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Dan Savage: ‘It Gets Better,’ but It’s Still Tough for GLBTs

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Posted on Nov 24, 2010
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Sex columnist Dan Savage, creator of the “It Gets Better” campaign to help gay youth through tough transitions, is pretty patient with CNN’s Kyra Phillips as he discusses the still very real threat of hate speech and hate crimes targeting the GLBT community despite Americans’ enduring fondness for Ellen DeGeneres.  —KA

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By Rudolfo, November 27, 2010 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment

Zionists are pushing ‘hate crime’ laws worldwide to be able to control speech and thought .... This is from Ireland 1989 ‘prohibition of incitement to hate law’, even the name of the law, ‘incitement to hate’ is Orwellian ...


(1) It shall be an offence for a person—
( a ) to publish or distribute written material,
( b ) to use words, behave or display written material—
(i) in any place other than inside a private residence, or
(ii) inside a private residence so that the words, behaviour or material are heard or seen by persons outside the residence,
or
( c ) to distribute, show or play a recording of visual images or sounds, if the written material, words, behaviour, visual images or sounds, as the case may be, are threatening, abusive or insulting and are intended or, having regard to all the circumstances, are likely to stir up hatred.

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By reynolds, November 26, 2010 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment

art warrior; your use of semi quotes seems intended
to diminish the weight of words, or to distance
yourself from the notion that words have weight- and
yet you have plenty of them on the subject.
certain verbal expressions rise to the level of
incitement. the espousal of hatred can meet the
legal definition of assault, the threat of violence.
battery is following through with the threat.
thought crimes are one thing, verbal threats,
harassment, intimidation another.
if you don’t think words have weight, consider the
advertising budget of just proctor and gamble.
if you think language innocuous, read edward
bernays, or josef goebbels.
to single out any demographic as more or less intent
on their safe passage through society is to miss the
point; we’re all in it together. like it, or don’t
like it. i don’t like it- and, dan savage is not the
spokesmodel for gaydom. packaging, or identifying
groups of people by acronym is pandering and
dismissive. it’s obnoxious.

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By Gmonst, November 26, 2010 at 1:30 pm Link to this comment

art guerrilla,

I think you may be misunderstanding what hate-crime laws are about.  They do not outlaw the emotion of hate, but are focused on physical acts of violence or intimidation instigated on another person because of beliefs about race or sexual orientation.

People do have the right to hate inside themselves, but when they are motivated by that hate to hurt others, to try and make a group afraid for their safety, then they are committing a crime.  Even if they are instigating others to such acts without physically participating themselves.  It is a different crime and there very well be circumstances where no other crime can be used to prosecute someone who is engaging in some form of fear and intimidation.

I think these laws are acceptable, they send a message that we as a society will not tolerate groups being singled out for violence, harassment, and intimidation simply for being who they are.  It doesn’t matter if its because of race, ethnicity, or sexual orientation.  In America you have a right to be free and live life the same as everyone else without being subject to fear and intimidation through violence or other means.

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By art guerrilla, November 25, 2010 at 7:35 pm Link to this comment
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do not support ‘hate crimes’ laws as a matter of
principle and practicality…

NO ONE can -or SHOULD- try to ‘outlaw’ hate; just what
the fuck does that mean anyway… 
as i’ve said before: IF we are free (we are not, but
let’s pwetend), THEN we should be free to ‘hate’...

as LONG AS a person’s ‘hate’ is not expressed by assaults
or other illegal actions, IT SHOULD BE THEIR RIGHT to
‘hate’...  who the fuck cares what they think/hate…

otherwise, why isn’t it then ‘just’ to have a hate-law
against the people who promote hate laws ? ? ?  isn’t
that a form of ‘hate’ on haters ? ? ?
...OR ANYTHING a majority of idiots decide is
‘hateworthy’...

what next, mandatory ‘love laws’...

no, these thought-crimes laws are bullshit, and while it
may make gays, etc all empowered and righteous and shit,
it is a BAD PRINCIPLE to impose on society…

i disagree 100% with all these ‘hate laws’; the problem
is that the people assigned to enforce laws, WILL NOT use
existing laws, etc to prosecute against these types of
crimes…

thus, these thought-crime laws exist to ‘force’ cops,
DA’s, etc to use these highly specific (and highly
suspect) laws to do what will not otherwise be properly
done…

that is the fault of The System, NOT the inadequacy of
laws…

art guerrilla
aka ann archy
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By Lindsay Chambers, November 25, 2010 at 3:00 am Link to this comment
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Why won’t Dan Savage support my site in 2nd life?

we share the same goals

and I have a deadline

Don’t leave me hangin’ Dan

peace
L

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