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Posted on Aug 31, 2009

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs fielded a question about former Vice President Dick Cheney’s ongoing Enhanced Interrogation Press Tour with restrained disdain Monday, calling Cheney’s comments “the same song and dance we’ve heard since literally the first day of our administration,” as well as “wrong.”  —KA

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By MarthaA, September 3, 2009 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment

EXTREMIST CONSERVATIVE SOPHISM gone to seed in OzarkMichael who is trying to deflect his OWN FAR RIGHT CONSERVATIVE EXTREMIST sophism and Hitleresque propaganda portraying Hitler and his Nazis as innocent.

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By OzarkMichael, September 3, 2009 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment

MarthaA says: As for OzarkMichael’s sophism and EXTREMIST propaganda; his subjective assertions…

My subjectivity is hardly worth mentioning. I mean, i cant imagine that anyone should be killed just for disagreeing with me.

Only MarthaA can do that.

So we are all interested in MarthaA’s amazing “objectivity”.

Where she can justify blowing my head off and the next minute she tells me it “wont be anything personal”.

Now folks, that is objectivity!

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By MarthaA, September 3, 2009 at 6:37 pm Link to this comment

As for OzarkMichael’s sophism and EXTREMIST propaganda; his subjective assertions trying to deflect his own sophism and EXTREMIST propaganda off himself onto others, doesn’t change OzarkMichael’s OWN Hitleresque sophism and EXTREMIST propaganda, or that of the RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

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By OzarkMichael, September 3, 2009 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment

MarthaA said The “song and dance” Robert Gibbs, White House Press Secretary, is talking about is SOPHISM and EXTREMIST PROPAGANDA that were led by W. Bush and Dick Cheney during the Bush 2 administration.

Now in the interest of full disclosure I want to quote marthaA about who else is engaged in ‘sophism’ and ‘extremist propaganda’. 

Martha said: I have clearly demonstrated that YOU, OzarkMichael, and the RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE EXTREMIST MOVEMENT from the time of Goldwater (1976) through Reagan, Bush I, Bush II to the present have been and continue to use sophism and propaganda of the same type used by Adolph Hitler…

Notice that MarthaA has decided that all conservatives are ‘extremists’ and are the same as Hitler. But there is more, and this next step takes the cake:

MarthaA said: We should have laws passed that make this kind of sophism illegal, so that what happened in Nazi Germany cannot happen here in the United States and it won’t if we have laws that criminalize YOUR’S and HITLER’S type of sophism, so that we can give those who practice Hitler’s type of sophism a fair trial and then either imprison them or take them out and shoot them til they no longer wiggle.

MarthaA wants to make dissent illegal. MarthaA wants to shoot people who disagree with her. MarthaA is ready to shoot 30% of the population of the USA till they no longer wiggle.

Please join me in asking MarthaA where she got such an idea. What sick book she is reading? Who is she parroting?

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By MarthaA, September 2, 2009 at 9:33 am Link to this comment


I do not think you made up what you heard, and I thank you for your help.  All corroborating evidence you or anyone else can come up with is greatly appreciated. 

In no way do I think that you made up what Ed Rollins said, and I would like for everyone else who heard it to come forward.

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By bogi666, September 2, 2009 at 8:32 am Link to this comment

Martha, as I tried to explain this was an impromptu interview by a then local reporter in the mid 1990’s probably 95 after Republicans gained control of the Congress. The reporter just happened on Rollins, asking the question. It only lasted a minute or two and the reporter was shocked, as I was. Being an impromptu segment as part of other segments it was gone before I could write the station of anything down. Now think about it, how could I dream something like this up remembering Rollins by his last name only and associating it with Rollins truck rentals, learning his 1st name sometime later. Had this been a scheduled interview it certainly could have been documented. It was shown on a channel coming out of Greenville, South Carolina probably.I had antenna TV then. It was not even an organized event, just a gathering of people and Rollins was there in the audience milling around. It would be like going to a street gathering walking around from one person to the next asking unrehearsed impromptu questions.That’s how it happened.Rollins was not head of the RNC at that time.

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By MarthaA, September 2, 2009 at 7:13 am Link to this comment


It would be really helpful if you could document this conversation and let me know where I can get a transcript or get in contact with other parties to the conversation.

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By bogi666, September 2, 2009 at 5:14 am Link to this comment

MarthaA, FYI on Nazi SOPHISM and EXTREME PROPAGANDA and their use by the Republican Party admitted by former RNC chairman Ed Rollins. I was watching TV in the mid 90’s when local TV reporter started an impromptu conversation with Rollins. The reporter asked Rollins why the Republicans used NAZI techniques at their meetings and demonstrations to which Rollins answered “if these tactics worked for the Nazi’s they will work for us[the Republican Party]. Why wouldn’t we[the Republican Party]  use them[the same tactics the Nazi’s used]. Now I had been living outside the country for several years and didn’t know Ed Rollins from a turnip. The only reason I even remember his name was because I associated it with Rollins truck rental and was so shocked by what Rollins said as was the then local TV person. I didn’t even remember Rollins 1st name until sometime later when I heard it in conjunction with the Republican Party.

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By Purple Girl, September 2, 2009 at 5:14 am Link to this comment

Cheney, et al, are trying to Bury nearly 40 yrs of Bullshit in an 8 yr old Kitty Litter box!
Oh W’s yrs were a disaster, but in reality they were nothing more than the well foreseen outcome of 40 yrs of NeoCon Criminality.
We have yet to discover who authorized the sale of anthrax to Saddam in the ‘80’s which he used to kill Kurds. That’s Geneocide and whoever supplied the means is just as culpable in that Crime Against Humanity.
Sen McCain you seemed to know an aweful lot about “Saddams” Anthrax- How did you know within only days of those Attacks, it was Saddam when the scientists hadn’t even figured out which strain it was from? Delivery Boy?
Come on people why else would Repugs be willing to expound the virtues of torture and even unfurl their Racist Freak flag unless there was something far worse to be exposed?
Cheney never felt the need to explain himself before- now he is spending exorbinant amounts of time and effort to confess to War Crimes.We have War Criminals around the world serving time, but Genocide holds a far stiffer can treason. We were not in a war with Iran, and certainly not with the Kurds- so the excuse of war time mentality does not fly.
Cheney,et al, are not as worried about the last eight years, as they are about the last 40 when the claim of “good faith” war time decisions and actions did not apply.
an indepth expose should be complied to explain how the NeoCons ruined this country and created havoc and mayhem around the world for decades. Ya know that thing called Historical Facts.
Hell if I was a bit player during these High crimes I’d be singing. What idiot is willing to take yet another ‘hit for the team’? Haven’t you learned yet when the going gets tough,the Neo Cons throw out their Newbies to take the fall?
In fact if I was a W loyalist I’d be pushing the idea Cheney and his legion pulled off a Coup, usurping W’s ‘Decidership’. Infact I’d be digging through archives and evidence to prove the Neo cons were involved in numerous crimes throughout their tenure- from their teethcutting time with Nixon, til they overthrew the Gov’t completely during W.Want to save W’s ass (and your own) GIVE US CHENEY and his life long cronies!!

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By Outraged, September 1, 2009 at 11:04 pm Link to this comment

I think Mr. Gibbs is a seriously likeable guy.  I like him.  But aside from that, he’s right.  Cheney’s WRONG on interrogation.

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By MarthaA, September 1, 2009 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment

The “song and dance” Robert Gibbs, White House Press Secretary, is talking about is SOPHISM and EXTREMIST PROPAGANDA that were led by W. Bush and Dick Cheney during the Bush 2 administration. 

SOPHISM and EXTREMIST PROPAGANDA played a great part in World War II; this subject is being discussed on Truthdig - ‘Hitler’s Delusions of Artistic Grandeur’  and is pertinent to this thread because the use of SOPHISM and EXTREMIST PROPAGANDA brought the Bush 2 administration to power along with Dick Cheney as Vice President.  Hitler Type SOPHISM and EXTREMIST PROPAGANDA of the type used by Adolph Hitler to obtain power over the Government in Germany has been used by the RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN MOVEMENT to denigrate, accuse, condemn and denounce LIBERALS in the United States; listening to Press Secretary, Robert Gibbs, it would appear that the bloom has dropped off this type of behavior by the RIGHT-WINGERS;  all I can say about that is that it is about time. 

Our country doesn’t need Dick Cheney and his RIGHT-WING CRONIES spewing the vitriol of RIGHT-WING SOPHISM and RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST PROPAGANDA to get a RIGHT-WING Hitleresque Type of Government in power in the United States.

ENOUGH is ENOUGH.  It is time for a change away from Dick Cheney and RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN efforts to install a Neo-Nazi Government to lead the United States to a 21st Century Armageddon.

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