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Posted on May 26, 2009
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What was behind The Philadelphia Inquirer’s decision to give torture memo draftsman John Yoo a platform to air his views as a columnist? The paper’s publisher, Brian Tierney, endorses Yoo to WHYY’s “Radio Times” host Marty Moss-Coane, while fellow guest and Philadelphia Daily News journalist Will Bunch offers a different take on George W. Bush’s erstwhile legal adviser.

Click here to listen to Tierney, Moss-Coane and Bunch on WHYY’s “Radio Times.”

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By ThomasG, June 4 at 10:39 pm #

ardee:

ditto June 1, 12:50pm.

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By ardee, June 2 at 6:54 pm #

ThomasG, June 1 at 12:50 pm

Gee Thomas, speaking of ignorant, that last doozy of yours pegged you cold for all to see.

You just gotta find a reality to hold onto and a lesson in manners would also be an obvious need as well.

I wonder what I did to piss you off, other than accept the fact that you think we need someone to allow or disallow our right to speak freely, not rudely per se, but freely for certain.

I already knew you to be a stooge, by the by.

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By ThomasG, June 1 at 12:50 pm #

ardee:

No, just go back to your desk, sit down and shut up, like a good little kid with an empty head that should know to be quite when adults are talking. 

When you grow up you may have something to say, or you may not, who knows? But, until then keep quite and try not to be as foolish as you most probably are, as indicated by your posts.  If you keep quiet, no one will know how really ignorant you are, but when you keep talking, you make it apparent for everyone to see.

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By ardee, May 31 at 11:48 am #

ThomasG, May 30 at 11:55 am #
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ardee:

Hitler was inappropriately given a forum by the Weimar Republic; we need not redo the whole CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST situation that occurred in Germany to know that it is something that should be avoided at the present time in the United States; unless we as a people are looking for the same results that occurred with Hitler in Nazi Germany.
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I am so very happy to see you volunteer to be the arbiter of whom shall be allowed to speak and what the topics allowed will be. I rest easy knowing that the nations welfare is in the right hands and that things will now be so much better and more coherent as you will certainly ban or imprison those whom you feel unworthy of the right to speak out.

Hey,Thomas, should I pack my toothbrush?

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By ted tun, May 30 at 3:32 pm #
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Watching Bill Moyers Journal brought into perspective how terrible John Yoo’s legal gyrations have been for our entire nation. I reccomend watching it.
http://www.torturingdemocracy.org/

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By ThomasG, May 30 at 11:55 am #
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ardee:

Hitler was inappropriately given a forum by the Weimar Republic; we need not redo the whole CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST situation that occurred in Germany to know that it is something that should be avoided at the present time in the United States; unless we as a people are looking for the same results that occurred with Hitler in Nazi Germany.

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By Purple Girl, May 30 at 8:13 am #

Soemone should be checking into Cheney’s Hunting Buddy Scalia and his part in the Torture memos.
Yoo and Baybee are as inept as W- reading their ‘briefs’ one wonders how they possibley got through law school- let alone college.
But Scalia gave an interview long before the release of these Briefs which indicates he Knew exactly what the twisted ‘legal’ arguments would be once Torture methods were discovered.
Scalia parsed out ‘Punishment’ from Torture, in a very bizzare and innately UnAmerican way. According to Scalia’s definition and ‘Logic’ ,Torture is only used as punishment. And Punishment is only used once convicted of a crime. Since these Detainees had not been tried,nor sentenced to punsihement they were not being tortured.
What is glaringly missing from Scalias agruement is the fact torture is used to get information, not necessarily as a form of punishment. And is that not exactly what we have found they used Torture to obtain- justification for an illegal invasion into Iraq.
How many times had Cheney and Scalia been out hunting Together before torture began, before a legal loop hole was penned? How many times did Yoo and/or Baybee visit or correspond with Justice Scalia?
Come on all you so called ‘Investigative Reporters’ - do you actually think these two Bozo’s didn’t have a powrful legal ‘Ghost Writer’ behind them?
You think Cheney would not have assured he had at least one confederate in SCOTUS too? Dig Truth Dig,dig.Scalia’s in this Up to his Neck.

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By Joseph Bridy, May 28 at 8:30 pm #
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I have lived in Philly since the late 1960s. My Dad had the Inky delivered until the late 1980s. I read it every day, when he was done with it. I rarely buy it now. The Inquirer has become a second rate news paper under it’s recent “leadership” and a shadow of what it was in the 1970s and 1980s. Newspapers are not cash cows. Shrinking the product, culling the reporters, closing the bureaus and raising the price is not a normal business plan to “grow the business” in any enterprise. Yet that seems to be Tierney’s and the other investor’s current model. Hiring controversial and one dimensional editorial writers may help for a while with short term publicity, but in the long run, truth, facts, fair play and consistent quality keeps the bulk of the bell curve readers, not the small sliver coddled by an ever sliding slant to the right.

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By PSmith, May 27 at 2:00 pm #

REICH WING

Let us now praise, ER Remember, Rich Men. Specifically Bonkers-Reichwing-Rich Men.

THE ORIGINS OF THE OVERCLASS - STEVE KANGAS
> Nixon was making things worse with his own anti-poverty and regulatory programs. Between 1960 and 1973, these efforts cut poverty in half, from 22 to 11 percent. Meanwhile, between 1965 and 1976, the richest 1 percent had gone from owning 37 percent of America’s wealth to only 22 percent. (16)

> At a 1973 Conference Board meeting of top American business leaders, executives declared: “We are fighting for our lives,” “We are fighting a delaying action,” and “If we don’t take action now, we will see our own demise. We will evolve into another social democracy.” (17)

- http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass.html

Steve Kangas’s Liberal FAQ - http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm

Why was the author of that document shot twice in the head in Richard Mellon Scaife’s bathroom? Richard Mellon Scaife, the funder of the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ against Bill Clinton and backer of right wing nutcases everywhere.

- http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=steve+kangas+death&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq;=

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By Purple Girl, May 27 at 8:49 am #

Propaganda is a Prosecutable Crime when there have been acts of Treason and War crimes Committed.
So you media outlets who are working so hard to exonerate your overlords, giving them Unfettered access to spew more lies, You too can and Will be held legally responsible for Diseminating Propaganda, Abusing the Power of, and blocking our rights to, a Free Press.

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By ardee, May 27 at 6:07 am #

ThomasG, May 27 at 3:00 am #

What you refer to, and attempt to make more weighty by use of capitalization ( it doesn’t really work you know) is a matter for the courts.

Until and unless John Yoo is subpoenaed, tried, convicted and sentenced he is an innocent man and free to accept or be offered any position. Further I think that the light of day is the best way to expose the nature of this man’s lack of morality or sense of justice.

Do I think him reprehensible for his memos sanctioning torture, of course I do. Do I condemn the hiring of this man to write a column, I absolutely do not. Do I want him to be tried for his actions, I absolutely do. Do I want to suspend innocent until proven guilty, not ever, not for anyone.

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By Alfred di Genis, May 27 at 6:02 am #
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behind The Inquirer’s decision to hire John Yoo was publicity, and they’re getting plenty of it.

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By ThomasG, May 27 at 3:00 am #

John Yoo, under the influence and direction of President George W. Bush and the leadership of the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN government of the United States engaged in a carefully considered and thought through process of using the Office of Legal Council to REDEFINE the doctrine of understanding of the law beyond the original intent of the legislative judicial and executive branches of government, by using the power and prestige of the Office of Legal Council to subjectify the law and change the doctrine of understanding FROM its original intent to meet the needs of their sinister intentions; we can all pretend that this did not happen, and try to go on as if it did not, but this type of behavior will not change the fact that this is exactly what happened, and if nothing is done to redress this obscene and grievous miscarriage of both law and justice, it will have consequences that in time will be used again and again to the detriment and destruction of democracy and justice, under the rule of law.

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