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Kelsey Grammer Disses ‘Big Government,’ ‘Grown-Man Tickle Fights’

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Posted on Apr 19, 2010
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They’re rare, but there actually are a few Hollywood types out there who lean to the right, and even a couple who are willing to flex their conservatism in the public eye. Take Kelsey Grammer here, for example, who signals his disdain for “big government,” “left-handed scissors” and “grown-man tickle fights” in this ad for the Right Network. Could he be speaking in code?

At any rate, this new right-wing media outlet ought to give him and, say, Jon Voight a career boost. Maybe they can hang out with Ted Nugent and talk about guns on the air or something.  —KA

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By RenZo, April 23, 2010 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment

@ JKH
“You’re right - he’s misguided about who his enemy is.
But he’s not the only one.”

You are quite right. He is not the only one, and the others are not all Republicans nor all conservatives nor all wrong. I have no problem telling them at first hearing, but many many others in this country are easily confused, by agents who wish to confuse, and in confusing achieve their goal of dividing us (who are ridden hard, and put up wet). Tea-baggers, aside from their stupid name (an act of titillating the male genitalia), seem to be used willingly, almost innocently, by the Republicans who distort most everything in their ruthless competition. In sports it is about the game, but in politics the Republicans have no regard for the governed. Just like the rich with whom they pretend common purpose.

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By Benjamin Tasker, April 23, 2010 at 7:10 pm Link to this comment

@RenZo

“Our children, in fact, are dying in corporatist wars
whose goals we don’t even know.”
...
“Not coddling thiefs in charge of our banks, or
taking peoples’ homes away because the bankers
gambled on their mortgages (and won).”
...
“But then that is the shape of class warfare”

Again, the problem isn’t with the “right.” It’s with
our corporatist construct and I think deep down, you
realize that too - hence my strategic extractions.

“It is not ‘okay’ that he is opposing me.”

You’re right - he’s misguided about who his enemy is.
But he’s not the only one.

“I consider myself much more than that: righteous”
...
“I am just as funny, good looking, well educated
(better likely) and deserving of his millions”

Sounds to me like you have far more in common with
tea-partiers than you think.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment

AND ONE MORE THING!
@ Jeremy Keith Hammond

If we were all on the same side, we would, as I do, wish my country made me proud, by fostering peace, feeding hungry children, helping all citizens reach their potential. All this is patriotic, in my book. Taking care of Americans, improving their lives, keeping them safe.

Not bombing peasants in Afghanistan. Not putting bullets in childrens heads after waking them from sleep. Not buying humans from warlords then torturing them, crazy and sane, guilty and innocent. Not coddling thiefs in charge of our banks, or taking peoples’ homes away because the bankers gambled on their mortgages (and won).

I would like to be proud of this country for what it IS and DOES, not what flag waving idiots think is is.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 6:35 pm Link to this comment

@ Jeremy Keith Hammond,April 21 at 9:48 pm

What he said might not be wrong, but it is not going to get my agreement. He is on the wrong side of the legislative chamber, meaning when he says he is against “bureaucracy” he means regulatory agencies; as if the good bankers will police themselves. When he says anti-“taxes” he means “tax the poor””destroy the middle class””leave us trust funders alone”. When I consider taxes, I would like to think of healthcare, excellent public education, childcare, elder support services, good housing for all, modern bridges, roads and transportation. He thinks defense spending should remain the largest expenditure in our national budget. Left wingers is a polite word (which you chose thinking to placate me, and others) but I consider myself much more than that: righteous, egalitarian, populist, socialist, big government (but one which does as it is told by the electing voters, not the corporate masters). Etc.

So no, he and I are not on the same side. He is a rich opponent. I am just as funny, good looking, well educated (better likely) and deserving of his millions, but for the “break” he had. That kind of accident should not place him so securely and so far OVER me and my “ilk”. But then that is the shape of class warfare, whether against aristocrats like the Nazi-weapons-rich-Bush babies, or lotto winners like Grammer.  It is all economic. There is no other sustenance in this lifetime. There is no other lifetime. Children are hungry. People die. Our children, in fact, are dying in corporatist wars whose goals we don’t even know.

It is not ‘okay’ that he is opposing me.

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By Benjamin Tasker, April 21, 2010 at 5:48 pm Link to this comment

I tend to find myself on the left-side of arguments
more often than not, but…

Was anything he said really that wrong? How many
liberals are “pro-bureacracy” “pro-taxes” “pro-
government bailouts”? Not me. Not many.

One of these days people have to stop and realize
that we’re all on the same team. Many problems with
the “government” that right-wingers tend to point out
are often result of corporatist lobbying and special
interest money. Likewise, the problems with
“capitalism” that many left-wingers point out are
more often that not the result of corporatist
exploitation and greed.

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By AdaminOregon, April 21, 2010 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment
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Doesn’t Kelsey know if we followed his conservative ways he would still be in jail for all the coke he snorted?

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment

@ Dave Thomas,April 20 at9:06pm

“The only people who have ever wanted socialism are those that can’t cut it on their own, and they self-identify.”

Dave, I hope you have great, young friends, lotsa loving children, millions of dollars and a household staff, because growing old in America, without affordable healthcare, and with increasing infirmity, decreasing money, dead friends, worsening pain, failing memory, execrable judgment, and no money in the bank is impossible to “cut” on your own. But I guess working behind the camera for Wendy’s pays pretty well, huh, Mr Capitalist?

Greasy, sociopathic, avaricious, deluded, value-less, mentally damaged individualists also self-identify.

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By augustus, April 21, 2010 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment
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Right. This coming from an alcoholic, drug addicted, parole violator, accused of statutory rape of a 15 year old, sex tapes, divorces, lawsuits etc.
http://www.cosmicbaseball.com/grammer9.html
America’s latest moral/family values standard hero, joins the ranks of other role models, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly et.al. Is this a great country or what.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment

@ Terradea,Apr 19 at 6:36 pm #

Where did you get the silly notion that Kelsie and Bennie were smart? I don’t get it…. I never thought that about either of them.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

It really takes a great deal of public Khoot-spa and massive, pendulous Ko-honies for Mr Grammer, who made his millions in an edgy comedy series about metrosexual brothers, to criticize (or even to mention) “grown-man tickle fights”. At least with a straight face. Which is just one among his many (faces).

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By Joseph, April 21, 2010 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment
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Drugs and hookers run out, Grammer?

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By RubberPimple, April 21, 2010 at 7:21 am Link to this comment
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Anyone or anything that boast of having all the “right” answers almost certainly
does not. Anyone that accepts such claims at face value is a bona fide fool.

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By Ives, April 21, 2010 at 7:14 am Link to this comment

To Dave Thomas:

Kelsey Grammar is free to say and believe whatever he wants. No government hand is preventing him from doing so. He has also gotten rich working in the very city you say punishes people with his views. In fact, his Hollywood success is what has made it possible for him to obtain such a big platform to air those views. 

Why don’t you read about Joe McCarthy and his hearings before you go off half-cocked accusing people of McCarthyism. McCarthy ruined lives. He was ruthless. The full weight of the federal government was brought to bear on the individuals accused of having “communist sympathies.” One fact you might not be aware of is that the patron saint of the Right, Ronald Reagan, was one of the ratf*ckers who testified at McCarthy’s hearings about all the “communists” in Hollywood. Here’s the link

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6458

Enough playing the victim.

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By Chuck, April 21, 2010 at 2:55 am Link to this comment
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I watched all their youtube videos and they’re mostly videos complaining about liberals and Republican infomercials. Even when I used to be a Republican this would get real boring after awhile.

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By Dave Thomas, April 20, 2010 at 5:08 pm Link to this comment

I guess Ives doesn’t realize that in Hollywood, where I live and work, there is no freedom of speech for non-liberal ideas if you want to work and aren’t huge like Kelsey and Voight. Just like I said earlier-reverse McCarthyism.

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By Dave Thomas, April 20, 2010 at 5:06 pm Link to this comment

The only people who have ever wanted socialism are those that can’t cut it on their own, and they self-identify.

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By Wolfenstein, April 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment
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GREED and AVARICE masquerading as Patriotism…..... That’s what’s going on.

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By ohiolibgal, April 20, 2010 at 1:53 pm Link to this comment

This is troubling. Intelligent well spoken people who are so terribly misguided. Grammer, Voight, Stossel. I just don’t see how any rational smart person could come to such wrong conclusions.

They’re upset about creeping socialism, I think more of us are upset because in reality back on earth capitalism has run amok and we want more socialism.

Come on Kelsey, use your brain!

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By Ives, April 20, 2010 at 1:49 pm Link to this comment

To Dave Thomas….

When Kelsey Grammar gets hauled before a government committee modeled after the McCarthy’s Investigative Committee, is accused of subversion, intent to overthrow the government, and can only escape blacklisting and a ruined career by naming fellow conservatives as subversives, then you may talk about McCarthyism.

This poor persecuted puppy is involved in starting up a new conservative TV network for God’s sake. Wow…aren’t his rights being trampled on!

Conservatives love to play the victim. Our poor besieged warriors of decency, family and country.

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By honu, April 20, 2010 at 8:37 am Link to this comment
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Grammer, you said at the end, ‘that’s all I have in me’...allow me to add you’re also full of sh-t.  I wonder what exactly it is that pulls intelligent people to the right?  Is there anything in the present discourse that demonstrates any thoughtful, cogent and sober perspective coming from the right?  So Obama ballooned the deficit…where were the fiscally responsible voices for the 6 years Bush was in office blowing 12B/month for a war started under false pretenses and most likely illegal? Don’t tell me about higher taxes Grammer…..under Obama, taxes went down for over 95% of Americans.  So what’s your gripe again?  left handed scissors? uh huh..just as I thought…you’re full of sh-t.

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By Dave Thomas, April 20, 2010 at 7:46 am Link to this comment
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Thanks for speaking your mind Kelsey. It’s pretty obvious you’ll be demonized by liberals now. Ooops, it’s already happening. Don’t you know you can’t differ in opinion from the liberal line one iota if you ever want to work in this town again!

Reverse McCarthyism?

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By reynolds, April 19, 2010 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment

...sitcoms, sitcom actors….

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By Terradea, April 19, 2010 at 2:36 pm Link to this comment
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Grammer, I honestly thought you were a thinker. What is it about guys like you and Ben Stein that makes you think that you can be smart merely by telling people, over and over again, that you ARE smart?  And why, after all your effort, would you and Ben Stein undermine that wide-spread misperception by coming out as a conservative?

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