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Posted on Feb 7, 2012

U.K.-based investigative reporters working with the Sunday Times have determined that “since Obama took office three years ago, between 282 and 535 civilians have been credibly reported as killed [by CIA drone attacks in Pakistan], including more than 60 children.”

The findings contradict the president’s own assertion that drone strikes are surgical and minimize casualties. Obama has made the use of drones a signature element of his revised military strategy.

Among other revelations discussed in this Amy Goodman / “Democracy Now!” interview with the story’s lead reporter: The CIA appears to target rescuers who respond to drone attacks to tend to the wounded and dead; CIA attacks in Pakistan that lead to civilian casualties are not subject to the same scrutiny as military attacks in Afghanistan; and David Petraeus’ tenure as CIA director may signal a change in policy.

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By drbhelthi, February 12, 2012 at 7:28 am Link to this comment

” - talk your ideas over with friends or family and take care of yourself.” heteroxxxxxxxx

Marvelous.  Heteroxxxxxx can also spin sympathy, reflecting defective basic values.  The USGOV recently hired 10,000 such “social specialists.”  But not for online duty.

My ideas come essentially from former insiders, and well documented sources.  Which of course is why you were assigned to refute the blogs of several Truthdig bloggers.  Which has become quite obvious.

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By heterochromatic, February 12, 2012 at 12:36 am Link to this comment

dr___ thinking that there are people who would direct other people to come onto a
rather small web-site simply to counter the thinks that you say…is more
disturbing than your usual ideas.


in all seriousness, dr, talk your ideas over with friends or family and take care of
yourself.

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By drbhelthi, February 12, 2012 at 12:00 am Link to this comment

” - even wherever your head is at, you must have that rattling around somewhere in
there.”  heterochromatic

Spoken like a true insider pimp for the CIA, who is acquainted with useless elements of
history, which experienced pimps can spin.  You mesh written trash into an overall defamation program very well.  Five black stars for heteromossad.

So, heterochromatic is called in, directed to refute doc b.  Did the same handlers call
you in as hired Atta and his entrourage?  Or was that done at a level higher than the
CIA/MOSSAD pimps who post on Truthdig?

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By heterochromatic, February 11, 2012 at 5:04 pm Link to this comment

Eastern Europe was engulfed by the Red Army…...and
there was not a smidgeon of military power in all of
Western Europe.

shortly after the war, the US military was reduced
from 16,000,000 men under arms to little more than
1/2 million.

Stalin, until 1948, continued to seek to expand
Russian control, and there was nothing that prevented
except our shell of an army and our atomic weapons.

even wherever your head is at, you must have that
rattling around somewhere in there.

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By drbhelthi, February 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment

“The power vacuum resulted in America being sucked into a role- -“  heterochromatic

There was no power vacuum, as the allied forces had prevailed.
America was not sucked into anything.  NAZI forces have steadily guided The U.S.
Government to its current bus stop.

The NAZIs in US leadership conducted “Operation Paper Clip,” with reiterations until
1950.  A total of 10,000 NAZIs with family members were secreted into the U.S., per
Israeli historians.  The V-2 rockets of Dr. Werner von Braun were further developed,
NASA was formed and the US government was slowly taken over.  Using its tool, the
CIA, NAZIS occupying US leadership positions began to attack and colonize 3rd
world countries.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9VxnCBD9W4

The influence of the Rockefeller family, Standard Oil, Chase maintained its financial
connections with the NAZIs through its Paris bank, the J. Henry Schroeder Bank of NY,
Herman Schmitz of I.G. Farben, reported by The Guardian of London, about fifteen
billion Reichmarks were laundered by Swiss banks and turned over to NAZI accounts. 
(Alien Agenda, p.74)  The overtaking of the Republican party by the George H.W.
Bush Sr. entourage.  The election debacles of 2000 and 2004.  Establishment of the
Patriot Act, broadly amplified by the Kenyan with the alias, Barack H. Obama, whom
the above-mentioned less than 1% slid into the US presidency under the guise of a
“Black man for the people.”  The same person who signed NDA 2011, which permits
Americans to be arrested without due process and transported to any military jail or
Guantanamo, e.g, Bradley Manning, INDEFINITELY.  All of which has turned the USA
into a status similar to that of Germany in 1939, and East Germany 1945-1989.  Former
CIA operative, Ms. Susan Lindauer reports ten years of Patriot Act mistreatment for
informing representatives of the US Congress of CIA illegal activity. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJTwbHdH6k
Her book, “Extreme Prejudice,” provides FBI-supplied documentation.  Once one
begins to read it, It is difficult to put aside.

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By heterochromatic, February 11, 2012 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment

dog___ you’re right. the Spanish-American War was a BIG
mistake and the start of a lot that’s not good.

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By blogdog, February 11, 2012 at 11:56 am Link to this comment

RE: ...a role at which it’s lousy…

perishing 100k Philippines was certainly a ‘lousy’ sin of naked aggression, and the invasion of Mexico,
which followed shortly, is certainly nothing to brag about - both well ahead of WWII, at the end of
which, the only ‘power vacuum’ was in the minds of imperialists

self-determinant socialist movements were growing up around the world - massive agitprop mounted
the specter of monolithic international communism - fueled by demagogues like Joe McCarthy and a
burgeoning military industrial complex gin up the cold war

I know well Europeans from former East Block countries who suffered their own struggles with the
Soviets and their client regimes - from what I’ve learned, NATO did more to gin up and prolong the
Cold War than did the Warsaw Pact

some I know very well see the USA fast becoming a police state

Western imperialist hegemons are far and away more ruthless everywhere they go

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By heterochromatic, February 11, 2012 at 10:01 am Link to this comment

dog____ the policeman for the world was but one of many lousy results produced
by WWII. The power vacuum resulted in America being sucked into a role at which
it’s lousy

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By blogdog, February 11, 2012 at 9:44 am Link to this comment

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/US_Interventions_WBlumZ.html -
worth bookmarking, especially when confronted with the tired old saw: USA,
‘policeman’ for the world - rather, ‘hitman’ for the oligarchs

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By Cliff Carson, February 11, 2012 at 8:16 am Link to this comment

Would the U S foment strife and discord to use as an excuse to destabilize a country then move in to profit from that country’s despair?

The U S has had 70 known operations nearly all subversive since the end of WWII.

Read the following and see if you believe that our Government has your interests at heart.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/US_Interventions_WBlumZ.html

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By heterochromatic, February 10, 2012 at 7:27 am Link to this comment

dog—I don’t know what comes after the Assads go, but mostly it’ll be the Turks
worrying dealing with it, so I doubt that it’ll suit the west or suit the Islamists
either.

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By blogdog, February 10, 2012 at 2:05 am Link to this comment

wrong - install another Belhadj - see how much ‘reform’ you get - you get sharia
- a mediaeval failed state - exactly what the globalists want - primed for disaster
capitalism - wide open for carpetbaggers -  duped again, tic

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By heterochromatic, February 10, 2012 at 1:19 am Link to this comment

there were no reforms , dog…. and they never would have been any.

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By blogdog, February 10, 2012 at 12:18 am Link to this comment

but, reformers were in motion - NATO don’t want reforms - NATO want failed
states - because that’s what their Global Finance Oligarch task masters want - you
think it through

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By heterochromatic, February 9, 2012 at 11:57 pm Link to this comment

dog—- they’re motives are surely not pure. that’s the reality of life on the
planet earth.

but this time the not pure are looking to fuck with the Assad clan, who really
are just murderous scum.


follow Turkey on this one, dog…...they wanted ZERO PART of any regime
change in Syria (and they still hate that kicking out the Assads is going to
disrupt their foreign policy plans) but the Turks spent a heel of a lot of time and
energy trying to prevent the slaughter from the time that the Assads had only
shot a few dozen,
but all the Turks got was rebuffed.

The Assad plan is to kill and to keep killing until they’ve prevented any change.
they’re playing a game of all or nothing and they’re not going to stop unless
someone stops them or they run out of people to kill.

think about this one a bit.

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By blogdog, February 9, 2012 at 11:47 pm Link to this comment

tic, if the mission of your ‘champions’ were clearly pure, I’d join your camp; but,
you know hegemons are not to be trusted and global finance oligarchical
hegemons are the benefactors of these missions… not the under classes

democracy for the people is a blatant lie and you know it
especially the phony, ginned up sort we see in the wake of these operations; e.g. Libya

I’m no fan of dictators; but, the alternative, as prescribed by the globalists, is
worse; and, you know it

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By heterochromatic, February 9, 2012 at 11:37 pm Link to this comment

dog——perhaps you’re right and working to remove from overlordship of Syria
a dynastic dictatorship that has a history of massacring Syrian citizens and
currently is engaged in such a massacre…....really is “destabilization”.


After all, a repressive and bloody police state that scruples not to kill people
chanting in protest can be very stable.


shame on anybody wants to fuck with these swell bunch of killers….......


great thinking, dog.

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By blogdog, February 9, 2012 at 11:25 pm Link to this comment

so who’s ‘aiding al qaeda’?

the Obomber Regime bombs so-called ‘al qaeda’ in Afpak, Yeman, Somalia and
instals proxy al qaeda leaders in Libya and relocates their chief al qaeda military
operative Abdel Hakim Belhadj from Libya to Turkey to lead the insurgent
destabilization of Syria - BLOODY HELL! I say, BLOODY HELL!

at the end of this interview, we hear clearly that destabilization is the NATO/US
mission - nothing more, nothing less - anyone disagree, prove it!

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By heterochromatic, February 9, 2012 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment

zozkia—-if you cross they border to attack people and then cross back to hide in
houses surrounded by women and children, then it’s your responsibility when
attacks against you cause the death of those women and children…...especially
because when you cross the border to fight, you have no scruple against blowing
up women and children there.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=12350&Cat=13

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By morongobill, February 9, 2012 at 10:08 am Link to this comment

So now the CIA is using the tactics of suicide bombers everywhere- wait till people show up to help, then help them into the next world.

It truly is despicable as the previous commenter said.

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By heterochromatic, February 9, 2012 at 9:12 am Link to this comment

they’re not “rescue workers’ in the sense of firemen, cops or ambulance
attendants, kids.

THOSE types are kept away from militant sites that are bombed by people with
rifles.

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By zoskia, February 9, 2012 at 4:27 am Link to this comment

A report by the London-based Bureau of Investigative Journalism ( BIJ ) has found that the US Central Intelligence Agency deliberately attacked rescue workers and funeral processions in follow-up strikes after drone missile attacks on insurgents in Pakistan’s tribal areas. The findings were made public on the group’s web site and published by the Sunday Times of London.

According to the organization, which includes British and Pakistani journalists, at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes while they were attempting to help victims of an initial CIA drone attack. Dozens more were killed by missile strikes against the funerals of victims of drone attacks.

Overall, the group found that “since Obama took office three years ago, between 282 and 535 civilians have been credibly reported as killed, including more than 60 children.” Pakistani officials and humanitarian aid workers have reported much higher figures for the death toll in Pakistan’s tribal areas, as many as several thousand.

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By Urizen o8, February 9, 2012 at 2:47 am Link to this comment

They target people responding to the attacks? That is truly despicable.

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By pundaint, February 8, 2012 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

The military ALWAYS lies, and the current crew has so much more to lie about!

We’re not getting the security we are asking our grandchildren to pay for.  The
leaders have proven to be incompetent, and must be replaced.

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By Art Brennan, February 7, 2012 at 5:18 pm Link to this comment
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I wonder if the President watched these killings on his wide screen as well.

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By heterochromatic, February 7, 2012 at 11:42 am Link to this comment

“credibly reported”.....is that almost the same as “not obviously untrue”  or “it’s
one possible interpretation”?

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