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 There’s Something Happening HerePosted on Oct 13, 2011
This week on Truthdig Radio in association with KPFK: It’s all about Occupy Wall Street, which Pulitzer Prize winner and guest David Cay Johnston says is unlike any movement he’s covered. Also: voices from Occupy L.A., Nomi Prins, Scott Tucker and the NYPD arrests journalists. Listen to the show: Subscribe to Truthdig PodcastsSubscribe directly: Advertisement TAGS:
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By IMax, October 16, 2011 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment
gerard,
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/ketcham_points_protesters_toward_the_populists_20111015/
Report thisBy gerard, October 16, 2011 at 12:30 pm Link to this comment
Oh, come off it, IMax! I was borrowing one of your hobbyhorses to kick and you didn’t even notice. Boards of Education (in fact public education itself) hasn’t been doing such a great job lately, according to the right wing nnd lots of others who think they found a kicking post, right?
Report thisSo Occupy Wall Street comes along and steals their thunder, right? Only more so. It brings together—yes, together—a wide variety of first young people, then the oldsters tag along. And they “teach each other”. Who ever heard of such a thing? Well, some years ago a rather knowledgeable fellow (though at the moment I can’t recall his name) ventured to recommend as an answer to illiteracy: “Each one teach one.” They did, and it worked. And it is working again. Boards of Education couldn’t have done it better or faster if they tried. Thank you, OW.
But your last sentence is the kicker: “It’s a frighteningly horrible notion to involve public education into politics or one ideology over another.” Where you been hiding? Public Education has been “involved into” politics and ideologies forever, more so lately. What’s all this about saluting the flag beginning at age 6? And what about all the flack about teachers’ unions being
“sociaistic.” etc. etc. ad nauseum.
By IMax, October 16, 2011 at 6:50 am Link to this comment
The malign effects of “income inequality” on well-being aren’t really the issue for a significant portion of Wall St. protesters. The faux-populist rhetoric of income inequality is the camouflage for the true goal. As one protester instructed another: “It’s about taking down systems, it doesn’t matter what you’re protesting.”
Capitalism must go in order to redistribute wealth as a means for advancing ideological preferences and goals, and achieving the egalitarianism that many consider to be “social justice” — the same socialist dream that littered the 20th century with corpses, and whose milder yet still pernicious forms have brought several European countries to the brink of insolvency. In the end, what the protesters are really angry about is that the world of reality does not live up to the world of utopian dreams.
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One poster here suggests American Boards of Education should all be paying something to support Occupy Wall Street because it appears to support his or her ideology. How frightening is this? Imagine American Boards of Education funding the Tea Party.
It’s a frighteningly horrible notion to involve public education into politics or one ideology over another.
Report thisBy cpb, October 15, 2011 at 10:01 pm Link to this comment
“In a reasonable political system, Boards of Education should all be paying something to support Occupy Wall Street because it is the most effective public education organization so far this century. “
- gerard
An interesting point. And despite the hesitance of the MSM to report on such, now that they no longer have a choice but to at least acknowledge what is taking place, the conversations are starting. I am not speculating on this; peeps within my own peer groups, both professional and personal, are starting to talk to me with more curiosity and intent than prior to these actions. I have a bit of a reputation I do admit. It is refreshing as beat all.
Those that question what is or has been accomplished are overlooking the value of this. Compared to the conversations I might be able to engage a month or more ago I’m finding a new openness, a willingness to engage in dialogue, a curiosity.
Disparaging or demeaning the 99% is, for 99 percent of us, a self defeating negation. Peeps are waking up.
Report thisBy Rafael Ravenet, October 14, 2011 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment
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Ninety-nine percent party? How does this sound? Next we can start by asking the nation to seriously begin a move toward real local economies. Local money, state banks, barter, permaculture, education centers. As member of Sustainable Downtown Seattle, I am sure we can start creating new era jobs. Pay in food, clothing, shelter? Early childhood education. We took a low income decorative container garden and turned it into an unbelievably productive farm. Come on folks, granny wisdom. Where are the canners, the spinners, the wheelright, the cistern people, the bicycle repair experts, the solar people, windmills, fishfarmers. Think of all the jobs. If you are currently unemployed, have not found a job, you should be working with your community! It works.
Thanks. Habitat Means Life!
Report thisBy Padma Wick, October 14, 2011 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment
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I agree the movement must stay independent of the Democratic Party, independent of MoveOn, independent of Bold Progressives, Change.org, any covert Obama election organizations, etc.
Everyone can participate. Everyone has connections to one thing or another, but should participate s an individual with their own grievance. Occupy should not “partner” with any other organization, or the movement will be usurped.
Report thisBy gerard, October 14, 2011 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment
In a reasonable political system, Boards of Education should all be paying something to support Occupy Wall Street because it is the most effective public education organization so far this century.
Report thisBy panos, October 14, 2011 at 8:55 am Link to this comment
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We must keep the movement independent from the Democratic Party; if not our hope is gone out the window again!
Report thisBy pacrat, October 14, 2011 at 6:32 am Link to this comment
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Love the spontaniety of the 99%-ers. I hope that neither the dems nor the repubs try to organize it - that would be the kiss of death.
Meanwhile it certainly shows that unlike the tea party types who were organized and promoted by Faux News they don’t have to wear silly revolutionary war costumes and carry guns to make their point. Seems to be the antithesis of the tea party - real americans for a change and not nutters!
Report thisBy ardee, October 14, 2011 at 5:19 am Link to this comment
As this movement spreads across our nation, and it is certainly doing such, I am more hopeful that the political lethargy that has infected our nation may very well be lifting.
“A journey of a thousand miles begins with but a single step.”
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