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Pennsylvania: The ‘State of Independence’ Becomes the ‘Oil State’

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Posted on Feb 23, 2012
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Susquehanna County has already been thoroughly fracked by gas mining operations. One hour’s drive south, Dallas Township, where zoning laws that empowered locals previously prevented the placement of gas drills near schools, homes and watersheds, appears to be next.  —ARK

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By prisnersdilema, February 26, 2012 at 5:56 am Link to this comment

In some third world countries the inhabitants are so desperate that they sell their
own body parts just to survive. Selling a kidney can mean the difference between
life and death for the seller as well as the recipient.

Some of the larger totalitarian regimes, harvest the organs of criminals and
political prisoners..

That’s all this is, gutting yourself through your environment, to make a few
dollars, and worrying about the aftermath later. Unless of course you have a brain
in your head, in which case you will consider the implications, of selling your
kidney ahead of time.

Our so called Federal regulatory agencies have been taken over by the industries
that they were supposed to regulate decades ago. Their job now is to grease the
wheels of corporate rape, by convincing the public that everything is perfectly
safe, certified by their all knowing and beneficial government watchdogs.

Oh one other point, there is a little thing happening over in Japan right now,
perpetrated by one of our supposedly safe and highly profitable energy industries.
Today I just read online that a japanese nuclear scientist is calling for the
emergency evacuation of 30 million people due to dangerously high and climbing
radiation counts. Our military should evacuate now. ( But they won’t and you know
why. )

Just remember you can’t spend money when your dead. 

How many nuclear reactors were built with the same design on the East Coast, on
active fault lines? These reactors were certified too.

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By Blueokie, February 25, 2012 at 7:05 pm Link to this comment

Of course John M is a fossil fuel hack, every article on fracking brings an appearance with the same hackneyed propaganda and endorsements by EDF and the Sierra Club.  Two “environmental” organizations that have taken multimillion dollar bribes to greenwash the practice, proving they have no integrity.

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By johnnyfarout, February 25, 2012 at 9:51 am Link to this comment

I also live in Pa. and this is a most distressing state of affairs. I have one other item to add to this discussion as it progresses here: the issue of radon. Building codes across Pa. require a sub-basement pvc piping to direct radon gas out of the house footprint and blow it into the sky over top of the house. The winds whisper this danger off into the free areas and swale it down to your neighbors. The pump doesn’t have to be installed but the piping needs to be ready to go. So everything that comes out of the ground in this fracking adventure must be contaminated with radon… surely it is so. So around these fracking enterprises are clouds of poison radioactive gas and radioactive liquid waste slurring around for the next 50,000 years. It’s enough to make us Pa’ers crazy. I’ve heard it said that Pa. is Pittsburg in the west and Philly in the east with Alabama in-between… and us Alabaman/Pa-ers are getting riled up over this. Are the republicans (whom I can’t believe get elected…shame on us) under mind control or something? Traitors they be, and Pa. is bristling with bibles and guns, boys, bibles and guns… where does it say (other than in their corporate charters) corporate businesses get to destroy our planet and leave no room for human beings, and all for a fist full of dollars?

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By Maani, February 24, 2012 at 4:57 pm Link to this comment

John:

Nice try.  The two most telling realities of fracking?

1.  In every single state in which fracking has occurred, “buyer’s remorse” has set in, with the vast majority of those who sold or leased their land for fracking regretting having doing so, and wishing they could reverse it.  (And numerous lawsuits are in the works in that regard.)

2.  Fracking simply “front-loads” the danger to our atmosphere.  Sure, once the gas is made available, it is safer and less polluting than fossil fuel.  HOWEVER, before it becomes available - i.e., prior to, during, and after the fracking process itself - we have clear-cutting of and/or damage to forests; irreversible damage to land and water, including creation of new roads for trucks; chemicals that are hypertoxic that leach to the surface; trucks belching diesel smoke as they go to and from fracking sites; generators belching diesel smoke and creating 24/7 noise pollution, affecting both humans and animals; and any number of other “pollutive” affects to air, land and water.

Those two facts speak volumes more than all your apologias for the oil and gas industry.

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By Big B, February 24, 2012 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment

sharonsj

I just tlked to my insurance agent and was informed that my homeowners insurance will be raised nearly 40% this year. He said “I can’t tell you officially that its all because of fracking, but its because of fracking.” He also said anyone who still has a mortgage should contact their holder before signing any agreement concerning mineral rights under your property. Apparently your lienholder could have something to say about that. His advice for anyone in an area with well water is to just flat out sell your home and property to the drilling company, for after they are done drilling, it will never pass a perk test again, so the deed will never legally transfer.

Just look at all the dead land directly to my west over the Ohio border that sits there unused for the last 40 years because it was strip mined. Nothing but a burden to the local tax base.

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By sharonsj, February 24, 2012 at 10:56 am Link to this comment

to John M: 

I bet you work for a gas company.  I live in Bradford County, about 45 minutes from Dimock—where numerous wells have been contaminated by fracking.  No one will assume permanent responsibility for providing drinking water to that area, so I’d say the home owners are pretty much screwed and their property is worthless.

45 minutes southwest from my property, numerous wells on Brown’s Mountain were also contaminated.  I haven’t heard how those people are getting water., but the local politicians aren’t falling over themselves to help.

Anyone who says wells aren’t being contaminated is flat our lying.

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By Big B, February 24, 2012 at 8:01 am Link to this comment

bernium, I too suffer from the throws of living in what we now affectionatly call “Pennsyltucky”.

I live in the pa/wva border near Wheeling, and our local infrastructure has been destroyed by large trucks. But don’t worry, theres all that extra tax revenue coming in from those great jobs in the fracking industry. Oh wait, they are mostly traveling contractors that end up paying no taxes. And nearly all of the gas is being shipped out of state (to the coast, to be liquified and shipped overseas at a higher profit.)

And our idiot governor sits ther with his thumb planted up his ass.

Who would have thought that instead of spending our efforts developing alternative energy sources and an infrastructure to deliver them, that we would dig, drill and suck every last ounce of fossil fuel from the Earth?

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By John M, February 24, 2012 at 7:31 am Link to this comment

Oil and natural gas engineers have used this process
more than a million times in this country to harvest
otherwise unreachable oil and natural gas deposits. A
thorough EPA study has concluded fracking is safe.

And the head of the Environmental Protection Agency’s
Drinking Water Protection Division told Congress last
year that there’s not a single documented instance of
fracking polluting groundwater.

the state of Colorado’s Oil and Gas Conservation
Commission issued a press release stating that they
had investigated the flaming water taps of the
landowners in 2008 and 2009 and concluded it was
naturally occurring methane, unrelated to oil and gas
drilling.

Scott Anderson, a senior policy adviser for the
Environmental Defense Fund, told the publication
Energy and Environment that “in the vast majority of
cases, if wells are constructed right and operated
right, hydraulic fracturing will not cause a
problem.”

As for the need to federally regulate fracking,
Anderson was not concerned about it.

“The states actually have a lot of knowledge and
experience in regulating well construction and
operation. We think that states have every reason to
be able to tackle this issue and do it well,” he
said.

The Environmental Defense Fund is one of the
country’s biggest and most liberal activist
organizations. If they say fracking is not a problem,
it’s not a problem.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/2011/01/nothing-hot-air-gasland/38980

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By berniem, February 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment

Make no mistake! In PA. corruption and greed enjoy unanimous bipartisan support! As a lifelong resident of this sorry excuse for a commonwealth(?), I can attest to the ever present stench emanating from Harrisburg and the futility of the electoral process!

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By berniem, February 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment

Make no mistake! In PA. corruption and greed enjoy unanimous bipartisan support! As a lifelong resident of this sorry excuse for a commonwealth(?), I can attest to the ever present stench emanating from Harrisburg and the futility of the electoral process!

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