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Sure indicative of huckee boy to be on top of
someone who is trying to present the truth to
everyone so’s to, as said above, make real
informed decisions. And since huck the fuck
wants to be judge jury executioner, well hell, just
god in general, why in hell’s name doesn’t he
look into the events of the home grown terrorist
attack of 9/11/01.

He regales in his position to be the nazi selector
who decides who goes to the ‘showers’ or to the
slave labor camp which in my view ties him to
those home grown terrorists he protects so
diligently. And he just adds more credence to
how horrible religious fervor is to this planet.

Until the attack of 9/11/01 is thoroughly, this
country will only keep getting worse and more
infected by insidious home grown terrorists.

Narrow thinking from a very narrow mind.

And this guy is a Christian?

Apology accepted, question everything. Keep questioning.

You must be joking Patrick Henry. The truth about 9/11 is in no way flattering to the state of Israel so I hardly think they would be encouraging transparency and open debate on the issue. Something like Wikileaks is their worst nightmare since they spend most of their time controlling and manipulating the mainstream media.

I guess I’m not the only one who believes Assange is a tool of the Issies.

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/294/056/Is_the_Internet_9_11_Under_Way.html

Assange is a wanted man because he embarrassed the current administration and showed them to be the low brows that they really are.

Nothing new here, just gossip against each other.

Assange is a 9/11 denier and will not offer anything regarding that event.  Another example of why I think he is Israels back pocket and is nothing more than a disinformation campaign.

Question nothing, new here?

@Diamond

Ok I apologise; I shouldn’t have said “bozo the clown”. You’re entitled to your POV on the 9/11 thing; I just don’t see the relevancy here. The other stuff you said, I mostly agree with.

That’s a bit rich coming from someone who called me Bozo the clown, question everything. But that’s okay, it’s a free country and that’s your opinion - but you don’t allow me to have my opinion on 9/11 just because it’s different to yours and probably makes you feel threatened. I can assure you I never make any comment that is not thoroughly researched and I’m always very careful of the sources I take information from. I’ve been studying the 9/11 attacks for several years now and from the facts I’ve found in books and elsewhere the official story simply doesn’t stack up (and in fact there are glaring and even comical inconsistencies in the official version of events).  The accusation of rape against Assange doesn’t stack up either.

I don’t put comments on here to be respected but because I believe them to be accurate and relevant and because I feel they might contribute something to the subject being discussed. I don’t think there’s any mandated limit on how many comments you can make but if someone says something uninformed or truly moronic, especially about me or something I’ve said then I think I have a right to put my view.

@Diamond

Some of what you say is well written on Assange; your abusive language & conspiracy tehoris on 9/11 win no converts though.

Stick to the facts & stop writing so many comments, and people will respect your work more.

Your points on Assange make sense & we can respect that part.

In an article by Dylan Welch, ‘Timing of Sex Case Sparks Claims of Political Influence’ December 4-5 he makes the following points.

1. The two women involved in the rape claims are members of a Christian political party.

2. The women, according to a lawyer who acted for Assange, sent each other text messages, ‘collaborated and irrevocably tainted each other’s evidence’ before they went to the police.

3. The women admit the sex was consensual but claim that Assange refused to use a condom.

4.When the newspaper “Expressen’ contacted the Swedish prosecutor’s office a ‘spokewoman’ confirmed the investigation related to Assange. As a result Assange learned that he had been accused of rape from the media.

5. After this a google search of ‘Assange’ and ‘rape’ returned 9.2 million hits.

6. Assange is in ’ a strange legal netherworld’. At no point has he or his British lawyers been given access to the evidence against him in English - a requirement under the European Convention on Human Rights.

7. Even his Swedish barrister, Bjorn Hurtig, was not given access to the prosecution’s brief until several hours before a court appearance on November 18. It’s normal practice for a defense lawyer to be given at least a month to examine a brief of evidence before being expected to make legal submissions to it.

8. The case was announced by a junior prosecutor but within days it was taken up by a senior prosecutor, Eva Finne. Finne dropped the rape charges after examining the evidence. Assange stayed in Sweden and was interviewed by Swedish police on August 31. The next day Marianne Sy, the Director of Prosecutions in Sweden took the case over and announced that she was reopening the rape investigation due to ‘new information’.

9. Assange sought and was given permission to leave Sweden in October.

10. Hurtig has suggested that the haste with which this all unfolded is because of political interference by the United States: ‘I do find it strange…that Interpol has made the arrest warrant public simultaneous to Wikileaks releasing its latest revelations. My mind remains open as to whether Prosecutor Ny has been influenced by any third party considerations.’

11. A statement on the Prosecutor’s office website reads, ‘Julian Assange has been detained in his absence charged with rape, sexual molestation and coercion’. This, in spite of the fact that he left Sweden with the full knowledge and permission of the police and presumably Prosecutor Ny and that the sex is admitted by both women to have been ‘consenual’.

The thing to remember here, is that Nelson Mandela was in jail for twenty seven years, but that didn’t make him a criminal: it made him a political prisoner who was a threat to the fascist apartheid state. Or to put it another way it’s like charging the man who stood in front of the tank in Tienamen Square with being a danger to tanks - or perhaps that should be banks in view of pending Wikileaks revelations on America’s bank gangs.

Julian Assange has done a great service to the US and
the world. He opened what heretofore has been a
‘secretive and malignant’ organizations records and
shown the world what Amerikka thinks about them. It
has also shown the people of Amerikka what their
governments thinking has been about the world’s
population and their governments. Amerikka can no
longer claim to be the bastion of freedom that it
once held itself out to be. We are fast becoming a
fascist government run by the corporatocracy. We, the
people are nothing more than sheeple to these
‘characters’ which have control of the bureaucracy of
our nation. Which bureaucracy was and is unelected
and unresponsive to the true government of this
nation, the people! Given this and other disturbing
trends in Amerikka, we now have no choice but
revolution of the highest order. We can no longer
stand these kind of elitist thinking and acting
‘people’ running our government. For the sake of your
children and future generations of this country, take
back this nation from the hands of the elitist power
structure. Give peace a chance and the world will be
a better place for the removal of the current power
structure of this nation.

...and for those of you who don’t already know, here’s the new Wikileaks site:

http://213.251.145.96/

I agree squeaky jones but just like Spec. Joseph Darby who revealed what was going on at Abu Ghraib he can expect death threats. Darby is now in some kind of witness protection program and had to leave the town where he lived. When people of conscience are being persecuted by the government and the law I think that’s a clue that you can’t wait until the dust settles, you need to support Assange and Wikileaks and speak out about the right to know the truth and demand that whistle blowers like Manning be protected not persecuted. American democracy is now officially on life support and if the neo cons and the corporations have their way it will be turned off.

Does that apply to Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Kyl of Arizona voting for the spread of nuclear weapons, Mitch McConnell who seeks the suffering of 2 million so that the filthy rich can get a tax cut. There is a long list of traitors, most of them Republicans.

If the wikileaks exposed some real secrets besides banal gossip and innuendo by political appointees, I think it is Huckabee and the rest of our government who should fear assassination.

You can tell who someone is by who their enemies are: look at who wants Assange taken out - Joe (I’m corrupt and I don’t care who knows it) Lieberman, Palin, Huckabee, DIANNE FUCKING FIENDSTEIN. What Assange wants is for the public to be given the actual truth so they can make informed decisions about their vote and who governs them and how they govern them. What these political criminals want to do is go on giving the public toys instead of the actual facts. When you give a child a toy car it’s not a car that the child can drive out on the highway it’s only a representation of a car. That’s what the elite wants to go on giving its slaves: a mere representation of the truth because the truth would give them knowledge and knowledge is power but they don’t want that knowledge and that power to belong to anyone but them.

The reason they had to manufacture the story about rape in Sweden is that Assange has broken no laws. Daniel Ellsberg was arrested for actually taking copies of the Pentagon Papers but my understanding is that the New York Times was not charged for publishing them and when Ellsberg went to court the judge dismissed the case saying that the public was entitled to the information Ellsberg had provided. Assange is functioning in this case as the publisher and if ever there was a time when the public needed the information he is providing, it’s now. The point is he didn’t leak it, he is not the whistleblower he is just publishing the information the mainstream media is not allowed to publish for the reasons I’ve given above. But I believe the US government wants to ‘purge’ itself of those who have actually become whistleblowers and they want to force Assange to tell them who they are. It’s highly unlikely that he actually knows who they are so the whole circus is just the evil doing what the evil do- supporting each other in their crimes.

The muderrous asshole doth protest too much methinks (as assholes normally do). When the piggies are exposed for all the shit they’ve been wallowing in. boy do they start to squeal! Scared as they are, they start shouting murderous retaliation.
Huckabee is a sick hypocritical farce.
Let’s talk Scotter Libby.

After the midterms, it’s fairly obvious that the whole “compassionate conservatives” thing got chucked out. Well, nobody believed it anyway, including them. It’s almost refreshing to see the right-wing swaggering toward hubris again.

December 2, 2010

How the Government and Its Press Flacks Collude in Lies

What the Wiki-Saga Teaches Us

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

“The reaction to WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange tells us all we need to know about the total corruption of our “modern” world, which in fact is a throwback to the Dark Ages. 

Some member of the United States government released to WikiLeaks the documents that are now controversial. The documents are controversial, because they are official US documents and show all too clearly that the US government is a duplicitous entity whose raison d’etre is to control every other government.

The media, not merely in the US but also throughout the English speaking world and Europe, has shown its hostility to WikiLeaks.  The reason is obvious. WikiLeaks reveals truth, while the media covers up for the US government and its puppet states.

Why would anyone with a lick of sense read the media when they can read original material from WikiLeaks?  The average american reporter and editor must be very angry that his/her own cowardice is so clearly exposed by Julian Assange. The american media is a whore, whereas the courageous blood of warriors runs through WikiLeaks’ veins.

Just as american politicians want Bradley Manning executed because he revealed crimes of the US government, they want Julian Assange executed. In the past few days the more notorious of the dumbshits that sit in the US Congress have denounced Assange as a “traitor to america.” What total ignorance. Assange is an Australian, not an american citizen. To be a traitor to america, one has to be of the nationality. An Australilian cannot be a traitor to america any more than an american can be a traitor to Australia. But don’t expect the morons who represent the lobbyists to know this much.

Mike Huckabee, the redneck baptist preacher who was governor of arkansas and, to
america’s already overwhelming shame, was third runner up to the Republican presidential nomination, has called for Assange’s execution. So here we have a “man of God” calling for the US government to murder an Australian citizen.  And americans wonder why the rest of the world hates their guts.”

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Click on link for the rest:

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts12022010.html

What about Todd and Sarah Palin who did belong to group in Alaska who wanted to secede that state from the rest of America.Sarah even gave a speech for that group in June 2008 just before she was tapped to run as V.P. and how about Governor Perry from Texas and others who have had the same secessionist answer since the repugs lost the presidential run in 2008. To me they are TRAITORS.Palin calling for the targeting of democratic members,reload comments and all with a map of America and targets on it where the democrats she is against reside complete with their addresses and phone numbers. That is a traitor to this country, yet she laughs at the ignorance she is so well acquainted with and gives that winky,winky and gets by with that. Also Sarah’s rally during the campaign to “Kill him” and other anti non-Christian religions,she stood there cheering the crowds on when she was spouting her lies against Obama at that time,that is a traitor calling for the harm of others when making their introduction to the world of what America has running in the political arena. Any other American who did some of the things she has said and done would be spending their days in a federal pen for the remainder of their days.Same goes for Bush 2 and Cheney.

Love the double standards for those so called religious repukelicans with their high an mighty attitude.Judge not and didn’t their God say, “Revenge shall be mine!” according to their book of hearsay and fantasy?

The government should absolutely target Mr. Assange with a Predator Drone strike. Who cares if he is residing in Switzerland or South London? Why restrict Drone strikes to counties that are predominately full of “Brown people”, like Yemen and Pakistan, or to American citizens abroad? Fuck it. Kill everybody who threatens the State. Citizen or not. Islamic terrorist or truth teller. The State fears the truth more than Islamic terrorists. This is not a left/right, Democrat/Republican issue. The US is a Totalitarian Democracy, whether controlled by Democrats or Republicans. You should know this by now.

You need to look at where this is really coming from. Senator Joe Lieberman and his strong arming of Amazon should give you a clue.

What a smug shit you are, question everything, and you should be fined for false advertising. Question everything? Don’t you mean question everything except the official version of 9/11, a joke story that only a moron would believe. Numerous witnesses saw the plane shot down and Richard Clarke testified to the 9/11 Commission that he had the order to shoot the plane down from Bush on the morning of 9/11. He testified under oath and I believe him, not you: because someone who calls themselves ‘question everything’ and then refuses to question the lynchpin of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the war on terror really isn’t much interested in questioning anything. You obviously don’t know what the United States government and its intelligence services are capable of.  The forerunners of the US corporatocracy started killing people so they could occupy their land and steal their resources in the early 19th century. They haven’t stopped since and anyone who gets in their way will be taken out.

You can’t be a little bit pregnant, either you face what the American political/military/corporate monster has become or you pretend they were not behind 9/11. You can’t have it both ways.

I agree with elmer and roberr.
Where was Huckabee when a CIA operative was outed because her husband
corrected the White House untruths about Nigerian yellow cake?  Lives were on the
line because of it.  Yet, even the current president refused to have his A-G
investigate or prosecute.

We are a nation that has lost its moral compass.  It is appalling and terrifying.

@diamond - thanks for another typical bozo the clown statement of the “9/11 conspiracy theory”. Debunked, discarded rubbish. An obvious troll planted to discredit the rest of us.

What’s interesting is Assange is trying to expose criminal behaviour (along w/ the Americans who released the papers, the Times, Guardian etc). Contrast that to the criminals in the video above that openly calls for a man, who is pracitsing freedom of the press, to be “hunted down”. These “responsible men” use such epithets to rile up the barely literate to support their political agenda (he invoked Thacher - lol - another despised war criminal like Blair!)

One such riled up genius listed to “voice of reason”, Glenn Beck. He claims Beck gave him inspiration for an “Armed Plot Against ACLU & Tides” http://www.democracynow.org/2010/10/12/progressive_hunter_gunman_cites_glenn_beck

They’re inciting to violence. Assange didn’t do that. Who’re the criminals? Moving on to the next :organised crime syndicate: The military.

What? support “the troops”? That means support the politicians & their wars of aggression & occupation. The “genocidal” sanctions (Dennis Haliday, formed UN Ast Sec General) says 560,000 Iraqi children in the 90’s; Albright said “we think it’s worth it”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4 maybe a million since 2003.
http://www.johnpilger.com/videos/paying-the-price-killing-the-children-of-iraq

Elmer is correct. The criminal is who? Ohhh the cynicism. Don’t think “you” benefit. You’re not part of the elite. You’re just their pawn.

Huckabee is a shit. Always was, always will be. He is following in the footsteps of the bloodthirsty God he claims to worship. And, of course, the Canadians are worried. It was a Canadian general at Norad who gave the order for flight 93 to be shot down. Can’t you just imagine how these ghastly serial killers are all shitting their pants? Their ultimate fear is that Wikileaks has or will have the definitive proof of what they did and didn’t do (like sending the US Air Force up to confront the ‘hijackers’) on 9/11. Their fear is that eventually Interpol will be issuing a warrant for Dick Cheney and George W. Bush’s arrest instead of Assange. And how is it that this ‘red notice’ from Interpol is being issued for the first time in history over an allegedly broken condom? Unheard of. It’s all just a Trojan horse to get Assange into American hands where he can be suicided or framed for something else. Does anyone else notice the eerie similarity between the fact that the people who do the right thing are now the criminals while the criminals are protected by the law and by government and how it was in Europe during the Nazi era?

WOW! blood thirsty creeps, change the H to an F and
the B to a M now you come closer to the truth about
Huckabee. Separation of State and church, yes they
are ready to burn Julian at the stake. Tax payers pay
to be the boss, yet the OBAMA shuffle and the Bush
two step, leaves us with church Mouse Huckame, or
Mormon morons, what choices,  Clinton the Lutheran
and Sarah Palin Pentacostal, Obama who knows, can´t
count on any of them, Jokers to left and right stuck
on stupid, calling for an execution like Islam.
Instead of stoning just get stoned, They stone you
when you want to go home, I would not be so alone,
everybody must get stoned, Military chants-ravings.

I hope he isn’t still elected anywhere.

He needs to stick to his poor bass playing and crappy Fox show and quit playing Boston songs at his idiot conventions, its pissing off the Band.

Anyone… I repeat, ANYONE who advocates the murder of another, for any reason, is far too immature to run for dogcatcher let alone President. Even primative tribes knew that banishment from participation in society is a far greater punishment than is killing the offender. But (no)minds like the Huckster cannot be expected to understand that. They can’t get past “REVENGE.” So embarrassing. So sad.

when a true genius appears in the world, you may know
him by this sign, that the dunces are all in
confederacy against him.” — jonathan swift

Schmuckaby is an idiot. Perfect presidential material. I can’t wait.

Where was this man of GOD? when G.W. and Dicko outed Valarie Plame? You betcha!

How about all those repukelican GOPers who are holding up that nuke thing, thus making it more complicated and null and void if not ratified by the end of the year. The party of Mike are the ones actually siding in with Iran and North Korea’s leaders and aiding them against the best interest of America and the rest of the world.

Now that is treason with a capital “T” and therefore,by using Mikes thinking, they also should be put to death. Okay, you grid lock anti American Repugs,GOPers and T.P.ers, line up so Mike and perhaps Sarah to unload you anti-American hacks.Remember what Sarah says, “don’t retreat,reload.”

I’m sure he called for the executions of Scooter Libby and Dick Cheney when they revealed Valerie Plame’s CIA identity. Right Mike?

To be cursed by the devil is to truly be blessed!