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Posted on Apr 19, 2007
McCain and Obama

It looks like the two senators have decided to skip their respective primaries and run against each other directly on the “Situation Room.” In all fairness this isn’t a feud so much as John McCain sniping at Barack Obama’s airtime with e-mail.

Watch it:

(h/t: PoliticsTV)

Note: This video was apparently condensed and uploaded by the McCain campaign. Still, we think it has value.

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By Eskit, March 3, 2008 at 9:05 am #
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Since being in the US Senate, Obama has never once stood up to the powers-that-be. They want money for war, he accomodates them. They want a free-trade agreement that ignores the workers and the environment, he accomodates them. I support his kindly and inspiring words, but I have yet to be convinced that he will antagonize the big banks or the Pentagon in order to make his stated dreams come true. That’s why I’ve made several videos that satirize his candidacy (go to YouTube and search for “obama-rama eskit” and “obama music video eskit”).

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By CitizenE, April 22, 2007 at 9:33 pm #
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I am 100% behind cessation of the occupation in Iraq.  Nonetheless, I believe, Americans should be prepared for the bloodbath to follow, and political leaders should have some viable plan for US-Middle East relations and the safest possible way for the troops to redeploy.  The mistake was going in the first place, but we can’t turn back time, and Americans need to understand that part of the problem of the Bush administration besides the awful and heinous elements of their approach is an utter lack of expertise, statesmanship, and competent staffing.

Mc Cain says he isn’t for an unlimited stay, but has no answer for how even in Petreus plan, there are not enough troops to support that plan, that our military is being decimated, our national wealth being drained without any real objective insofar as anyone can see.  And he has no other plan for what will happen if this surge, which does not seem to be anywhere near as successful as he paints it, goes the way of all our other socalled successes, such as cleaning out Fallujah, and the temporary pacification of Tal Afar.  Indeed, things in Iraq appear to have gone from worse to even worse than that.  It’s not going to be pretty, and we are going to need leadership that is savvy and forethinking.

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By pacrat, April 22, 2007 at 12:02 pm #
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Is Obama ready to become president? Is George
Bush ready to become president - I mean actually win - before he was selected by his daddy’s supremes? That gave Rove four years to strategize on how to steal a second term - but he won by only 2 percent of the vote that is still under investigation. As for McCain, he’s too old and apparently has been in the Arizona sun too long to be a serious challenger. Bomb McCain, Bomb McCain, Bomb McCain. Looks like he blew himself out of the campaign!!

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By Gabir, April 21, 2007 at 1:55 am #

Has anyone ever considered what John McCain’s military service was really all about? During the time that he was flying bombing missions against North Vietnam , President Johnson personally chose many of the targets to be bombed - Bombed with CBUs - Cluster Bomb Units - bombs which exploded upon contact with their intended targets and sprayed napalm or phosphorus covered pellets over a thousand yard radius from point of explosion . These bombs were virtually useless in the demolition of military or factory installations , which leads one to question what role they could play if they did only minor damage to buildings .
      The truth is that President Johnson was not picking military or factory targets for strikes with CPUs , but instead mainly civilian targets - cities , villages , schools , etc. . Pilots flying these missions were aware of what they were dropping and the targets these bombs were intended for and yet the reverse impact of these missions on the pilots was obviously minimal , as they continued to fly and bomb .
    That’s my idea of a hero - a person who drops bombs designed for maximum civilian casualties . Why would John McCain view the Baghdad situation any differently . What he said was true , that he could walk safelf in the market* (*surrounded by 100 soldiers and choppers flying overhead ) . What does he care about the dire situation in Iraq . This one day of photo-ops for him and then he is safely back aboard his plane and headed home .
    Human need and suffering do not touch this poor excuse for a man , except for the period when he was paid to inflict needless casualties among innocents .

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By vet240, April 20, 2007 at 5:25 pm #
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To Issak:
First I apopogize for my typo of the word Congressional.

I don’t think Senator Obama is ready to be President I support Senator Clinton. As a matter-of-fact I sent the Obama campaign site an e-mail to that affect some time ago. I’m sure he won’t see it though.

I do know that Obama supported the effort to limit the scope of the Patriat act and to insert new safegaurds in the language. Further his speeches indicate he was for limiting the time in Iraq by at least November 2005 which was before Pelosi made the scene.

Isaak:
“More of the same, different glossier packaging.  The military industrial complex, snake oil and the usual suspects -will continue in their merry way unimpeded…because someone like Obama will not be the one to stand on their way as he has already demonstrated.  Keep in mind too who his “mentor” in the senate is: one Joe Lieberman…..”

While I don’t agree with your assessment of Obama, I do agree, it’s always just going to be more of the same.

And as for Joe? I always capitilize the first three letters of his name…LIEberman.

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By Margaret Currey, April 20, 2007 at 4:39 pm #
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The republicians are just going through the motions I believe that there is not a canadiate to run, Juliani will lose he has the morals of a young man and the body of a middle aged man, but he also has no feeling for his second wife.  I mean cheating on the second and going right to the third, I wonder when he will throw away wife #3 for the fourth?

The best person so far is Hiliary Clinton, with Hiliary you get Bill and this Bill is a different person than the one who was president, he will be a great advisor.

Does one remember the skit that he and Hiliary did about his packing her a lunch?

The man has one thing that some lack and that is a sense of hurmor.

Madder than a wet hen, from the state of Washington, city of Vancouver.

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By QuyTran, April 20, 2007 at 3:44 pm #

I’ve already told you guys that John McCain had left his brain in Hanoi Hilton !

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By issak, April 20, 2007 at 2:00 pm #

0.  #65071 by vet240 on 4/19 at 3:57 pm
“I went to the Coongressional Record to check out your statements about Obama. You’re wrong!”

Sorry to burst your bubble, Obama voted for the Patriot Act, and here’s a challenge for you: show me he voted against it, AND as I already said, until Pelosi (who seems endowed with the hell of a lot more courage than Obama) led that effort to pull the troops out –your hero has consistently voted FOR the war and not ONCE against it, until the Pelosi effort.

More of the same, different glossier packaging.  The military industrial complex, snake oil and the usual suspects -will continue in their merry way unimpeded…because someone like Obama will not be the one to stand on their way as he has already demonstrated.  Keep in mind too who his “mentor” in the senate is: one Joe Lieberman…..

In a sane world the likes of Feingold would be the real challengers.  Obama and Hillary a distinction without a difference.

Here’s an article just for you from as recently as January 2007
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/47231/

Enjoy!

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By hjfraser2002, April 20, 2007 at 1:49 pm #

I see Mccain is using the talking points. I heard the old follow us home if we left now line. If they are going to come it doesn’t matter if we are over there or not. They are going to come. When is the media going to question these statements? If he believes that, i have lost all hope for that man. Not that i ever had alot.

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By tmulvey, April 20, 2007 at 11:06 am #
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McCain seems as immersed in a state of denial as GW and Cheney are. A military solution to this quagmire has not and will not work. It’s scary to think he wants to be president, but as long as he identifies himself with the war his chances are zip anyway.

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By bobnkije, April 19, 2007 at 8:28 pm #

I resent both Obama and McCain talking without ever mentioning the truly staggering price that the Iraqi people have paid for our arrogance and refusal to ever consider the diplomatic option.  Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate who has put his career where his words are and repeatedly voted to prevent and defund this truly mad escapade.

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By vet240, April 19, 2007 at 7:57 pm #
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#64981 by issak a comment:

I went to the Coongressional Record to check out your statements about Obama.

You’re wrong!

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By Hammo, April 19, 2007 at 5:43 pm #

McCain seems to be in melt down. People no longer like him. They have questions about his mental health. Things just don’t feel right about him.

Sadly, he seems to have lost his honor ... the one thing he had going for him.

Take a look at:

“Victory of Courage, Fellowship and Honor”

PopulistAmerica.com
December 17, 2006

http://www.populistamerica.com/victory_of_courage_fellowship_and_honor

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By vet240, April 19, 2007 at 4:44 pm #
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MadCain is singing the same song that was sung involving vietnam. “We are making progress, there has been a change in the leadership (in Vietnam) which will lead us to victory”.

Will Obama get the same immediate response to any MadCain connents in the future on in “The Situation Room”?

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By issak, April 19, 2007 at 12:37 pm #
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No question Mr. Obama is an articulate man, his words make a lot of sense, HOWEVER, his record in the senate does not denote or affirm a true conviction abou this. 

Until Pelosi led the way attempting to place some sort of restriction and a viable alternative to the madness, Mr. Obama seemed happy to vote along and not once did he oppose defunding that stupid war. 

Unlike Feingold, Obama shows no true leadership qualities- he appears to me to be another grand illusion erected and proped by a media that simply cannot be trusted.

As for McCain, he lost he soul somewhere between 2000 and now -sad.

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By anonymous, April 19, 2007 at 12:01 pm #
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That Blitzer cracks me up!  Reminds me of Conrad Dobler doing Miller Lite commercials.

Since there wasn’t a retort from Barack, I assume he’s opposed to wrestling with pigs.

In the future, he’d be better off just reminding the trouble makers that Mccain’s old and shouldn’t be made fun of.

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By Frostedflakes, April 19, 2007 at 10:48 am #

John McCain is an idiot.I am so glad that he is leading a failed presidential campaign. Hopefully following his soon to come defeat we will never have to hear from him again. He is a truly delusional fool.

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By Jay Dwight, April 19, 2007 at 9:55 am #
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Since the issue of potential genocide has been raised, one has to consider the number of Iraqis who have already been killed by the United States: half a million dead by sanctions, and 650,000 dead by war. Genocide has already occured, by my calculations.

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