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Posted on Oct 14, 2011
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In this episode of “Left, Right & Center,” show regulars Tony Blankley, Robert Scheer and Matt Miller, along with special guest panelist Laura Tyson, take on all things related to the economy in the week’s news, finding a lot of bad and ugly but not much good. Have a listen, for your own good.

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By EmileZ, October 17, 2011 at 6:50 am Link to this comment

RE: You like pojamas

My cat has cute, soft, furry pojamas that he keeps meticulously clean.

When I hear Mr. Scheer voicing his commentary and responses I feel as though I was wearing nice clean new, perfectly fitting pojamas of my own, though not as nice as my cat’s, his are the best, but stil….

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By SteveL, October 15, 2011 at 9:57 pm Link to this comment

Big government?  BIG GOVERNMENT needs to get out of Afghanistan, Iraq, and
stop enforcing patents for drug companies long after they have recouped their
expenses and have reasonable profit.

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By empirePie, October 15, 2011 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment

Dick Linked Morning     ePie       October 16th, 2011

Join up with the We the People not freeking from the Freekinomissists or toxic
non paying securities standing dormant; the grey water of the grey suits who
pack proposals with rentier pork while the trough runs red as bankers seek to
embed new sneakier planks for the windiest policies that don’t stir up the
underwater debree of lien holders linking dicks for their morning rituals …..

for morning or mourning,
…….. moaning for raggedly disguised rituals.
Nor is it a tuning fork for intellectuals trying to quantify
left center right
left center right
left center right

with an anarchist march past the freedom train,
pig blood going down the drain.
As butchers and plumbers find new hope in the underground economy; while
hoarding silver tea service from a granny who knew the true joy of slivering
slicing and dicing canning for the coming cold. … with no time to pilot a two
ton monster down the freeway to a sewing bee to sell a quilt at an auction
attended by the who of who’s who never miss a public opening while black
eyed irises watching from afar save coin to buy a sack of white, white rice

Meanwhile the crème de crop always on the drop of a new tip, prop each other
up
Looking for new ways to bet both ways
While others with deeper roots
Collect them
A bit a fiber, stooped, … watching the flicker of a meager fire
      The other
        That the corpulent pray for

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By John Steinsvold, October 15, 2011 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment

Skimohawk,

You stated:
“No, John- I wasn’t making any comparisons at all.
You pointed to a URL, I logged onto it, started
reading it, and found it to be the same delusional
pipe-dream stuff Karl Marx wrote.”

The ONLY common denominator between a way of life
without money and socialism/communism/Marxism is
economic equality which, in my opinion, we
desperately need here in the USA. Economic equality
will eliminate poverty. It will also eliminate
materialism which warps our sense of value and
corrupts our system. It will also reduce crime
dramatically. Otherwise, our government will remain
the same. The Democrats will still do battle with the
Republicans. Our free enterprise system will still
exist.

You stated:
“The “free enterprise” system you seem to cherish
only works if there’s some incentive for those
involved.”

The best way to motivate people is to allow them to
do the work they love to do. One of the goals of a
way of life without money is to provide everyone with
the opportunity to find a match between their
abilities and the opportunity to serve society. If
training is necessary, a free education is provided.
Every effort will be made for each individual to find
the work they love doing. There will be no pressure.
I believe everyone has an ability or talent they want
to use for the benefit of society.

Work will become a way to meet people with common
interest. Work will become a way to help people. It
is a proven fact that people like to help one
another. Thus, everyone will freely cooperate with
one another. An “esprit de corps” will naturally
build up and make work more enjoyable. There will be
no fear of “being laid off”. There will be no fear in
beating out the competition. There will be no fear in
having to make a profit. There will be no fear in
making enough money to pay our bills and taxes. There
will be no fear in having adequate medical coverage.

Perhaps for the first time in history, we, as a
nation and as a people, have the ability to conduct
our internal economic affairs without the need to use
money. We have the necessary democratic government,
we have the abundant resources, we have the
educational facilities and also the technical
knowledge to do so. In light of what is happening in
our economy today, should we not, at least, explore
this possibility?

John Steinsvold

The true business of people should be to go back to
school and think about whatever it was they were
thinking about before somebody came along and told
them they had to earn a living.
—Elizabeth Barlow

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By whatisbestinlife, October 15, 2011 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment
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Bob, you were on fire.  Looks like you’re making a push to bring some of the OWS energy to your soapbox.

Not that you haven’t fought the good fight in the past.  But it seems like you energized, focused and ratcheted it up a bit.

Tony sounds very very panicky early on, talking about OWS.  And where was Tony’s tin-foil hat theoriews about who is organizing it, when the Tea-Party were ramping up?

Also, listening to Matt and Tony yuck it up about insider Washington incestuous drama at the end, with notable silence from Bob, really put into high relief how much Washington has become our modern-day Versailles.

There’s a wave coming.  Smart analysts will see it, and smart leaders will get in front of it.

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By John, October 15, 2011 at 12:40 pm Link to this comment
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Don’t forget that Romney held a high position with the Mormon Church when it didn’t allow blacks in the church. He never spoke out against this racist policy. What does that say about the guy? Christopher Hitchens wrote a great piece about this.

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By skimohawk, October 15, 2011 at 2:26 am Link to this comment

equality? where?
where does it say anywhere that we’re equal? or that we should be? on some piece of paper written by white-wigged men who were all slave owners?
got a bridge you want to sell?

a heavy dose of reality for all of you:
women are the civilizing factor in society. they build nests.
men, left to their own devices, in a world without women, would wander around living out of their backpacks and eating each other.
go watch the first 17 minutes of “2001: A Space Odyssey”

again, we are not equal. we will never be equal.
no amount of wishing, or repeated choruses of “Kum Bay Ya” is going to make us equal.

(just in case you need another good dose of this sort of delusional fantasy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdO3R5MlbxA )

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By skimohawk, October 15, 2011 at 2:13 am Link to this comment

...and why can’t people here just say what they have to say?
why do I have to go log onto some URL to read some long-winded dissertation that may or may not be relevant to the subject at hand?
who has time to read all that stuff on all those websites?

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By skimohawk, October 15, 2011 at 1:58 am Link to this comment

No, John- I wasn’t making any comparisons at all.
You pointed to a URL, I logged onto it, started reading it, and found it to be the same delusional pipe-dream stuff Karl Marx wrote.
Communism was a social experiment that did not work. The collapse of the Soviet Union should have made that clear to any right-thinking individual.
Kindly point out for me the distinction between “kibbutz” and “communal”.

The “free enterprise” system you seem to cherish only works if there’s some incentive for those involved.
If you’re suggesting we go back to a moneyless society and some sort of “barter economy”, might I suggest we then as well do away with running water?

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By Alan, October 14, 2011 at 10:17 pm Link to this comment
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-I’m sorry, Bob, I can’t make it this week either,
we’re having a strategy session in Aspen.
—Look, Ariana, we can’t keep your punum in our
ensemble picture if you never show up anymore.
-Bob, do you want the money?
—You look great in that shot, Ariana, it is
perfect for the website.!
-That’s good, Bob, I’ll get back to you later.

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By John Steinsvold, October 14, 2011 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment

Skimohawk,

You commented:
“John Steinsvold, I was only able to read the article
you’ve cited to the point where it got to the part
about “to each according to his need” and then I had
to go vomit.”

Are you comparing the USA with communist Russia? In
my opinion, the Russian economy failed because
communism failed. It failed because the members of
the party enriched themselves at the expense of the
common people. The common people despised the members
of the party. Therefore, there was no cooperation
between them and failure was inevitable.

Marx and Lenin were avowed communists. As I envision
a way of life without money, we will gain economic
freedom in addition to our present freedoms. Our
government will remain the same as it is today. The
Democrats will still do battle with the Republicans.

The ONLY common denominator between a way of life
without money and socialism/communism/Marxism is
economic equality which, in my opinion, we
desperately need here in the USA. Economic equality
will eliminate poverty. It will also eliminate
materialism which warps our sense of value and
corrupts our system. It will also reduce crime
dramatically. Otherwise, our government will remain
the same. The Democrats will still do battle with the
Republicans. Our free enterprise system will still
exist.

John Steinsvold

“The whole fabric of society will go to wrack if we
really lay hands of reform on our rotten
institutions. ... From top to bottom the whole
system is a fraud, all of us know it, laborers and
capitalists alike, and all of us are consenting
parties to it.”
- Henry Adams, American politician 1910, quoted by
Gore Vidal in The Decline and Fall of the American
Empire

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By skimohawk, October 14, 2011 at 6:44 pm Link to this comment

John Steinsvold, I was only able to read the article you’ve cited to the point where it got to the part about “to each according to his need” and then I had to go vomit.

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By skimohawk, October 14, 2011 at 6:36 pm Link to this comment

Blankley’s terminal state of delusion notwithstanding, his comments do provide for some comic relief.
Laura brings up the most salient point: the investment in and repair of our infrastructure is the only way out of the unemployment debacle. FDR figured it out.
The problem is that those pulling the strings make a higher profit manufacturing weaponry and marketing war.
Until that dynamic is changed, things will remain the same (until they get worse.)

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By John Steinsvold, October 14, 2011 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment

An Alternative to Capitalism (if the people knew
about it, they would demand it)


Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed:
“There is no alternative”. She was referring to
capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still
persists.

I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism
for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

http://evans-
experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm


John Steinsvold

Perhaps in time the so-called dark ages will be
thought of as including our own.
—Georg C. Lichtenberg

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