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Hedges, Stone and Moore on Hollywood’s Love of WarPosted on Dec 21, 2010
Who knew that Hollywood and the Pentagon sometimes shoot from the same storyboard, so to speak—one that casts war, and America’s role in same, in the best possible light (not to mention camera angles)? A lot of people, actually, including filmmakers Oliver Stone and Michael Moore and Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges, who all chime in about the entertainment industry’s relationship to the military-industrial complex in a new episode of Al-Jazeera’s “Empire” airing over the Christmas holiday and previewed in the clip below. Click here for more information on the show on Al-Jazeera’s website. Al-Jazeera English: Advertisement The World As It Is:Dispatches on the Myth of Human Progress
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By Nixon is Lord, April 6, 2011 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment
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Revolutionary, you go first onto the barricades! We
Report thiswill enjoy the sight of a pudgy geek with a rifle in
his hand getting his a** served to him by the
“military-industrial complex” and its minions of dupes
struggling under false consciousness.
Hasta la victoria, dillweed!
By Revolutionary, December 28, 2010 at 10:54 am Link to this comment
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Only violent revolution can overthrow America. The morality based ideas of Chomsky, Nader and Hedges can never work. One must use internal sedition to unravel the American social fabric…And physical force against the military industrial police complex. The collapsing ecology will bring an end to the economy that depends on it.
Report thisBy Saje Williams, December 28, 2010 at 6:39 am Link to this comment
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I certainly never considered We Were Soldiers to be ‘pro-war.’ The carnage was astonishing, and that includes the emotional carnage shown back home as the wives took over the duty of informing the spouses of downed servicemen.
It was a slaughter, plain and simple. I don’t know how anyone could have gotten “glory” out of that mess. I can’t imagine anyone seeing that movie and wanting to go out to fight. And isn’t that what ‘pro-war’ would be?
Report thisBy Nixon is Lord, December 26, 2010 at 8:49 pm Link to this comment
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Moore is too fat to be believable; Oliver Stone’s movies are mental; Hedges should have stayed in the pulpit and passed the plate-of course, this presupposes that Mainline Protestantism isn’t shrinking away to nothing.
Report thisBy ikallicrates, December 25, 2010 at 12:21 am Link to this comment
Moonraven,
You’re right, of course. I should have referred to the film by its usual English name. My only excuse is that most critics agree ‘The Human Condition’ is vague and doesn’t adequately express the meaning of the film’s Japanese name. Now that the film is becoming more widely known, thanks to Criterion’s excellent dvd, I assumed it would get a better English name.
Report thisBy moonraven, December 24, 2010 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment
ikallicrates:
It never hurts, on an English language site, to put the English title of a film.
In this case, it’s a three-part masterpiece called, in English, The Human Condition.
Good choice.
I still prefer the rougher films, The Burmese Harp and Fire on the Plain—both by Kon Ichikawa.
Report thisBy ikallicrates, December 24, 2010 at 10:40 am Link to this comment
The best antwar film ever made is generally considered to be Ningen no j?ken by Masaki Kobayashi. Some critics call it the best Japanese film ever made, while British film critic David Shipman called it the best film ever made.
Report thisBy Yaleman, December 23, 2010 at 11:56 am Link to this comment
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All Quiet on the Western Front….far and away. Lew Ayres.
Report thisBy John, December 22, 2010 at 10:14 pm Link to this comment
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Surfnow is spot on. But, I will be less kind: Those who do watch anti-war films like Platoon who are over the age of 12 and still get worked up are complete morons.
That’s like watching Trainspotting and wanting to become a heroin addict afterward.
Report thisBy moonraven, December 22, 2010 at 9:03 pm Link to this comment
bogi:
I would choose Grand Illusion, Fires on the Plain, The Burmese Harp and King and Country.
Report thisBy Geoff, December 22, 2010 at 7:09 pm Link to this comment
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Surfnow,
Your assumption is right. Blackhawk Down was basically produced by the
Pentagon.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BackedByThePentagon
Report thisBy Geoff, December 22, 2010 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment
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Oliver Stone seems to have a knack for delivering the opposite message he
intended.
Wall Street - Most quoted movie by a—holes everywhere.
Natural Born Killers - glamorized violence more than Hard Copy, Currant Affair
or any of the tabloid TV of it’s day ever did.
Both of these are great films, though. And seriously, at least he’s trying. That’s
more than can be said for most filmmakers.
On a side note of shameless self-promotion. I’m currently in post-production
Report thison my own anti-war film:
http://www.fraymovie.com
By Geoff, December 22, 2010 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment
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Oliver Stone seems to have a knack for delivering the opposite message he
intended.
Wall Street - Most quoted movie by a—holes everywhere.
Natural Born Killers - glamorized violence more than Hard Copy, Currant Affair
or any of the tabloid TV of it’s day ever did.
Both of these are great films, though. And seriously, at least he’s trying. That’s
more than can be said for most filmmakers.
On a side note of shameless self-promotion. I’m currently in post-production
Report thison my own anti-war film:
http://www.fraymovie.com
By Glen Wayne, December 22, 2010 at 6:59 pm Link to this comment
A Christmas Krieg empirePie
It’s the season of Yuletide joy again
Time to sing of Blitzen and Birth;
but ......:
“Hark the austerity cherubs sing:
a hoy and a haw, a hoy and a haw, for the hoi polloi” ;
Wring every predator wing of worth
from the ‘born again bombers’ berth
The limp listless followers of Brand O
changeless and choice less
president Brand O ...voice less
framing bangs for every buck
lip lipless nothings of good tidings to all
and sing the sing song of frosty jack
and levered levered assets
the pile of steaming lucre
longing for another blitz
A Christmas Krieg
A time to sing of Blitzen and Birth
a time to wring every predator wing of worth
from the ‘born again bombers’ berth
as austerity cherubs chant:
Report this“be joyful and know that “peace is war’,
be joyful and know that “peace is war’,
By Guy Montag, December 22, 2010 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment
Try Dennis Quaid in “Savior” where he plays a Foreign Legion sniper in Bosnia. Unlike most war films, I he only fires a few shots in the whole movie. Not a bang-bang movie. And not a typical Hollywood ending.
Report thisBy bogi666, December 22, 2010 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment
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The absolute best anti war movie of all time is the original “All Quiet on the Western Front”.
Report thisBy Guy Montag, December 22, 2010 at 12:43 pm Link to this comment
Here’s a couple of “anti-war” films:
“The Tillman Story” exposes how a patriotic American family is betrayed by the highest levels of the media, government and military. More laughs than you would expect,along with a few well-placed F-bombs.
(I’ve posted on the subject at http://www.feralfirefighter.blogspot.com)
“Generation Kill” is a bit more ambiguous. It does a great job of portraying the start of the Iraq War from a grunt’s perspective. A lot of stupid orders coming down from above.
Report thisBy felicity, December 22, 2010 at 11:35 am Link to this comment
Hollywood gives the public what the public will
watch. Again, follow the money.
Returning from living over seas years ago (no radio
or television available) I was literally shocked, and
appalled, at the violence depicted on American
television. Especially alarming was the cavalier
attitude toward deaths suffered at the hands of
others, often a well-they-deserved-it-attitude.
And how about CNN’s coverage of the Gulf War - a
Report thisveritable light show ala Disneyland filled our living
rooms almost non-stop. War depicted as nothing more
than a spectacular light show.
By surfnow, December 22, 2010 at 7:48 am Link to this comment
Many so—called ” antiwar” films like Platoon backfire and actually excite young minds into believing that war is about heroism and honor. However, there have been great antiwar films that rally do tell it straight. Certainly Born on the Fourth of July and Paths of Glory and the fairly recent Battle for Haditha and a must see foreign antiwar film A Long Term Engagement. Two films that come to mind as being totally prowar though: We Were Soldiers and Black Hawk Down- they must have been produced by the Pentagon.
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