 16, 2006 at 9:15 am Link to this comment
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    I, too, have been questioning the “official” story of 911 since the moment it began to be reported. I received a very cryptic revelation in May of ‘01…four months before 911 occurred. I drove a taxicab in Omaha, Ne. for many yrs. I gave a ride to our airport, an individual who told me he was a 22yr. vet of USAF Special Ops. I asked this gentleman what he thought of our new president. He, in turn, prefaced his answer by informing me that he had been a staunch republican voter for his entire voting life and that what he was about to tell me, he would flatly deny ever saying if this statement ever were referred back to him. I chuckled and told him “who would ever believe me.. a cab driver.. over him.. a decorated vet..” He then said, and this is a direct quote, “President Bush is going to get a lot of Americans killed!” I looked in this gentleman’s eyes as he related this to me and it literally sent chills down my spine. If anyone reading this knows about military protocol concerning speaking of their Commander in Chief you understand that making a statement such as that is not… under penalty of law… allowed. I forgot that statement until 3 days after 911. When I recalled that conversation I lost control of my emotions for several hrs. I have done yrs. of research since 911 and have learned much in addition to much that I already knew about how our air defences operate as well as many other sujects connected to events that transpired that day. I point no direct finger at anyone in particular but I do understand that the events that occurred that morning had to have been allowed to transpire by some individual or group of individuals connected to our leadership. Ever since NORAD has been in operation no airplane has been allowed to fly off-course from within or from outside this country without finding out what the problem might be…certainly for the length of time that those four airplanes were… on 911. You can access FAA’s website to see how normal investigations occurr when airplanes go off course. This has been true before and after 911.
    There have been many misleading statements by top officials since moment 1 of 911. There used to be a record ..online.. with two weeks of TV coverage from every major newscast set-up on half-hr. segments that was accessible from a general search of “TV archives 911” that is no longer available. I spent many hrs. reviewing those newscasts US and foreign. Certainly, much newscasting is confusing and misleading and just plain false but some is also very revealing and truthful. I wish I had downloaded the entire archive but sadly I did not. I hope that someone else has and can contact me @ .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) so that I might gleen more useful info. My contention, since moment 1, has been to see that whoever is responsible, regardless their stature, is brought to JUSTICE which is sadly lacking in this once Great country of ours!

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    By barbara edelman, September 15, 2006 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment
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    I found the video podcast very compelling. I think that Mr. Scheer has an authority on screen that brings the concepts to life.  I also liked the way the questions were intercut, the black and white starkness of the questions focused and refocused my attention on the subject matter.  People are very confused about these issues.  A video clip, on line, by an articulate, intelligent, authority goes a long way to clear up some of the confusion created by the lies and subterfuge consistently presented by pundits on main stream t.v.

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    By Donovan, September 15, 2006 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment
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    You’re absolutely right, Carol Jones, there is quite a monumental difference between treason and incompetence.  My point, which I rarely effectively make, had nothing to do with legalities.  Your comment has its place among the arguments for impeachment, that is whether high crimes and misdemeanors were committed and can be proved.  My point was that it doesn’t matter what the truth is because the truth is not what Bush & Co. are preaching.

    My whole life I’ve always assented to the rendering of conspiracy theories as useless and their proponents being nutcases, while simultaneously heading the commentary of those free-thinking, intelligent speakers who regard the government as criminal.  So on all of these issues regarding 9/11 I feel pretty centerline with my approach.  An approach from which most people fail to come.  Too often I read/hear someone state that it’s the Democrats’ (or Republicans’) fault.  That’s just nuts to blame an ubiquitous motif such as 9/11, or any facet thereof, on a political party when its obvious to someone who doesn’t support either party that all politicians share the blame.

    Chris Rock said in his Bigger, Better, Blacker standup routine that he’s conservative on some issues and liberal on others, that is’s stupid to have contentions on a topic before you even know anything about it simply because you associate with a political party.

    Basically I was trying to say that either way you look at it, the Administration needs to be replaced pronto.

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    By Nick, September 15, 2006 at 11:16 am Link to this comment
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    An interesting clip shining some light on the reasons for the 9/11 commissions     disgraceful report. However, after watching the loose change 911 conspiracy video I am completely convinced that it was orchestrated by the government of the United States, whether Bush was even informed about the attack seems irrelevant to me as he is clearly a puppet manipulated whenever necessary. None the less even if key witnesses failed to be accessible how can the crater minus the wreckage in the ground be justified as evidence to prove a plane crashed there? The insignificant hole in the Pentagon and the lack of scarring of the grass around it? Not forgetting the commission’s official reason for the towers falling being something along the lines along the lines of the huge steel frames actually melting??? This is a post mainly to generate a responses and answers which I genuinely hope somebody will provide me with! I would like nothing more than to believe that the events of 9/11 were nothing more than “terrorism.” However, unless some other ground breaking evidence is actually brought to light I feel that the atrocity was nothing more than the Bush administrations (not directly bush himself)  plot to create such a public outcry that war justified under the lamest of all excuses was back by a majority of both the American and British public.

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    By Carol Jones, September 15, 2006 at 10:36 am Link to this comment
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    I disagree when you say it is not an issue whether the administration lied or was incompetent. It is integral and not just around the issue of the war in Iraq.  I believe people understand the difference between purposely misleading and incompetent. That understanding has helped feed the public’s belief of a conspiracy around the events of 9-11.

    If you believe they lied and had alterior motives for going into Iraq (oil, Israel) then you can look at the fact that the 9-11 commission didn’t get the access to witnesses and understand why. Intention also makes the case for impeachment all that more important.

    The fact that the administration’s “motives” for going to war in Iraq have changed many times (WMD, democracy etc.) is not the action of incompetence. There is intent behind that. This is not to say that there hasn’t been incompetence in the execution but there has been a clear deception of the American people.  That is criminal. It is like the difference between fraud and the inability to balance your cheque book. Big difference.

    Why is it that many of the “19 ” named participants are still alive and living in Saudi Arabia etc and tell of stolen passports. Yes who were those ” 19”?  Does holding back someones ability to find that and all the other aspects of many actions by this administration follow as the actions of an incompetent administration or a deliberately misleading one?

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    By erroll garner, September 15, 2006 at 10:32 am Link to this comment
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    when you have a major, world changing event, and no trial and all the evidence spirited away, there’s only one place to look for the perps-
    Bush/Nazi/Klan.
    JFK, MLK, RFK, Wellstone, Lennon, etc.
    They have ruined our world.
    It’s obvious to those of us who wish to see.
    And for all of you who want to support the official story-YOU are supply side bullies, and you know it. Go live in prison where your style is the way of life.

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    By Paul, September 15, 2006 at 8:51 am Link to this comment
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    People are aware of what is going on in this country relating to our governments recent functions, but we are ill equiped to confront an institution who relies on the 14 ammendment to fully fund it’s vision of the future.

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    By Louis N. Proyect, September 15, 2006 at 8:13 am Link to this comment
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    Robert, your hairdo is ridiculous. Not only is it not 1969, you are not 25 years old. Get it cut short. When one’s hair has turned gray, a close-cropped Paul Newman look is very flattering.

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    By George A. Hoffman, September 15, 2006 at 7:20 am Link to this comment
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    Robert,
    I really enjoyed your interview on Truthdig’s podcast of the conspiracy theories that have emerged since the 9/11 attacks and agree that all these conspiracy theorists are unfortunately the natural result of the lies, suppression of facts and the political straight-jacket imposed upon the 9/11 commission by the Bush administration. But as a British reporter, I think, observed during the Cremean War, the first casualty of war is the truth.
    Of course, as a Vietnam War veteran, I fear that a similiar dynamic is heading toward a tragic denounment; namely, as the war spins out of the control of the principal players within the Belt Way and in the Middle East, we will see the carnage and slaughter of innocent civilians spread to neighboring countries. Who would have thought that when the Marines waded ashore on China Beach near Danang in 1964 to be greeted by young Vietnamese women with flowers in a now infamous photo-op orchestrated by the LBJ administration, the truly iconic images would be of an entirely different nature (the photo of the South Vietnamese general executing a suspected VC guerilla on a street in Saigon during the Tet Offensive of 1968, the helicopters carrying American and Vietnamese evacuees from the landing pad on top of the American embassy in Saigon during the collapse of the Republic of South Vietnam, and of course the stacks of human skulls collected after the Khmer Rouge’s reign of terror in Cambodia)?
    In my wildest imagination, based upon my experiences in Vietnam, I would have never thought that a future American president could have committed a foreign policy debacle comparable to what happened during the Vietnam War. Yet this quagmire in the sand exceeds the hubris of the LBJ administration and the New Frontiermens that prosecuted the Vietnam War after the assassination of JFK.
    In a recent Seymour Hersh article in The New Yorker, he reported that career military officers within the Pentagon had to fight tooth and nail against the neocon cabal of Rumsfeld and Cheney to dissuade the Bush administration’s contemplation of possibly using tactical nuclear weapons against Iranian facilities in the event of a “shock and awe” air war campaign. This is a delusional madness that even the late film director Stanley Kubrick could never have envisioned in his anti-war film, Dr. Strangelove.
    I think that the average American citizen has been manipulated so cynically by the Rove propaganda war machine within the oval office, that conspiracy theories surrounding the 9/11 attacks reflect the pervasive feeling of political helpnessness felt by citizens in our country, the political void which they rushed in to fill with their conspiracy theories, created by the neocon idealogues’ deception and suppression of the facts.
    Of course, the real concern underlying your podcast, at least from my point of view, is: How much longer can this country and federal government limp along in such a highly dysfunctional manner and still remain a functioning democracy? If, after the coming November mid-term national elections, President Bush decides to bomb Iran without authorization from Congress, we may have reached a dark tipping point in the troubled narrative of this unique experiment in democracy.
    Perhaps, given my formative experiences as a young man serving in the Vietnam War during the Tet Offensive of 1968, I am being too pessimistic and also paranoid in my musings. But my intuition and gut feeling tell me that the worse is yet to come in the remaining years of the Bush administration. As Bette Davis stated to the party-goers in All About Eve: Fasten your seat belt, you’re in for a bumpy ride.

    Sincerely,

    George A. Hoffman

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    By Donovan, September 15, 2006 at 6:08 am Link to this comment
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    Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary
    patriotism: devoted love, support, and defense of one’s country.

    Country, not government. There’s only two ways to look at this debacle: one, the government is deliberately subversive to the ideals and laws of such screeds as the Constitution and the Geneva Convention in such a manner that can be described as conspiratory; or, two, the government is incompetent to the supporting the same ideals and laws despite their goal.  Any other view is delusional.

    Even if the government were to be granted the benefit of the doubt as to whether they’re the true evil doers, then no one can say that they’re performing their duties as should be.  So either way they need to be replaced.

    Every time I read or listen to someone saying something in defense of the government I ponder as to how they’d react if Rumsfeld let out all his skelatons from the closet and confessed to something monumental like the government planned 9/11 or Iraq was invading to get the oil or something else and the American people were duped on purpose.  I bet they’d stop defending the government real fast because their arguments come off as though they idolize these politicians, that they can do no wrong.

    Dissent is patriotic, not blind adoration.

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    By tom, September 15, 2006 at 6:08 am Link to this comment
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    Excellent Mr. Scheer, everything you said was on the money. As time passes and the government continues down the slippery slope it has itself created, it won’t matter whether or not they actually ushered in the attacks of 9/11, directly carried them out, or simply allowed them to occur.

    I happen to believe the government at the VERY LEAST ushered in elements of the ISI, Mossad, or some other ‘black op’ organization/assets (or all of the above) to carry out the attacks while deliberately ‘standing down’ on the homefront. To believe otherwise requires an enormous leap of logic and steadfastness to an incredible string of coincedences/security failures.

    Although there seems to be no DIRECT proof- motive, circumstantial evidence, and the subsequent whitewash/cover up makes this prospect as likely as anything else(and in my opinion more so considering the track record these last five years).

    Even if the administration comes clean with ALL the full motion frame-by-frame video from every camera around the Pentagon, testing to verify a lack of high explosive residues in the rubble and publicly presented the full wreckages and black boxes from all the alleged aircraft, it will be a case of ‘too little, too late’. In this digital/technological age, after so much time has passed ANYTHING can be staged/rigged especially when you have an unlimited budget and no sense of decency or morality(as they have blatantly shown the entire planet, directly or indirectly).

    In my eyes and the eyes of many many other people worldwide, the individuals in power today are flagrantly UN-AMERICAN(sadly, with few exceptions) and should be tried and convicted of HIGH TREASON(not to mention horrific war crimes and a slew of additional offenses). Period. End of story.

    ‘Oh, what tangled webs we weave, when we first practice to deceive.’—Sir Walter Scott

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