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Utah Sen. Hatch Speaks Up for Manhattan ‘Mosque’

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Posted on Sep 1, 2010
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Certain of his less charitable constituents may have referred to him as “Borin’ Orrin” in the past, but longtime Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch has done something pretty interesting in relation to the Park 51 Muslim community center near Ground Zero in Manhattan.

Being Mormon, Hatch has no doubt run up against his share of intolerance in various circles, but regardless of where it comes from, he has broken with many of his conservative colleagues and voiced his support for Park 51 in the name of freedom of religious expression.  —KA

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By RayLan, September 4, 2010 at 8:06 pm Link to this comment

Gosh this article drew the bigoted roaches out of the woodwork. The mosque issue is simply a media/politica event to spur the anti-Islam core on the right to cause a distraction from the real issues. The mosque can only ‘remind’ victims if they have already assumed that 9/11 was necessarily synomous with Islam.

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By Tobysgirl, September 4, 2010 at 9:48 am Link to this comment

Benito, I hate to disillusion you, but this nation was not founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. Ben Franklin did not like the influx of Germans into this country prior to the American Revolution because he didn’t think they understood freedom and would continue to speak German rather than English. All of my ancestors arrived in this country prior to or during the Revolution; they were of German, English, Scots, and Welsh heritage, the Welsh coming from Nova Scotia because they were anti-Tory. I am aware of Crispus Attucks, but I believe he was very unusual.

Unfortunately, we are a nation of people who do not believe in the Constitution. Those who tout the Constitution are usually those most ignorant of it, and most contemptuous of it. When polled, people think the Bill of Rights is a Communist document. People came here from countries with state churches and just cannot comprehend that the American state was intended to be a secular one, despite Massachusetts’ taxing of its citizens to support a state church after the Constitution was passed. Back in those days, Baptists were very enthusiastic about the state staying out of the church business.

The Islamic cultural center is a terrific nonissue to dangle in front of stupid American noses. While your country is going down the toilet due to the depradations of the oligarchs, you can march around, hold tea parties, and scream about mosques. We have a lot of vicious people in this country who would be thrilled to see fascism the law of the land.

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By Sodium-Na, September 3, 2010 at 8:19 am Link to this comment

Re: PatrickHenry,September 2 at 6:22 pm.

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We should repeal the 17th amendment and have state senators elected by our state legislators.

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PatrickHenry,

What you have suggested is an excellent idea,if the country is NOT divided between Tea-ers and perhaps Coffee-ers who vehemently disagree with what each group stands for!!

It would also be positively constructive if it is possible to eliminate presidential election whose cost has become UNREAL and only the candidates supported by PERSONS called CORPORATIONS can win future elections!!

It seems to me,if we have a Parliamentarian system like Britain,for instant,with a President as a FIGURE-HEAD,elected by the legislators,most like,the effect of the ominous decision which has considered CORPORATIONS AS PERSONS would be less effective.

When Justice Thomas was quoted saying “This is only the beginning”,I wonder where all what had already been decided would lead to!! Fascism?

Your guess is as good as mine. I do not know.

Therefore,attempting to repeal anything in favor of the average citizens,the majority of the American people,is simply not going to happen in the feasible future. Target the long-run.

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By Peter Knopfler, September 2, 2010 at 5:50 pm Link to this comment

E_E_EDL, no mosque 9/11

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By PatrickHenry, September 2, 2010 at 2:22 pm Link to this comment

Hatch is another politician way past retirement and a prime example of how a representative from another state can gain seniority and affect legislation not concerning his state.

Term limit poster boy.

We should repeal the 17th amendment and have state senators elected by our state legislators.

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By mrfreeze, September 2, 2010 at 7:05 am Link to this comment

I try to NEVER miss an opportunity to say something nasty about Hatch and that uber-ridiculous, pseudo-religion from whence he emerges.

First, Hatch is a typical Mormon whose only agenda is to play nice in public and scheme to eliminate government.

Second, his religion would love to start converting Muslims. I’m sure they have baptized Mohammad as one of their own (for more baptism for the dead….consult your local, idiot Mormon Missionary).

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By rob, September 2, 2010 at 5:31 am Link to this comment
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to think im related to this idiot. brings us to a new low

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By Benito, September 1, 2010 at 3:09 pm Link to this comment
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I hope that every American, regardless of where he lives, will stop and examine his conscience about this and other related incidents. This Nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds.  It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.  All of us ought to have the right to be treated as he would wish to be treated, as one would wish his children to be treated, but this is not the case.

I know those opposing the NY Community Center continue to say that that the majority supports them, but as history has taught us the majority is not always right.  Would women or non-whites have the vote if we listen to the majority of the day, would the non-whites have equal rights (and equal access to churches, housing, restaurants, hotels, retail stores, schools, colleges and yes water fountains) if we listen to the majority of the day?  We all know the answer, a resounding, NO!

Today we are committed to a worldwide struggle to promote and protect the rights of all who wish to be free.  In a time of domestic crisis men of good will and generosity should be able to unite regardless of party or politics and do what is right, not what is just popular with the majority.  Some men comprehend discrimination by never have experiencing it in their lives, but the majority will only understand after it happens to them.

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By TroubleCominEveryday, September 1, 2010 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment
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Hatch is an opportunist and sees “the writing on the wall”.  How does it look? America is supposed to be the “land of religious tolerance”.

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