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Former FBI Interrogator Tells ‘60 Minutes’ About Emergence of Torture TacticsPosted on Sep 17, 2011
Little is publicly known about the security investigations that followed the 9/11 terrorist attacks (as Robert Scheer illuminated in his column last week), but a recent “60 Minutes” interview with a former FBI agent shed some light on what had been going on behind the scenes. Former FBI agent Ali Soufan, now a private security consultant in New York, spoke publicly for the first time with CBS’ Lara Logan about how he interrogated al-Qaida members after the attack and witnessed what became the beginning of a long history of “enhanced interrogation techniques.” Watch the CBS 60 Minutes interview.
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By national-security-4-us, September 21, 2011 at 12:53 am Link to this comment
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Another one who knows that most wanted terrorists were captured in america on 5/29/2004 in florida & in or around july ?? 2004…
Not the poppycock we were told ~ he knows that aafia siddiqui & fazul abdullah mohammed were captured in florida & that soon thereafter ahmed khalfan ghailani was also captured in florida ~ as for the other 3 who information was given to l.e.o.s ~ I have no idea…
Plus he resigned in 2005 ~ he more than likely grilled & interrogated the 3 people named above…
HE GOT REWARDED & BLEST FOR HIS SILENCE JUST LIKE GEORGE TENET & MANY OTHERS…
Report thisBy Cliff Carson, September 20, 2011 at 12:40 pm Link to this comment
Thank you EmileZ for your comment
I guess what surprises me most about this is that the American people so easily were induced to drink the Kool-Aid of gutter behavior.
I can’t remember at which place the beating of the detainees legs took place, but the fact is that if you read the comments at the site concerning the documentary, there are many who dismiss it as Anti-American venom.
One commenter saying that most if not all the detainees are guilty of war crimes really has no clue.
A responder to his comment pointed out that NONE of the detainees have ever had a trial. And the Senate hearing a few years ago revealed that fact, that 92% of the detainees at Gitmo were there after being sold to the United States for the bounty offered by the U S Forces. No proof that those sold for bounty was required to get the bounty money. And as a result they would up in Gitmo.
The examination presented in that Senate Hearing (Which I watched live)revealed that the number of detainees caught on the battle field could be counted on the fingers of one hand. And yet they languished there for years without a trial and without any evidence that they had in any way fought against the United States.
Many of them are still there. When the Senate hearing took place only one detainee had been released, an Australian who offered to plead guilt if they would let him out of Gitmo.
He plead guilty of speaking against the United States and he was released.
Report thisBy EmileZ, September 20, 2011 at 4:49 am Link to this comment
@ Cliff Carson
“Taxi To The Darkside” was about incidents which occured at the Bagram air base and prison in Afghanistan.
In my view, our use of torture in the “war on terror” is identical to the inquistition. Confess!!! Confess!!! I am suprised there have not been more articles drawing this comparison.
Report thisBy Cliff Carson, September 20, 2011 at 4:24 am Link to this comment
When a Country adopts torture as a standard of interrogation, it means that country has abandoned all pretense of Rule of Law and Moral conduct.
Since I started looking into the torture reports after the Abu Gharib case I have seen documented reports of medieval treatments equal to use of the rack.
One documented case shown on Taxi to the Darkside was about a detainee who was beaten on the legs with baseball bat like sticks for about two weeks before he died. Some of the soldiers who actually did the beating were interviewed.
When the detainee died doctors doing an autopsy said his leg bones had been reduced to the consistency of gravel.
He never gave any information useful to the interrogators. He may have been ready to tell them anything they wanted to hear, unfortunately for him, he didn’t seem to know what it was they wanted to hear.
Then there was the Iraqi General who was wrapped into a blanket and placed into a burlap sack and then smothered to death. Start reading - you will be amazed and sickened.
The U S Government has been adamantly seeking to place others before International Court for actions actually less gruesome than you will find.
But Obama (this is the version from 50,000 feet) excused and refused to look into the torture using an excuse (I wrote an article “Circular Logic” about this a couple of years ago) as follows:
The Obama Administration said we couldn’t charge the torturers because they were just following orders and we couldn’t charge those giving the orders because they didn’t actually do the torturing!
That statement illustrates the character of our Government.
Report thisBy EmileZ, September 20, 2011 at 3:48 am Link to this comment
Sorry Lara Logan.
That was a fine segment. My emotions got the better of me.
Report thisBy EmileZ, September 20, 2011 at 3:27 am Link to this comment
Lara Logan is a tool.
Report thisBy JimBob, September 18, 2011 at 6:40 pm Link to this comment
It’s very difficult to understand how America can watch
Report thisan episode like this, go to bed and wake up feeling the
same about itself the next morning. We’re so smug in
our certainty that the United States is above the law,
above morality, above the simple Christianity of its
founders, no wonder so much of the world hates us.
By gerard, September 18, 2011 at 5:21 pm Link to this comment
Hulk 2008 gives us something to think about:
“Remember that interviews of individuals only comprise a tiny part of overall intelligence data.”
Furthermore: Remember that only a tiny part of any single individual interview comprises “intelligence data” so it’s a tiny part of a tiny part—and of that “tiny part” much of it is unreliable. Furthermore, it’s costing hours of agony for those who are tortured, and their families. Beyond that, it’s costing us our national reputation plus millions upon millions of dollars paid by taxpayers to support the process.
Report thisReminder: Any one of us can think of ten better ways to waste money—and without hurting anyone. Violence is stupid.
By Cliff Carson, September 18, 2011 at 5:20 pm Link to this comment
I am somewhat surprised. Is this really a recent 60 Minutes Interview? When was it done?
I wrote an article about Ali, I think early in 2009 and his statements about being replaced by a torture team.
I wrote an article about the torturing to death on November 4th 2003, of Manadel Al Jamidi at Abu Gharib prison. In that article I pointed out that Jamidi was not the only person tortured to death that night at Abu Gharib.
Originally Jamidi was not on the rolls of persons in U S captivity, as I recall, because he was pulled in on one of those sweeps when every male (and some females) In the sweep zone are arrested and brought in for questioning.
He was killed by Navy Seals and a Contractor Team. The method of death was Palestinian Hanging. He was never charged with anything and witnesses said he never said a word. The torture caused him to drown in his own blood.
If you do some research you will find all kinds of lethal torture used by the Interrogators. You can find that there are over one hundred documented cases of torturing detainees to death. The undocumented number can only be guessed at.
To me the most gruesome is those reports (See Taxi to the Dark Side) from this Documentary where soldiers who did the torturing reported the torturing of children in from of their parents. Those soldiers did not say they did it. One of the people tortured as being a battlefield operative was a blind and cripple man - disabled before the Iraqi war.
That procedure seemed to be able to get the detainee to admit to anything. The children suffered horribly when the detainee didn’t know what to tell his interrogators.
Report thisBy Hulk2008, September 18, 2011 at 4:43 pm Link to this comment
“Intelligence” comes from assembling hundreds of bits of seemingly unrelated data into meaningful units. No individual could ever be relied upon in any way to provide most of the answers. News media routinely dismiss what even our own Congressional leaders and President say as individuals - rather it’s the placing of all commentary into context that provides truth.
Report thisRemember that interviews of individuals only comprise a tiny part of overall intelligence data.
By blogdog, September 18, 2011 at 12:34 am Link to this comment
moles working for a rogue network, determined to suppress information and keep patsies in play - and, patsies in custody, until they say what is needed
e.g.
Brent Mickum
guardian.co.uk, Monday 30 March 2009
The truth about Abu Zubaydah - http://tinyurl.com/c7b4jo
The Bush administration’s false claim that my client was a top al-Qaida official has led to his imprisonment and torture
[...]
Zayn’s capture and imprisonment were touted as a great achievement in the fight against terrorism and al-Qaida. There was just one minor problem: the man described by President Bush and others within his administration as a “top operative”, the “number three person” in al-Qaida, and al-Qaida’s “chief of operations” was never even a member of al-Qaida, much less an individual who was among its “inner circle”. The Bush administration had made another mistake.
[...]
South Asia - Oct 30, 2002
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.html
A chilling inheritance of terror
By Syed Saleem Shahzad
KARACHI - Ever since the frenzied shootout last month on September 11 in Karachi there have been doubts over whether Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self- proclaimed head of al-Qaeda’s military committee, died in the police raid on his apartment.
[...]
conclusion: the global war of terror is the biggest fraud of all time
Report thisBy car, September 17, 2011 at 11:00 pm Link to this comment
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CBS 60 minutes interviewer does not mention that as a matter of fact, we prohibit torture because it forces false confessions. She also does not mention that information provided under duress is not admissable in the court of law. One wonders why do have a habit of forgetting established facts?
The interviewer also does not mention that it is also an established fact that sometimes overzealous law enforcement officials can and do elicit confessions from suspects using various EITs - Enhanced Interrogation Techniques. Sometimes, suspects indicted thus sometimes face the death penalty or life in prison.
The only rationale behind use of EITs or torture has to be in the manufacture of facts. EITs were reportedly used to gather evidence for Powell’s arguments for the invasion of Iraq at the UN.
Report thisBy Drew, September 17, 2011 at 10:39 pm Link to this comment
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Lara scoops that story. She is bad ass.
Report thisBy Mike O., September 17, 2011 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment
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<Interrogator enters interview room.>
Interrogator: “Tell us what we want to know…”
Detainee: “What do you want to know?”
Interrogator: “You know what we want to know.”
<Interrogator walks out of room.>
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That sounds retarded.
Report thisBy Misfiteye, September 17, 2011 at 4:37 pm Link to this comment
It sounds like someone was afraid he would talk too much.
Report thisBy gerard, September 17, 2011 at 3:09 pm Link to this comment
I want you to tell me something that I know that you don’t know but you don’t want me to know that you don’t know it and I don’t want you to know it either.
Report thisP.S. They call it “intelligence.”