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Chris Hedges Occupies PrincetonPosted on Dec 19, 2011
Chris Hedges tells a gathering of smarties, “I feel that I’ve learned as much from the movement as I’ve given to it, if I’ve given even very much to it.” Advertisement The World As It Is:Dispatches on the Myth of Human Progress
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By Paul Watkins, December 29, 2011 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment
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If you students in Princeton actually listen to this
Report thisman and refuse to sell your soul for the corporate
dollar, America might just still have a chance.
By Night-Gaunt, December 28, 2011 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment
Only if you find him wrong more than right. You seem to only be questioning his demeanor, not his facts.
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Hedges seems to have the same problem as all Harvard graduates, including those he criticizes. They all assume that they are always right about everything, and their chief enjoyment comes from parading their righteousness for all to hear and see. What good ever comes from this, on either side?
Report thisBy Pierre, December 26, 2011 at 11:04 pm Link to this comment
Excuse my poorly written comment below. Please read
Report thisit without the normalized view of causality by which
we assume human agency to be the cause of the damage
to the environment. Instead, consider that conceptual
error and destruction are interactive, in other words
that they are symptomatic of each other. The reason
for the validity of this perspective is the
understanding that the universe is deterministic —
not only does free will not exist, but that our
sensation of will and civilization’s mythology of
will, agency, choice and creativity are bogus.
Consider that as a profound ontological error, this
goes along with pervasively ignorant human action. If
these points are true, then the assumptions
underlying the Occupy Movement are just as
superficial and shortsighted as those underlying
corporate corruption. They are the same. Then the
success of that movement would merely perpetuate the
problem.
By Pierre Rousseau, December 26, 2011 at 9:27 am Link to this comment
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Chris, the single greatest impediment to canceling out
Report thisideology symptomatic of the accelerating destruction? of
the biosphere as the uniquely dense complexity of the
local cosmos is the idea of the (intelligent) self.
Take this speech. Every time your “self” or someone’s
greatness enters the story, there is a major
regathering of thoughts. “Biographical self agency with
will and in control” is the fly in the ointment.
Coherent understanding can cancel out gross error ? but
only without the self.
By cclauson, December 22, 2011 at 8:37 pm Link to this comment
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Just for the record, I wrote comments on earlier posts in which I criticized occupy for their tactics (i.e., lack of centralization, lack of demands, etc)
In light of developments, I’m retracting that criticism. I honestly just didn’t think they’d have the staying power they have. I assumed that they were in it for the short term, and would just go home when results didn’t immediately materialize, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
So I was totally wrong.
Report thisBy David J. Cyr, December 20, 2011 at 11:53 am Link to this comment
Princeton’s still callously complicit institutional position is clearly demonstrated by the small number of people who attended Hedges presentation there, and in their apparently having needed to secrete themselves away in a cold dark corner of the campus… like Roman Empire era Christians meeting in a catacomb.
Jill Stein for President:
http://www.jillstein.org
Voter Consent Wastes Dissent:
http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=498&Itemid=1
Report thisBy Night-Gaunt, December 20, 2011 at 11:26 am Link to this comment
I would have liked to have seen the Q an A or some of it. So far we see the police is still on the PTB. Until and if they get on our side we won’t have much of a chance.
Considering that the fraudclosers need to be shut down now due to criminal actions by the banks. Keeping people in their homes paying some mortgage is far better than closing those houses down.
I see anti intellectualism still alive. Those who are contemptuous of the “smarties.” Very sad. Plays into the hands of the corporate elite and their owners who hold the same contempt. With good reason since they are the ones that understand what is going on and can relay it to others not yet in the know.
Report thisBy Katie Corbet, December 20, 2011 at 10:48 am Link to this comment
I am posting not because I don’t agree with Hedges (I always agree 100+%) but toward those on this site that will castigate Hedges as usual…never fails. It is ironic that in a land 300+ million people, the likes of Hedges are only a handful.
Report thisBy EmileZ, December 20, 2011 at 6:20 am Link to this comment
I am eager to read the Chris Hedges/Joe Sacco collaboration. What a fantastic idea.
Good talk… especially the first part. Sad about the Q&A. When I first started reading Hedges columns here, It sounded to me like he was “name-dropping” as well when he kept saying “my friend”.
Report thisBy diman, December 20, 2011 at 5:48 am Link to this comment
So, this is it, about may be 20 “smarties” in Princeton?
Report thisBy kerryrose, December 20, 2011 at 3:06 am Link to this comment
There is no one there.
Report thisBy Copeland, December 19, 2011 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment
This is one of Chris Hedges’ best and most comprehensive presentations. It is
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By gerard, December 19, 2011 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment
PS—Why the minimizing “gathering of smarties”???
Report thisBy rumblingspire, December 19, 2011 at 5:42 pm Link to this comment
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The Golden Dawn-This Way Please
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbqdyQ1tCw
“together
Report thiswe can find
a better state of mind.
...
another way
another day
...
this way please.”
By gerard, December 19, 2011 at 4:17 pm Link to this comment
Thanks to Chris Hedges again for so much coherent information, and for heading into places like Princeton with a mesage “management” doesn’t want students to hear, yet awakening intellectual curiority and conscience among the sons and daughters of the 1%. Very important.
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