Many of the entries are directed against the NightWatchman and his criticism of Kristol.  The blogger did not cite the race of Kristol, but rather expressed his disdain for Kristol’s support of Israel.  I couldn’t disagree more strongly with Kristol and his completely erratic viewpoint of the world, but no one here that I have read has picked on Kristol’s race.  Who knows but that one day Kristol may wake up in an alternative universe with a rifle in his hand, smack dab in the middle of the Green Zone, with rocket explosions going off around him and his comrades in arms dying in his arms, while other hawkish pundits continue to debate his plight in the safety of the continental U. S.  He would then have an epiphany and immediately decide that he has been more wrong about this issue than any other in his life, and would come back from his fourth tour in Iraq with a whole new attitude and become a vocal spokesperson for the anti-war movement, standing side by side with those who have had enough of our “democratic” government leaders lying to its citizenry about the war.
Or maybe I’M the one who lives in an alternative universe….
Things that make you go, “Hmmmm…”

The Doc

“#74167 by Douglas Chalmers on 5/31 at 11:45 am
(315 comments total)

“Quote #67889 by JNagarya on 5/02 at 11:00 pm: “...Those “truths” were forged, of course, from their opposite—without which they not only wouldn’t be necessary, but wouldn’t exist….... Buddhism is beyond even that divisiveness.  That unresolved contradiction.  Try paradox…..”

“Not so much “contradiction” but opposites in action, JNagarya.”

“[O]pposites in action” is contradiction. A paradox is a resolved contradiction.

“That is, the results of yours and others’ actions are for the better or for the worse.”

It depends upon _intent_.  One does not accumulate negative karma for accidentally stepping on and killing an ant.

“The only paradox is that people still think that they can avoid that great “law of karma”.”

That isn’t a paradox.  It is more likely ignorance of the term, and or its meaning.  Such as the fact that whether their is karma, and whether negative or positive, depends upon _intent_.

“Thus there is “blowback” instead of progress in any positive sense.”

Learn the accurate and full meaning of “karma”—including the fact that it is not only or inevitably negative.  See accesstoinsight.org.

“We all want justice when we are wronged and we all know what is truth in our innermost beings.”

Our “innermost beings” (is there actually such a thing?*) are also the locus of innumerable unsubstantiated fantasies and illusions. 

*See accesstoinsight.org.

“Those who scheme and manipulate for the sake of votes or dollars or prestige have their egos to thank for their eventual downfall. All empires go the way of rotting flesh.”

Gee, it’s a good thing _we_ don’t have ego, or ego investments, therefore are “superior” in our wrongful “righteousness”.

“Whether we want to admit it or not, we are ALL part of the ONE creation.”

Prove it to be a “creation”.

“The difference is between us and the animals as to the fact that we have extensive ability to imagine and to choose.”

Would that difference, if it can be determined to exist, make a difference if everything is “part” (sic) of “one creation”?

“Yet, again paradoxically, we continually wall ourselves into tiny one-way dead-ends. That is not the way life was meant to be lived.”

Not only is that not paradox, it is difficult to find ground on which to stand and from which to propound “the way life was meant [by what or whom? who says?] to be lived.”

Quote #67889 by JNagarya on 5/02 at 11:00 pm: “...Those “truths” were forged, of course, from their opposite—without which they not only wouldn’t be necessary, but wouldn’t exist….... Buddhism is beyond even that divisiveness.  That unresolved contradiction.  Try paradox…..”

Not so much “contradiction” but opposites in action, JNagarya. That is, the results of yours and others’ actions are for the better or for the worse. The only paradox is that people still think that they can avoid that great “law of karma”. Thus there is “blowback” instead of progress in any positive sense.

We all want justice when we are wronged and we all know what is truth in our innermost beings. Those who scheme and manipulate for the sake of votes or dollars or prestige have their egos to thank for their eventual downfall. All empires go the way of rotting flesh.

Whether we want to admit it or not, we are ALL part of the ONE creation. The difference is between us and the animals as to the fact that we have extensive ability to imagine and to choose. Yet, again paradoxically, we continually wall ourselves into tiny one-way dead-ends. That is not the way life was meant to be lived.

#67841 by Douglas Chalmers on 5/03 at 1:51 am
(234 comments total)

Confucianism
Do not do to others what you would not like yourself. Then there will be no resentment against you, either in the family or in the state. Analects 12:2

Buddhism
Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful. Udana-Varga 5,1

Christianity
All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye so to them; for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:1

Hinduism
This is the sum of duty; do naught onto others what you would not have them do unto you. Mahabharata 5,1517

Islam
No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself. Sunnah

Judaism
What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellowman. This is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary. Talmud, Shabbat 3id

Taoism
Regard your neighbor’s gain as your gain, and your neighbor’s loss as your own loss. Tai Shang Kan Yin P’ien

Zoroastrianism
That nature alone is good which refrains from doing another whatsoever is not good for itself. Dadisten-I-dinik, 94,5
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Those “truths” were forged, of course, from their opposite—without which they not only wouldn’t be necessary, but wouldn’t exist. 

Buddhism is beyond even that divisiveness.  That unresolved contradiction.  Try paradox.

#67881 by Ernest Canning on 5/03 at 5:02 am
(109 comments total)

This is a lovely, accurate, truthful statement—

“Re comment #67843 by Lefty.  If you had said that Bill Kristol was a Zionist, I would agree.  That is a statement about where neoconservatives stand with respect to the racist policies of the Israeli state.  As revealed by the exhaustively researched works of Chris Hedges and Jeremy Scahill, among others, much of what we describe as the radical Christian right would fit the description of Zionist as well.  It is a statement about the “politics” of the “individual,” not one’s genetic inheritance.

“When you dismiss someone, like Kristol, as a “Jew,” you are no longer making a statement about his political views.  You are succumbing to one of the most despicable forms of racism, “anti-semitism,” a tool used by the Nazis that led to the genocide commonly known as the Holocaust.”

[And also separating out one group for blame when in fact and reality other groups—Fundamentalist “Christians” as example—“Zionists” are not the only group bearing responsibility.—J.N.] 

“The fact is there are large numbers of Jews both inside Israel and elsewhere who are anti-Zionist; anti-AIPAC.  Many are listed by name in Peter RV’s posting, comment #67781.

“Like President Carter, I believe strongly that the answer lies in “peace, not a apartheid.” Israel’s brutal and illegal occupation of Palistinian lands, like the U.S. brutal and illegal occupation of Iraq amount to war crimes.  If we are ever to move others to the point that they will understand that view, those of us who consider ourselves progressives must avoid the use of racist language.  How can we ever hope to bring peace in this world, if the words we employ are geared only to fan the flames of hatred?”

#67869 by Fadel Abdallah on 5/02 at 9:32 pm
(28 comments total)

To: #67781 by Peter Rv on 5/02 at 2:23 pm

“Excellent post Peter; every word of it is sadly true.

“I was particularly impressed by your highlighting the shameful pandering of both Democrats and Republicans when you stated that “Hillary, Obama, Edwards, McCain, Giuliani, Romny, etc; every one of them has gone to Israel to swear allegiance to defend Israel, just as the AIPAC requires. Every one of them promises not to stop this bloody war but to improve our War Machine.””

One must get elected before one can make changes.  Politics, unfortunately—and this is on the electorate, not on the politicians—require one not tell the “wrong” truth at the “wrong” time, else one lose the election. 

Look at the ridicule being heaped upon Gravel—not only by the media—for telling the correct—yet “wrong”—truth at the “wrong” time.  (“Wrong” time?  This country is still not able to accept the fact that all US troops who died in Viet Nam—we aren’t even to Iraq yet—died in vain.)

Stop ascribing all responsibility to everyone but the electorate: We the people essentially elects itself, its own values, to office.  When the elected offical is corrupt, s/he was elected by We the people from among ourselves—and essentially because corrupt in the “correct” way and direction as concenrs the electorate’s own values and day-to-day conduct Cutting moral, ethical, and legal corners elects cutting moral, ethical, and legal corners.

Ours is a _representative_ _self_-gov’t.

We the people gets the gov’t not merely that it only passively deserves but that which it actively elects.

It is, of course, easier to be a hypocrite than to admit that fact: do as I say, not as I do—and don’t you/my elected representatives dare prohibit that which I do.

Re comment #67843 by Lefty.  If you had said that Bill Kristol was a Zionist, I would agree.  That is a statement about where neoconservatives stand with respect to the racist policies of the Israeli state.  As revealed by the exhaustively researched works of Chris Hedges and Jeremy Scahill, among others, much of what we describe as the radical Christian right would fit the description of Zionist as well.  It is a statement about the “politics” of the “individual,” not one’s genetic inheritance.

When you dismiss someone, like Kristol, as a “Jew,” you are no longer making a statement about his political views.  You are succumbing to one of the most despicable forms of racism, “anti-semitism,” a tool used by the Nazis that led to the genocide commonly known as the Holocaust. 

The fact is there are large numbers of Jews both inside Israel and elsewhere who are anti-Zionist; anti-AIPAC.  Many are listed by name in Peter RV’s posting, comment #67781.

Like President Carter, I believe strongly that the answer lies in “peace, not a apartheid.”  Israel’s brutal and illegal occupation of Palistinian lands, like the U.S. brutal and illegal occupation of Iraq amount to war crimes.  If we are ever to move others to the point that they will understand that view, those of us who consider ourselves progressives must avoid the use of racist language.  How can we ever hope to bring peace in this world, if the words we employ are geared only to fan the flames of hatred?

To: #67781 by Peter Rv on 5/02 at 2:23 pm

Excellent post Peter; every word of it is sadly true.
I was particularly impressed by your highlighting the shameful pandering of both Democrats and Republicans when you stated that “Hillary, Obama, Edwards, McCain, Giuliani, Romny, etc; every one of them has gone to Israel to swear allegiance to defend Israel, just as the AIPAC requires. Every one of them promises not to stop this bloody war but to improve our War Machine.”

I share with you a great disappointment in Democrats, whom I traditionally used to support. I donated $ 500.00 to them in the last midterm elections; and I feel now that was the worst gamble I ever made. Though they got a popular mandate to restore the sanity of this country and impeach the evildoers, they have failed to do any thing of substance in the six months since the election. I am wondering what makes them so cowards to raise hell!

The only explanation I can think about is that the fate of the U.S.A. has been tragically sealed to become parallel to Israel in every respect. Though Israel had the Likud and the Labor, and more recently Kadima, they all proved to be the same as far as war, militarism, arrogance, injustices and oppression against the Palestinians is concerned. The same applies to Republicans and Democrats; they are competing with each other to prove who is more loyal to Israel, even in her evil.

Even the levels of scandals, corruption and disregard for the people have gone so parallel to the point that, like Bush and gang, Olmert and gang insist that they are going to continue to rule and stay the evil course they’ve been following, with unprecedented loss of lives, treasure and security in both countries.

It’s indeed the ultimate tragedy of modern times how the two most bragged about so-called democracies have become so evil to the point that in a recent world survey, most of the world ranked Israel and the United States as representing the greatest danger to world peace and security!

Confucianism
Do not do to others what you would not like yourself. Then there will be no resentment against you, either in the family or in the state. Analects 12:2

Buddhism
Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful. Udana-Varga 5,1

Christianity
All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye so to them; for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:1

Hinduism
This is the sum of duty; do naught onto others what you would not have them do unto you. Mahabharata 5,1517

Islam
No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself. Sunnah

Judaism
What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellowman. This is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary. Talmud, Shabbat 3id

Taoism
Regard your neighbor’s gain as your gain, and your neighbor’s loss as your own loss. Tai Shang Kan Yin P’ien

Zoroastrianism
That nature alone is good which refrains from doing another whatsoever is not good for itself. Dadisten-I-dinik, 94,5

When will one or another talking head ask such as William Kristol when they will be enlisting, and demanding to be sent to Iraq, so they can show us how to “do it right” by winning it singlehandedly?

Is that too difficult a question to ask?

Is it too much to ask? 

Would it be “rude” to ask such a question of those who are directly responsible for the unjustified mass murder of hundreds of thousands? 

Are hundreds of thousands of unjustified deaths not sufficiently “rude” in itself to warrant such a “rude” question of he and his fellow failures?

#67241 by THOMAS BILLIS on 4/30 at 7:02 am: “...If I am not mistaken Kristol has already made the case to invade Iran….”

Isn’t that why Bush extended the military’s tour of duty in Iraq to 15 months? So that they have as many there as possible for an attack on Iran?

Extended deployment is what they have been foisting onto the troops since 2003. It shouldn’t have been any longer than six months!

AMAZING DISGRACE - The Betrayal of Soldiers and Their Families http://www.ustourofduty.org/pages/videoAmazing_high.html

Unbelievable, then, that Bush is ranting about “supporting our troops” and “failure” if they are brought home. That sounds more like Hitler and the Eastern front…..

I can understand that woman pleading that the soldiers are exhausted and their families distraught. I don’t think that was a fair reason to call for re-instating the draft, though.

#67547 by Stanley on 5/01 at 1:21 pm
(Unregistered commenter)

“For those of you who have been posting that most American Jews support our efforts in Iraq, I suggest you pay closer attention to such non-hawks as Feingold, and Feinstein, Chomsky, and Soros,Levin and Schumer.  The reality for those of you whose minds are not already too closed to accept it, is that the large majority of American Jews are Democrats and are as disgusted with Bush as the majority of all Americans.”

Seconded.

Note that most of those who bash gov’t (and fault “Jews”) don’t actually pay attention to gov’t, therefore don’t know what gov’t is actually doing.

“Everyone” is corrupt is the excuse.  In fact, We the people elect the corruption from among ourselves.  Ain’t it time We the people stopped blaming others, and instead accepted responsibility for either supporting the corruption, or allowing it (or “suffering” corruptions not to our choosing) to continue by being disengaged—the reason for the latter being the “corruption”?

Ted Kennedy takes a constant scurrilous bashing by the Reich Wing.  And no defense from many who claim to be “liberal”.  Apparently they didn’t see his statement of opposition to the Iraq war before it began when it was said, and haven’t seen it since.  The excuse?—“They’re all corrupt”.

Relatedly—

The actual foundation of the house of cards is not 9/11.  It is 12/12/2000, and the subversion in the collusion between Bushit, et al., with his frivolous case brought to the wrong Constitutional forum, and the SC 5 who unconstitutionally usurped the exclusive authority of Congress to address and resolve such election disputes.

But that was out front, in broad daylight; it doesn’t satisfy the desire for intrigue, for religiosmut superstition, and “hidden hands,” even if it must be invented, of the conspirabunkers. 

The theft of the 2000 election, based upon unconstitutional usurpation, is sufficient to the end of impeachment and removal; actual evidence of the war crime of torture is sufficient to “rendition” of the perpetrators to the Hague; we don’t need unevidenced conspirabunk re. 9/11 to make the case, regardless the corrosive, infotainment “fun” of imagining up even more dire unevidenced conspirabunk, and metasticizing those into yet more unevidenced, socially corrosive conspirabunk.

The “revolutionary” era was rife with conspiracy theories, fervently—and uncritically—believed.  99 per cent of them turned out to not exist—out side the minds of the conspirabunkers.

Same goes for the framing period—99 per cent of which turned out to not exist outside the minds of conspirabunkers.

The giveaway that conspirabunkers are superstitious suckers is when the paradighmatic “jews” comes into the pictures as the central villain.  Jews are no more or less asses than any other group; but conspirators, being, among myriad other irrationalities, reductionist, seek a “final conclusion”/“solution” which answers all their unevidenced, and unanswerable dilemmas.

Conspirabunk.  n.  Knowing what is going on based upon “hidden evidence” no one can prove exists, let alone substantiate as to imagined (and hysterically ginned up) contents.

It’s always that someone else is at fault, as concerns the finger-pointing crowd.  It is inevitable that the focus will be reduced to “Jews” because that is easiest and least rational “groove” to “dig”.

Blah, blah, blah…the same old talking points is all we get from these neo-con criminals.

This is all just a big chess game to them!

And we’re the pawns.

Google video: 9/11 Press for Truth

Neocons to the front lines.  Everyone else go home.

#67415 by John Lowell on 4/30 at 11:28 pm
(Unregistered commenter)

“JNagarya,

“I’ve made you feel uncomfortable?”

Not in the least.  Now let’s look at your mind-reading—

“Maybe that’s because your thinking and your instincts are just a little muddled here, chief. The man wanted to launch a “war” on “fundamentalist religion”, that’s exactly what he said. And if your mama hadn’t mentioned it to you when you were young, there’s a name for that kind of thing: Persecution. So if you’d rather not be classed down there in the gutter with Oberstgruppenfeuhrer Knudsen, you’ll have to discard your unconvincing attempt at distinction making. You’ve picked the wrong pigeon for a con like that.”

Sorry to provide you an instance of reason.  I’m hardly a defender of neo-con[artists].  In fact, I’ve been for impeaching Bush, et al., and the SC 5, since the election was stolen on 12/12/2000.

Alas, not all of us are as incapable of reading what is said, or only use such as excuse to preach against those who do not hold the views you impute and then bash.

#67277 by John Lowell on 4/30 at 9:58 am
(Unregistered commenter)

don knudsen,

You say:

“We need a war ..... on fundimentalist religion right here in america.”

“What do award you with for these sentiments, knudsen, the Iron Cross, First Class?

“One really wonders what kind of totalitarian pathology informs comments like yours. More and more one seems justified in worrying about the kind of leftish liberalism that is prepared to launch “wars” on people of faith no matter how much one might agree or disagree with them. God knows there’s enough of such out-and-out hatred of Christians and the Christian religion right here at this site to be concerned.”

There are rules to being a Christian.  Some of them are the Ten Commandments (not “Requrests”).  One of those is, “Thou shalt not kill.”  Bush claims to be a Chrisitan.

The fundamentalists, regardless “religion,” defend and promote death—contrary to the message of the King of Peace.  That is what you are defending.

And the engage in and support lying—

“Thou shalt not lie”; and “Thou shalt not lie against others”.  They have no problem with lying—especially their own, except that they attribute to others by lying.

“So please with the pretentions of moral superiority. Your attitudes are just garden variety brownshirt, the spitting image those that broke into and ransacked Jewish homes on Kristalnacht in 1938. Only the victim is different.”

Yeah, yeah, yeah—heard all those cliches before, a thousand times.  (I agree with the spirit of your statment.)  But don’t waste your time defending a doctrine—a doctrine is not a “faith”—as practiced by pro-war, pro-greed US “Christians”; otherwise and you’ll sound like a blind “Christian” who will obey any order, so long as the source of it has the “right” “religion”.

This military wife who asked Bill Kristol, “How do you sleep at night?” has, in fact, asked the wrong question, because in her natural humanity, she assumed that Bill Kristol is a normal human being with heart and feelings. However, she missed the point when she assumed that all “things” that look like humans are actually humans. Bill Kristol and his elk are devils in human shapes; they have the appearance of humans but have the hearts of savage beasts.

That’s precisely why such savages, as Kristol, have the best and deepest sleep possible. In fact, the more they see the evil results of their schemes, the better they sleep.

The only possibility for those coward evil ones to loose sleep is if the are shipped to Iraq so they can get a taste of their own medicine.

#67249 by Leefeller on 4/30 at 7:49 am
(Unregistered commenter)

“Ask Kristol this, what would a win look like?  Supporting this war should be a war crime. We should keep tabs.”

Ask him when he is going to put his hypothetical courage where his lying mouth is by enlisting, and demanding to be sent to Iraq so he can show us all how to win it singlehandedly.

And ask those in the media who give these anti-American shills a platform believe they should be viewed as intellegient and credible.

How does she sleep at night ? With all nightmares since her husband left home for hell in Iraq ! Very easy to understand.

The face of evil…what do you see when you see Bill Kristol ? Is it the same thing you see when you see Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter ? How about Dick “Draft Dodger” Cheney ? When you look at any of these neo-cons who are the architects of this war, as they continue to champion this disaster in amerca’s name, as they continue to tear away all that has for 200 years made america a beacon of hope into the worlds most de-stabilizing force, you are looking at the face of evil today. And ladies and gentleman these are all americans. We don’t need a phony war on terrorism while we continue to multiply the numbers of those that hate us. We need a war on Neo-cons, a War on fundimentalist religion right here in america.

The hard-core necons like Kristol and his associates seem to care nothing about our troops and their families.

The neocons seem to be manipulating American society to benefit other interests.

Americans must wake up to the fact that the neocons have infiltrated the Bush-Cheney administration and the media, and seem to pose a grave threat. More on this in:

“Are the U.S. media and public ready to deal with the troops severely wounded in the Iraq war?” (AmericanChronicle.com)

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=3349

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“‘Intelligence failures’ prior to 9/11, Iraq war: Planned strategies?” (AmericanChronicle.com)

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=3367