Hey Pamela

When’s the last time you were carded when you voted?  The very people that do not have ‘proper’ ID are those who are on the fringe… someone who doesn’t drive or belong to your mainstream existence.

So the disenfranchised votes are ‘voter fraud’ because they are not ‘legitimate’ like you?

Bacilo,
I think the issue is far wider than this video.
FYI it is very possible for honest people/citizens not to have a ‘valid’ state issued photo I.D. for various reasons. Not that I’m disputing that the examples given may or may not be accurate.

As a person involved in designing security programs, Frankly these bills are more to do with party politics than ‘voter fraud’.
Presentation of the above state issued I.D.is no more secure than the current system, it is laughable. 
How hard do you think it would be to forge these I.D.  cards? Let me suggest that it isn’t hard. it akin to a small padlock on a warehouse full of gold bars being the only security.
 
In truth it’s more about exclusion or disenfranchisement of potential voters that so called “conservatives” can’t count on.
Keep in mind that GOP’s stated reasoning is that they believe they can organize their voters better than the Democrats. Hence they believe that the lower the voter turnout the better it is for the GOP. So put in as many inconveniences as possible including shorter polling times less booths et al.
Cloak them in what ever terms you want, cost saving etc. But in the final analysis the aim is to reduce the voters down to the most dedicated and sociologically that generally means the extreme ends of the political continuum.
It is a well known psycological fact that the desire for change is stronger the further you move from the reasonably happy centre standard deviations.
i.e. the Tea baggers and the Occupiers out there aren’t the general middle of the road people they are those who feel most aggrieved the ends of the continuum who are easiest to manipulate stir up…the predictable rumps. As one gets towards the true average the decisions they make are less clear and harder to partisanize (aka unreliable party support).
In countries overseas where voting is mandatory the political fights tend to more intense around the middle ground. 

To me I’d suggest that there is good arguments to suggest that the power of democracy is in the the weight of numbers smoothing out the pendulum swings from extreme to extreme ergo the objective should be facilitate inclusiveness rather than exclusion.

Agreed that the Koch brothers have perpetrated all kinds of fraud, but that is
not the issue here.

Every state in the Union issues an ID.  That is the basic minimum that I would
say is valid.  If you want to argue that student ID should be good enough, then
fine, I can get behind that too.

But to say that your ID expired and you can’t get it together enough to get it
renewed is just not good enough.  To state that in order to get an ID you have
to become a resident of the state where you live, which you can’t because you’ll
loose your subsidies…  well, that is where I say this is a load of crap.

It is not enough to sign next to your address.  What keeps you from signing
next to someone else’s.  I have to use ID in any other transaction that requires
me to prove I am who I say I am.

Voting is an important responsibility that comes with citizenship, and it should
be taking seriously as such.

Bacilo de Koch

Apparently the student ID card was not a ‘valid’ form of ID. What is valid?

When I vote I sign beside my registered address. This is good enough.

What ‘fraud’ are they afraid of?  The same fraud perpetrated by the Koch brothers when they sent voter registration to an entire town which gave a due date that was past the voting date. 

Now that is fraud!

What a load!

How is requiring someone to positively identify who they are messing with their
rights?  How else would anyone expect to prevent voter fraud?

Having an ID is as basic as it gets.

Despite my screen name, I have no love for the Koch brothers, but this is just crap.