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Did Mitt Romney Really Say He Likes Firing People?

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Posted on Jan 9, 2012
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Here is the clip that will be taken out of context and turned into advertisements from now until November:

(Thanks to Political Wire.)

In case you’re still catching up on your 2012 election news, Mitt Romney made his fortune at a hedge fund that specialized in mergers, acquisitions and layoffs. While President Obama is vulnerable on the economy, this footage will certainly help him portray Romney (his likely opponent in the general election) as a rich guy who “likes” to fire people.

It will be interesting to see what Republicans do with this in the coming weeks.  —PZS

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By oddsox, January 14, 2012 at 5:13 pm Link to this comment

D.R. Zing—I, too, run a small business.  Very small.
But it’s the little guy who seems to have been left behind here. 
I can’t see anything that’s been done for SMALL business.  Ok, a small 2% dip in my FICA taxes—by the way, will I get that much less when I retire? 
I saw a 17% increase in my health insurance premiums the month after Obamacare passed.  And another 37% premium hike last year.  Can’t wait ‘til May when I get my next “adjustment.”

ON FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT:
You mention FDR.  It’s been 80 years since he was first elected and the jury’s still out on what finally ended the Depression.  Roosevelt’s efforts to end the it are far from sacrosanct.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx
And it’s hard for a wee-brain like mind to wrap itself around dumping good milk down the sewer for the sake of dairy price supports when poor kids somewhere could have been drinking it.

But 30 years later, as a kid I used WPA-built schools, an auditorium, post office and library.  Some of those buildings are still standing in my home town, how about yours? 
And then there’s the Hoover Dam and Golden Gate Bridge.
Do you suppose there’ll be any such monuments to the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment (aka Stimulus) Act?

Bottom Line on FDR:
He got elected 4 times so he had to be doing something right. 
There’s no arguing he was one of our great Presidents. 
And best beloved, too.

“I don’t mind paying taxes. The more I pay, the more I’m making.” —Zing

Gotta, say, I didn’t mind much either when I had a good year (like 2010). 
Hate payin’‘em when I’m pinched, though (2011).

ROMNEY As PRESIDENT:

Well, I think he can make a case for being able to apply private sector solutions to public sector problems. 
We disagree, Zing, that these wouldn’t or couldn’t work.
We’ll see.  Or maybe we won’t.

—-

ON YOUR POETRY/LYRICS:

I don’t always get you and some of it makes me wince, but very funny, keep at it, I may take a shot at it myself sometime. 

Humor, art, music, sports—we need these to find release from stress and, sometimes, common ground with those whom we’d otherwise despise.

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By D.R. Zing, January 12, 2012 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

Hi Oddsox,

I must say I agree with you:  It’s a bit of a cheap shot that TruthDig
did not put the full context of Romney’s quote up on its site. It is
relevant that he was talking about insurance companies. 

I should also add my South Park inclusion below is not fair, polite or
even civil. 

That said, I do believe Romney deserves what he gets, from me, from
TruthDig.  Here’s why:  As far as I can tell, he never speaks of
government regulating businesses. He never speaks of government
regulating the stock market.

Recall your history. You probably know it better than I do.  Between 1850
and 1937 there were something like five depressions. My own personal
theory is these drastic dips were so common we had to give the last one,
the worst one, a special name, The Great Depression. 

What was a driving force behind these drastic fluctuations in the
economy?  A superstitious and fanatical belief in the free market coupled
with the lack of a social safety net.

FDR, against all odds, slowly but surely changed this mindset.  It’s
common to say these days World War II ended The Great Depression.
Nonsense.  The fact is the radical intransigence of the free market
fanatics lengthened The Great Depression.  Every move Roosevelt made was
a chess move.  He had to sacrifice pawns, waste time on feints, and back
off from decisive moves that would have saved the economy faster but cost him
his queen piece, the presidency. 

Now, in this strange television news world we live in, where history is
not reported, where books can only be discussed by authors who are
selling them and therefore suspect, where journalists believe allowing
someone to lie about history and books is not a lie but simply a point of
view—in that environment, we have slipped back the last thirty years
to a mindset believing the free market is the cure for all economic woes. 

We’re continuing to believe it, too—at least people like Romney are—
as we go right down the tube.  Believe it. Espouse it. Imbibe it. Even as
it’s killing us. Like drug addicts and drunks. 

And before the word socialist leaps into your mind to describe me,
let me say I’m a capitalist to the bone. I come from a capitalist family.
I’ve run small businesses.  I make good money doing what I do now, thank
you.

But I don’t mind paying taxes. The more I pay, the more I’m making. And I
sincerely believe government should drastically reduce the number of
mergers and acquisitions; it should break up the corporate news media; it
should reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act; and it should legislate away the
legal precedent of corporations having protections under the Fourteeth
Amendment to the Constitution, which was implemented to protect the human
rights of former slaves, by the way, not the rights of corporations.

All that carefully said, I can now happily say in my opinion Mitt Romney
as President of the United States would continue the downward
spiral of this country. I have no qualms with him personally.  I’m sure
he’s a good man.  But as president, no, he would be evil.

Dig peace. Don’t bury it.

D.R. Zing      

P.S. 
Here’s some info on Glass-Steagall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act

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By oddsox, January 12, 2012 at 6:41 am Link to this comment

I gave kudos to TruthDig in my post below, but now have to retract them.

To be fair, the TruthDig video link above takes Romney out of full context, just as the A/V booth poster predicted.

Romney was talking about individuals being able to choose their own health insurance provider rather than being forced to accept a government mandate.

His statement has been twisted to benefit his political opponents.  That may be fair game in the world of politics, and you may not agree with Romney, but at least you should be able to see the full quote:

“I want individuals to have their own insurance. That means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy.
It also means if? you don’t like what they do, you can fire them.
I like being able to fire people who provide services to me.
If someone doesn’t give me the good service that I need, I want to say I’m going to go get someone else to provide that service to me.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=-Oq3Dws12SM

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By D.R. Zing, January 10, 2012 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment

Yeah.

There’s a huge creepy factor with the way Mr. Romney is dissembling—
not telling the whole truth. 

Layoffs frequently have little or nothing to do with job performance. 
I’ve seen three hundred people laid off in a swipe, not because they
were doing the their jobs poorly, but because they were performing
well.

They did their jobs. A big company looked on, said, “Hey you guys are
doing great,” and bought the company. The big company didn’t
understand the market and could not generate sales.  Within a year
they had shut down the entire company they’d bought—300 people lost
their jobs.

Who had screwed up? The executives who made the purchase. Who paid? 
The employees and the customers who had bought their products. 

Mergers and acquisitions are part of what’s killing our economy.  It’s
easy money for bankers; they get rich quick. It’s easy money for
CEO’s; they don’t have to know how to run a company, just sell it.
It’s bad for employees who lose their jobs, it’s bad for customers who
see customer service cut first, and it’s bad for the economy because
viable markets and products are bought up and destroyed, thereby
preventing small business from entering markets while at the same time
hurting consumers. 

But here’s what came to mind first when I watched this clip, a little
ditty by the creators of South Part:

Some people say that I’m a bad guy
They may be right
They may be right
But it’s not as if I don’t try
I just fuck up
Try as I might

But I can change, I can change
I can learn to keep my promises
I swear it.
I’ll open up my heart
And I will share it
Any minute now
I will be born again

Yes, I can change, I can change
I know I’ve been a dirty little bastard
I like to kill, I like to maim
Yes, I’m insane, but it’s OK
Cause I can change

It’s not my fault that I’m so evil
It’s society, society
You see my parents were sometimes abusive
And it made a prick of me

But I can change, I can change
I can learn to keep my promises
I know it.
I’ll open up my heart
And I will show it
Any minute now
I will be born again

Satan The Dark Prince:
But what if you never change?
What if you remain a sandy little butt-hole?

Saddam Hussein:
Hey Satan
Don’t be such a twit
Mother Theresa won’t have shit on me.

Just watch
Just watch me change
Here I go I’m changing

Hey Satan!

SOUTH PARK - I CAN CHANGE LYRICS

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By oddsox, January 10, 2012 at 9:18 am Link to this comment

Kudos to TruthDig for an honest posting here.

In context, Romney is saying he likes being able to fire CORPORATIONS!

Easy to see the confusion, though, since, as Romney has said, “Corporations are People.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romney-says-corporations-are-people/2011/08/11/gIQABwZ38I_story.html

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