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Dennis Kucinich and Chris Hedges on the 99 Percent

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Posted on Oct 6, 2011
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Unions gave a high-profile boost to the long-running Occupy Wall Street protest against economic inequality, with their members joining thousands of protesters in a lower Manhattan march.

This week on Truthdig Radio in collaboration with KPFK: Rep. Dennis Kucinich and Chris Hedges explain why the 99 percenters are “the best among us.” Plus: Occupy L.A., Obama’s “secure communities” and modern midwifery.

A full transcript is available below.

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Peter Scheer: This is Truthdig Radio in collaboration with KPFK Los Angeles. I’m Truthdig.com managing editor Peter Scheer, wishing you a warm and crispy Wednesday on this rainy day. The 99 percenters, who began their occupation of Wall Street Sept. 17, are finally getting national attention, but mainstream journalists seem baffled by who these people are and what they want. In a minute, Rep. Dennis Kucinich and Chris Hedges, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, will tell us why the protesters are what Hedges calls “the best among us.” Later, we’ll hear from the 99 percenters themselves as Howie Stier reports from the occupation in downtown Los Angeles. Also on today’s show, Leilani Albano reports on the president’s Secure Communities program, and we hear from the mother of modern midwifery, Ina May Gaskin.

Let’s begin with Chris Hedges. He is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, the former Mideast bureau chief for The New York Times, and a prolific author, most recently of “The Death of the Liberal Class” and “The World As It Is.” He writes a column every Monday on Truthdig. Chris, welcome to Truthdig.

Chris Hedges: Thank you.

Peter Scheer: How are you? Where are you?

Chris Hedges: Princeton, about to leave for Washington.

Peter Scheer: And you were, last week, you were at Occupy Wall Street in …

Chris Hedges: Well, no, I’d been there several days, yeah. But we’re occupying a plaza in Washington tomorrow.

Peter Scheer: Can you talk about that real quick?

Chris Hedges: Well, that’s the October 2011 movement, which has been building over several months and actually pre-dated the call by Adbusters for the occupation of Wall Street, but has since worked closely with them, and is a very similar kind of attempt to take over a public space with no terminal date.

Peter Scheer: And where is that going to take place?

Chris Hedges: I have to—I think it’s called Liberty—I think it’s actually called Liberty Plaza, but people should go to the 2011 website to get directions. I haven’t gotten directions yet because I’m not on the train yet.

Peter Scheer: So let me ask you about these 99 percenters. You spent time with them; people can find online, there’s a great series, a really extensive interview you did with them on YouTube, which they can also find on Truthdig. With “them,” I say; it’s clearly not one single group of people, which seems to have really frustrated journalists. There’s this narrative emerging that these people are confused about what they want, or not really clear about what they want.

Chris Hedges: Well, the only people who are confused are the journalists. They’re not confused; I can sum up what they want, or what they’re doing, or what their goal is in one word, and it’s called rebellion. They don’t have any faith in the corporate systems of power, nor should they. They recognize that electoral politics is a farce; that the judiciary and the press are wholly owned subsidiaries of the corporate state; and that the only way they are going to be heard, both as citizens and as people who care about protecting the planet, is to build a movement, and that’s precisely what they’re doing. They are so savvy, so smart, so clear and so well organized. From the outside, they may not look organized, but when you’re inside the park, boy, they’ve really got it together. And it’s just—I ran into the managing editor of The New York Times, Dean Baquet, who’s a friend of mine, Thursday and I said you know, you have to send a reporter down. Instead of going down for a few minutes and looking at them , you have to send a reporter down there, and write about how they put this thing together. And Dean did, and it was in the Saturday paper. Because it’s really remarkable. And because it’s non-hierarchical, the authorities don’t know what to do with it. I mean, one of the funny sort of scenarios that is constant within the park are these undercover cops who appear in Yankees baseball hats and tell you they’re students from Rollins College, even though they look to be about 35. I mean, it’s sort of out of a Doonesbury cartoon. But the question they always ask is, you know, ‘So, who do you think the core leadership are? So where are the leaders?’ And the fact is it’s ruled by consensus. And what the cops want to do is find out who that cobble is of manipulators and decapitate the movement, but since they don’t exist, they can’t do it. And that’s part of the whole confusion; they run up against a structure they don’t comprehend and they don’t understand. And that not only is true for the New York City police department, but it’s also true for the press that comes down and isn’t prepared to think outside the box.

Peter Scheer: Let me ask you, we sent a reporter out, Howie Stier, to the Occupy L.A. protest today. And he reported—and we’ll get to this later in the show—that there was a remarkable lack of a police presence. Is this particular to New York? You’ve encountered this a lot in your protests in Washington. And how have the police been, in relation to the protests …

Chris Hedges: Well, in New York, it’s very heavy. Because they have essentially militarized the financial district of lower Manhattan. Every single street going in to Wall Street has metal barricades with police, and there are phalanxes of motorcycle cops, patrol cars, paddy wagons—which every once in a while, just to remind all the protesters they’re there, in the middle of the night they’ll circle the park with the sirens and the lights going. Because everyone sleeps there, of course. So no, the police presence has been very, very, very heavy. And …

Peter Scheer: Has it changed with more attention?

Chris Hedges: What’s that?

Peter Scheer: In terms of the abusiveness, has it changed with more attention on the police?

Chris Hedges: Yeah. They clearly—I mean, the feeling among the protesters is that when those attacks took place a week ago, where they used pepper spray on those women, it was an attempt to provoke the crowd. I don’t know whether that’s true; I don’t know what the motives of the NYPD are. But there is a feeling, there was a feeling among the protesters that what they wanted was a violent response, maybe even a riot. Because that’s the kind of language they speak. I mean, pictures of people smashing the windows of cars is not going to garner any kind of sympathy among the wider public. Well, they didn’t respond. And what’s fascinating is that because the mainstream media wasn’t there, they created their own media, just like your dad did with Ramparts, and started doing real journalism, just like your dad did. And shamed, just like your dad did,  the traditional media into responding. So the only people that were recording this pepper spray incident were people who had cameras from the protest group itself; indeed, the nerve center for the protesters on Wall Street is the media center in the center of the park. And it’s interesting that one of the decisions, if the park is raided, is that large groups of people will surround the media center to try and keep it going as long as possible. So once again, the commercial media was not doing its job, and these people found a way to have a voice by creating a media system of their own. And they’ve done a very effective job of it. So since that exposure of Anthony Bologna, this inspector who—you know, it’s just an amazing piece of footage;  these women are seated on the sidewalk and he’s spraying them in the face, till they can’t breathe, with pepper spray—the police have had to back off. I mean, the pressure has not been as intense. I mean, they did arrest large numbers of people on the Brooklyn Bridge, and there’s a gigantic march today, by the way, that’s been joined with unions; unions have joined in. But that has given the protesters some space that they did not have before.

Peter Scheer: Let me ask you about the police again, because—not to dwell on this, but you’ve written extensively in your column about how—and in your books—as we make this shift to a more oligarchical society—feudalistic—that the elites will have to surround themselves with a security apparatus to protect from the public anger. And we saw, I just want to bring up, in 2008 what happened at the Republican Convention, Amy Goodman and two of her producers were trying to report on protests there and they were surrounded by an extreme police presence. And then they were beaten and arrested, and they just won a settlement from the cities, St. Paul and Minneapolis, and from the Secret Service. And I wonder if you see this, how this will affect media coverage in the future. The settlement, and the reaction to the protesting.

Chris Hedges: I don’t think the settlement’s going to affect the coverage too much. I mean, police were, for instance, arresting reporters on the Brooklyn Bridge; they were beating reporters on that Saturday march when those women were sprayed in the face with pepper spray. So anybody recording acts of police brutality is instantly seen, I think, as the enemy no matter who they work for. And I expect that if they go in and try and shut this thing down, the first or the primary target will be making sure that it can’t be broadcast to the outside world. I mean, they certainly understand the role of the media system that the protesters have set up, and how much it has hurt them. And it’s hurt them a lot.

Peter Scheer: There was a post that was sort of going viral around the Internet, a commentary, a guy writing in sympathy with the 99 percent protesters, but also urging them to—sort of a humorous commentary but semi-serious—urging them to put on a polo shirt and khakis. And made the argument that they shouldn’t come off as more, I don’t know, radical; that they should think about how they’re represented in the media. Do you find that compelling at all?

Chris Hedges: No. I don’t think the media is going to give them much slack …

Peter Scheer: I mean, there were these photos, for instance, of women, topless women …

Chris Hedges: I mean, look, the whole reaction of the media has been, in essence, to make fun of them. I mean, Ralph Nader wears a suit and a white shirt and a tie everywhere he goes, and they make fun of him.

Peter Scheer: Yeah.

Chris Hedges: I mean, you’re about to have Dennis Kucinich on; Dennis always looks pretty sharp, and I’ve watched the media make fun of him. No. You know, they will find—because there’s no cost. They can’t do this to the tea party. Because the Koch brothers and all their backers will come down on them like a ton of bricks. But they can be snarky and snide and dismissive of the left, because the left has no power within this country, yet. I mean, let’s hope that that changes. And so they do. And if you look at the early coverage, especially in The New York Times, it’s just … I mean, it’s disgusting. And you know, why should everybody look like they, you know, shop at The Gap or J. Crew, or—is that really such a great look? [laughter] I think the people in the park look great.

Peter Scheer: So, let me ask you. You know a hell of a lot about the Middle East. You were The New York Times bureau chief there; you speak the language. This movement is said to be inspired by what happened in Tahrir Square, in Cairo, and the Arab Spring youth movements there. Obviously very different culture, different things going on, but do you see—what similarities and differences do you see there?


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By Pacific, October 12, 2011 at 7:13 am Link to this comment

Thanks for all your reports.  As a former resident of Los Angeles, I found the venders report and the impact of “Community Security” staggeringly insulting.  The linking of local law enforcement with Homeland Security and immigration was one of my biggest fears since childhood, and as an adult, since 9/11. 

As a child, we had a Mexican nanny who was a second mother to me and my sister, and who was whisked away one night by immigration officials while my parents were out to dinner.  A green and white patrol car pulled up to the house, and an official in what looked like a train steward’s cap came to the door wanting to talk to our nanny, Julia.  I was five or six at the time, and happily brought her to the door.  He questioned her briefly, then led her out to the awaiting car.  I lived for a long time with the guilt of having turned her over to the “ferderales,” even though she returned weeks later, and worked for us for years to come.  She eventually found work with another family, but I would run into her walking around town on occasion well into my late teens, and was always greeted with the big embrace of a long lost son.  I loved her like my own mother.  This is probably a “luxurious” example of the plight of undocumented workers, but one that has stayed with me all my life.

I remain of the opinion that we should open the “floodgates” to Mexican and Central American workers, document them, give them drivers licenses (of course), and help integrate them into the mainstream of American life..regardless of current unemployment statistics.  As second and third generation Mexican-Americans have proven, they are at least equally if not better prepared to meet the challenges of an increasingly difficult “American Dream,” and with all that they have contributed to the dreams of others, we are obligated to afford them similar opportunities that we once offered the same immigrants during better economic times.
Keep up the good reporting of “The Occupation” (sic).

Bangkok, Thailand

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By Night-Gaunt, October 8, 2011 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment

A real leader wouldn’t care what pressure Kos, the President, or anyone else placed upon him.

A real leader would say, “Fuck off! I’m not voting for a bill that was written by a former WellPoint executive and which forces people to buy junk insurance.”

Real easy for you to say. They were going to help the Republicans and DINOs to unseat him. Now wouldn’t you just be sitting pretty if they did? Where would be the good in that? His vote wasn’t important for the numbers, just for the appearance. I’m glad he did. I’d like to see you do that? Lose everything over one item. “Smart” and short sighted you are.

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By Lafayette, October 8, 2011 at 7:30 am Link to this comment

TANGIBLE REFORMATIONAL CHANGE (OF OUR POLITICAL CLASS)

CH: But they can be snarky and snide and dismissive of the left, because the left has no power within this country, yet. I mean, let’s hope that that changes.

If CH believes this, then he has a bad misunderstanding of the “Left” in America. Perhaps he’s spent too much time abroad, watching leftist demonstrations with red banners,

It is true that the Latins (French, Italian, Spanish & Portuguese) will descend into the streets at the drop of a hat. Americans don’t have that custom. Nowadays, we bitch-in-a-blog – which is about as progenitive as is masturbation. In fact, that’s all it is – mental masturbation.

MLK showed the way with his Million Man March in ’95. He wanted attention and no TV channel could possibly overlook 837,000 people camped on an esplanade in DC. Let’s hope that progressives have learned a lesson from that bit of history.  It was a grassroots movement, just like the present one, and it must be followed by something more than just oratory.

A meaningful Progressive Agenda is what would precipitate that coalescence into a political movement.

The question remains nonetheless, How does such a movement advance reformative politics? Some are hoping for a third party – but history shows that Americans tend to eschew such parties. So, it appears that the best chances for bringing about concrete reformational change in our political class is from within the more progressive of the existing parties.  (That’s the Dems, of course.)

Besides, in an election such as the presidency, two candidates on the Left will only split the vote; thus allowing the sole candidate on the Right to waltz into the Oval Office.

A PROGRESSIVE AGENDA

Without a well-written Progressive Agenda designating the primary objective of addressing Income Distribution Fairness in America, it is unclear how all the present effort can obtain eventually a conclusive electoral result. Meaning, stay focused on what is really important and let, for the moment, the ancillary objectives to wait just a bit.

Otherwise the movement becomes diffused, loses focus and dissipates. This is particularly the threat on the Left, which tends to be a rainbow profusion of political colours.

Can the Left learn to sing off the same hymn sheet as do the mindless Replicants? Which is the key to success, I submit. That is, as long as the hymn sheet in question is an attractive Progressive Agenda.

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By Mark A. Goldman, October 7, 2011 at 4:20 pm Link to this comment
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How to Fix the Economy
http://www.gpln.com/howtofixtheeconomy.htm

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By MK77, October 7, 2011 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment

“Mk77 don’t you remember the pressure put upon [Dennis Kucinich] by the DailyKos who said they would do all they can to unseat him if he didn’t vote for it?”


A real leader wouldn’t care what pressure Kos, the President, or anyone else placed upon him.

A real leader would say, “Fuck off! I’m not voting for a bill that was written by a former WellPoint executive and which forces people to buy junk insurance.”

But alas, we don’t have leaders anymore. What we have are a bunch of nervous sell-out types afraid to stand up to bullies and speak the truth.

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By Night-Gaunt, October 7, 2011 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment

Why weren’t people doing this during Reagan‘s time? There were some protesting against wars usually. The Bush‘s had hundreds of thousands protesting in major cities but were ignored. If it weren’t for the cops brutalizing people the Corporate Main Stream Media has finally lent part of an ear. The Reich wing are doing spin control but too many others see through that. Especially now that even some Tea Party types are there now too on the side of the protestors!

Dennis Kucinich can’t run for president since his party doesn’t like his point of view. They would deep-six him like the did before. We should have him as president not that faux Progressive, the Regressive Obama.

Mk77 don’t you remember the pressure put upon him by the DailyKos who said they would do all they can to unseat him if he didn’t vote for it? <b><i>Do some research. (Secretly the corps were for it all along as are the Republicans but they have put themselves into this strange position of being against all things Democrat even if it agrees with them!)

The police have shown that overall they still are for the bankers and hedge fund millionaire managers over us. But not all of them.

The Tea Party doesn’t get hassled by the police because they are on the side of the police. Ever wonder about that?

Shouldn’t it be the 90%ers? Since the top 10% own about 50%-75% of this country and how many of them are on our side? Not many I’d wager, not many at all.

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By Philip Feeley, October 7, 2011 at 11:30 am Link to this comment
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Why weren’t these massive, sustained protests happening during the Reagan/Bush years? The problem was just as bad when they were in charge.

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By EmileZ, October 7, 2011 at 8:49 am Link to this comment

@ cpb

Indisputable Fair and Balanceshipmanhood is a rare achievement and it bestows great honors upon you and your magnificent brain.

Congratulations.

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By EmileZ, October 7, 2011 at 8:41 am Link to this comment

@ cpb

You are indisputably fair and balanced.

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By cpb, October 7, 2011 at 8:35 am Link to this comment

Follow up to previous…  Let’s not forget the guy that
pretended to be a Koch brother and called the governor of
Wisconsin, suggested agent provocateur tactics to deal
with the growing protests, and received in reply
confirmation that such had indeed been considered and
debated.  They didn’t try it, for whatever reason, but
they thought about it. 

Let’s not be naive.

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By cpb, October 7, 2011 at 8:32 am Link to this comment

“It is amazing to see what can happen at a protest if a
small group of “anarchists” in all black DOES NOT show
up and start smashing things up.”

- Emilez

Worth pointing out that while many who show up in black
and smash shit may identify as anarchist, they do not
define the philosophy nor are they representative of the
majority of those who would so identify.

It is perhaps more important to point out that often
those that show up and smash shit, dressing the
stereotypical part, are paid members of the security
apparatus. 

Black Bloc is not a club - it is a tactic.
Agent Provocateur is not a person - it is a tactic.

If one fears that the state will inevitably “deal with
it”, then one should expect the latter tactic to be
considered and possibly employed.  During last years G20
in Toronto there was ample evidence suggesting that the
violence that did ensue was possibly instigated and most
definitely accommodated.  The PR gained was invaluable.

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By Lafayette, October 7, 2011 at 2:04 am Link to this comment

KUDOS TO DK

DK: The district that I’m running in right now is a district that has been created through the merging of two congressional districts

I am an American who lives in France, but I vote in Massachusetts.

First, I want to thank Rep. Kucinich for his tireless efforts to stop the “gerrymandering”  that ossifies our nation into a two party system - which is so easy to control by manipulation (of politicians and electoral spending).

I want to congratulate him for the fine work he has done in representing the state of Massachusetts and his brand of progressive Social Democracy 
to which I have become accustomed these long years I’ve lived in Europe.

I would be pleased that one day we have a similar faction of Social Democracy firmly ensconced in the Democrat Party. It would do America a world of good to foster and implement Social Democrat policies.

It has worked wonders in Europe, which has generally a far lower level of Income Inequality (see here ) than the US.

Who needs more proof than that?

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By Marian Griffith, October 7, 2011 at 1:55 am Link to this comment
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@Basofflakes
There are two critical changes that need to be made to the current system.
One, as you pointed out, is to limit campaign contributions. Evidence is abundant that the candidate with most money tends to win elections. So if most americans can afford to contribute perhaps 100 dollars to a campaign and a billionair spends a million, this means that the billionaire’s vote is worth 10000 times as much as that of the average american. So, if we limit contributions to 100 dollars most americans can have their vote back and we starve the perverse system that is based not on an exchange of ideas but of on who can pump out the most and most effective character assassination ads on television.

The other critial change that needs to be made is to reign in the financial markets. Fiat banking is not, in and of itself, a bad thing. However it needs strict regulations and tight ovesight. Any oversight that is not hated is not doing its job right after all. The most glaring, and damaging, part of it is how the banks keep invented new ways to gamble with the same money and pretend it is an entirely new contribution to the economy. Ultimately a share is nothing but a promissory of a percentage of the profit of a company. Trading in those shares does not add anything economically, and it does not determine the ‘value’ of the company in any way or form. That is putting the horse behind the cart really. Things get even worse if banks then start trading in projected share values at a future date, and add the volume of that to their ‘economic production’. And not satisfied with that they added insurance against default to their ‘production’, and trading in that insurance, and collaterised insurance, and trading in that, and insurance against that, and trading in -that- insurance. The newest ‘invention’ is gambling how well somebody can manage to predict changes in stock values.
And all that ‘trade’ in those ‘products’ is added to the ‘economic production’ that banks claim to represent, while it all really boils down to that one share that promises a percentage of a company’s profit that is sold a thousand times in different guises, often by people who never had nor never will have the share to begin with.
And now we have an immense hot air balloon full of money that is tied to economy in only the most tenuous ways, but that is direction the fate of entire nations and hundreds of millions of people. We -must- cut through all the pretense and self importance and get back to a situation where -economy- rules the economy, and not arbitrary numbers in a computer somewhere that say that somebody has 40 billion and the right to tell who lives and who dies.

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By EmileZ, October 6, 2011 at 6:31 pm Link to this comment

RE Hedges/Occupy Wall Street.

It is amazing to see what can happen at a protest if a small group of “anarchists” in all black DOES NOT show up and start smashing things up.

Insightful commentary by Mr. Hedges.

This is a unique event in many many ways.

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By Carson, October 6, 2011 at 3:51 pm Link to this comment

The reason for Occupy Wall Street and the 99% er’s. Gaze upon it if you dare.

Maybe this will help make the danger of fiat money clear.

Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world’s wealth. Each one of us has one SUPER Dollar in front of him.

You own half of everything and so do I.

I’m the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.

You’re not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars to manipulate you with.

All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world!

That isn’t the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because YOU’VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED.

That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can’t keep up with the fake money presses.

http://photos.imageevent.com/stokeybob/followthemoney/Supersingle640x537.jpg

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By christian96, October 6, 2011 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment

Well, after reading a few comments, maybe Dennis is
like other politicans.  All smoke(talk) and no
fire(action.)  I guess God is going to have to
search for 10 good people on Capitol Hill instead
of 9.  I hope you people know what you are talking
about.

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By MK77, October 6, 2011 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

Dennis,
Why did you, a so-called single-payer advocate, vote for the Corporate Healthcare Bill?

You know, the one that forces everybody in the country to give their hard-earned money to insurance companies like Aetna—the one that doesn’t even have an anemic public option?

Talk is cheap. When the chips were down, you cast your lot with the corporations just like everybody else in Washington.

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By Jason Pacifico, October 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment

Where is—- Congressman Kucinich—(1)  a Guarantee Jobs Bill, (2)a new minimum wage of $15.40 an hour ($32,000. a year), (3) a Marxist “wage multiplier,” as the Banks and Wall Street have “30 to 1 banking multipliers”—$100. in deposits creates $3000 for the banks.(4) Wage multipliers, for example, of 8 to 1 ,  the employers like Wal-Mart only need to put in $4000. in their payroll account which multipliers to create the $32,000 in their payroll account for the yearly jobs. ..

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By christian96, October 6, 2011 at 11:41 am Link to this comment

I was thinking about Sodom and Gomorrah this morning.
God told Abraham that he would spare them if he could find 10 good people.  He couldn’t and they
were destroyed.  Could God find 10 good people on
Capitol Hill?  I think Dennis Kucinich would be one.
Could God find 9 more?

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By Artsy, October 6, 2011 at 11:37 am Link to this comment

Dennis and Chris are 2 of my favorite people on this planet. Thank you both for all that you do!

....Add Ron Paul to the mix who gets very little media attention and we have 3 strikes against the other side! We need 3 strikes to get one corporate con out!

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By christian96, October 6, 2011 at 11:35 am Link to this comment

This morning I was thinking about Sodom and Gomorrah.
God told Abraham he would spare them if he could
find 10 good people.  Obviously, he couldn’t and
they were destroyed.  What if God made the same
offer today about people on Capitol Hill?  Could
God find 10?  I think Dennis Kucinich would be one.
Could God find 9 more?

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By Basoflakes, October 6, 2011 at 10:33 am Link to this comment

The solution to America’s problem begins with the elimination of unlimited private funding of candidates and the resulting influence of lobbyists and corporatocracy.  This can be done by two simple ideas - public funded elections and written platforms.

Without elections that are bought and paid for by Wall Street, Corporate America, and the wealthy, we can return to a democracy by the people.  Without it, we will linger in a purgatory of our current system.

What do we learn from the Trillions spent by candidates on their elections and the ‘debates’ - nothing but flip-flopping drivel.  Instead of spending all that money, bring back the idea of a platform.  Candidates establish their goals in a written platform, and reduce their time on air to answering questions about that platform.

Simple, straight to the point, non-refutable, unwielding, and truthful - but especially, innexpensive and democratic - likely the reason no existing Congressman, Senator or President would go for it.

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By Artsy, October 6, 2011 at 9:54 am Link to this comment

Hooray for the protesters! I seriously hope we grow into the millions.

We are suffering under the rule of an antagonistic Government and big business. This is not new or due to this President alone - many before have contributed to our slated demise. They are intent on taking away our rights and running the world. They need to be stopped in their tracks because that is not their job. The bail-outs were WRONG and the lack of regard for the Constitution is also WRONG. The criminals who ignore it should be arrested and imprisoned for treason against the American people.

The corporate war mongers force unjust wars on us and the people who live in them are a disgrace. They have instigated the aggression towards our country and they are effectively breaking us economically. Our honored soldiers are forced to risk life and limb for BIG BUSINESS, not us. The White House, administration, Senate, Congress and corporate lobbiests allow for this corrupt police state and fraudulent media conglomerates keep it moving ahead. The military / industrial complex must fail or our country is done.

“We the people” want our country back and since peaceful protest is our only means to maintain our freedom, we MUST support them and join them if possible. There is no other way.

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By Trish Roberts, October 6, 2011 at 8:25 am Link to this comment
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Thank you Dennis and Chris

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By MycallMcb, October 6, 2011 at 8:20 am Link to this comment

>Dennis you have the right questions and the best answers I’ve heard….please run for president, we need an alternative to corporate plutocracy…

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