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‘Daily Show’: Stewart Takes a Whoopin’ Over Rally

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Posted on Nov 9, 2010
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It seems as though some of Jon Stewart’s news and/or comedy colleagues from the wild world of cable TV didn’t buy into “The Daily Show” host’s recent sanity rally in Washington. Here, Stewart takes some hits from Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann before sticking up for his cause, sort of.  —KA

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By TheEnd, November 12, 2010 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment
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Just another perfect example of what Democrats do best: infighting.  And no, the rift between Tea Party and GOProper doesn’t weigh nearly as much in terms of pushing an agenda as does this Blue Dog/Progressive battle. When conservatives go crazy they generally still vote Republican.  When liberals go crazy, they vote Green, Peace and Freedom, etc. or they don’t vote at all.  No point here, really.  Just a good ols fashioned rant. - TheEnd

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By COinMS, November 11, 2010 at 2:23 pm Link to this comment

or COin MS:  A reminder:  The coming “controversy” is not going to be much fun
for millions of innocent (more or less) people!<<

I meant that Jon should not shy away from confronting war mongers or predatory
capitalists because it would be controversial. I meant that he should actually used his
wit to cut the bull from their obfuscating comments and reveal the true motive
underneath.
But that’s expecting too much from a comedian. Our news media should do that
but it’s corporate owned, so not much help in that regard.

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By RuthAlice Anderson, November 11, 2010 at 4:08 am Link to this comment
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Jon Stewart is a joy to watch 80% of the time and with television nowadays, that’s
pretty good. Yes, I want to tear my hair out when he bashes unions, when he
blames Democrats for Republican filibusters, and when he works overtime to find
balance to criticize the left and right equally. But he is an entertainer and wants
red audiences as well as blue ones.

Besides, his politics are rather facile. He’s more or less on the side of safety nets
and tolerance, but he’s never shown a burning passion for justice, just a decent
amount of compassion and belief in the common good - so long as it doesn’t go
too far.

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By Anarcissie, November 10, 2010 at 10:50 pm Link to this comment

Actually, I don’t care about the balance or lack of it.  I’m curious about those ‘Marxists actively subverting our constitution.’

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By anmlsrule, November 10, 2010 at 10:27 pm Link to this comment
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@Tesla - are you kidding?  That kind of thinking is exactly why Stewart and Colbert felt they had to do this rally in the first place.  What exactly is a “true Liberal”?  I’ve known some Liberals to be hypocritical, racist, selectively compassionate, yet they consider themselves “true Liberals”.

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By anmlsrule, November 10, 2010 at 10:22 pm Link to this comment
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@Anarcissie - maybe what he meant was how lately freedom of speech seems to be lost on the left?  You can’t say anything without being fired these days.  Juan Williams anyone?

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By Tesla, November 10, 2010 at 10:10 pm Link to this comment

I have always enjoyed John Stewart, but his pathetic “can’t
we all just get along rally” was a true disappointment and
has made me reappraise his value as a true liberal.

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By gerard, November 10, 2010 at 7:48 pm Link to this comment

Well, folks, we can parse the Colbert/Stewart Rally till hell freezes over and still differ.  It was far from an ideal political rally.  The question is, was it supposed to be?  Should it have been?  Maybe. Maybe not. Was it all bad? No.  Was it all good? No.
Was it the way you or I might have wanted it ideally? No.  Did it bring a lot of non-TeaParty people out with an attitude somewhat short of either “Doomstay!”  or “Socialism.”  Yes.  Could you or your friends have done any better?  Probably not.

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By Anarcissie, November 10, 2010 at 3:49 pm Link to this comment

The following excerpt is from an article by William Blum is from CounterPunch.org.  It expresses many things I myself might say about this rally.

Stewart in fact appears to dislike the left, perhaps strongly. In the lead-up to the rally he criticized the left for various things, including calling George W. Bush a “war criminal”. Wow! How immoderate of us. Do I have to list here the 500 war crimes committed by George W. Bush? If I did so, would that make me one of what Stewart calls the “crazies”? In his talk at the rally, Stewart spoke of our “real fears” — “of terrorists, racists, Stalinists, and theocrats”.  Stalinists? Where did that come from, Glenn Beck? What decade is Stewart living in? What about capitalists or the corporations? Is there no reason to fear them? Is it Stalinists who are responsible for the collapse of our jobs and homes, our economy?

Stewart also grouped together “Marxists actively subverting our constitution, racists and homophobes”. Welcome to the Jon Stewart Tea Party. In his long interview last week of President Obama on his TV show, Stewart did not mention any of America’s wars. That would have been impolite and divisive; maybe even not nice.

In any case, can someone tell me what on earth Stewart was referring to with ‘Marxists actively subverting our constitution’?  Where?  Are they under the bed with the dust bunnies?

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By Clash, November 10, 2010 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment

The propaganda machine, always on, mostly fiction,  with some facts inserted, that support only the common goals for control of the populace. The proliferation of the noble lie by dramatizing the concerns of of corporate controllers who facilitate the these thespian pun-dents.

The empire still trying to maintain the Grand Area,  continues to waste time and resources, while the obscenely rich continue to dismantle and destroy and control. Wake up, the people named in this article are paid well to repeat their lines, lines who’s content that in the end is ultimately controlled by those who pay them.

Our media only mimics good guys and bad guys, a play that has been used many times before. But if one likes to have others think and speak for them, then enjoy.

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By Gmonst, November 10, 2010 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment

Well I thought the rally was about something.  I thought it was about bringing decency, truth, and honor back to the public discourse.  Remembering that we are all Americans, and we’re supposed to be on the same team.  Even if we disagree we should remember that those with whom we are disagreeing are usually good decent people.  We can disagree but still respect.  Its respect and decency which will allow us to work together.  The oligarchy doesn’t like people undivided being respectful, but keeps us in small groups mistrustful of others.  It fosters chaos.  I thought the rally was a voice in the chaos calling for respect and togetherness.  That I feel was a worthy reason for the rally. 

The rally also called out the media on a number of points. Most notably the use of fear and manipulation to keep people watching at the expense of actually informing the public on important topics.  If MSNBC fits that bill then so be it. Even my local news does it.  Its sensation over and above information. Hollow and without substance, it is a sad indictment of the media when comedy shows are becoming more truthful and informing than actual news shows.

I only recall Olbermann being mentioned once in a list of tv hosts who use fear and hyperbole, I don’t recall a mention of Maddow any other mention of MSNBC, or any conflating them with Fox.  Quite frankly, as much as I like Olbermann, he can be a little hyperbolic and does veer into being over the top with his characterizations.  Even the response from Maddow and Olbermann was a little bit overly sensitive, which I thought just demonstrates the hyperbole which characterizes their shows.

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By gerard, November 10, 2010 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment

I am writing this before watching the video:

For COin MS:  A reminder:  The coming “controversy” is not going to be much fun for millions of innocent (more or less) people!

Robespierre115:  “Common sense and Energy for what?”
Well for one thing, stop warring and stop starving Third World babies, and stop millionaires giving each other huge bonuses. They just don’t know how to stop such gross crimes against humanity.  Do you?
Perhaps you are part of the “latent creativity. The moment that creativity (and sense of balance) disappears) and is replaced by bombast and a fierce desire to “kill the bastards”, America is all the way down the drain.

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By COinMS, November 10, 2010 at 10:28 am Link to this comment

Since the time change, I don’t watch the Daily Show because it is on too late. And I too am put off by the false equivalency between the (tattered) Left and the (on steroids) Right.
I also cringe when Jon has right wingers on and basically lobs them softballs. I understand his show is ‘fake news’ so he gives ‘fake interviews’ many times.
To his credit, he has done some good interviews. But for the most part, he cozies up to these guys and avoids controversy.
Come on Jon, controversy is funny!

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By ardee, November 10, 2010 at 8:02 am Link to this comment

I thank gerard for being a voice crying out for sanity in the wilderness of criticisms of a guy who DID SOMETHING. I suspect that the great majority of these critics have never done anything.

For Mr. Scheer:

Perhaps the people to whom Stewart referred to as “moderates on the other side” are not members of the Republican Party but are voters who might be swayed if another Party out there had a spine and the intellect to stand up and be counted on the issues. Sure wish there was such a Party…...

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By RanDomino, November 9, 2010 at 10:30 pm Link to this comment
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Stewart not only failed to respond to the criticisms of false equivalence, he reiterated his non-point.

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By Robespierre115, November 9, 2010 at 9:46 pm Link to this comment

@Gerard, “common sense and energy”? For what? Just for the hell of it? People like Stewart will be standing around with idiotic smiles which will go away when black shirts bash their faces in with nightsticks.

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By gerard, November 9, 2010 at 9:10 pm Link to this comment

I have a feeling that people who criticized and are still minimizing the Stewart/Colbert Rally have lost balance temporarily and are leaning too far over on the hopeless side.  Sure our situation is serious, and sure there’s no organized movement suggesting a rational cure or cures.  But I’m thankful for such a huge demonstration of common sense and energy.
  The variety of sign messages is a clear indication of latent creative abilities by the thousands.  My favorite—“Time To Take Our Country Forward”. To see the variety, go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyPAcRS6t6A and be sure to see wjmears video under head “Signs from the Sanity Rally.”
  A healthy contrast to the Beck Rally, and obvious to tens of thousands of watchers at home. Sure, it was not a movement—but I don’t see anyone on the scene yet who is clear on how to organize a movement, how to direct it, how to state a practical objective etc. etc.

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By DavidByron, November 9, 2010 at 7:47 pm Link to this comment

The more you think about it the worse the rally seems to get.

Stewart mounts no serious defence against his critics in this piece.  Will he in a more appropriate medium such as on Rachel Maddow’s show, Thursday evening?  The hint of an answer here is a strawman.

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By Robespierre115, November 9, 2010 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment

Stewart had nothing to say here (or at the rally) and just exposes himself as exactly what he is, just a comedian who reduces his political arguments to the level of a videogame. All the commentators who mocked here sounded quite sane, more sane than Stewart’s rants at the rally about “Stalinists” subverting the constitution.

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By Peter Z. Scheer, November 9, 2010 at 4:45 pm Link to this comment

Isn’t Stewart the sort of watchdog who normally
condemns this kind of selective editing? I’m not
surprised that he failed to air his critics’ more
compelling arguments. He collects four or so shots of
Maher, for example, saying absolutely nothing. Here’s
is a little more of what the “Real Time” host said,
quoted by the Huffington Post:

“The message of the rally, as I heard it, was that if
the media stopped giving voice to the crazies on both
sides, then maybe we could restore sanity. It was all
nonpartisan and urged cooperation with the moderates
on the other side forgetting that Obama tried that
and found out…there are no moderates on the other
side. When Jon announced his rally, he said the
national conversation was dominated by people on the
Right who believe Obama’s a Socialist and people on
the Left who believe 9/11’s an inside job, but I
can’t name any Democratic leaders who think 9/11’s an
inside job. But Republican leaders who think Obama’s
a Socialist? All of them.”

However Stewart saw his rally, it rubbed some of his
biggest fans the wrong way and this defensive non-
apology ranks with Lebron James’ “What should I do?”
Nike commercial.

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