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Posted on Apr 14, 2011

Election integrity journalist Brad Friedman takes issue with the results from Wisconsin and the idea that we should trust “secret, proprietary systems” and election officials. “I don’t think we should have to trust anybody in an election. Our system wasn’t built on trust, it was built on checks and balances.”

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By Shenonymous, April 25, 2011 at 7:25 pm Link to this comment

But of course truthfulness is something to giggle about. Oh yeah.
It’s always a pathetic effort for ordinary people to get the truth. A
pointless and complete waste of time because the powers that be
have the money to effect anything they want, even a glaring faux pas. 

If emotion rules the left it is because emotion is the way to motivate
action. Sitting back buzzing like cicadas might be a pleasant pastime,
but it does not get the job done.  Biting like scorpions is what will. 

Hitting the wrong button is lame in any book of an allegedly
“responsible” appointed public servant!  And especially at the service
of the Republican governor that is, and her former employer, David
Prosser.  Cicadas must forget that juicy morsel!  Using the same kind
of comparative reasoning always given, if a liberal registrar kept
election results on a personal computer, it would not be tolerated one
microsecond by conservatives!  They would scream bloody murder! 
Should the inept Nickolaus be trusted?  She should be replaced at the
first opportunity.  She holds an appointed position not an elected one. 
Therefore, her demise is not likely to be soon given the governor is a
shifty Republican.  So the next big thing is to get rid of the unprincipled
Republican governor.

Does it matter that the outcome would not have changed?  But it did
matter.  As originally reported, the Democrat won!  Once sleasy Cathy
corrected her ‘mistake,’ the Republican won. 

The will of the people will, in time, prevail.  Five so far of the recall
effort are on the ballot with three more to be nabbed.  Signatures are
coming in like honeybees to a hive.  And shoveling out the smelly dead
fish will be an easy task.  So the power of the ballot is going to be
exercised and the people’s rebellion is what made it happen.

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By OzarkMichael, April 24, 2011 at 9:30 am Link to this comment

Please note the timing and target of “Something Fishy in Wisconsin”.  These Truthdig articles intentionally set the table for certain Leftist emotions, and they always succeed.

The “Something Fishy” is an attempt to make a Republican victory appear illegitimate, which stirs up grievance here at Truthdig: ‘another stolen election’. It had its desired effect. Read the first 10 posts and see what i mean.

The Truthdig article title insinuates that the election was a scam, ie was stolen from the people. That insinuation becomes a grievance, not against the chaos of voting booths and vote tabulation, but the outcome itself: a Republican won.

Is there any evidence that the election was stolen? No, its just an insinuation, masterfully set up by Truthdig. Even after Leftists have forgotten the unproven accusations and insinuations, the feeling that conservatives do not legitimately win elections will grow into resentment.

The feeling will linger, and it gets added to the heap of resentments that Truthdig inculcates in its readers until they buzz like cicadas. This is the Truthdig narrative: “The corporations rig everything so we cant win” It is a long term investment.  It is a growing investment and the profits of it will be realized someday. I will not guess what the investment is for or what future it is supposed to lead to.

The Leftist resentment grows but what is it built on? Where besides Truthdig does it come from? Mainstream media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBaX9GPSaQ&feature=related

The odd goings-on and chaos which happens every election is quickly set aside when a Democrat wins, even a close race, such as in Colorado where 10,000 non-citizens appear to have registered to vote in 2010. The ever present irregularity of one sort or another in every election is overlooked because, after all, the people have spoken and the process worked…  if a Leftist wins.

Irregularities may be something to improve upon, but it is strange how urgently election reform is needed when a Republican wins a close election. 

“Something Fishy in Wisconsin”? Something Rotten in Denmark? Well, there certainly is something fishy about Truthdig, as evidenced by that sly article title. I have done my duty, more than my share of exposing it, via my first post, a post which might seem quirky and non intellectual. 

The fundamental dynamic of Truthdig and the atmosphere it creates is not conducive to clear thinking. The backdrop is always prejudicial. I am not interested in an intellectual discussion though it seems to soar to great heights… if its foundation is lopsided.

The proper response to imbalance is not to build upon it in hopes that it will straighten up eventually. The situation calls for sarcasm and irony which wears a mask. I supplied that in my first post. Here I would explain irony but it is never as funny when you have to explain a joke. Lets just say i giggled over its truthfulness when i posted it.

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By Shenonymous, April 19, 2011 at 12:28 am Link to this comment

Cathy Nickolaus, Republican activist county clerk who oversees      
the elections, in the suddenly found votes debacle, and who worked  
with the declared winner of the election Justice David Prosser in the  
Republican Assembly, would was not charged with criminal charges in
2001 when highly unethical doings were being investigated inside the
Republicans caucus, in fact the Republican caucus was put out of  
business because they were doing politicking on office time. She was  
let off the hook in exchange for her testimony, which obviously was    
an indictment and damaging to the caucus.  (Why were these people
trusted in the first place when there was a history of deceit and      
deception? The sort of people who keep election results on their own}   
computers in their own offices with no oversight and where no one can  
see what they do during the process.  This is especially crucial when a
controversial election is at risk.  The 2011 votes that allegedly came out
of nowhere may have in fact not come out of nowhere.  Friedman gives  
an account about a third of the way into The Mike Malloy Show video. 
Since there was no citizen oversight election results become specious  
and that opaqueness keeps the public blindsided and exploited.

Where elections ought not to be in the unbridled hands of election  
officials, the 1993 appointed California voter registrar under Republican
Governor Pete Wilson, Tony Anchundo, was prosecuted and pled no
contest to charges of 43 counts of electoral impropriety and  
embezzlement had been interviewed.  (As an aside: what is so unnerving
was the Mitt Romney advertisement superimposed on the video as one
watches it. It is a kind of mind-rape.  What the F?  You can’t even watch  
a video without it being appropriated by Republican candidates?)

For a lengthy but (rotten) meaty story about Nickolaus:
http://politicsdownanddirty.blogspot.com/2011/04/breaking-prosser-up-by-7500-in-wi.html

Anchundo is obviously the paradigmatic response to any election official, 
politician, or voting machine company who says there must be trust in election
officials that they will do the right thing, that they’d never do anything untoward, 
or game an election…despite their insider access to voting equipment which can
be tampered with to allow a single person to steal an entire election without a
trace left behind.  Oh yeah.

Friedman makes valid points about the reliability of elections.  How could we say  
there is a democracy if voting is such a crock of _ _ _ _?  There ought never to
be any question about who wins elections. 

Then again, in 2009, Kentucky officials arrested and indicted those, “including  
the circuit court judge, the county clerk, and election officers” of Clay County,   
a Republican stronghold county, have been charged with “changing votes at the
voting machine” and showing others how to do it!...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7001
Election officials used popular, unverifiable ES&S touch-screens to flip votes…

GOP-operative-created Baker/Carter National Election Reform Commission  
determined in its final report: “There is no reason to trust insiders in the election
industry any more than in other industries.”

A June 26, 2007 companion article at
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_charles__070626_you_will_vote_the_wa.htm
You will vote the way we tell you to vote! Verstehen!
Written by Charles Corry for OpEdNews.com is another eye opener.

MORAL: Trust no one when it comes to your elections. Especially do not trust
those who tell you they should be trusted.

The smell of rotten fish is overwhelming.

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By OzarkMichael, April 17, 2011 at 10:55 pm Link to this comment

Yeah, that Wisconsin Democrat judge claimed victory and then it turns out several thousand votes werent even counted, were somehow set aside. They were mostly votes for the Republican. Not that the clerk did it on purpose, although her incompetence is now legendary.

I demand a full investigation. I demand a recount. How did the Wisconsin Democrat Judge dare to claim a victory from such a slipshod operation? People in suits have called me names. My story must be told. I will drag it out into four or five posts if need be.

I have forwarded this to Mike Malloy, asking to be interviewed on his radio show. And I have forwarded this to “Election integrity journalist Brad Friedman”, who got his degree in “Election Integrity Journalism” from… uh, is that a real degree? No? He has a degree in what? Theatrical performances? Well, then he is yet another phony who is messing with my rights. Enough. Enough! This is a democracy.

I demand an investigation of so called “Election Integrity Journalists”. It aint rocket science but I cant do this alone. Lets learn how to do this. Enough of debacles! Enough!

Let us hope that Mike Malloy allows me to be interviewed.

Time will tell.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, April 16, 2011 at 5:48 pm Link to this comment

Please note.
This is my actual account, when I was in Ohio 2004, spelling errors and all.

I have forwarded this to Mike Malloy, asking to be interviewed on his radio show.

Given the relevancy of what happened in Wisconsin and the Supreme Court <s>election, this is especially relevant.

Let us hope that Mike Malloy allows me to be interviewed

Time will tell

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By Michael Cavlan RN, April 16, 2011 at 5:44 pm Link to this comment

Stolen Election-Lost Democracy: Report From Ohio

by Michael Cavlan RN
Email: ollamhfaery (at) earthlink.net (unverified!)
20 Dec 2004

The evidence is mounting that this election, just as the last one, had been stolen. What makes this one even more stunning is the brazen nature in which it had been stolen. Add to this the nature of how it had been stolen, with the possible use of manipulated machines as well as the silence from the media and the leadership of the Democratic Party. Many observers have noted the common feeling that the democratic process is slipping away right in front of us.

This is the second part of this Indy Media Journalist and Official Observer for the Green Party’s David Cobb Re-count effort in Ohio.

We met them everywhere. People who were angry, who knew that something very wrong had happened in the last election. Typical reactions were such as the young waitress who served us in Dianne’s Restaurant in Sandusky, a town in Seneca County, Ohio.

She approached us after we entered Dianne’s to eat and strategize our efforts for the re-count. Eli Anthony, Noca Timassy and myself were seated at a booth, bedecked in bright orange scarf, hat and wearing our Green Party Ohio Election Re-count team buttons. She asked if we were helping in the Re-count effort underway. When we answered that we were, she thanked us profusely and also spoke of her anger. She, like many there, knew that something had gone very wrong in this election. They understood that the exit polls did not match the result in the presidential race, even thought they did match all the other races. We met many others like her, all over our designated area. The stench of a corrupted election was everywhere.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, April 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment

We also met the Erie County head of the NAACP. We heard stories of voter intimidation and where minority communities had few machines, causing folks to stand for hours, often in the rain even as other whiter and more affluent communities had no such problem. Even more damning were the reports that there were voting machines lying unused in storage containers in Colombus, Ohio. However we discovered that things were to get much worse.

Tuesday, we had been at the Board of Elections Headquarters for Seneca County. There, while we had a few problems such as the “random” pick of pricincts already being chosen before observers were present, none the less it had gone fairly well. In Seneca, we watched and had explained that the ballots were opened in a locked storage facility and needed a key from both the Republican and Democratic secretaries to be opened, thereby ensuring integrity of the ballot access.

On Wednesday, our focus was the media and our team talked to some local media including a newspaper from Sandusky. Later we went to the local library where I filed my initial Indy Media report. By this stage we had already been hearing some of the reports from Greene, Lucas, Hocking and other Counties. We also taped an interview with the local co-ordinator Noca Timassy, Eli Anthony and myself which Noca promised would be edited and appear on the local cable access. Noca promised that she would send a copy, when finished so that we could also screen on our own cable access.

Later that evening we received reports of David Cobb, Green Party candidate and other observers personally witnessing “technicians” from the Triad Company approach them, while they were auditing a machine in Hocking and other Counties. These “technicians” stated that they had to change a battery in the machine. In the process of changing the battery, some were observed removing other parts from the Triad machines. He was challenged but since observers had to legal authority to actually stop a count or even contest actions such as this, the individual in question left. Even more appalling was reports from Cobb of the same individual approaching them to “change the battery” after the team started to check another machine that was counting another county.Apparently the only ones with actual authority were the Member of the Board of Election Committee. They did nothing to challenge the technicians in question or their questionable behavior. Triad of course produce machines that count the optiscan ballots and have reportedly close ties to the Republican Party. We can report though, that after Cobb and others testified at the Conyers hearings, that an investigation has been opened into voter fraud by both the FBI and local authorities. We can watch this development with interest.

We also received reports of individuals who had been approaching Board of Elections offices in other parts of the state after they were closed late at night. In this instance, while observers were watching one office, an unknown individual was seen attempting to enter the office. When challenged by an observer, who had been watching the office from a distance for any irregularities, the person in question mysteriously stated ” hey, we all make mistakes” and then left. After this incident, there was a statewide call for us to watch our local Board of Elections offices. Our team went to Eire County and we did not see anything out of the ordinary but since we had to report there the next morning, we had to leave later that night. But we did have local people who would “drive by from time to time” and keep an eye out. It would have to do because we would have a big day tomorrow.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, April 16, 2011 at 5:42 pm Link to this comment

Also there is the reports of other observers experience in Greene County, to the south. In one instance Katrina Sumner arrived at a Board of Elections office the day before and was stunned to find it wide open. After calling it in, she testified to the Conyers hearing in Colombus, Ohio. After she testified, she received threatening phone calls, from individuals who told her that she was at a variety of locations and that they were watching her. Later she had the tires on her car slashed.

8:00 am we arrived at the Offices of the Erie County Board of Elections. While the workers there were very helpful and willing to assist, we experienced problems immediately. The first thing was that the boxes of ballots were already out on the table. There had been no observer present to watch the ballots removal from a secure location. At 8:07 the team of Green party Observers made our first objection, that the random pricinct selection, with observers present had not been made. Like other places in the state, the pick of pricincts to do a hand count, to represent a 3% total of the state had already been chosen. This means that by definition it was not a random count. The Republican Board member, Chris Marinko over-ruled us immediately. The count went on.

Then Board member Marinko called, in a very angry tone, an “emergency meeting” of the Board. There he was heard to make comments such as “I can’t believe we have to do this ****”, “do we have to do this Green Re-count”, and to the Democratic lawyer present ” We could never be Green’s, we have too much money and we like our big houses and SUV’s way to much”. It must be noted here that the Democratic Party lawyer specializes in corporate law. During this and later events Democratic Party Board of Elections Chairman, Dave Gasse sat passively on. Marinko was quickly to earn the title “the Little Prick” from the members of the Green Party Election Observer Team.

We were also to hear later that Chairman Gisse was ” about as useless as ****” from a constituant. While Gisse was the Chairman, it was obvious that Marinko was really the one who was “wearing the pants” in Eire County. It was already turning interesting in Eire County.

Then we began the Logic and Accuracy Test of the optiscanner machine. This machine was manufactured by AIS and so was not a Triad, but troubles were to develop. At first it appeared that a test deck had already been run Nov 14th and obviously we questioned this. We wanted a test run done in front of us observers and they did indeed do this. But upon further questioning, we found some details that upon further analysis may prove to be troubling. The reason that there had been a “test run” done Nov 14th was that there had been a new chip placed in the machine at this date. This begs the question as to why there were new chips added to this machine Nov 14th, after the election but before the re-count, especially knowing that the re-count was going to be done. The explaination may be innocent, but it will take others, more knowledgably of the AIS machinary than the Observer Team to rectify this potential problem.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, April 16, 2011 at 5:40 pm Link to this comment

Upon completion of the hand count of the selected pricicnt #2 and #41 of Eire County, the machine did it’s count. For a minute we were all stunned because the count was off. The Democratic lawyer and Eli Anthony demanded a full hand re-count of the entire county, but after some deliberation it was decided to do another hand count, which the board could do, according to procedure. The second hand count matched the machines total. Of interest though was that the operators of the machines, workers for the board made the comment that “oh, the machine may be off because I forgot to press the button for the overvotes” as a way to explain the descrepancy. Observer Anthony from the Green Party team raised an objection that this was never rectified but it was ignored by the board.

Another thing that we observed was the number of votes that were not originally counted because they had been filled in by pen. Apparently when the bubble was filled by pen, the machine would reject them. By the end of the count Kerry would receive an additional 17 votes and Bush 4 more. Each of these were filled in with pencil by Board members, therby ensuring that it would count. We were curious as to why these had not been done the first time, during the Nov 2nd Election. We also noted the large number of overvotes, where the voter had filled in more than one selection for president, thereby nullifying that vote. Of interest was that the vast majority of overvotes were Kerry/Nader/other votes. Very few were Bush overvotes, even though the ballot had two other conservatives, the Constitution Party and Libertarian Party candidates. There is no way to verify if there had been any intentional ” additional filling” of bubbles by unknown others.

It must be noted here that Ohio’s Secretary of State, the person directly responsible for maintaining the integrity of the voting process is none other than Ken Blackwell. Blackwell, a Republican, is no ordinary Secretary of State. As a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, many believe that Blackwell has experiences in subverting the democratic process elsewhere. Places such as Venezuala, where it is suspected that the Council on Foreign Relations helped foster the attempted coup of popular Venezualian president, Hugo Chavez. This could very easily be a case of the chicken truely coming home to roost.

Finally, the re-count was finished at 4:00 pm. The staff at the board had been very friendly and transparent and we observers got on well with them. perhaps they, like us were “not rich with big houses and SUV’s”. After a quick interview with the local, Republican friendly newspaper, a last dinner with Noca at Dianne’s, Eli and I were off home to the twin cities.

Since coming home, more has become evident. Apart from the almost complete silence in the “mainstream” corporate media, apparently we are now hearing that even thought there are now serious concerns that the entire democratic process for the future is at risk, the reason that the Kerry campaign will not speak out is because of their fear that they will be portrayed as “whiney loosers”. The media has stated that they are not reporting it due to Kerry remaining silent and Kerry remains silent because of his fear of the reactions in the media to him speaking out. It is a self perpetuating cycle of political cowardice by both the leadership of the Democratic Party and of the media.

Our democracy is at risk and we deserve better than this. We should not accept these “chickens coming home to roost”. It is now our job to reclaim our right to vote and become involved in the democratic process. The Democratic Party and the Corporate Media might be afraid but we, like many in Ohio are not afraid. We are angry and will not stand idly by, while our democracy starts to slip away from us. We will claim it back, despite the cowardice of the so called leadership, or lack there-of, of the Democratic Party along with the complicity of the corporate media.

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By jltnol, April 16, 2011 at 5:13 pm Link to this comment
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How stupid do these voting scam artists think we are?

Just stupid enough to let them willingly get away with it with some vague notion
that now that they’ve been caught, they can’t/won’t do it again.. And they laugh all
the way to the bank.

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By blinton, April 16, 2011 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment
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Mike, ain’t that the truth.  The Dems are the Washington Generals to the Repub Harlem Globetrotters—designed to lose and take insults.  Fake parties, fake voting—all for a fake democracy.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, April 16, 2011 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment

I live in Minnesota and was an Official Observer in the 2004 Ohio Re-Count (Eire and Seneca Counties)

I have been screaming about this issue ever since. However, I also point out that the Republicans steal elections but Democrats let them.

That reality makes some “progressive” groups a little too uncomfortable.

In other words, Progressive Democrats are an oxymoron. You can no longer be progressive and a Democrat at the same time.

It can be made no more clear than on this issue of election theft and fraud.

If interested, you can look up my Indy Media report that I did in Ohio 2004. It is called Stolen Election, Lost Democracy by Michael Cavlan.

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By max, April 15, 2011 at 10:26 am Link to this comment
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Absolutely.  We have a broken, illegitimate voting system.  Without trust in the vote there is no democracy.

How stupid do these voting scam artists think we are?

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