“Most experiments in socialism, not unlike the flavor you appear to subscribe to, detest opposing views.  It’s rarely tolerated.”

LOL. The pot calling the teacup black.

i think every time the word “historical” is used re Palin, it should be changed to “hysterical.”  LOL.

Lafayette,

I am earnestly sincere.  Anyone, anything, that keeps you firmly amongst the 8% of contemporary American society has my support.

Dogma

I’ve read your views.  What you preach has more than proven itself to offer tremendous pain, untold starvation, the worst human rights abuses imaginable and, in the most extreme cases, the mass murder of millions of human beings. - It’s quite insane to keep believing otherwise.

-

I don’t wish Palin in the White House myself.  I do welcome her into the public arena, however.  Apparently she speaks to and represents more than a few people.  People, we see, you have no use for.

Most experiments in socialism, not unlike the flavor you appear to subscribe to, detest opposing views.  It’s rarely tolerated.

GRYM: Anything, anyone, which riles and confuses the progressive/socialist set is good with me.  You Betcha!

One brainless idiot already as PotUS was quite enough for the rest of this century.

The denizens of the Replicant Party should really try to think harder. Dogma beguiles you so easily.

RayLan,

School Board, Mayor, Governor, National Political Candidate to Media Darling bringing in millions of dollars to her family.  All in near lightening speed.  Absolutely brilliant!

As an added bonus Palin’s large crowds everywhere she travels, the media hanging on her every utterance, waiting with bated breath for her opinion on current events drives most here to complete, debilitating, distraction and frustration!

I LOVE this woman.  You Betcha

Actually Palin is a media troll. Just like the ones that prowl this forum.

GYRM
Palin intelligent - ROFLMAO

RayLan, Intelligent.

ROFLMAO…...........

GRYM
” Anything, anyone, which riles and confuses the progressive/socialist set is good with me.  You Betcha!
” A self-righteous moron normally irritates the intelligent.

I still LOVE Sarah Palin.  I don’t want her as the U.S. President but I love her.  Anything, anyone, which riles and confuses the progressive/socialist set is good with me.  You Betcha!

The most entertaining aspect of Palin is in how the liberal media do the most to keep her in the spotlight. 

HOW SAD, HOW SAD

C96: Lafayette—-You should e-mail your comments to Palin. My formative years were spent in a coal mining town in West Virginia where my father worked 40 years in the mines.  My grandfather worked 50 years.

And my immigrant forebears worked in the mines of Pennsylvania. They all died of some affliction related to the Black-Lung disease, common amongst miners.

That your grandfather and father lived so long is, actually, remarkable.

And who benefited most from their work in the mines? Of course, the mine owners for the most part elsewhere in the country.

Income Unfairness, serious studies show (google “Pickety & Saez”, if interested), is historically tracked by tax revenue information that dates back to the beginning of the 20th century to the beginnings of our national Income Tax.

The unfairness of income distribution has remained fairly constant - meaning that too few obtain and keep far too much.

I figure that the time-line likely extends backwards even further to the very origin of the nation. We just take it for granted that “property rights” means, ipso facto, the right to exploit those who work in whatever business is founded upon those rights.

The only thing that is different nowadays, is, for instance, the fact that Bill Gates (who bought the rights to MS-DOS) then shared the wealth generated with more than 1000 coworkers who were made millionaires by Microsoft.

Now, I ask, is that progress? Meaning this: The purpose of property-rights is to make millionaires whilst despoiling the working class? That’s tantamount to a Lottery Game. Somebody wins an incredible fortune but a great many others lose.

Nope, I don’t think that is what our nation is about. But our Founding Fathers had no idea that such fortunes would be made or, if they did, they probably thought is was just God’s Will.

Fine, if you believe in God. But until God makes a speech to a Combined Congress, I don’t think we should base opportunity in our nation on a faith in his Good Guidance.

MY POINT

Like it or not, Karl Marx got it right. It was his premise that it is in the nature of mankind that those who own property (whether physical or intellectual) will exploit those who don’t - unless a government intervenes to correct the unfairness. Where Marx got it wrong was to think, if the above premise is true, then no one should own property. It should all belong to the state.

That notion (the basis of Communism) has been shown as an intrinsic fallacy and its failure as a viable economic system. It denies the real fact that we are all different, with different capabilities and with different entrepreneurial talents and, yes, with different good-luck. Some people are bound to make more or less money than we do - and the differences in incomes can be very great.

The issue devolves thusly to “how much is way too much because it is immoral and inequitable?” And we have not even touched the surface of that question, whereas the answer lies deep, deep below.

For the moment, economic opportunity in America is this:
* The Sky’s The Limit, and
* I’ve got mine, so Eff You!

This has happened because Marginal Income and Capital Gains taxes, that should rightfully correct the unfairness, were so drastically lowered during the Reagan Administration in the 1980s.

And the Replicants in Congress are doing their damnedest to make sure that the pillaging of the Economic Pie does not change one iota.

How sad, how sad ...

JUST THE FACTS, MA’AM

UK: A dem prez had to introduce some sort of ‘healthcare’ to amerika otherwise there would have been riots for sure.

What a dismal concoction of misinformation is your comment. You work for Fox News?

If passing HC legislation was a piece-of-cake, then why did eight past presidents attempt but fail to pass health care reform - including Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Clinton and now Obama. (Johnson did pass the Medicare Legislation.)

You’re the Flim-Flam Man. Go away - there’s enough chaff dumped in this forum already.

Emotional-fueled religiously-excused bigotry so fundamental to the right wing, is invincible. It has no entry point - no means of access -which is why stupdity is so dangerous. Look at how many innocent people’s lives Bush’s stupdity was responsible for snuffing - Now we have Obama cloning that stupidity with a Harvard seal. There’s a wonderful expression the Catholic tradition has coined - ‘invincible ignorance’ not to be confused with bigotted stupidity.

Sarah Palin is performing an important function at this time in the life of the corrupt amerikan empire.
Imagine for a moment that the scary mega rich conspirators who many imagine spend their hours plotting the best way to grab even more money and power, do in fact exist.
They are sitting around discussing who they want to be prez of amerika.
They hafta admit they are very happy with everything oblamblam has done.  In fact he has hardly put a foot wrong.  Sure they whine and bitch about his changes to health insurance, but really whats not to like?  A dem prez had to introduce some sort of ‘healthcare’ to amerika otherwise there would have been riots for sure. 

The watered down piece of legalistic anti-humanist garbage that oblam & the dems pushed thru will make corporations more money.  It does nothing to stop the gouging and padding that industry regards as normal endeavour.

Everything else has been fine.  The dems have helped to shift more of the tax revenue away from helping humans and into corporate boondoggles that keep rich people rich.
And foreign policy wise Oblam has stopped the anti-amerikanism movement that was causing boycotts of amerikan products and policies all over the world.  Now europe is just as committed to the empire as amerika.
True - oblam went too far in wasting ‘their’ money on Libya when only england & france are likely to enjoy a benefit from the oil. Congress will straighten that out. The quid pro quo’s on Afghanistan and support over Africom should have been left unfulfilled, as per usual.

However we need to consider what would happen to alla the pending ‘free trade’ deals that are little more than agreements to allow amerikan corporations have unregulated access to foreign markets e.g.
“include a number of features that would lock-in as a global norm many controversial features of U.S. law, such as endless copyright terms. (2) create new global norms that are contrary to U.S. legal traditions, such as those proposed to damages for infringement, the enforcement of patents against surgeons and other medical professional, rules concerning patents on biologic medicines, disclosure of information from ISPs, etc. (We will work on a detailed list). (3) undermine many proposed reforms of the patent and copyright system, such as, for example, proposed legislation to increase access to orphaned copyrighted works by limiting damages for infringement, or statutory exclusions of “non-industrial” patents such as those issued for business methods.”

Not much change domestically, but a big risk of re-alienating foreign customers and slowing up the take-over of their nations when the rethug prez dog whistles his domestic support & alienates those liberal foreigners.

So a rethug house and oblam prez gives the best return.
By ‘16 europeans won’t be able to opt out and it won’t matter, but equally it would be foolish to waste a genuine contender on a phoney race against Oblam, so Palin is it.  Her and whatever supertitious cranks the Baptists throw up, will keep the contest looking real without actually threatening what is going down.
Plus it is entertaining in a reality TV sorta way.  makes conservatism seem hip.  That can’t be a bad thing - making rethugs seem like the ‘leading edge’.

Johnnyfarout——I’m a retired psychologist.  I agree
with you on the Freudian “hysteria.”  It’s not only
her voice but her actions.

Lafayette—-You should e-mail your comments to Palin.
My formative years were spent in a coal mining town
in West Virginia where my father worked 40 years in
the mines.  My grandfather worked 50 years.  Since
Palin is trying to deceive people with her flag
waving history of America, I’d like to know what she knows about
the history of the labor movement in America.  She
wouldn’t have learned anything from History texts
in public schools since they cover very little, if
anything, about the history of the labor unions,
especially the treatment of coal mining families
when they were trying to form the United Mine Workers
of America.

PatrickHenry’s comment was/is spot on.

Even Margaret Thatcher according to British media reports considers SP
as a nut case.

  “Margaret Thatcher to Sarah Palin: don’t bother dropping by.”
  Allies of former prime minister regard darling of Tea Party movement
as a frivolous figure unworthy of an audience.

Margaret Thatcher will attend the unveiling of a statue to Ronald
Reagan but is not planning to meet Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin wants to show to the Republican right that she is the true
keeper of the Ronald Reagan flame by meeting the late president’s
closest ally on the world stage.

A meeting with Margaret Thatcher in the centenary year of Reagan’s
birth would be the perfect way of launching her bid for the Republican
nomination for the 2012 US presidential election.

This is what Palin told Christina Lamb in the Sunday Times:“I am going
to Sudan in July and hope to stop in England on the way. I am just
hoping Mrs Thatcher is well enough to see me as I so admire her.”

It appears that the former prime minister has no intention of meeting
the darling of the Tea Party movement. Andy McSmith reported in the
Independent this morning that Palin is likely to be “thwarted” on the
grounds that Thatcher, 86, rarely makes public appearances.It would
appear that the reasons go deeper than Thatcher’s frail health.

Her allies believe that Palin is a frivolous figure who is unworthy of an
audience with the Iron Lady. This is what one ally tells me:“Lady
Thatcher will not be seeing Sarah Palin. That would be belittling for
Margaret. Sarah Palin is nuts.”

sarah palin is america’s rielle hunter and conversely.

Sarah Palin is America’s bad girlfriend who just won’t go away and leave us alone. It looks to me that Palin read the wiki article Lafayette put up and didn’t remember what she read. You can see the blinky glaze come over Palin’s eyes when she needs to explain something… and then she explains, no matter what she said, that she is never wrong… I take it she is on some benzodiazepines. I say this because, to me, her voice sounds more than half way to Freudian hysterics.

The fact that this bimbo is still dominating the public discourse three years after her big splash into the political arena is best evidence of the sorry state of the, American Idol / Dancing With the Stars / Real Wives of Walmart, mentality of this country!

From WikiP, the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere.

The woman, like many of her male denizens on the Far Right, is brainless. They have evidently read history from a comic book.

Where Sarah is confused, from WikiP: {Revere, Dawes, and Prescott were detained by a British Army patrol in Lincoln at a roadblock on the way to Concord. Prescott jumped his horse over a wall and escaped into the woods; he eventually reached Concord. Dawes also escaped, though he fell off his horse not long after and did not complete the ride.

Revere was captured and questioned by the British soldiers at gunpoint. He told them of the army’s movement from Boston, and that British army troops would be in some danger if they approached Lexington, because of the large number of hostile militia gathered there.

Everything Revere told his British captors had a single goal, to move the soldiers away from Lexington, where he had left Hancock and Adams. Revere had reason to believe the patrol’s mission was to arrest the two Patriot leaders.

He and other captives taken by the patrol were still escorted east toward Lexington, until about a half mile from Lexington they heard a gunshot. The British major demanded Revere explain the shot, and Revere replied it was a signal to “alarm the Country”.

A few minutes later came a flurry of shots that seemed to alarm the British captors even beyond the panic they were already in. As the group drew closer to Lexington, the town bell began to clang rapidly, to which one of the captives proclaimed to the British soldiers “The bell’s a’ringing! The town’s alarmed, and you’re all dead men!”

The British soldiers gathered and decided not to press further towards Lexington, to instead free the prisoners and to head back to warn their commanders.

The British confiscated Revere’s horse, and rode off to warn the approaching army column. Revere was horseless and walked through a cemetery and pastures until he came to Rev. Clarke’s house where Hancock and Adams were staying.

As the battle on Lexington Green unfolded, Revere assisted John Hancock and his family in their escape from Lexington, helping to carry a trunk of Hancock’s papers}

Palin embodies, in my opinion, the very worst of American politics. This woman is a self serving, money grubbing and rather shallow individual who walked out on the people of Alaska in order to grab as much loot as possible.

But the onus is on the citizens of this nation. As Democracy requires the participation of all citizens a moron like Palin who reaches national prominence only reflects on the sad lack of desire to make thoughtful choices so prevalent in today’s political climate.

Where is she getting the money for her circus? She
loves to get her face on television.  She can call
all her friends and relatives and say, “Look at me!”
Like a little child performing for the relatives.

POLITICIANS! The governor of Florida today signed a bill requiring people on welfare to take drug tests.  I about fell out of my seat.  I yelled at the television, “You idiot.  Make the politicians take drug tests.  It’s not people on welfare who have passed the laws that have just about ruined our country.  Test the politicians!”  I knew our Governor in Florida was an idiot when he was running for office.  He had a commerical on television where he made the comment, “It’s the politicians that have ruined our state.”  I thought, “Is this guy an idiot?  Doesn’t he realize that if elected he will be a politician?”  He had enough money to get elected.  Now, we have an idiot for a governor.  Signing a bill that would require people on welfare to take drug tests.  People on welfare don’t pass laws. Politicians do!  Require politicians to take random drug tests if you want to impress me.

i know her american history, too. never before have so
many said so much about so little.

Enough already.

You can’t fool me: Paul Revere had a rock group in the 60s and 70s and sang that neat paean to Native Americans, “Indian Reservation.”

Peace.

Why are you starting with the Palin stuff, TD?  I stopped reading HuffPo for that very reason.

Scary barbie.