Enough! As bad as w & dick were, as bad as o is, this woman
would even make ‘1984’ seem a welcome relief if she became
president and after all I am very irritated by people using lies,
fear, and icons to ‘juice’ the 75ers to a hopeful disneyland
world IF only just this woman would be made president.

glenn beck is more of a threat to this country than all or any
of what terrorists are really out there in the ghost ‘war on
terror’ and we have lost more than enough of our liberties
because of people like beck and it most definitely can get
worse because of beck’s boy friend rupert murdock just keeps
subverting the msm with HIS idea of what americans should
and need to see and believe.

And to think that so many people in this country think they
get all the information they WANT by watching crap like this is
most discouraging and is like watching the amusement of these
totally irresponsible people cheering their own demise as
infotainment.

Boring Lectures from Democrats
Since the 2008 election, the conservatives have managed to shift much of the blame for the sorry state of our affairs to the Democrats. This shows the GOP expertise in media marketing, information control and propaganda. The GOP has seized the high ground on every important election issue since the War of Independence. They post lies daily to tie the opposition into knots. Liberal outlets such as Media Matters and MSNBC are forced to go on the defensive making sounds as distressed school marms in front of an unruly class. If the public wanted to understand the workings of economics and history, they would listen to NPR. As Democrats appear to be talking from college lecture notes, they prepare for another 40 years in the political wilderness.

Some would say that one automatically leads to the other—-only without the Drug War, maybe.

Truthdigger3,

I wouldn’t confuse these people with Libertarians.  For the life of me I cannot discern any coherent philosophy or policy eminating from Palin.  She just has a set of phrases which she repeats endlessly but doesn’t seem to understand.  The current “Conservative” view seems to be dedicated to keeping the flow of money from the poor and middle class to the very very rich going strong for as long as possible.  True, when they’re out of money and credit the next place to pillage will be commonwealth—things owned by people collectively like parks, toll roads etc.  But it’s nothing to do with Libertarianism ... just greed.

Gmonst wrote:
“If a way could be found to bridge the ideological gap”
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There is no way that ideological gap can be bridged.
The libertarians are against everthing the liberals stand for.
The libertarians under the guise of “getting the government off our back”, want corporate America to run amock free from any regulations and taxation,  and free to ruin the environment and exploit and abuse the working class who will have no recourse against corporate greed.
The libertarians under the guise of wanting a small government want to do away with all social programs and safety net programs like unemployment insurance, Social Security and Medicare etc.. etc.. and want to privatise everthing from national parks , education, toll roads and bridges and even prisons etc etc ..
Do you get the picture?? How do you bridge such gap?

“Trust no one.”

That is when the society is in the final fifth stage of collapse. (Think “The Road.”) As Dimitry Orlov states in his 5 levels at http://www.cluborlov.com and such a collapse would be devastating.

Don’t be confused, what will collapse won’t be the corporate part but the democratic-republican part to be replaced by the fascist part waiting in the wings. Waiting for their plan to reach fruition and the end of the Republic and all of its regulatory and democratic messiness will be gone and distrusted. I think that they will come in to save us at stage #3. If they fail then we will be gone as a coherent nation. Not something they want or we should want. If we fall that will be far worse than you might think.

We are in the savage land USA and they want to make it worse and permanent. Where only the ones with money & power survive like our pal Mundt here. The kind of civilized savagery that psychopaths yearn for. But then they are the architects of this mindset. Just look at Ayn Rand and who she saw as the living embodiment of her ethos & perfect human was in a psychopathic killer!

Here’s a small sampling from Google:

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Romancing the Stone-Cold Killer
By the appraisal of any normal mind, there can be little doubt that William Edward Hickman was a vicious psychopath of the worst order. That Ayn Rand saw ...
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# Amazon.com: The Psychopath’s Bible: For the Extreme Individual ...
Only rarely, such as in Zen; in Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism; ... Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us ...
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# Damn Interesting • The Unburdened Mind
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Mar 12, 2009 ... Now radical conservatives are advocating the Ayn Rand, or John Galt, approach: If ... Rand was a psychopath and her followers even more so. ...
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# The Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights: “The Corporation ...
“If that is not the soul of a psychopath,” Dr. Bernstein asks, “what is?” ### ### ###. Dr. Andrew Bernstein, a senior writer for the Ayn Rand Institute, ...
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# Souless Psychopaths
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Nov 2, 2009 ... Ayn Rand is one of them which is why she extolled the characteristics of psychopaths as her view of a superior person. ...
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# Ayn Rand: Discredited By Greenspan « Mike Cane 2008
Oct 23, 2008 ... Ayn Rand was a self-alienated drug-addicted psychopath. To her, people should act like robotic and inevitable logical syllogisms. ...
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Not really much to the interview.  I think they are both deluded as to how big of a portion of the American people’s views they are really representing.  They seem to think they represent the majority when they do not.  Most of the pissed off people out there are pissed off from the left.  The libertarian group that Palin represents are not a very large part of the population. 

However, I think it is telling that citizens on both ends of the political spectrum are disillusioned and feel government no longer represents them.  If a way could be found to bridge the ideological gap and bring all those who feel something has gone off the tracks in our democracy, real change might happen.  Its really about the uber wealthy controlling the strings to everyone’s detriment.

Uhhh…excuse me, but in case you haven’t noticed, we’ve already achieved
the barbarism thing.  You might want to check the news.  I say get it over
with—the total collapse of this corporatocracy—so we can start over. 
Palin/Beck in ‘12—-Go Sarah!!

FOX Conservative Values:  Duck Hunting?  Teaching everyone to be afraid of God,
Satan, Bin Laden?  How about zero regulation over big business?  How about
making gay marriage illegal?  Voting for Beck/Palin basically equals going back to
barbarism.

Personally, I’d rather see a monkey eat a banana on Wild Kingdom than watch (or vote for) either Beck or Palin - at least it would not be totally scripted and rehearsed.
  Canada, with its supposed long waiting lines for health care, is looking more and more appealing all the time.  A Palin-Beck ticket would be the clincher.
  I still say that Beck, with his sniffling Xmas Story look-alike antics is “gonna shoot his eye out, kid”.

I think we are looking at the next President and Vice-President of the
United States right here in this video folks.  I’ll sure vote for the
Palin/Beck ticket in 2012.  Might as well get this over with.

The thought of these two hustlers and pretenders, are having best seller books and millions of admirers, is frightening and foreboding especially after Obama turned out to be just a bullshit artist and another fraud and he reneged on all of his promises.

Ah Mundt ... if that was brilliance for Fox viewers surely they are mostly too senile to vote.  You really need better standards.  Talk to the next teenager you see in a fast food joint, you’ll get more substance.

I’m glad she didn’t lose you by discussing any of those pesky issues that require an understanding of ... well anything really.

Actually, I like the bit where Beck says “People say about us ‘you just don’t get it’!”.  No, Glenn, I think people know that you get it.  You clearly get the idea that there are a lot of really stupid people that you can engage with your BS.  It’s good for ratings among the hard of thinking.

For Sarah, the jury remains out.  It is hard to imagine that she is really as dumb as she comes across ... if not, though, it’s a hell of an act.

Wanted:  Magic glasses to help the poor undereducated naive American hordes see through Sarah Palin, come 2010.  “Liberty”  (so obviously missingthe “equality,fraternity"content) “Hope” 
“Change”  “An Honorable Man”  “Big Government taking over” “anti-incumbents” “voice of the people”
“solutions that are so clear to us” “common sense solutions” “American Values!” “Patriotism.”

Obama and the Democrats have only a few more weeks to decide what voices of what people they are going to listen to because, for sure, everyone is going to be shouting at them! “Stop the Wars!”  “Stop the Bailouts.”  “Regulate the Banks”  “Jobs!”  “Clean up Pollution!”  “Better Health Care for All!”  “Education” “homeless!”  “mortages!” 

Or “You need our campaign contributions”  “business as usual”  “save us because we are too big to fail”! “We’ll take you down with us!”  “Business as usual”  “Don’t rock the boat!” “Without war the economy will tank!” “No regulations!” “You have to be tough on terrorism!”  “Get them before they get us!” “War is inevitable.”

Palin/Beck, 1/13/10 might have been the best hour in TV history. Sarah Palin was brilliant, self-assured, gorgeous, and absolutely adorable. FOX ratings must be up in the stratosphere. Her audience is huge & hungry.