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Chris Hedges on ‘The Death of the Liberal Class’

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Posted on Oct 18, 2010

Chris Hedges talks about his new book, how he came to write it, and what we can expect from the collapse of the liberal establishment.

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Chris Hedges on his new book:

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By Lafayette, October 24, 2010 at 6:32 am Link to this comment

THE BINGE IS OVER

Alphy: Vitrually all countries in the EU are now heavily in debt, and the social nets are being eliminated everywhere, sometimes by left, sometimes by right governments.

No, you have got this dead wrong. They are not being eliminated, they are be reduced. Very subtle nuance there.

And when it comes to Social Safety Nets, Europe is still number one compared to a great many other nations on this earth. Including America and the BRICKS.

What would you like, that the EU were beset by a Greek Bankruptcy Crisis as well? Greece’s problem was its persistent budget profligacy, which was somewhat typical of the EU as a whole.

The collective binge is over and the hangover is terrible.

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By ardee, October 22, 2010 at 5:24 am Link to this comment

Thune, October 21 at 4:08 pm

Your remarks suffer from a lack of knowledge or a purposeful ignoring of the statistics showing greater conviction rates and longer sentencing for blacks vs. whites who committed the same crime. The implication of your words fails to consider all the inequities and poverty that lead to hopelessness and crime as well.

Further, in a time when DNA evidence is freeing prisoners faster than juries can convict them ( poetic license), I think you might ponder exactly how impolitic and perhaps even improper your comment was.

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By Alphysicist, October 22, 2010 at 4:24 am Link to this comment

Dear Lafayette,

  Even if you are right regarding the French healthcare system, the signs of the social net being dismantled throughout Europe should be obvious from what is going on in France as I write this comment.  Unfortunately, the anger of the strikers and protesters is to some extent misplaced: it is not Sarkozy who is the main problem (of course he is to be blamed as the one who executes the orders) but the European Union.  Vitrually all countries in the EU are now heavily in debt, and the social nets are being eliminated everywhere, sometimes by left, sometimes by right governments.  Most of the left jumps on the bandwagons against Sarkozy or Berlusconi in Italy, but they do not criticize the EU, which is a holy cow for them.

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By Thune, October 21, 2010 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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I’m sorry Chris, blacks aren’t in prison because they are political prisoners.

They are in prison for stealing cars, beating wives, peddling narcotics, cappin’ people, etc, etc.

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By Lafayette, October 21, 2010 at 10:14 am Link to this comment

gerard: It’s fairly certain that eventually people like us on this site will find others who agree to organize some kind of counter-movement to stand for peace

That is easier said than done.

The Replicants like to sing off the same hymn sheet—for togetherness. Leftists are a ragtag bunch, each with their own agenda—and, consequently, hymn sheet.

There is far more cacophony on the Left than on the Right. Let’s admit this failing and get beyond it.

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By Lafayette, October 21, 2010 at 10:10 am Link to this comment

A PREVAILING POLITICAL WIND

This book was just published and it goes into great detail about when, why, and how the democratic party abandoned the working and middle classes.

Yes, well, to each his/her own notion as to what has happened to Social Democracy in America. And it is not yet another book that is going to get anything done - except stir the fire. And I am not diminishing the contribution of political writers to the debate.

If we really want it, Social Democracy is recoverable. Johnson’s Great Society was a good start, but petered out far too soon. It did not go far enough, because it had no prevailing political wind behind it.

The Dems will bend if there is serious competition from a real, grass-roots force for Social Democracy. If the Replicants can organize the Tea-Party, why can’t the Left organize a Social Democrat faction all by itself. Lord knows the support is out there.

But, getting off your duff and doing it is one helluva lot more difficult than bitching-in-a-blog or even writing a book. It takes time, lots of effort and ingenuity – more so, it requires more than one person. It also takes money.

And, frankly, I doubt anybody even knows where to start. Any political movement needs a magnet - a Charter of First Principles, for instance. Not a list of complaints—complaints are our daily ration.

POST SCRIPTUM

The Left has to come out of the closet into which McCarthy shoved four decades ago. Being a “socialist” does not make one condemned to damnation.

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By Reverend Lee, October 20, 2010 at 5:11 pm Link to this comment
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When I argue with the “liberal class,” who seem to prefer the label progressive, I hear the devolution of all things political and economic into a utilitarian calculus, with the attendant devaluation of all other forms of morality. They abort the very means to speak of commercial societies, when those societies are no longer “embedded” (in Karl Polanyi’s sense) within some larger moral framework. Meanwhile, our society cannibalizes itself.

In our commercial war of all against all, success defines merit. Moral objections are derided as an admission of failure. But the “liberal class” only responds, as Robert Reich does now, with a claim that everyone, rich and poor alike, will enjoy more pie if only we implement a litany of technocratic tweaks. But greater inequality creates greater stature for the winners, as a feature and not a bug, and the successful accept no grounds for reducing their discretion in the organization of society. For the “liberal class” to take you seriously, however, these elementary truths must be denied.

“It is in terms of power,” said Frank Knight, “that competitive economics and the competitive view of life for which it must be largely accountable are to be justified. Whether we are to regard them as justified at all depends on whether we are willing to accept an ethics of power as the basis of our world view.” The “liberal class” are those who hector us to abandon any ethics other than power in the name of “pragmatism.”

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By ardee, October 20, 2010 at 12:46 pm Link to this comment

What a fascinating speech! The “Liberal Class” as an enemy of progress and a tool to be used and channeled. Whether one agrees or disagrees with Hedges at least he makes you think.

gerard

I disagree with your speculation into the inevitability of violence and wonder exactly who would both support violence and have a public discourse about it?

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By gerard, October 20, 2010 at 11:55 am Link to this comment

It’s fairly certain that eventually people like us on this site will find others who agree to organize some kind of counter-movement to stand for peace, justice and common sense—to name three important abstractions sadly lost from view by present U.S. government/business processes.
  Immediately that will require an important decision—violence or nonviolence?  Nobody really wants to choose violence, but it will happen of its own accord not because it is the best way or the only way but because most people don’t know anything about nonviolence—how it works, what is required to use it, how to sustain it, what are the fundamental concepts behind it. 
  Therefore now is the time to look into that subject instead of casting it aside saying “it won’t work” because it just might be the only thing that will work.  Several people have mentioned it. I’ve tried to set forth some principles.  But many more people need to take it seriously and study what it means and how to act nonviolently. (Our society as a whole is pretty much drugged on violence, so it will take some fundamental learning of new ideas and an opening to creative thinking. It’s a far cry from Tea Party tactics and the MIC!
  Though voting’s okay, it’s going to take more participation than that.
  What say?

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, October 20, 2010 at 11:29 am Link to this comment
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WINNER TAKE ALL POLITICS How Washington Made the Rich Richer and Turned its Back on the Middle Class by Jacob S Hacker and Paul Pierson.

This book was just published and it goes into great detail about when, why, and how the democratic party abandoned the working and middle classes.  As it stands now the corporate take over of America is complete.  As Hedges says, the battle is over and we lost.  This book fills in the empty spaces and gives the details on just how they accomplished it.  The authors give some lip service about hope for change at the end of the book.  Like Arianna Huffington in her similar book they feel the need to do some cheerleading at the conclusion, but they lay out a convincing case that the corporate strangle hold on the nation is pretty air-tight.

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By Don Farkas, October 20, 2010 at 9:37 am Link to this comment

Chris, because the description is somewhat vague to me, please better explain what the “Liberal Class” is.  Specifically, and naming some actual names if possible, who are they and what do they currently do?  What should they be doing instead, and by what signs shall we recognize their (or our) potential revival?

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By Lafayette, October 20, 2010 at 8:23 am Link to this comment

alph: The recently introduced visit price of 10 euros also makes difficult the treatment of, for example, homeless persons.  During the world cup a new legislation was passed in Germany, which enables health insurance companies to increase the cost paid by employees.

Yes, yes - but so what?

There is not a health system on earth that is not more and more expensive. Demand of physician services outstrips supply—it is an oligopolistic market which, if left to free enterprise, quickly adopts rent-seeking pricing as it has in the US.

France started with a “ticket moderateur” in the 1950s that required a 5% contribution from the patient. Now we in France must pay 30% for Preventive Medicine (which includes GP visits and various tests.

But the cost of mutualized insurance for that remaining 30% is 100 euros a month. (Equal to 4% of the average french man or woman’s monthly salary.)

Preventive Medicine is kept purposefully inexpensive so that people don’t end up at ER with incurable illnesses because they want to avoid the cost of regular GP visits. A consultation with my GP cost me, out of pocket, 7 euros - about $10. (How much does it cost you? ;^)

As regards Remedial Medicine, if you have any really serious illness, your GP and specialist corroborate the sickness and the treatment prescribed, which the state picks up as cost. Nobody has to sell their house in France to pay for cancer treatment.

Compared to the extravagant mess stateside, here in Europe the National Health Systems constitute a Health Care Nirvana. What’s the difference. The fundamental difference is that HC-costs are mandated by the state in order to keep a cap on this. This measure alone contributes to the fact that HC in the Europe costs one half that, per capita, of the US.

NB: For an independent comparative review of NHS systems see here. Excerpted from that site:

Among the six nations studied—Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States—the U.S. ranks last, as it did in the 2006 and 2004 editions of Mirror, Mirror. Most troubling, the U.S. fails to achieve better health outcomes than the other countries, and as shown in the earlier editions, the U.S. is last on dimensions of access, patient safety, efficiency, and equity. The 2007 edition includes data from the six countries and incorporates patients’ and physicians’ survey results on care experiences and ratings on various dimensions of care.

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By reverento., October 20, 2010 at 5:51 am Link to this comment

Also, His analysis of the mentality behind the christian right, and why they DO embrace apocalyptic notions was spot on, how for them to accept reality would be asking them to accept the very environment that almost killed them.

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By Hank from Nebraska, October 20, 2010 at 5:38 am Link to this comment

So we are all agreed that Hedges is correct.  But what are we going to do? 

I think one of the main reasons why so many people agree with Hedges but then go into a state of self-denial and inaction is that they continue to be co-opted by the two-party system and the “lesser-of-two-evils” myth.  The current Democratic Party is not a solution—the Democrats’ role is to keep us quiet so the corporate interests can increase their wealth and power.  Yes, I know, leaving the Democratic Party will undermine the “lesser of the two evils.”  But Hedges’ message is clear: The Democratic Party is as much to blame for our rightward swing as the Republicans because both work just as hard on behalf of the wealthy interests to put us on the unpalatable route we are on. 

Hasn’t it been amazing how Obama does nothing to really push the progressive agenda but does just enough to keep the left quiet!  So there is no criticism of Obama while the Democrats’ complete and intentional failure to consolidate their political advantage from 2008 now gives the other branch of the duopoly the opening to come back for the final dismantling of our once-progressive state.  Just wait until after the election Obama’s Decific Commission announces the end of Social Security (which is not broken at all) and Medicare (which is to important to not fix), something that the Bush branch of the political duopoly were not able to fool us into going along with.  Don’t forget how it was Obama who stopped the environmental movement dead in tracks last year at Copenhagen, something which Bush could not do in Bali two years of CO2 emissions earlier. 

Like Chris Hedges, I am worried that it is already too late.  We have been fooled into believing the Democratic Party line too long, and we have remained quiet for much too long. 
Since at this point a violent reaction would be welcomed by the corporate political takeover artists because they have the power to severely crush any unorganized anarchistic opposition and can use the attempt to justify further oppression.  Hence, the only realistic route remaining is to get to work and organize an alternative political movement.  Become active in the Green Party, or perhaps a new Green-Left Party along the lines of what we see in Europe.  Revive the labor movement.  Run for office, contribute to those others who do, stage events, and start getting left-leaning people out of their depressed state of self-denial.  We may lose no matter what we do, but life is a whole lot less frustrating if you are active.

Remember, the strategy by the corporate interests is to keep us quiet.

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By reverento., October 20, 2010 at 5:38 am Link to this comment

I don’t know what to say. I honestly feel like if I were to successfully disconnect from my own illusion of what i wish to be, I would go deep into a federal forest and start some kind of organic garden with non-hybrid seeds, but the very act of acknowledging such a task, makes me break down so hard I can’t even move. I’m frozen with fear.

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By Alphysicist, October 20, 2010 at 4:48 am Link to this comment

PS:  Probably unemployment will rise in the U.S. (but Clinton found a solution to that: redefine unemployment, so the numbers will decrease).  However, I wonder where the info comes from that language barriers cause unemployment. I would think the exact opposite: there is work to be had enabling and smoothening communication between different linguistic groups, when it comes to travel, education, promoting culture, etc.  Many Ph. D.‘s are still written about different languages and dialects in Europe.

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By Alphysicist, October 20, 2010 at 4:44 am Link to this comment

Lafayette,

  When one compares the European and the American healthcare system, the former is far superior: it embodies the idea of social solidarity as opposed to profit alone.  But recently this has been changing.  Unfortunately this may not be obvious from the rules in general, only when one knows particular cases: I know people in Germany who had to pay expensive operations out of their own pocket due to details in the actual rules, and twenty years ago that would not have been the case.  The recently introduced visit price of 10 euros also makes difficult the treatment of, for example, homeless persons.  During the world cup a new legislation was passed in Germany, which enables health insurance companies to increase the cost paid by employees.  This new legislation was introduced by the CDU, but in the progressive dismantling of the social net the SPD is equally as guilty, which started these policies under Schröder.  The real social democratic left is almost entirely gone from Europe.  Moreover, in Eastern Europe (Hungary for example), Soros financed pro-American political groups almost succeeded in introducing a privatized healthcare system, which would have been worse than American style, especially in countries where income levels are far below the U.S.  This political group has lost the last elections for which Hungary is continually “punished” by the Western media (the country as a whole is branded as anti-semitic, racist, and the usual). 

  You are right about medicine, but, as you write, it is an exception.  Now, if the post-modern university offered education, then it would be a good thing that it is free or does not cost much, and in fact it would be a much better system than the American one.  However, given its political and ideological bias, and the potential other auxiliary motives it serves, it is more like a tax-financed church.  It is elitist in a different way from the American system.  Of course, some manage to rise on the social ladder, but, unlike twenty-thirty years ago (when strict entrance exams selected the most talented, and high level universal public education in every village more or less guaranteed that people from all class backgrounds had access to what was asked on those entrance exams), in most cases this rising is tied to serving ideological purposes.

  Does it not strike anyone as odd that in most European Universities, the staff claims to be of the political left (thus speaking the language of solidarity and empathy with the working class, albeit only sometimes, because they have shifted to the same neoliberal ideas that are prevalent in the U.S.), but at the same time most of the working class votes right or even far right?  (Usually the response to this issue is that: “those are just ignorant narrow-minded provincial country bumpkins”, indicating, well, elitism.)  Does that not indicate political selection in the University system, and that they are completely disconnected from the every day problems of ordinary people?  (I have been at several higher ed. type institutions, where it was considered a disadvantage, if one had friends among the local inhabitants: for example Erasmus students tend to hang out mainly with other Erasmus students.)

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By Lafayette, October 20, 2010 at 3:29 am Link to this comment

HIGHER TAXATION

alph: Perhaps the European countries are still more reasonable from a social point of view, even though they are also rapidly eliminating the social network, and replacing it with something that looks like one.

Falsehood. If you knew what a safety net looked like, you’d not make this remark. 

It is true that profligate Europe has to extend its time to retirement in order to sustain retirement benefits, but the social safety net (Hefty and longer UI, a decent National Health Service that does not cost and arm and a leg, Tertiary education that is heavily subsidized by the state, Home loans guaranteed by the state for first-time home buyers, etc., etc., etc.) is intact and functioning due to far more fair Income Distribution than the US.

For such Public Services, one must accept higher taxation of income and capital gain revenues. Nobody likes higher taxes—unless there is quid pro quo for its citizens, which Europe has provided since its reconstitution at the end of the Second World War. Mostly thanks to both Socialist and Social Democrat party emphasis on providing such services.

As regards tertiary education there are filter entry exams for certain subjects, as commented, particularly medicine because the places are limited. However, if one wants to study most other subjects there are no entrance exams. The only requirement is a secondary school diploma.

There is no Tuition in state run schools, but there is an Annual Fee (rarely more than 2000 euros). And, unlike America’s bent for making its top schools run like elite corporations, the European equivalents have far lower operating costs.

More so, since not everybody is fit to go to college or university and Europe’s vocational training system is superb. The best developed is the German apprenticeship program that marries both schooling and OJT-experience—as do some of the better American engineering schools.

POST SCRIPTUM: Unemployment gap

So, one must ask, why is Europe’s long-term unemployment rate perpetually five points higher than the US? For two reasons, this unemployment rate gap will diminish:
* The US long-term rate will rise from 4% to 5 or 6%.
* The fact that European language barriers constrain employment mobility makes for at least 1 to 1.5% of more unemployment. That is an inescapable given, unfortunately.

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By Alphysicist, October 19, 2010 at 11:45 pm Link to this comment

Great lecture!

I would just like to comment on the protests and so forth in Europe.  Perhaps the European countries are still more reasonable from a social point of view, even though they are also rapidly eliminating the social network, and replacing it with something that looks like one.

The fact that universities are free in Europe is a questionable merit of the social network.  European countries have high unemployments, and those numbers would be much higher were it not for universities.  Moreover, keeping the youth in closed buildings prevents rebellions: the disillusionment that would cause rebellion is hidden during the years at universities, they often finish when they are 40 or so, when they are less likely to throw trash cans at shopwindows. 

Two decades ago universities were free, but with strict entrance exams, so the talented and hard-working could rise on the social ladder.  Today there are no more strict entrance exams, but the universities are still free: their role is partly stated above, but also to instill a political ideology which, as the Dems in the U.S., speak the language of social solidarity (and political correctness), but in real life practices the opposite (essentially the ideology of the modern Western left).  To get a position at a university, of course, one must share that rotten ideology.

It is also more and more obvious that the system is unsustainable: in many western countries there have been cuts in University funding, and protests are ensuing.

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By Lafayette, October 19, 2010 at 9:41 pm Link to this comment

WHOA HORSEY!

ds/g: If they are doing that it seems that that would be one indication that the end is near.

Yes, what a damn shame Hedges wasn’t wearing a sandwich board bearing that warning!

The end is NOT in sight and to think it is is pure foolishness. Economists, with their hands of on the facts, would laugh at the notion.

What has happened is that the US is no longer cock-of-the-walk and, after five decades of strutting about the world’s stage like a prima donna, it must get used to playing second fiddle.

But that does not mean life-as-we-know-it is coming to a precipitous end. It does mean that some ingrained habits are no longer either acceptable or sustainable. How’s that?

Foreign pocket-wars are neither acceptable (as an idiot’s substitute for a cogent Foreign Policy) nor sustainable (Lead-head’s pocket-war over in the sandbox was a trillion-dollar drain on the Treasury, which has greatly exacerbated our present dilemma).

We went binging on cheap-credit, caused a Credit Seizure heard round the world, sold Toxic Waste globally with wild abandon and raked in illicit billions for an Elite Capitalist Class to pocket. Hey, who should expect to walk away from that Triple-A Calamity without a monstrous economic headache?

The economy is cyclic and as cycles go, we shall exit from this present nadir within the next two years. It’s nothing to get excited about. But a wee bit of patience from an impatient people—is that too much to ask?

Apparently it is ...

POST SCRIPTUM: The BIG Kwestion

And in this brouhaha is lost the most compelling question of all: Perhaps we should say good-riddance to the type of egocentric society that we have had thus far and, if so, what sort of a Just Society do we want to replace it?

Any takers ... ?

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By Brad Evans, October 19, 2010 at 8:02 pm Link to this comment
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Mainline Protestantism is dying.  You had your chance.  You didn’t keep your own children in church.  You were complacent, even spoiled, and it’s come back to bite you.
  Just the truth. Complacency, not conspiracy.
  Your fault; Falwell was too stupid to do it alone.

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By RayLan, October 19, 2010 at 7:08 pm Link to this comment

But there is a difference between the Tweedle-dee-dee and Tweedle-dee-dum of the Reps and Dems - the Right has the exceptional gift of being so f..king stupid.

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By mdgr, October 19, 2010 at 2:50 pm Link to this comment

Thank you, Chris. This speech, not unexpectedly, is suffused with clarity, integrity and sanity. Poetry, really, truth-teller that you are.

Your voice too, while intellectually always luminous, is predictably suffused with feeling—with all the basic groundedness of heart.

It doesn’t lead to darkness but to an existential choice. The choice is not between neon or fluourescence (Vichy or Berlin) but to the six most brilliant and relevant words in theater.

Or in the theater of history:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11370834

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, October 19, 2010 at 2:20 pm Link to this comment
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Those who like what Hedges is saying probably aren’t hearing him.  He’s talking about the complete breakdown of our society, economic catastrophe, neo-fascist government, a new dark age, poison food and water, the futility of political solutions…

I think many people here applaud what he’s saying without believing that it’s happening or that it’s going to happen to them.  That’s what he calls illusion.

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By rend, October 19, 2010 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment
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Wow, I was at this event.

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By lasmog, October 19, 2010 at 1:30 pm Link to this comment

Wonderful speech. For those of us who have watched in horror as our country was hijacked by corporate greed and liberal timidity, Hedges is a voice of sanity.

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, October 19, 2010 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment
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He said that the US is having to sell $96 billion in debt every week and that when that becomes unsustainable the Fed will start printing money at which point the dollar becomes junk.  That would mean that the all the billionaires lose their money also.  Will they really allow that to happen?  What are they doing - buying gold and silver or foreign currency?  If they are doing that it seems that that would be one indication that the end is near.

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By marcus medler, October 19, 2010 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment

Aloha   The—key—word to be taken home from this presentation is resistance. Resist the illusion - stop being kind to the illusion. Yes we must live and be where we are but we can be aware!!! He is not dark. His words point towards realism with a breath of humanism.

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By gerard, October 19, 2010 at 11:41 am Link to this comment

Raylan:  Consider this:  “They don’t have the political power” because they aren’t using their power, don’t realize their power, don’t want to take responsbility for using their power.
  If “they don’t have the power,” what, then, do you think all this “surveillance” and the “prison-industrial complex” are about?  If there is no reason for “the powers that be” to fear the political power of the “people who will have to clean up the mess” (which means change the system) then why try to outlaw opposition?  Why try to intimidate it?  Why make it difficult for opposition to be heard?  Why shut it out of public media?  Why not let oppositioin be broadcast? Why not discuss it?  Why not come to terms with it rather than quelling it using fear? Why imprison critics of the system rather than change the system to eliminate the system’s injustices?
  It is fear of that very “power of the people” that causes “the powers that be” to spend billions on propaganda, media control, brainwashing, lies and illusions—and on secretly and obscessively tracking everybody’s behavior and thought.
  What a madhouse of illusion piled upon illusion, fear piled upon fear.

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By RayLan, October 19, 2010 at 9:04 am Link to this comment

Chris Hedge’s voice of sanity and reason is unwelcome in a nation whose stature has depended to date on it’s size and economic power.

As F. Scott Fitzgerald has his narrator say about the bourgeois Tom and Daisy

“I couldn’t forgive him or like him, but I saw that what he had done was, to him, entirely justified. It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people, Tom and Daisy—they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made. “

Tom and Daisy could be metaphors for the two-party political corporatized system. The ‘other people’ that have to clean up the mess are the middle class and dis-enfranchised working poor. Unfortunately they don’t have the political power to do so within the current system.

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By thebeerdoctor, October 19, 2010 at 3:07 am Link to this comment

Wow! I learn from a video on the Truthdig web site that the Internet is not going to save us.
What in heaven’s name am I going to do?

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