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Helen Thomas Finds Obama ‘Reprehensible’

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Posted on Oct 13, 2010
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It’s been a couple months since former White House press stalwart Helen Thomas, now 90, resigned after causing controversy with her remarks about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but it seems she hasn’t forgiven President Obama for his role in that drama. In the clip posted below, Thomas makes no bones about her feelings on the matter in an interview with Ohio’s WMRN-AM reporter Scott Spears.  —KA

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By christian96, October 18, 2010 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment

Ardee—-“A great laugh though?”  Looks like you are
in Schopenhauer’s 1st stage: (1) Ridicule.

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By ardee, October 18, 2010 at 2:10 pm Link to this comment

christian96, October 17 at 11:16 pm

Most here will not recognize the subtlety of this post. Nor will any note that it is done in typical The Onion format, absurdity couched as truth.

A great laugh though.

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By john crandell, October 17, 2010 at 8:29 pm Link to this comment

christian96: gee, looks like you’ve a whole new career ahead of you.

you’re THE world’s specialist, apparently.

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By christian96, October 17, 2010 at 7:16 pm Link to this comment

John Crandell—-In charge of what? 

Study: Gay Parents More Likely to Have Gay KidsUpdated: 4 hours 49 minutes ago

AOL News (Oct. 17)—Walter Schumm knows what he’s about to do is unpopular: publish a study arguing that gay parents are more likely to raise gay children than straight parents. But the Kansas State University family studies professor has a detailed analysis that past almost aggressively ideological researchers never had. 


Schumm began investigating the second premise. “I just want to know the truth about something,” he tells AOL News.

Schumm tells AOL News that he agreed to testify as one of the state’s witnesses only if his evidence was not “slanted” for or against gay rights.

But also in his testimony was an inkling of the robust research Schumm has just completed. His study on sexual orientation, out next month, says that gay and lesbian parents are far more likely to have children who become gay. “I’m trying to prove that it’s not 100 percent genetic,” Schumm tells AOL News.


This is important because sometimes Schumm would come across a passage of children of gay parents who said they were “adamant about not declaring their sexual orientation at all.” These people would be labeled straight, even though the passage’s implication was that they were gay.

Schumm concluded that children of lesbian parents identified themselves as gay 31 percent of the time; children of gay men had gay children 19 percent of the time, and children of a lesbian mother and gay father had at least one gay child 25 percent of the time.

Furthermore, when the study restricted the results so that they included only children in their 20s—presumably after they’d been able to work out any adolescent confusion or experimentation—58 percent of the children of lesbians called themselves gay, and 33 percent of the children of gay men called themselves gay. (About 5 to 10 percent of the children of straight parents call themselves gay, Schumm says.)

Finally, Schumm looked at the existing academic studies, the ones used to pillory Cameron’s work. In all there are 26 such studies. Schumm ran the numbers from them and concluded that, surprisingly, 20 percent of the kids of gay parents were gay themselves. When children only 17 or older were included in the analysis, 28 percent were gay.

 

Schumm says he guarded against that by seeking out so many different works. And across all his data—the 10 books he consulted, the anthropological study, the scientific articles—he noticed how lesbians begat more lesbians. In Schumm’s study, he quotes from the extant literature the stories of young women, describing how being gay was never frowned upon in their household, and so that “option” was available to them. That said, Schumm also finds evidence of gay mothers pushing their daughters, upset over a relationship with a man, to “try out women.”

Sponsored LinksBut couldn’t gay men also tell their sons this? Yes, but Schumm tells AOL News that most gay men have at some point been with a woman, so they understand why their sons might date them. Whereas the literature shows some lesbians “have a hatred of men that’s intense,” Schumm says.

Schumm says it shouldn’t have taken until 2010 to do the meta-analysis. Too often his colleagues impose “liberal or progressive political interpretations” on their studies, which inhibit further inquiry. “It’s kind of sad,” he tells AOL News.

As if expecting a political backlash himself, Schumm concludes his study with a quote from philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer. “All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

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By john crandell, October 17, 2010 at 5:36 pm Link to this comment

So, christian96: just what would YOU do, if YOU were in charge?

I mean, REALLY in charge.

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By christian96, October 17, 2010 at 5:28 pm Link to this comment

Ardee—-More research for you.  Appears homosexual
parents are reprehensible.

Children with same-sex parents prone to suicide, study reveals ...
Feb 19, 2010 ... Adoptive families. Likewise, addressing the issue of homosexual .... When you ask a child if they want homo’s to raise them of course they ...

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By christian96, October 17, 2010 at 5:18 pm Link to this comment

Ardee—-I am a scientist.  I rely on studies not
opinions upon which to draw my conclusions.  Seems
as though homosexual families raise homosexual
children according to the following research:

gay parents, gay children, walter schumm, paul cameron, lgbt, sexual orientation, lgbtq sexuality, sexuality

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By moonraven, October 17, 2010 at 4:17 pm Link to this comment

ardee:

There are lots of folks here just jerking off because their moms locked them out of the XXX sites.

Beyond pathetic.

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By ardee, October 17, 2010 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment

christian96, October 17 at 8:25 am Link to this comment

Ardee—-I find you reprehensible!

As you have already professed to not knowing what the heck that word means I cannot possibly be offended by your posting of it. Actually I find that not knowing of what you speak is your usual order of things.

grin

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By ardee, October 17, 2010 at 4:45 am Link to this comment

moonraven, October 16 at 1:40 pm

I suggest you misinterpreted my post, or the intentions of that supposed “christian”.

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By christian96, October 17, 2010 at 4:25 am Link to this comment

Ardee—-I find you reprehensible!

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By moonraven, October 16, 2010 at 9:40 am Link to this comment

ardee,

May I suggest very strongly that the folks who “cross the line” in the naming and denunciation of the elephant in the room are the only folks who should STAY.

Pack your bags.

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By ardee, October 16, 2010 at 4:36 am Link to this comment

christian96, October 14 at 5:13 pm Link to this comment

I find Helen Thomas reprehensible! Reprehensible?
Wow. What a big word.  Wonder what it means?

Not only do you have the vocabulary of a parrot, apparently, but you cannot even claim any reading comprehension skills either..Sad, really, truly sad.

Any who use the word “reprehensible” call Ms. Thomas’ actions such and not herself.

As to my own use of the word,I will paste the citing here, please get a child to read and interpret for you:

“Ironically, I am in Thomas’ corner regarding her factual criticisms of the reprehensible actions of Israel but think she crossed a line and deserved to go. Here’s why:”

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By garth, October 15, 2010 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment

I am not anti-semitic, nor am I a gutter anti-semite.  Right now I feel for the Arabs, the Palestinians in particular.  They have become the ‘Jews’ of Israel.

Ahmadinijad spoke recently in Lebanon to heighten the tension. 

For whatever reason he said those things, I think it is enjoyable that someone is sticking his thumb in Netanyahu’s eye and Obama’s dessert.  We need an all out war.  The war to end all wars.

The US arrested 5 Cubanos for entering the US to check on Cuban revolutionaries.  While, we, the US Justice Department, turned a blind eye to Mossad agents working in the US.  They are enterng private domiciles and checking things out and helping themselves to small items.  Picky, picky, picky.

Or are they cowards?  Like the vandals who happen by.  They seem to have ..............no balls.

American goofs are for the most part lawful, afraid of any government intrusion.  That’s America.  It’s like a river of sludge.

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By moonraven, October 15, 2010 at 10:46 am Link to this comment

mickey:

Sorry, but there is no way I am anti-semitic, as I support the cause of the semitic people called Palestinians 100%!

Jerk it someplace else, willya?

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By garth, October 15, 2010 at 8:49 am Link to this comment

christian96, October 14 at 5:13 pm Link to this comment

I find Helen Thomas reprehensible! Reprehensible?
Wow. What a big word.  Wonder what it means?

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reprehensible: deserving to be censured: highly unacceptable and deserving censure


christian96, I can see your ignorance. It’s one of those words that is used a lot and most people feel as if they know what it means, sort of in the ball park, to them it means something ‘bad’.  I Googled the word to provide a starting definition.

Now, I know you Christians are prone to mis- interpreting the ‘Bibble’ but when you heighten that mockery to a level of ignorance of the English language that is used in common parlance, then the question becomes, Whom do you trust?

The dictionary or your minister?

Try, a little.

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By TheDavidDaoud, October 14, 2010 at 9:21 pm Link to this comment

Mickey, don’t forget me at *By TheDavidDaoud, October 14 at 7:41 am*

I’m anti-semitic too!

Israel OUT of Palestine NOW!
Israel OUT of Palestine NOW!

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By Dennis, October 14, 2010 at 7:23 pm Link to this comment
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I have a better solution-Israel out of this world.

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By PatrickHenry, October 14, 2010 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

I can’t wait for the book then TV miniseries.

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By mickey, October 14, 2010 at 3:28 pm Link to this comment
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moonraven—your opinions are anti-semitic!!!

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By christian96, October 14, 2010 at 1:13 pm Link to this comment

I find Helen Thomas reprehensible! Reprehensible?
Wow. What a big word.  Wonder what it means?

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, October 14, 2010 at 12:22 pm Link to this comment
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I think Helen Thomas is great but that comment of hers was way out of line as Obama said.  Her position on Israel is the same as the Israeli position on Palestinians: “Get the hell out!”  It’s not the solution for either side.

Harry Truman was a disaster with foreign policy - right up there with W.  With a little more planning and with consideration for all of the people involved, the state of Israel could have been established without the 60 years of bloodshed that followed.

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By nomolos, October 14, 2010 at 11:18 am Link to this comment

Members of the corporate media have been bashing Islam with fabrication after
fabrication for months with absolute impunity and yet one person recently said
truths about Israel and he was banished from the airwaves the next day.  Helen
Thomas spoke the truth and she was forced from the WH press corps and lost her
job.

Israel is in breach of UN resolution after UN resolution and yet nothing is done and
they continue to steal land, destroy houses, commit murder, rape women and
slaughter children with the blessing of america.  The Freedom Fighters of Palestine
that resist the cruelties of Israel are branded “terrorists” and people who bring the
truth to america are ostracized.  Ah yes, america the land of hypocrisy.

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By moonraven, October 14, 2010 at 10:45 am Link to this comment

Don,

The comment in regard to Germany is pretty much what the current president of Iran has been saying for quite a few years now.

Yesterday one of the Israeli parliament goons called for his assassination.  I suppose that-s one way to “wipe him off the map”....

Israel OUT of Palestine NOW.

Put those bellicose buttholes in Germany, West Yorkshire or west Texas.  See how long their agressive antics are tolerated.

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By Don Stivers, October 14, 2010 at 9:35 am Link to this comment

The Jews should have been given half of Germany after WWII.  Not Palestine.

And because I may believe what Israel does is wrong does not mean I am anti Semitic.  Far from it.  And because I believe that the 2 wars the U.S. is now engaged in is wrong does not mean that I am anti white person.

If half of what is Germany was now Israel, would the conflict in the middle east be as acrid as it is now?

People say things about the Islamic peoples and no problemo.  No big deal.

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By ardee, October 14, 2010 at 9:08 am Link to this comment

Ironically, I am in Thomas’ corner regarding her factual criticisms of the reprehensible actions of Israel but think she crossed a line and deserved to go. Here’s why:

1. Israel is definitely in violation of international law in its slaughter of Palestinians and its naked attempt to expand its territories at their expense.

2. As a violator of said laws Israel deserves condemnation, sanction and other such penalties.

3. Israel is a nation, and as such, whether its actions are right or wrong, its right to exist should never be questioned, especially not by a reputable journalist with her credentials and history.

4. When speaking about a nation, Israel, and one uses “Jew” instead of Israeli, one brings far, far too many dark places into play and does harm to millions of said Jews , many of whom do not happen to reside in Israel and all of whom are very,very conscious of the history of the last two thousand years of persecution and suffering.

I enjoyed Helen Thomas’ body of work, will miss her now, but think it certainly was time for her to go.

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By SarcastiCanuck, October 14, 2010 at 8:40 am Link to this comment
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Brava Helen on your honesty and integrity.Unfortunatley,people like you are betrayed,marginalized and retired for your candor.Freedom of expression and the press is now squashed by politically correct androids and thier PR machines.It seems Obama’s Audacity of Hope is nothing more than an Audacity of Bullshit.Globally,America is sliding into an inevidable decline,perpetuated by politicians too afraid,lazy or intelligent enough to tackle the serious problems of our time,while at the same time enriching themselves and thier friends at the nations expense.
  The end of freedom is not coming,it is already here.It has been stolen by those in power and sold to those who are rich…

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By garth, October 14, 2010 at 7:46 am Link to this comment

reprehensible: deserving to be censured: highly unacceptable and deserving censure


If ever there were a more apt use of a word, I have not yet seen it.

Three cheers of Helen Thomas. 

Politico today talks about Obama, the lazy, opportunist, coiling into the warmth of a few truste associates during flights on Air Force One. 

Now, we learn he can only communicate in ‘Delivery Mode’, to large groups of people.  He retreats to his cabin in Air Force One with three other men no one has ever heard of and stays there, enjoying their company, no doubt. 

We are faced with a dilemma.  The worthless Ford Foundation student who never had an ounce of personal know-how or where-with-all versus the downright crazies in the Tea Party and Republican Party which is pretending to kow-tow to them, as if they were something separate altogether.

Reprehensible, yes.  So let’s slit our wrists, no.

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By grumpynyker, October 14, 2010 at 7:23 am Link to this comment
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Ms. Thomas,

I looked forward to your questions at White House press conferences.  Now that the Zionist scream machine overreacted to your comments(First Amendment doesn’t apply to her?!) and removed her.  Are you on a blog somewhere where I could read your opinions on Team Obama?

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By the worm, October 14, 2010 at 5:40 am Link to this comment

We know what happens to honest journalists,
but that doesnt mean they have to stop being
honest.

                              Thank you, Helen !

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By Sally G, October 14, 2010 at 4:25 am Link to this comment
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A very interesting clip; I hope to be able to listen the rest of the interview.  Ms. Thomas was100% right; it is the job of the journalist to ask hard questions, and she that is exactly what she was doing the morning in question.  Brava!  I am dismayed that the president used a TV forum to attack her in absentia; I would have hoped that he were more willing to accept critical questions.  Certainly presidents may feel personally offended by questions reporters ask, but that comes with the job.  As another Democratic president once said (quoting an adviser), “If you can’t stand the heat. . . .”  Sadly, I think the president was better as a candidate than he is in reality.

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By TheDavidDaoud, October 14, 2010 at 3:41 am Link to this comment

To Aaron Ortiz says: “Helen Thomas should not have been destroyed for saying what she
believes is true even though it is radically different from what the “mainstream”
believes.”

The “mainstream” has been lied to and fed misinformation by zionist influenced news media regarding Israel / Palestine. Helen Thomas was perfectly correct in what she said, and paid the price for her honesty.

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By Queenie, October 13, 2010 at 9:19 pm Link to this comment

Well, he IS reprehensible. And I agree 100% with Helen and her views. History will bear her out. Not Obomber.

Flame away.

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By john crandell, October 13, 2010 at 9:16 pm Link to this comment

AIPACers (and their shills) are everywhere!

Jimmy Carter was right.

Mearsheimer was right.

Helen is right.

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By Go Right Young Man, October 13, 2010 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment

Ms. Thomas had asked some good questions in her days.

The U.S. President found Helen Thomas’ remarks offensive and said as much.  The vast majority of Americans found Helen Thomas’ remarks offensive and said as much. 

After a long and distinguished career Ms. Thomas understandably lost credibility as a serious journalist.  The fault is her own.

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By pacrat, October 13, 2010 at 6:29 pm Link to this comment
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Israel is not Judaism! One can indeed be anti-Israel without being anti-Jewish.Israel is a country with the pluses and minuses of all countries. It is not a religion. Palestine is also a country and not a religion. Both are semitic countries.

Perhaps if the religious rhetoric were removed from the discussion there could be some progress on the differences between the two countries - as well as what unites the inhabitants of both countries - they are both semitic nations.

This has gone on too long already and the future of the world does not depend on whether this problem is ever solved - besides, can either side ever be completely satisfied?

Oh no, I can hear folks shrieking now “you don’t understand!” Really?

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By moonraven, October 13, 2010 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment

Maybe what YOU could do is stop wasting my time—and everybody else’s.

Just for the record, I agree 100% with Helen Thomas’s position.

Israel OUT of Palestine NOW!

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By Aaron Ortiz, October 13, 2010 at 5:12 pm Link to this comment

Ok, so, what did you understand me saying? Maybe you could put it in your own
words, and I could learn to communicate it better?

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By moonraven, October 13, 2010 at 5:03 pm Link to this comment

Every take a basic writing class?

Please remember that the objective of writing and speaking is to communicate.

Not obfuscate.

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By Aaron Ortiz, October 13, 2010 at 4:45 pm Link to this comment

My point: Helen Thomas should not have been destroyed for saying what she
believes is true even though it is radically different from what the “mainstream”
believes. I don’t agree with her views on Israel.

There. Is that better?

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By moonraven, October 13, 2010 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment

Aaron:

You said absolutely nothing!

Honestly.

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By Aaron Ortiz, October 13, 2010 at 4:28 pm Link to this comment

This topic is troll bait, but yet, another example of when being honest is (sadly) no
longer the best policy, given the media’s power to destroy reputations. I don’t
agree with Thomas’s view on Israel, though.

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