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 Media Meltdown in a Time of Crisis, Part 3Posted on Aug 24, 2009
Editor’s note: A few months ago, Truthdig hosted a panel called “Media Meltdown in a Time of Crisis,” with Amy Goodman, Chris Hedges and Robert Scheer. The panelists discussed the present and future of media with the global economic crisis, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the health care debate raging on. Here is the third and final installment of that event. Videography by Mansoor Sabbagh and Jeanne Kyle, editing by Chloe Zuanich
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By OzarkMichael, August 27, 2009 at 2:54 pm Link to this comment
Dearest omop,
In your post you criticize Israel. This is called free speech. So just keep it at that level. We can agree or not, its ok. Which sort of proves your whole whacky premise is wrong.
In your post you regurgitate anti-semitism. That is also free speech. But I am going to call you on it every time. Just deal with it.
But if you or your friends decide to try some violence, it will not go well for you.
Report thisBy Lance B. Snow, August 27, 2009 at 10:14 am Link to this comment
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A short time ago Amy Goodman wrote a piece about Troy Davis and in it she mentioned the Scalia argument that innocence is not a counter-argument. I can’t find the original thread.
Report thisIf Scalia’s argument is correct, then I have to ask why are there so many unsolved capital crimes? If you can just pick up any of the usual suspects: minorities, unshaven misfits, or just plain down-and outers, why haven’t thes crimes been paid for?
In the logic of Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas it doesna’t matter. Someone’s got to pay.
By omop, August 27, 2009 at 6:35 am Link to this comment
Further proof that the msm in the US is quite selective in its meltdown:
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/lets-see-if-we-can-go-one-
Report thisday-without-a-new-israeli-scandal/
By omop, August 27, 2009 at 5:25 am Link to this comment
OzarkMichael,; Your comments/insults attests to the line
“In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel.”
check out the “zion” link cretin.
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/six-jewish-companies-own-
Report this96-of-the-worlds-media/
By OzarkMichael, August 26, 2009 at 6:06 pm Link to this comment
omop quotes ‘someone’, supposedly a Jew: You know very well, and the most all Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House
Sounds like someone goes to bed at night with the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ under their pillow.
Why dont you go to talk2action where they claim that the Christian fundamentalists like me are the ones who control everything. Then you can argue with some people just as crazy as yourself.
Report thisBy omop, August 26, 2009 at 3:02 pm Link to this comment
The view from the Middle East and Southeast Asia according to word-press:
(a short extract)
Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media
Quantcast
The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the price of
collective stupidity.
“You know very well, and the most all Americans know equally well, that we
control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I
know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to
challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us?
We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control
everything in America.”
“In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel.”
Report thisBy OzarkMichael, August 25, 2009 at 3:24 pm Link to this comment
Ms Goodman said: “People have felt that they are hitting their head against a brick wall for a long time now. And now that wall is a door. That door is open a crack. And the question is whether it will be kicked open or slammed shut.”
That line of thought is almost verbatem something I have heard before. As well some of the Leftist phenomenon that she praises:
1. local independence from the system
2. people being ‘hyperaware’, ‘hypervigilant’
3. understanding what is at stake
4. as a result, an anticipation of change, and the door being kicked open.
All of this sounded so familiar to me. Why?
Because all of this is identical to what happened among conservative Evangelical Christians a few decades ago. Which is not to endorse or condemn the process or even the causes back then or now.
Its interesting.
Report thisBy pacrat, August 25, 2009 at 7:56 am Link to this comment
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Glad that someone is trying to understand and to change what “journalism” has become back into journalism.
Why have so many so-called journalists tried to become commentators. Reporting and commenting are two distinct disciplines and it is ridiculous to have amateurs pretending to do either. Very few people can. Right now,about the closest one to that is Maddow - she comments sometimes too much or too long, but she also breaks news on almost every show.
What health care debate? Just a lot of orchestrated shouting and attacks - debates should include opinions and reasoned comments from both sides - shouting is idiotic. Are we so dumb as a nation to believe that there are actually debates going on at this so-called town hall meeting?
Report thisBy eileen fleming, August 25, 2009 at 7:09 am Link to this comment
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Is the door really open Amy?
Well, i am still knocking because “The media should be a sanctuary for dissent. It is our job to go to where the silence is.”-Amy Goodman
Only because I had been a donor to Democracy NOW! in 2006, did I receive an invite to have lunch with Amy in 2007.
I seized the opportunity to fill her in that her 2004 interview with Mordechai Vanunu was major testimony against him in his freedom of speech trial which began in Israel in 2006.
I hoped that she would follow up with Vanunu before he was sentenced to six more months in jail for speaking to her in 2004.
But Amy didn’t make a call until July 2, 2007-AFTER Vanunu was sentenced and he refused to talk with her then.
When I returned to USA after my 7th trip to Israel Palestine, I left 4 phone messages for Amy’s producer, Sharif and sent email and snail mail letters informing them of my June 14, 2009 conversation with Vanunu, who said:
“They renewed the restrictions to not speak to foreigners until November.
“I meet foreigners every day. I am talking with people every day.
“But I am not writing or announcing the appeal until after it happens.
“It was scheduled for January, then May 6th and June 18th. Now I am waiting for a new court date.
“The Central Commander of the General Army testified in court that it is OK if I speak in public as long as I do not talk about nuclear weapons.
“I think the court will realize even if they send me back for three months-what will they do after that?
“It is all about freedom of speech.”
On July 6, 2009, Israeli Supreme Court President Dorit Beinish, continued to deny Vanunu the right to leave the Jewish state claiming his “case is still generating great interest, like any other security-related case. The media’s attention he gets is proof of that.”
Eileen Fleming, A Feature Correspondent for The Palestine Telegraph and Arabisto.com
Report thisFounder of WeAreWideAwake.org
Author of “Keep Hope Alive” and “Memoirs of a Nice Irish American ‘Girl’s’ Life in Occupied Territory”
Producer “30 Minutes with Vanunu” and “13 Minutes with Vanunu”
By eileen fleming, August 25, 2009 at 6:36 am Link to this comment
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Is the door really open Amy?
Only because I had been a donor to Democracy NOW! did I receive an invite to have lunch with Amy in 2007.
I seized the opportunity in April 2007 to fill her in that her 2004 interview with Mordechai Vanunu was major testimony against him in his freedom of speech trial in Israel.
I hoped that she would follow up with him before he was sentenced to 6 more months in jail for talking to her in 2004 after his release from 18 years-most all in solitary-for telling the truth and providing the photographic proof of Israel’s WMD program.
Amy did not get around to calling Vanunu, until after he was sentenced to six months on July 2, 2007.
When I returned to USA from my 7th trip to I-P, I phoned Amy’s producer, Sharif and sent email and snail mail letters to her and Sharif regarding my June 14, 2009 meeting with Vanunu, who said:
“They renewed the restrictions to not speak to foreigners until November.
“I meet foreigners every day. I am talking with people every day.
“But I am not writing or announcing the appeal until after it happens.
“It was scheduled for January, then May 6th and June 18th. Now I am waiting for a new court date.
“The Central Commander of the General Army testified in court that it is OK if I speak in public as long as I do not talk about nuclear weapons.”
Amy and her Producer ignored me.
On July 6, 2009, Israeli Supreme Court President Dorit Beinish continued to deny Vanunu the right to leave the Jewish State, claiming his “case is still generating great interest, like any other security-related case. The media’s attention he gets is proof of that.”
I-and my publishers- have been the only media who have been interested in Vanunu’s RIGHT to free speech and RIGHT to leave the state.
“Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.”-Article 13:2 UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” -Article 19. UN UDHR
Report thisEileen Fleming, A Feature Correspondent for The Palestine Telegraph and Arabisto.com
Founder of WeAreWideAwake.org
Author of “Keep Hope Alive” and “Memoirs of a Nice Irish American ‘Girl’s’ Life in Occupied Territory”
Producer “30 Minutes with Vanunu” and “13 Minutes with Vanunu”
By ChaoticGood, August 25, 2009 at 12:54 am Link to this comment
A comment that I read somewhere, I think it was Gore Vidal, but I’m not sure, started me thinking about the evolution of democracy. The comment was that in France, the government is afraid of the people and in America people are afraid of the government.
Amy Goodman says that people feel that they have been “hitting their heads against a wall” for a long time. And, she continues, that people are spontaneously organizing and starting to feel their power. That power is a very fearful thing to autocrats. That organization was very apparant during the last presidential election.
One of the major “mechanisms” facilitating this spontaneous organization is the video debate that TruthDig sponsored. It is also on FORA.TV and beginning on segments of CNN where twitter responses are live and commented on during the news broadcast.
The “empowerment” of people though media is the next stage of media evolution and that empowerment must be channelled through edutainment.
It is encouraging that the young are getting their news through non traditional means. That sea-change makes the tradtional media moguls very nervous and is destroying network TV and newspapers, but not Radio, Internet news and especially “Talk” Radio.
I see sites like Huffington Post aligning themselves with Facebook and Twitter. The same is happinging with CNN, MSNBC, FORA, and Truthdig but not, Fox News
because they rely on a passive uneducated audience for their survival. They would be “torn apart” in the internet talk world.
I can see a time in the not too distant future where an enterprising newssite uses internet video, talk radio, twitter, facebook, web-cams, calendar reminders, google chat rooms, second-life realities and other things I cannot imagine right now to create “happenings”, where people are no longer afraid.
Out of the meltdown, like a Phoenix, I have hope…
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