Crimes of the State Blog, October 12 at 1:30pm,

The Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMISTS are trying to make a mockery out of the Nobel Peace Prize because Goldwater, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Ronald Wilson Reagan—their chief ideological henchman—together with all of their Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST minions were not even considered for a Nobel Peace Prize, and the World as a whole supports President Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize because the World as a whole is looking forward to President Obama reversing the destructive policies of Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST governance.

The Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMISTS are carping about President Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize for no other reason than that they are jealous and realize that the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to President Obama in the hope that he would reverse Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST policies both Nationally and World Wide.

The Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST Movement is making one last gasp before the death rattle emerges from its collective throat that is much like the Battle of the Bulge was the last desperate act of the German Nazis in World War II.

After receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, Obama has escalated the AfPak war again but sending another twelve thousand troops to Afghanistan.  Without announcing it to the American people.

These Nobel clowns have made a mockery of the word “peace” for a century now.  They awarded unrepentant mass murderer Teddy Roosevelt the prize back in the day.  Apparently because the name sounds a lot like “noble” in English, we’re supposed to take them seriously.  They tossed away any hope for credibility in my lifetime when they awared Kissinger the same prize. 

Warmonger Wins Peace Prize
http://counterpunch.org/PRIVOXY-FORCE/roberts10092009.html

War and Peace
http://counterpunch.org/PRIVOXY-FORCE/cockburn10092009.html

Obama is a puppet leader installed to prosecute the empire.  Nothing more.  Nothing more peaceful.  It remains to be seen if he’ll launch world war 4 on Iran at the insistence of his Zionist base.

DaveZx3, October 12 at 11:04am,

You presented a polarized frame in your post in the name of unification, which I thought was odd to say the least.

DaveZx3, October 12 at 5:01am,

DaveZx3 said: “I had hoped there would be a unification under Obama, what I am seeing, in fact, is an expansion of the polarization.  Just like dancing, it takes both sides to continue polarization.” 

MarthaA’s answer:  It is ludicrous to advocate unification by divisive polarization as you have stated, “Do you think we would be better served by an autocratic left-Wing progressive EXTREMIST?”

DaveZx3, October 12 at 5:01am,

DaveZx3 said:  “I had hoped there would be a unification under Obama,”

ThomasG says:  The frame of the Left in your post is a good example of what your hope is; if you are hoping for unification, you have found a strange way of promoting your hoped for unification——unification by divisive polarization and division.

Do you think we would be better served by a Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST?

How does divisive polarization promote unification?

MarthaA, 

Do you think we would be better served by an autocratic left-Wing progressive EXTREMIST? 
I think we will be finding that out very soon.

I am not pre-judging, I am just wondering, because where I had hoped there would be a unification under Obama, what I am seeing, in fact, is an expansion of the polarization.  Just like dancing, it takes both sides to continue polarization.  It cannot be blamed solely on one side or the other.  Rhetorical name calling and blaming does not help

While I agree that what Obama has done in recent months to help change the
International climate is admirable and praiseworthy—it is in and of itself
certainly not worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize.

The niggling element that most people are missing here is that the deadline for
applications for nominations for the prize was Feb. 1, 2009. And that means
President Obama had only been in office for 12 days. How on earth could
*anyone* be nominated for such a prize with less than two weeks of activity on
the international scene? Normally, years of dedicated service towards a cause
promoting peace is required. But twelve days?

Even if it will be true in 2-3 years of dedicated service in which President
Obama ended up helping to tremendously improve the International climate
and promote peace, what’s the rush with awarding this now? It should be clear
that such a quick awarding with very little to show for it (remember 12 days in
office before being nominated) would only serve to compromise, in the minds
of many, the credibility of the award and of the awarding body.

It’s painfully apparent that international politics are at play here. And perhaps
there’s also an element of public perception management in the wake of strong
public controversy relating to economic reform, healthcare reform, as well as
the continuing wars abroad.

For a more detailed non-partisan examination of the issues by Congressman
Ron Paul, see http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-10-10/ron-paul-on-obama-
winning-the-nobel-peace-prize/

race_to_the_bottom,
“Question: What makes less sense?”
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Obama haters expounding on the value of the Peace Prize, or conservative apologists explaining why selective hate is better than selective peace.

Stupid question.

It is pretty plain from listening to the above video that there was NO MISTAKE whatsoever in the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to democratic President Obama, so perish that thought.

But, of course, the autocratic Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMISTS - and those playing like liberals and moderates on this blog, are Hell bent on destroying democratic President Obama, and won’t accept the facts that Obama’s actions have been approved to be constructive without destructive intent and in the best interest of peace, instead of destructive with destructive intent, as has been the case for the last eight years of the autocratic Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST Bush administration.

The United States must steer clear of another autocratic Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST, like George W. Bush, and all the autocratic Republican Party has to offer is autocratic Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMISTS similar to George W. Bush.

guacamaya writes:
“If you quote someone than make sure you quote the right person because I never wrote that!”

Yikes: I mis-attributed DaveZx3’s “leftist” remarks to guacamaya, and regret the error.

The smarm du jour, meanwhile, seems to be Michael Moore’s “Second Thoughts” post, in which Moore—fresh from a commercial turn on the Sean Hannity show—recants a half-hearted scolding in favor of another round of Oblabla-campaign happy gas ... and blames it on “my wife”, as though to remind any surviving “left” shreds of Tom Hayden’s primary hit piece on Clinton “Why Hillary Makes My Wife Scream”.

(Meanwhile, The CHANGEling’s latest Chicago-Way “peace” move is ... to pay the Taliban to be on HIS side. Will He kick in His prize $ to help pay for it? Suuure He will.)
“Barack Obama ready to pay Afghan fighters to ditch the Taliban”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6869503.ece

(To the extent that the REAL Nobel prize is still subject to spoofing, see the IgNobels at http://improbable.com/ig/winners/ , including a peace-prize homage to Oblabla’s beer summit:

“PEACE PRIZE: Stephan Bolliger, Steffen Ross, Lars Oesterhelweg, Michael Thali and Beat Kneubuehl of the University of Bern, Switzerland, for determining — by experiment — whether it is better to be smashed over the head with a full bottle of beer or with an empty bottle.
REFERENCE: “Are Full or Empty Beer Bottles Sturdier and Does Their Fracture-Threshold Suffice to Break the Human Skull?” Stephan A. Bolliger, Steffen Ross, Lars Oesterhelweg, Michael J. Thali and Beat P. Kneubuehl, Journal of Forensic and Legal Medicine, vol. 16, no. 3, April 2009, pp. 138-42. DOI:10.1016/j.jflm.2008.07.013.
WHO ATTENDED THE CEREMONY: Stephan Bolliger”)

@CT
If you quote someone than make sure you quote the right person because I never wrote that!

bluepunk,
Kudos!

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I feel the need to comment on the fact that conservatives in Europe, which is a whole different breed from our own inbred conservatives, actually recognise honest effort when they see it. And that’s not just a nod to the fact that it’s been many, many years since any president from this country came across that way to anyone in Europe. That’s just the way it is.

Yep, I feel the need.

Then I remember this is truthdig where every nut is free to express his particular version of cracked reality.

So, why bother?

Besides you said it all. Thanks

guacmaya writes:
“I get the feeling that the international community is relieved that they have a fellow leftist/socialist in the US presidency now, so they can breathe easier, for some unknown reason.”

Yikes! Get a grip—confusing corporate hat-rack Obama with a “leftist” is plumb silly.

Obama’s a placeholder in an unassailable birthday suit, the seat-filler under whose deliberately-drifty aegis US rule will return—under leadership less ludicrous than snarling ditch-digger Dick Cheney—to the REAL Republicans.

Question: What makes less sense?

The Nobel committee awarding the Peace prize to Obama or Boyarsky’s explanation of why it makes sense. There’s simply too much to refute in this article.

Obama has an impossible job.

The Bush administration had so tarnished the image of the US in world public opinion because of the way it advanced US “interests” that it became necessary to scrap the brand and put brand Obama forward to polish the image a bit. The problem is that it has to be done without significantly changing US policy or redefining US “interests”. This can work for awhile, both at home and abroad, and may give the ruling class a bit of breathing room, but this political Dale Carnagieism will fail in the end. It already is.

DaveZx3, yes you can sleep easier at night in this new climate. Obama has toned down the HATE that Bush filled our lives with and the international community as well. Only those sleeping in a hole somewhere or feeding on a Rush Limbaugh diet would think otherwise. Sorry for your life struggles and your daughter’s but where is the connection to this discussion? Your rant n’slap of “leftist/socialist” is without warrant and just proves the point: we do not need a name-calling president with an attitude of an 9th grade bully. To that end, please spear us your libertarian-paranoia.

And by the way, whether you or your war mongering friends approve or not, we (American voters) PUT AMERICA FIRST by freely and fairly electing Obama as our President and leader. And he’s doing a solid job at it.

Well, Afghans will be feeling a major climate change soon, it will be hot and scorching. And I can’t wait for these people’s comments next Spring when we’re at war with Iran.

The Nobel committee has done worse though, back in 1938 they were debating between Hitler and Gandhi.

Leefeller may be right.  the whole committee many have been drunk on holiday gloug.

Anyone coming after Bush would have given an new international climate and created the hope that the warmongering would end at last. I think it’s absurd to have given him this price after only 6 months when nothing much has changed. Seems more like he was given it in the hope that he would live up to it.

WOW!!  Now I know why Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize.  He has “produced an entirely new international climate”.  That explains it all.  I can finally sleep peacfully again, he world is safe under Obama-Climate. 

When my youngest daughter got hooked on drugs, it got so bad, I had to kick her out of the house when she turned 18.  She moved in with a druggie boyfriend, and I remember her saying, “it was like living in a completely new environment”  What she meant by that was, no one held her accountable for her actions anymore, and it brought great relief to her. 

I get the feeling that the international community is relieved that they have a fellow leftist/socialist in the US presidency now, so they can breathe easier, for some unknown reason. 

The difference is, I was able to remove my daugher and her behavior from my presence, pending her change of attitude, (which she eventually pulled off, and is now a very productive, drug-free member of society welcome to the house any time).

Is there any way I can move Obama out of the house so he can move in with his new “international community sweethearts” until he changes his attitude and starts putting America first?