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Obama Will Deal With Karzai

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Posted on Nov 2, 2009

The president’s top political adviser, David Axelrod, told CBS News that Abdullah Abdullah’s withdrawal from the Afghan runoff election was a “political decision” and that the White House would “deal with the government that is.”

Axelrod added that President Obama would make a decision on the escalation of the war in Afghanistan “within weeks.” Other topics of conversation included Rush Limbaugh’s entertainment value and the status of swine flu vaccine.  —PZS

CBS / Face the Nation:

Partial transcript from CBS News:

DAVID AXELROD: Well, let me correct one thing that you said, Bob. What the president said was he wanted there to be a—an election that proceeded in the constitutional way. It—it did, in fact, many ballots were thrown out, a runoff was called. Now Mr. Abdullah has exercised his rights as a candidate to withdraw. He’s made a political decision to withdraw from this contest and—and that does not markedly change the situation.


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BOB SCHIEFFER: Well, why doesn’t it? I mean, the thing was a fraud. The man who was opposing him said, you know, you’ve got to replace these officials who allowed this to happen— they didn’t allow it to happen. [The] United States, I guess, went along with that. Why doesn’t it change the situation?

AXELROD: Well, I think ... first of all, as I said, he made a political judgment and I thought that his remarks today were rather moderate. He left open as to whether his supporters should participate in the process and he’s establishing himself as a—as a leader of the opposition.

But every poll that’d been taken there suggested that he was likely to be defeated anyway. So we’re going to deal with the government that is. Then, obviously, there are issues we need to discuss, such as reducing the high level of corruption there. These are issues we’ll take up with—with President Karzai.

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By DieDaily, November 5, 2009 at 3:10 am Link to this comment

starfish, you are quite right. But I think you hit
upon the crux of the matter when you said “or he
shouldn’t be president”. It is SO gratifying that the
fictitious left and fictitious right are uniting in
this thought. The Dems and Reps are increasingly
being exposed and understood as the left and right
hand of the same ugly beast. I challenge anyone to
the policies of Obama and Bush. Obama escalates and
expands the war, panders to Wall Street and the
corporations even worse than Bush did, he has not
repealed the PATRIOT act, closed Guantanamo. Transparency in Government? Not whatsoever.
Wiretapping? Going strong. Investigated the CIA? Not
at all. United the nation? The opposite. He has lied,
lied, lied at every turn.

Never had we been so excited about the prospect of
change. But there was no change, and there will be no
change until the system itself is thoroughly
dismantled and rebuilt along the lines of the peer-
to-peer systems that now PROVE that the people do not
need “central servers” to collaborate and create
culture. Opinion polls at 40%! Proof, I would say! Oh
sure, that’s the Republic Radical Right that did
that, just a bunch of gun-toting racists. Oh really?
And just how did they bring this about? How indeed.

We are beginning en masse to reject this two-ring
circus that is the party system in the US. There will
soon come a day when there are no political parties,
and no consolidated mainstream media to perpetuate
the hoax that they were ever distinct. There will
come a day when there are only the people and the
representatives of those people. The latter will be
beholden exclusively to their constituents and nobody
and nothing else…the very antithesis of the status
quo. The left-right illusion has already grown
diaphanous and is fading ever faster. There is no
fundamental left-right divide. There is only freedom
vs. control, elitism vs. egalitarianism,
decentralized vs. centralized power. There is only
what has ever been: a class division, not an
ideological one, a vertical divide, not a horizontal
one along party lines. And we great unwashed, we
useless eaters, we little chattel, have grown tired
of these Colosseum showmen and are finally wise to
their tricks. And they are deeply afraid.

They may wreck civilization in their death throes,
but they’ve had it. Finally, finally, they
overreached and tipped their hand. The rest is
history in the making.

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By starfish, November 3, 2009 at 9:46 am Link to this comment

Surely, Obama had in place a ‘Plan A’ in case Karzai won or a ‘Plan B’ in case someone else won.

So why will it take Obama additional weeks to come to some conclusion about his plan for Afghanistan?  He told us—more than once—that the war in Afghanistan was a “war of necessity” and a war we “had” to win.  He also told us he had a “new strategy” for Afghanistan, so what is it?

The war in Afghanistan has been going on for eight years now and we can assume that it’s been on Obama’s mind for at least the three years that include his campaign for the presidency and the year since winning the job. Obama has access to more and better information about the situation in Afghanistan than any of us can have; the decision must be coming clear to him by now—or he shouldn’t be president.

Just as the tough legal cases are the ones that land at the U.S. Supreme Court (the easy ones having been dealt with at a lower level), so too, do the tough decisions land on the president’s desk. If the decisions were easy, they would be dealt with at a lower level.

Obama had NO executive experience before becoming president, and it shows.

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By starfish, November 3, 2009 at 9:03 am Link to this comment
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This is such a crock.

Obama was going to have to deal with whoever “won” the election in Afghanistan, wasn’t he?

After all, aren’t we in Afghanistan because we have a national self-interest there?

Obama hid behind the excuse of needing to wait till “after the election,” so he could postpone doing what is agony for him: having to make a decision that he has to take responsibility for.

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By melpol, November 3, 2009 at 8:09 am Link to this comment

International Heroin dealers will soon own Afghanistan. The nation that exports
the purest Heroin controls the world. The competition among drug dealers to get
high grade Heroin is fierce, one pure gram can be stretched 100 times. Only the
well connected get the pure and become billionaires. But they in return owe more
than money to their benefactors, it is allegiance to a foreign power.  Thousands of
well connected drug dealers have been placed in every city of the world, they
exert tremendous influence on governments. They have become wealthy enough
to buy militias and assassins. An Octopus with tentacles made up of Heroin
dealers has taken control of the world.

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By melpol, November 3, 2009 at 4:46 am Link to this comment

Trying to keep Karzai honest is more difficult than getting a Fox to stay away
from the Chicken coop. He is living in a nation where honesty equals stupidity.
The American president is surely aware that he has a corrupt partner in
Afghanistan. But Karzai is needed by the bullet manufacturers, he has millions of
enemies to kill.

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By dihey, November 2, 2009 at 7:30 am Link to this comment

Unfortunately for the President the Afghan government “that is” will deal with him too. Karzai, despite all his negatives, is in his own country. President Obama is an intruder.

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By akorozco, November 2, 2009 at 7:22 am Link to this comment
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“Deal with the government that is?” The government that is is totally illegitimate -
a fraud is now the de facto power. This totally undermines our involvement there.

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