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Hillary’s Downward Spiral

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Posted on Apr 20, 2007
Hillary Clinton

The folks at Gallup have noticed a unique trend in the race for the White House: Hillary Clinton’s numbers have been heading steadily down. In fact, no other candidate, whether Republican or Democrat, shows as clear and consistent a trajectory. Time for a May surprise?

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By Rabbit, April 25, 2007 at 3:38 pm #
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Hey, she’s AIPAC and Rupert Murdoch approved. What’s not to like?
  Rabbit

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By holymackerel, April 23, 2007 at 12:52 pm #
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To WANGMO….

What a ‘Hillary’ kool-aid drinker you are…

You mentioned her ‘positive’ trips abroad as First Lady…but no mention that one of thier last trips, the one to China, had the largest ENTOURAGE of tag-alongs than any THREE PRESIDENTS COMBINED! And add to that fact, the fact that they REFUSED to discuss or divulge the cost of that trip to the taxpaying citizens who fund them. WOW, you are in never-never land my friend!

I am no Bush fan, yet my small business does appreciate the reduce capitol gains tax from 35% in the Cliton regime to 15% today. Maybe you’re not aware.

My favorite “Hillary’s slap in the citizens’ face” moment was when the Rose Law Firm records just simply “appeared” on the nightstand, in the President of The United States bedroom, with no knowledge of “how they got there.”!

Probably the most secured and watched place in the world (next to Fort Knox gold cache) could be breached by a stranger (she had no idea how they got there! she didn’t question the staff???), without any video or recorded entry or exit? What a ridiculous lie. But she knows that the majority of people are apathetic! She counts on it! They bank on it! They believe in thier whole beings that they are better and smarter than any of us.

She/they ain’t!

g. petricca / holymackerel

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By Matt, April 23, 2007 at 5:54 am #
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Maybe if the news would talk about the candidates’ positions on the issues rather than their popularity, we’d be able to call what we do democracy.

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By DennisD, April 22, 2007 at 7:38 pm #
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Hillary is “big business”. Anyone that thinks otherwise is pissing up a rope. Knowing where all the toilets are in the White House is her only qualification to be president.  Playing the two party game gets the same two party result for the average voter. Nothing or less than nothing. Vote third party or don’t bother. Start thinking outside the beltway.

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By mike shades, April 22, 2007 at 4:19 pm #

al gore will announce in the wake of live earth, scheduled for 7-7-07.

that’s not inside information, just a hunch. see http://www.liveearth.org

in terms of some of the other comments here: forget the third party candidate, it ain’t happening this year; forget kucinich, he’s too weird and does not have broad appeal for a number of reasons; and let’s not get too excited about AIPAC’s role: it’s likely they will support every candidate, ‘cause that’s what they do (and let’s not get too excited about that conspiracy theory; there are a huge number of sources of dirty money in american politics, including gifts from Israelis, Arabs, White Supremacists, Polluting Capitalists, Private Security Firms, Defense Contractors, etc etc etc).

gore is the best candidate because: (1) he’s a half-way decent person; (2) he understands the world ecological crisis; (3) he is not a war-monger; (4) he seems to value telling the truth; (5) he can raise money; (6) he’s popular enough to withstand the republican onslaught; (7) he’s earned it; (8) he hasn’t sold his soul as recently as Hillary (see: Authorization for Use of Military Force), Obama (see: support for Mexican Wall), or Edwards (see: Kerry-Edwards’ concession prior to Ohio electoral investigations); and (9) most importantly, Al can win.

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By NENE, April 22, 2007 at 2:37 pm #
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Hillary’s downward spirol is simply the result of no media coverage compared to the coverage other candidates are getting.  Instead the media gives 15+ minutes of uninterrupted airtime to other candidates, then shows a picture of Senator Clinton speaking but doesn’t let you actually hear her speech.  Instead we get a Conservative Talking-Head pundit describing her speech in a spin-twisted version that denigrates her. I watched the entire Obama speech, then when it was Sen. Clinton’s turn just the video of her talking without sound, split screen with commentator saying in 30 seconds why “Hillary’s speech” sucked.  The sexism is laughable.  No one calls any of the other candidates by the familiarity and disrespect of their first names except “Hillary.”  It’s so obvious that the corporate owners of the media have no intention of letting the public hear the real full picture of Sen. Clinton’s policies. We’ll only get talking head spin/denigration.  It’s also fascinating to note that while she is giving many important speeches all over the place, none are broadcast.  The programmers think endless trash about a 37 year old stripper’s drug death in the Bahamas is more meaningful to cover than the Iraq war and Presidential candidates speeches that reveal their policies that can help our country recover from the nightmare that is the Republican Adminstration.

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By wangmo, April 22, 2007 at 2:22 pm #
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If anyone thinks any President can fix the hellish mess Bush has made of this country, and transform the tragedy Bush made of Iraq, and repair our national reputation that Bush has ruined, and fix the disastrous black hole of debt in which the Republican administration has enslaved us for generations to come, other than the globally respected, VERY knowledgeable and capable President Hillary Clinton, is simply ill-informed and, more likely, is a repeated victim of the ongoing brainwashing by the Sam Fox/Scaife/Neocon thinktank–financed campaign to character-assassinate the Clintons, carried out by the very cooperative media outlets owned by the likes of ultra-conservative Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes who won’t allow you to hear the brilliant heartfelt political leadership speeches of Senator Hillary Clinton—because, the god of Corporate Malfeasance shudders and quakes at the thought of this brilliant, highly experienced, dedicated public servant taking office.

The Corporate Beastie Boys reason that if we have President Hillary Clinton in the White House, policies will swiftly reverse that will weaken the corporate takeover of American politics, immediately put a stop to the Corporate Neocon agenda to destroy America’s two party system, roll back the corporate abuses of the environment, roll back the…oh the list of abuses of power and the reams of evidence of crimes against humanity is endless, and President Hillary Clinton has the wherewithal to wield the power to set things right for America, repair America’s relationship to the world, and to begin engaging her realistic policies to handle the problems of terrorism in the world and at home, and to do whatever can be done to reverse the utter hellish devastation of Iraq that bloodies the hands of every American for allowing this illegal occupation to continue this long when we should have long before now impeached the liars and war-profiteers who engineered this utterly wicked fiasco that killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and many Americans, and will jeopardize the safety of Americans worldwide for generations to come because of BushCo’s ineptitude, unbelievable ignorance and incompetence in handling foreign affairs—which happens to be the subject President Hillary Clinton understands quite well, since she accompanied her husband to over 140 countries where the red carpet and standing ovations greeted them because they affected tremendously beneficial policies with other nations that gained cooperation and respect, policies that, if you noticed, kept our nation in a state of peace and prosperity while getting us out of debt and making every effort to evolve our infrastructure to strengthen the health of our Commonwealth—in spite of ALSO having to deal with the endless attacks of the psychopathic freakshow character-assassination bullshit witchhunt campaigns headed by Newt and Starr and Rush, and all their creepy pasty-faced subhuman power-tripping creeps who slyly took over the Republican party by founding the Neocon funded thinktanks that financed this “steal the election” coup by neofascists.  Yep.  Put Hillary in, or the sly creeps can keep their scam going to finish the job they started on destroying America.
Senator Hillary Clinton SURVIVED those truly evil times with her marriage in tact. She is a superlative human being.  We need someone with her strength, integrity, and vast experience and knowledge to reverse the huge problems we now face.
We need President Hillary Rodham Clinton.  We need her 181 I.Q. Rhode Scholar husband at her side who still loves her, respects her, and believes in her ability to make us a great president, and whose Global Initiatives programs continues to make the world a better place in spite of neocon psychosis trying to destroy it all for profit to their Oil Baron/War-profiteering crony club.  GO HILL & BILL!!!!

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By Margaret Currey, April 22, 2007 at 1:40 pm #
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Maybe the only one left is Gore/Edwards after all Gore really won the election it was Fla. that was corrupt, of course in the case of Kerry it was Ohio that threw salt in the wound.

Madder than a wet hen

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By Lee, April 22, 2007 at 12:53 pm #
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GOOD. Put Kucinich in her place. Forget Barak and flush McCain for his own good.

Notice how Kucinich was not mentioned. Must keep that guy under a blanket no matter what. People might find out he’s the only one who’s been against the war from the beginning and the only one who represents the American middle class.

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By cann4ing, April 22, 2007 at 12:03 pm #

So PatrickHenry likes Hillary’s sham “universal healthcare” proposal that amounts to subsidies for the health insurance industry—an industry that already captures 31% of American health care costs where consumer money vanishes into stock options, advertising, lobbying and into the pockets of the healthcare insurer CEOs.  The only real “reform”—one that would put this nation in line with every other industrialized nation—is the Conyers-Kucinich single payer system that would eliminate for-profit insurance.

The Clintons betrayed America’s working and middle classes when they rammed through the Reagan/Bush/Thatcher neoliberal agenda embodied in NAFTA and the WT), devices which permitted the corporate elite to outsource America’s manufacturing base in search of cheap foreign labor, as an increasingly Wal-Mart-ized American labor force joined the race to the bottom.

If the essence of the Democratic party is its broad base within America’s working and middle class, there is only one candidate who deserves to be called a Democrat.  His name is Dennis Kucinich.

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By JEP, April 22, 2007 at 9:30 am #

This might explain why the Huffington Enquirer and Maureen Dowd turned their oft-noble pens into tools of partisan political tabloid trash, when they obsessed together, like bottle-weilding barflies blathering cattily, about Edwards’ high-dollar haircuts?

Have we seen the beginning of a “mean girls for Hillary” campaign strategy?

And even more regretfuyl, do we have a new sister-hood of talking-point parrots, and have they learned from Rove and Rush how to gang up on their latest designated adversary, in transparently simultaneous co-articulation of the same dull complaint?

I thought both these ladies were above the subterfuge of deceptive and partisan intentional mis-direction. Could I be wrong?

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By PatrickHenry, April 22, 2007 at 8:07 am #

I liked her position on universal healthcare and admire the attempt she made getting it past pharma-lobby and insurance lobby advertising, as their profits were on the line.

However, Hillary’s caving in to AIPAC, Carlyle Group and other defense companies and media have tipped the scales against them with my vote.

New York voters are the only ones who can replace Hillary…..unless the rest of American can get behind term limits in all 50 states for the senate and congress.

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By Larry Anklam, April 22, 2007 at 6:44 am #
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There are only three candidates who are not owned by the Zionists and the only three I would vote for. Ron Paul (Rep.), Dennis Kucinich (Dem.), and Ralph Nader (Ind.). Too bad the controlled media will not give them any publicity.

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By Spinoza, April 22, 2007 at 5:43 am #
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I Just looked at that Populist Party Web Site and I find it frighting.  Especially Frightening is the promotion of a film called from “Freedom to Fascism” which is a revamping of the old 1930’s line of a Jewish Communist Banker Conspiracy very popular in neo-Nazi circles in the 40’s and 50’s (Look up American Mercury Mag from the 50’s if you don’t believe me). 

This site is mostly a collection of libertarian and neo Fascist ideology as far as I can see disguised as left ideology.  The original Populist Party was the name of the Peoples Party which had a left economic agenda. This so called “Peoples” Party has a right wing agenda indistinguishable from the Libertarian Party.  They only have an anti-democracy platform. They don’t believe in the rule of the people and one person, one vote.  They are basically a new variant of an anti-working class fascist party.  In fact in my brief perusal of the site I saw nothing about the poor and how to end the shameful persistence of horrendous slums in this country. This is not a Peoples Party!

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By Spinoza, April 22, 2007 at 5:37 am #
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I Just looked at that Populist Party Web Site and I find it frighting.  Especially Frightening is the promotion of a film called from “Freedom to Fascism” which is a revamping of the old 1930’s line of a Jewish Communist Banker Conspiracy very popular in neo-Nazi circles in the 40’s and 50’s (Look up American Mercury Mag from the 50’s if you don’t believe me). 

This site is mostly a collection of libertarian and neo Fascist ideology as far as I can see disguised as left ideology.  The original Populist Party was the name of the Peoples Party which had a left economic agenda. This so called “Peoples” Party has a right wing agenda indistinguishable from the Libertarian Party.  They only have a anti-democracy platform. They don’t believe in the rule of the people and one person, one vote.  They are basically a new variant of an anti-working class fascist party.  In fact in my brief perusal of the site I saw nothing about the poor and how to end the shameful persistence of horrendous slums in this country.

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By Mad As Hell, April 22, 2007 at 5:21 am #
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You know, a few years ago there was a neo-nazi group calling themselves “The Populist Party”, hijacking the name of the agrarian movement of the late 1800’s.

Since your link doesn’t work, I’m forced to assume that this is tne same group and all the virus controls are blocking it.

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By M Currey, April 21, 2007 at 10:40 pm #
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I don’t listen to the polls I listen to Ms Clinton and she is smart, she is the best person to be president, the country just does not a woman there, to say that Bill will not make a good First Man is crazy, he has the personality to be able to just be the husband and ocassionally to give advice, I am sure that he will be much better than Carl Rove, Gonzales, Bush, Chaney and Rice.

Madder than a wet hen, from the state of Washington city of Vancouver

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By Shannon Tolson, April 21, 2007 at 7:28 pm #
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OK—her numbers are down.  Did anyone creating the poll think to ask WHY?  Is it her position on Israel?  Does she not bake enough cookies?  The numbers are meaningless without context, without reasons!

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By JEP, April 21, 2007 at 5:55 pm #
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“The Mean Girls Club for Hillary” now includes both Arriana and Maureen, they even look like sisters…

The Huffington Enquirer took a tabloid tack recently against Edwards, chatting cattily about his campaign paying hairdressers for high-dollar haircuts, totally disregarding the benefit of those poor hairdressers who will be able to pay rent a little easier because of that campaign money. 

And now today, in the NYTimes, Dowd ignores these downward-spiralling numbers to suggest that Edwards will be blown out of the poltiical water by some populist wave.

Team Hillary is already using desperation tactics, and it is so early in the game.  Maybe someone finally figured out that money alone won’t win the early primary states.

Which might just be the real reason for all this sudden “caucus envy” that the big states have displayed.

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By John Lowell, April 21, 2007 at 12:10 pm #
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Great folks these Democratic candidates. Champion of the working class, John Edwards, has a 28,000 square foot home, gets $400 haircuts and tries to rationalize it all publically by claiming that the poor abroad will see his financial success as indicative of the kind of opportunity available to mill workers sons in America! And you thought preacher, Ted Haggard, was oily.

Then there’s downward spiralling - could we be more grateful - Hillary Clinton, the wymins’ movement’s answer to Leonid Breshnev. One might fairly be excused the feeling upon observing her countenance that she’s really Walter Ulbricht in drag.

And the Republican, John “Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb-Iran” McCain. Or Rudy “Questa O Quella” Giuliani. I mean, really, where do they get these candidates?

And please don’t tell me that I’m not entitled to gripe because I haven’t voted since 1992. You’re the one that needs the lecture. grin

John Lowell

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By Hank Van den Berg, April 21, 2007 at 12:01 pm #
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Be very careful about the Gallup organization!  I have dealt with the gallup organization here in Nebraska, where they are based.  Their management demonstrates a very clear conservative, pro-business, and Christian bias.  They even have a Faith Division that offers business consultancy services and customer satisfaction surveys to churches!  More directly, I have had to respond annually to surveys designed by Gallup for the administration of my university intended to gather information on faculty morale and evaluation of the their superiors.  There is no doubt in my mind that the Gallup organization knows very well how to design questions that bring out a response sought by the user of the survey.  Therefore, I would look at these survey results with a grain of salt and an expectation of anti-Democratic bias.

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By pam culpepper, April 21, 2007 at 10:39 am #
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It is true, if all the networks decide who their fav is , you are out Hillary, how sad that the GOP machine just keeps on going while our jobs and healthcare are. GONE I feel sorry that we stupid Americans buy at Walmart and also recieve Walmart wages. We are just happy happy with our situation.America has become a sorry place to live.The same one hundred sixty thousand keep fighing in Iraq for the three hundred million of us. Wrong picture.

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By Hammo, April 21, 2007 at 9:35 am #

Anyone who can take the pulse of middle America knows that people do not want members of the Bill and Hillary Clinton couple to be president again. Bill as “first man” in the White House?

Hillary herself is not an attractive candidate to many people of all kinds of political and social viewpoints.

Obama, though he seems to have many positive traits, is also probably not a candidate who can win a national election.

If the Dems can’t put forward a decent candidate (like former Army Gen. Wes Clark), maybe third-party or independent candidates should step forward. Take a look at:

“A much-needed new path for 2008: Time for independent and third-party candidates to emerge, transcend and unite?”

PopulistAmerica.com  
Populist Party of America
March 5, 2007

http://www.populistamerica.com/a_much_needed_new_pa th_for_2008

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By James Yell, April 21, 2007 at 8:07 am #
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I am not surprised that her polls are down. Her switch to “Bush Lite” has probably caused a lot of us to question if she like McCain are just too ambitious to be President. The feeling is they have both moved away from reality in regards to Iraq.

The people have realized that they have been duped and are not eager to give the politicians a free pass on this issue.

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By Tom Doff, April 21, 2007 at 5:19 am #
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I can’t wait to hear McCain sing;

‘Oh, what a beautiful downing,
Oh, what a beautiful day.
Hillary’s going in the toilet,
And that’s just where she should stay’

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By Joe R., April 21, 2007 at 4:13 am #

This may be a blessing in disguise.  One dynasty at a time please.

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By John F. Butterfield, April 21, 2007 at 2:44 am #

Galloping Gallup Polls, Batman!

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By boggs, April 20, 2007 at 10:11 pm #

Everyone just be patient and the Media will soon let us know who we can have for our nominee. They will manage to shred, destroy or self destruct all the ones who might want to give the working classes a break.

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By shz, April 20, 2007 at 10:06 pm #
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I’m with Ernest Canning
.....DENNIS KUCINICH….........
The one true representative of America’s working and middle classes.

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By Disgrruntled, April 20, 2007 at 9:59 pm #
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Obama is cute but I still don’t know what he intends to do about anything except bring us all together to sing Kumbaya. Edwards has, at least, put forth some policies.

Hillary is triangulating. I hate triangulating! She gives me the impression that she is willing to pay ANY price to become president including the lives of tens of thousands more war victims.

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By cann4ing, April 20, 2007 at 8:18 pm #

Typical useless corporate media coverage.  Talk about poll numbers.  Do not mention one word about where the candidates stand on any issue that matters to the American electorate.  Mention the so-called “leading Democratic candidates”—Obama, Edwards, Clinton—ignore the one true representative of America’s working and middle classes—Dennis Kucinich. Ho hum!

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By QuyTran, April 20, 2007 at 6:59 pm #

She’s trying to beg for more votes by visiting Rutgers’ women basketball teams and denounced Mr. Imus. How brave is she ?

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By QuyTran, April 20, 2007 at 6:56 pm #

Who cares ?

Hey, wake up Al Gore !

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