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Posted on Aug 3, 2011

The Truthdig columnist pledges to join others in acts of civil disobedience and nonviolent protest in Washington on Oct. 6,  because, among other reasons, “we don’t have much time left.”

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By jeff woodhouse, September 22, 2011 at 8:01 pm Link to this comment
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Cant help myself, If Dick Cheney ae’nt the Grinch who
bombed Who’ville, then I ae’nt a disgruntled American!
I mean come on, he was the neighbor we all had who
would steal our basketballs, footballs, ect…when they
came in his yard! Seriously, PROSECUTE HIM! NYPD,NYFD,
SHAME ON YOU!  DEMAND INVESTIGATION! 10x more evidence
against BUSH and his cronies, then TROY DAVIS! HONOR UR
FALLEN,NOT DISGRACE THEM! PATRIOTS MY ASS!

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By jeff woodhouse, September 22, 2011 at 6:49 pm Link to this comment
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OK one more, and i will be fair. Eric Cantnor, i
believe his name. I know him,and so do you, he is the
kid that always smelled like pee in elementary school.
See, told u that u would recall him. Also,Pelosi, heard
she under Dr. restrictions, advised not to smile for a
week, cause her face might shatter like a glass doll! I
am so sorry world! I swear i never voted for a freak
show 1!

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By jeff woodhouse, September 22, 2011 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment
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How about John Boehner?  Is he for real, or is it some
kinda joke? A man his age tanning like snookie, from
Jersey. I apologize world, that sissy boy represents me
0 percent! Grown American men dont act like women! It’s
like a comedy act or something, I mean this is a joke
is’nt it?  LOL!

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By jeff woodhouse, September 21, 2011 at 11:26 pm Link to this comment
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Every corporation in u.s.a.is guilty of treason! There
stockpiles of cash came off the back of u.s. workers! I
ask u, where are they now? The housing bubble was a
scam! I smelled rotten 3 years b4 bust! Housing equity
was only thing kept our economy afloat,oh sorry, 9-11
cover-up got us some good war income, I mean Dick
Cheney some good income! WAR CRIMINAL! U.S.A. rulers,
swindlers of ancient Rome! U.S.A.=corporations=Wall
Street, their all hand in hand you damned fools!

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By jeff woodhouse, September 21, 2011 at 11:08 pm Link to this comment
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Someone posted that Chris is not a believer. Calling
all rebels on link-tv was a true Christian message!
When the world is offended by Truth,then u know it’s
God’s Truth! I will find out Oct.6. Bible assures u the
world will absolutely reject Christian TRUTH, and he
touches on complete truth! My opinion, U.S.A. is the
worst plague to ever come to this earth! Biggest
hypocrites to true God that ever walked face of earth!
Evil men always hid behind cloak of True God, and I am
very confident we are Babylon of Revelations! And guess
what, dont care what the deceived think or say!

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By loc, September 18, 2011 at 2:17 pm Link to this comment
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For anyone here who lives to have a go at Chris Hedges,
at least give the guy credit for trying to do
something. Also, for those of you who hate him for
being well off, let’s assume that he is lucky enough to
be set for life. Do I detect some jealousy there?

It’s like what John Lennon used to say about activism
for peace. If you think you can do better than me, then
do it. Let’s keep the game going trying to top each
other.

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By Jay, September 12, 2011 at 1:19 pm Link to this comment
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Mr. Hedges, I think it is futile and hypocritical to travel across the country courtesy of petroleum products to stand in solidarity photo opps with others of like mind. 

Stay home and work on the solution. Study up and support proven alternatives to gasoline!

Otherwise, all you’re doing is driving the fossil energy problem deeper, and lending credence to a protest effort that is as ineffective as it is sadly misguided.

http://www.biorootenergy.com/2011/09/01/good-little-hypocrites/

On behalf of the planet, thanks!

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By katsteevns, September 8, 2011 at 9:10 am Link to this comment

So then, go forth my troubled rebels, and do what is right; martre yourselves for your brother and win the battles. Nothing less is expected from those who believe in love and in its power. But don’t fool yourself into thinking the entire war can be won by man alone because the disease is not from without, but from within. And only when the sickness is fully purged will the suffering stop, and only one who can stop it, Jesus Christ. Heed the fate of Babylon, so many times destroyed. And forget not that Satan was the highest ranking angel, a mirror image of righteousness.
    Go into the fire, but don’t follow anyone who will obtain the best treatment, the best lawyer, the cleanest cell. Don’t follow those who think man is a god unto himself. Though that tree yields sweet beautiful fruit, it does not sustain the soul.

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By katsteevns, September 8, 2011 at 3:56 am Link to this comment

When we can finally see, touch and taste the high walls - pushing their way up from the already red soil like daisy’s - that separate “the few” from “the many”, will there finally be a mass awakening or movement large enough, brave enough, strong enough, informed enough to take back what is rightfully ours? Will we take our empty stomachs and our posterity to the streets?
  No, not if Winston Smith is any indication. Even as early as today, in the minds of most Americans, 2 + 2 DOES equal 5.

Chris Hedges proudly proclaims there is no evidence that Jesus Christ ever walked the earth.
And this is JC’s answer to that in Matthew 12:

38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”

39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.”

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By katsteevns, August 26, 2011 at 1:58 am Link to this comment

Do you really think you will make a difference? Do you really think you can bring down or change the mindset of these huge conglomerates? Do you really think that effective nonviolent civil disobedience will not trigger a sustained violent response from the powers that be until they run out of bullets?
  Hello!! There aren’t enough people who are awake to the problem to make a difference. Most prefer to REMAIN asleep. The status quo is God. You and yours will be crushed as the Black Panthers were crushed, as the Sandinista s were crushed, as Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos were crushed, as the Communist countries were crushed, as Panama, Chile, Nicaragua, etc, were crushed, as Africa was crushed. As the peace loving people of this nation ALLOWED them to be crushed, sat back and WATCHED with glee.
  But thanks to a high grade education and a career at the New York Times, you are set financially…no worries in that department, huh?  Must be nice. Plenty of time to make picket signs and skip around the country playing bad-ass?
  You conformed and ran with the pack just long enough to set yourself up. Wish I’d have conformed to the system for some 40 years, I’d be set up too!!
  Hope my ass!! The only reason YOU have hope is because ultimately, it pays your bills. And, my friend, this is the crime you commit against your readers.

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By secgar, August 14, 2011 at 11:06 am Link to this comment

Thank you Chris.  Having lived in South America for 13 years I have seen first-hand the effects of the Fascism of the rich as well as the abuse of people and natural resources by Multinational Corporations. The US is becoming a bizarre mutation of a 3rd world country.  I am very scared for the future of the people of this country. Thank you for your courage to speak the truth.  Let’s take this to the streets.  The Left needs to reconnect with the working class and under educated.

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By U.S. Citizen, August 10, 2011 at 10:58 pm Link to this comment
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Hedges gets it right.  The corporatization of America and The Second Gilded Age are bipartisan efforts.  We must put pressure on the Corpocrats and Republicorps to stop putting corporate profits over the public good.  We need democracy, not corporatocracy.

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By Bob, August 8, 2011 at 7:20 am Link to this comment
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Anyone who accepts any degree of injustice without complaint or protest is a moral coward.

Acceptance of injustice is complicity, to whatever small degree, with evil as we know it.

Resignation in the face of evil is to become something less than human.

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By Tuscany, August 8, 2011 at 3:31 am Link to this comment
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Why do people assume that Walmart is cheaper?
I recently priced 16.9 fluid ozs of Newman’s Own Organic Extra Virgin Olive Oil:

Sprouts——$10.17
Whole Foods- $9.99
Walmart——$14.69

How’s that for saving at Walmart.

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By Not One More!, August 6, 2011 at 11:40 pm Link to this comment

From the Constitution of Independence:

“We hold these truths to be self evident, That all men are created equal, That they are endowed by their creator, With certain unalienable rights to. Life, Liberty , and the Pursuit of Happiness, That to secure these rights, Governments are formed , But whenever any form of government, Becomes destructive, It is the Right of the People, It is their Duty, To throw off such government”

And reread the last line.

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By citizen477, August 6, 2011 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment

NewOrleansFreethinker,
Part of being mature is accepting what is happening
to you and your society, even though it may be
uncomfortable or down-right depressing. Chris Hedges
is not a pastor, minister, politician or motivational
speaker. As a contemporary philosopher and thinker,
his job is to be the harbinger for our society. 

It seems to me that you have been listening or
viewing his lectures, speeches and interviews with a
tainted eye because in every instance, he has laid
out evidence of what he deems to be an unraveling of
American society. Additionally, he has published many
books that delve deeper into the issues. In fact, in
many of his published works and articles, he provides
solutions and ways that the average citizen can act
to make our county sound again—a step that
philosophers really do not have to take.

I strongly encourage you to take a second look at his
many interviews, appearances, lectures, articles and
books and compare his views in kind with those of Noam Chomsky,
Chalmers Johnson, Sheldon Wolin and others, and you
will see that he is not just an isolated John-the-
Baptist-Crying-Out-in-the-Wilderness figure.

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By Jay Ell, August 6, 2011 at 5:44 am Link to this comment
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See you there Chris!

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By EmileZ, August 6, 2011 at 2:56 am Link to this comment

Pithy and well spoken.

@ By Frank I thought this was intended to be a sustained act of protest, in any case, I agree. In any case, protests can not be sustained for long in this country. It would have to literally spontaneously erupt. It has to connect to enough people. Perhaps this could be a start. You’ve got to start somewhere.

P.S. I really don’t understand why people might think Mr. Hedges depises atheists. His argument, it appears to me, is directed towards people who depise theists, people of faith, etc. I am an atheist myself. If you cannot see the value of religion I can see how you may take offense. I suggest you look at religious people like Aristide and Martin Luther King, not just the ones you despise (and there are many who are unforgivably despicable).

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By gerard, August 5, 2011 at 10:11 am Link to this comment

Robespierre:  Regarding the uprising in Egypt:  “Intense street battles”?  Not exactly!
      “feel-good mumbo jumbo”?  Not that either.

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By americaussie, August 4, 2011 at 7:11 pm Link to this comment

@NewOrleansFreethinker: so, walmart good, muslims bad ... thanks for sharing.

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By NewOrleansFreethinker, August 4, 2011 at 6:54 pm Link to this comment
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kerryrose

Wal-Mart generally pays a bit better than minimum wage and offers goods at lower prices than its competitors.  You are correct at guessing that I’m no neurosurgeon, but I have a few friends that are.  I also have friends that work at Wal-Mart; do you think that they would be neurosurgeons if they weren’t so encumbered by the shackles of Wal-Mart employment? I don’t. I think they would probably work at Target instead.

It is true that without social welfare programs, it would be very difficult to raise a family of four on an entry-level Wal-Mart salary.  I certainly wouldn’t try it.  Instead, I decided to while away my time in medical school, and maybe I’ll have some kids when I can afford them.  Perhaps that’s the cure to poverty?  Nah, I suppose it’s easier to blame the company that actually gives jobs to more people than any other company in America!  In the meantime, I’m afraid I’ll have to do my shopping at Wal-Mart, where I can actually afford stuff, even if it’s not as trendy as Whole Paycheck (and please don’t cry me a river about poor mistreated cows and so forth; I don’t eat meat).

I feel pretty confident that if I were working at Wal-Mart right now and feeling particularly industrious, I could work hard enough to likely pay for a car, a shared apartment with air conditioning, and an iphone (luxuries beyond the wildest imaginations of anyone living a century ago), but certainly would never have to worry about having enough to eat or clean water to drink (and Hedges says that human progress is a myth!!!)

If those laborers in Chinese factories weren’t making products for Wal-Mart, then they would be doing even worse work for even lower wages.  If Wal-Mart could save money by boycotting the Chinese, they’d do so in a heartbeat.  The Chinese have a different understanding of poverty from ours, and to pretend that we can insulate ourselves from the developing world, which is a lot poorer than we like to think about, is ridiculous. 

As horrible as it is to contemplate, those thousands of nimble-fingered Chinese slaving away in factories just to try to get enough food to go along with their dysentery-infested water to survive are actually serving us, because we just so happen to have been born in the right country.  It’s a mutually beneficial relationship, and it’s not the fault of American corporations.

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By kerryrose, August 4, 2011 at 5:53 pm Link to this comment

NewOrleansFreethinker

Walmart is the largest employer in the country, and they underpay and undercompensate their employees. Walmart is partially responsible for creating an underclass that can barely afford to shop at the store where they work.  They also import almost solely from China and are partially responsible for the decline in manufacturing in this country.

You are definitely not a brain surgeon.

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By Peter Knopfler, August 4, 2011 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment

Thank YOU CHRIS AND TO ADD 6+6=dirty dozen is the
SUPER CONGRESS. The Super Congress takes the place of
the Congress. Dictator takes the place of the Central
Committee=Super Congress.
Sounds too Familiar.. Letter 1903, Trotsky to Lenin=
“The organization of the Party takes the place of the
party itself;the central committee takes the place of
the organization, And finally the dictator takes the
place of the central committee.
Trotsky later writes “No constitutional safeguards
are needed.”  Lenin carried a “NARODNIK” argument
into Russian Marxism.

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By NewOrleansFreethinker, August 4, 2011 at 2:43 pm Link to this comment
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I’m shocked that anyone can take this guy seriously.  I’ve now seen several of his diatribes, debates, and interviews, and I’m convinced that all he is capable of is squinting into the camera and spitting out a series of ill-worded hyperboles.  America, capitalism, atheism, and Christian fundamentalism can be blamed for all of the world’s problems, right?  Don’t bother developing those ideas.  It’s better to speak in generalities and say the same thing ten different ways without citing any actual facts.  And no need for your drivel to correspond with reality in any way.  Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go throw my body (the last thing I’ve got!) in front of the local Wal-Mart (you know, the store that probably overcompensates its employees and makes goods affordable for millions of underprivileged Americans and upon which the lower classes are heavily dependent) before it’s too late!!! AHHHHHH!!!!!!!  Fire and brimstone, Dies Irae, IDEOLOGY CORPORATISM IMPERIALISM NEOFEUDALISM!!!!  I’m MAAAAAAAD at everyone who’s different from me!!!!!  Americans are to blame for terrorism!  Atheists are to blame for terrorism!  Corporations are to blame for terrorism!  Muslim perpetrators of terrorism are NOT to blame for terrorism!!!!!  Can I have another Pulitzer yet?

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By gerard, August 4, 2011 at 2:36 pm Link to this comment

Robespierre above has been leaning toward blood for some time here on TD.  If blood would create humane societies it would have happened long ago.

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By Robespierre115, August 4, 2011 at 2:04 pm Link to this comment

We need full, revolutionary action. Post-modernist, San Francisco Buddhist types can yap about “spiritual change,” but in Egypt Mubarak was overthrown with intense street battles, right now in Chile students and teachers are setting up barricades and taking on the state in the streets of Santiago and in Greece the people refuse to surrender and set Athens aflame. If you just want to cater to feel good mumbo jumbo then you’re obviously not suffering. The power elite is quite happy just letting you vent.

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By gerard, August 4, 2011 at 10:57 am Link to this comment

Couple of thoughts:
  1.  “The last thin line of defense”?  (expresses insuffuciency, ineffectiveness, desperation. Better
present the facts—that we, the people, acting together in civil disobedience,and using a power deeper than force, can be the stronger of the two—if and when we so choose! If and when we understand what we are doing and how to do it, and most important, why we do it that way.
  2. “Using our bodies”?  It’s really about using our souls, our spirits, our morality, truth and courage to stand against violence and exploitation.  Civil disobedience with soul is unbeatable because the soul is strengthened in right action rightfully performed. Spirit lives!
  3. The lengths to which power will go to try to put down spirit is an indication of the degree to which power fears spirit. Nobody ho-hummed Martin Luther King.  On the contrary, someone assassinated him. And yet ... his spirit is alive and well.
  That’s hard to wrap your mind around without a whole lot of spiritual exercise and faithful commitment to humane values.

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By George, August 4, 2011 at 10:02 am Link to this comment
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@kerryrose—here is a link describing what the event is about and has a list of the many prominent activists (and others)who will attend and the groups that endorse this event.

http://october2011.org/welcome

I’ve already bought my plane tickets.

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By Frank, August 4, 2011 at 7:26 am Link to this comment
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I wish Chris and everybody else well, but we need
sustained acts of protest, not one day excursions that
end up being more about hanging out with your cool
liberal friends than anything politically meaningful.
Madison Wisconsin provided a good template for this.

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By kerryrose, August 4, 2011 at 3:47 am Link to this comment

I love Chris Hedges.  What is the overriding issue of Oct 6th?  Bill McKibben is organizing a protest throughout August to urge Obama not to sign the Keystone XL Pipeline agreement which allows the oil companies to build a pipeline from Northern Alberta to Texas.(???)

The pipeline will carry sludge from the Tar Sands.  Check out the Tar Sands, you will be horrified.  Indigenous people have had their sacred lands violated including non-human life.  The Boreal forest in Alberta is being clear-cut.

I will be in DC from Aug 27-29 (and probably in jail one of those days).  I am filming the protest and hopefully getting some good interviews.  I am just wondering if Hedges protest is a generic ‘You suck’ protest or one that addresses a particular issue.

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By myko, August 4, 2011 at 1:03 am Link to this comment
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who picked a weekday?

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By tom rogers, August 4, 2011 at 12:18 am Link to this comment
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Well, that’s a shame. I do plan to attend, but, as an
atheist, I don’t feel that Mr. Hedges’ bashing me would
be something I’d look forward to.

It’s too bad. I used to like ol’ Chris, until I read
about how much he despises me and other non-believers.

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