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‘Outed’ Oakland Cop Supports Occupy Movement, Criticizes Police

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Posted on Nov 11, 2011
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Although his cover was blown in a video circulated last month, Oakland cop Fred Shavies says in this interview that he didn’t see his job as “infiltrating” the Occupy Oakland movement—at least not in a bad way.

He does criticize his fellow officers, though, in terms of their heavy-handed treatment of protesters in Occupy outposts around the country. “Ya’ll don’t need to throw gas canisters into a group of people occupying an intersection,” he tells interviewer Justin Warren in the clip posted below.

Shavies also says he supports the protesters’ cause, and that being a cop is just one aspect of who he is. “I identify with the 99 percent but also I have a job to do, right?” Right. And catching him in plainclothes mode was not a “gotcha” moment, in his estimation, but it makes for good viral material.  —KA

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OPD Officer Discusses Viral Copwatch Video from Justin Warren on Vimeo.

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By Tom Paine, November 14, 2011 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment
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He is a liar out to do damage control for the PD. He has caused trouble before, and he should be ashamed of himself. He cannot have it both ways, and for all police officers and enforcers there must be a choice made…the PD, or the American people. It is just that simple.

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By k, November 13, 2011 at 8:00 am Link to this comment
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This is the same cop who assaulted a KGO cameraman a couple of years ago and subsequently cost his city hundreds of thousands of dollars in a case settlement. He says that he loves his town, but then he beats up its journalists, propagates this weird notion that Oakland cops still regularly commit police brutality, and effectively takes away tons of money that could have gone to help improve his own community. SF Chronicle article about it: http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2010/06/02/roughed-up-cameraman-sues-oakland-police/

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By JoeBlackMan, November 13, 2011 at 6:34 am Link to this comment
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Interesting that the mainly (I’m assuming)white posters are treating this enemy of freedom and justice as some kind of tainted hero caught in a personal struggle to reconcile his role as a police man(defender of property and wealth) with his alleged sympathies for the under privileged class he comes from.

Well this clown is no Bradley Manning whose conduct leaves no doubt about his loyalties.

This guy is just a fool who got caught infilitrating a movement, no doubt, with a view to disrupting it.

I don’t like police men or soldiers, neither of whom have ever protected me or the people I come, that I would give them the benefit of doubt when they’re caught spying on my public activities.

I’ve been following Chris Hegdes and the Occupy movement since before it was executed and was initially disappointed at the slow take up in the black community.

But my feelings have since changed, as I’ve begun to pick up on the subtle clues that give away what this is really about.

I’m now happy that most blacks are displaying a healthy cynicism about “Occupy” since it seems to be a bunch of middle class white people who are just pissed off that some other white people got richer off robbing them instead of robbing us.

kiss teet.

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By Cinque Malcolm, November 13, 2011 at 3:11 am Link to this comment
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Anyone that believes a cop during situations like this is simply naive and will fall for anything.  The truth of the matter is that his loyalties are with the police department and when push comes to shove, he will be shoving his baton into your gut and backing his fellow officers when the chips are down.  It is what it is.

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By TheEnd, November 12, 2011 at 11:35 am Link to this comment

That was the most amazing bit of equivocation I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure if this is the best we can expect from police or if cracks are finally starting to show in the blue wall of silence. - TheEnd

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By litlpeep, November 12, 2011 at 10:41 am Link to this comment

for Emile Z

“I think it is pretty stupid to say “If you’re black, how can you be a cop”. We need more black cops. The police should be more involved with the community and vice versa. Ideally anyway.”

We need more citizens so we don’t need so many cops.

Too many of us are too smug in our tiny little bubbles of comfort zones, and are content using our leisure time channel surfing, or ocean surfing, or watching the game, etc.

Too few of us are doing what the Occupy citizens are doing: being citizens, and standing up in public for what we believe.

It is important to participate in online dialogues.  But this is a shadow compared to the citizens who are being shadowed.

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By litlpeep, November 12, 2011 at 10:35 am Link to this comment

Okay, so we are to believe he was an undercover cop inside Occupy Oakland, and we are to suppose now that he was covertly working for Occupy Oakland’s rights?

Hello?  Anybody home?

Maybe.  Maybe nobody in the whole Oakland police department is home with their conscience.

Rather like New York and a host of other police departments around the nation.

Not all US police departments. Perhaps only 99% of them.

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By litlpeep, November 12, 2011 at 10:34 am Link to this comment

Okay, so we are to believe he was an undercover cop inside Occupy Oakland, and we are to suppose now that he was covertly working for Occupy Oakland’s rights?

Hello?  Anybody home?

Maybe.  Maybe nobody in the whole Oakland police department is home with their conscience.

Rather like New York and a host of other police departments around the nation.  Perhaps only 99% of them.

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By EmileZ, November 12, 2011 at 12:42 am Link to this comment

I think most police officers probably feel like outsiders to a certain extent.

You go to a barbecue, and someone asks what you do, you tell them you are a police officer and you are likely to be treated a little differently.

As a result, officers often retreat from society to a certain degree, and spend more time associating with other officers, so they don’t have to deal with that kind of stuff.

I think it is pretty stupid to say “If you’re black, how can you be a cop”. We need more black cops. The police should be more involved with the community and vice versa. Ideally anyway.

It is a shame that police feel they have to send incognito officers into Occupy Oakland, but I guess that is where we are at right now. It is sad for both “sides”.

On the other hand, there are certain actions that, as an officer, should be beyond acceptable. Like firing rubber bullets and tear gas cannisters at peaceful demonstrators, or allowing a fellow officer to brutalize a peaceful demonstrator (or covering for them if they did).

I dunno.

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By Outraged, November 11, 2011 at 11:23 pm Link to this comment

Re: gerard

I agree. Which is why (and I’m going to say it again),
the BIG issues the majority of people agree upon. Stick
together.

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By joebackman, November 11, 2011 at 7:07 pm Link to this comment
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This buffoon is clearly an infiltrator, the same type that would have been recruited into COINTELPRO.

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By JDS, November 11, 2011 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment
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It would be interesting to know from Mr. Shavies whether there are other police officers with similar belief systems as his?

1: What percentage of the police agree with OWS?

2: Do the police officers see the OWS movement as supporting justice for their families?

3: For those officers that abusive, why are they so?

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By gerard, November 11, 2011 at 3:55 pm Link to this comment

The problem of divided loyalties.  We all have them, to one degree or another. Divided loyalties may be uncomfortable, may cause trouble, but—they also
remind you that you are alive and human and keep you from going over the edge.  Facing them honestly is where it’s at, and this guy faces them honestly.  I admire him very much.

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