ITW—You are right alot of the time. I guess I dont bother to say so unless i disagree. That is probably not good…

I disagre with you , as you know, on some things. But, I stil maintain that MOST people here on TD, if placed in mixed company, of people of all political persuasions, would find that they have much more in common, and, agree on much more, than the gen pop…

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ITW—You are absolutely correct on this one, to my mind.”
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Hey, even us broken clocks gotta be right twice a day!
That would be Fadel and me! (LOL)

ITW—You are absolutely correct on this one, to my mind.

Fadel Abdallah, March 21 at 11:15 pm #

“March 20, 2009 marks the 6th anniversary of the illegal, utterly unjustified, war criminal invasion of Iraq by US, UK and Australian forces. Post-invasion violent and non-violent excess deaths total 2.3 million and refugees total 6 million in a continuing Iraqi Holocaust and Genocide..”
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Hurrah! Fadel FINALLY posts something I can agree with, though I think the numbers are severely inflated, and this is a terribly sad subject to be in agreement on.  The most realistic number seems to be the still-horrifying number of 650,000 wrongful deaths.  Of course, to dead person and his/her family it doesn’t matter much.

You’ll be interested to know, Fadel, that I was pilloried on other boards for backing Jimmy Carter’s stance in early March 2003 that a war with Iraq was criminally insane.  I didn’t think it was a mistake, but rather a deliberately criminal planned enterprise that was looking for an excuse, no matter how flimsy it was.  The results have been disastrous for every party connected with it.

I think that war alone is justification for criminal charges against George Botch, both domestically and internationally.  Then again, I think there are SO many crimes Botch committed that he should spend a dozen lifetimes in jail.

Thanks, Outraged—good work!

That statement made me cringe, also. The rest of the world thinks that we are fools, maybe because we are.

I could name many things about it that were illegal, OR, at least, illegal before the neo-cons and neo-libs made everything that makes money legal.

I remember the day that GS gave Sen Obama that money, because it really bummed me out. I called my brother in law , who teaches law at a university in NYC. He sais that it wasnt really legal ,(or , at least not MORAL) but, he was “glad that the Dems were finally getting money that the gOp used to get”. maybe…I’m not. It is turning them into GOP.

That Blue Dog Coalition is being given way too much power. I dont know how in the world anyone can tell, say, Claire McCaskill or Conrad from Voinovich or Snowe—actually, the GOP night be better in this case.

I am with Krugman—this latest “buying trash” idea is the pits. It is terrifying. I wish teh Left had teh guts to turn up in the streets again. It is better than dying without food or medicine.

Pres. Obama needes to cut the campaigning, and, get to work—with someone other than Geithner.

Yesterday marked the 6th anniversary of the American led “axis of evil” terrorist attack on Iraq. I was hoping that Truthdig will post a thread related on this topic. However, since the Iraqi Holocaust is an inconvenient truth that criminal political-military America would wish to forget, someone needs to remind us all about all the blood we have on our hands!

Even Obama, who ran on a platform of opposition to the Iraqi war, and mostly won because of it, found it convenient to ignore the tragic anniversary, and made time to go and have fun and laugh on a comedian’s show! What a disappointment! Now that you’re in the White House, Mr. President, it’s expedient to even ignore the Iraqi Holocaust!

Most of us, never even cared about keeping a count on the Iraqi victims, but someone did, and here is the account!
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Iraqi Holocaust: 2.3 Million Iraqi Excess Deaths
By Gideon Polya

http://www.countercurrents.org/polya210309.htm

“March 20, 2009 marks the 6th anniversary of the illegal, utterly unjustified, war criminal invasion of Iraq by US, UK and Australian forces. Post-invasion violent and non-violent excess deaths total 2.3 million and refugees total 6 million in a continuing Iraqi Holocaust and Genocide..”

Pres. Obama said, “Here’s the dirty little secret though, most of the stuff that got us into trouble was perfectly legal.”

Was it…?  How can he be so sure if there is no investigation?  There are questions to be asked, and America wants them ASKED. As in this article by Eliot Spitzer:

“The appearance that this was all an inside job is overwhelming. AIG was nothing more than a conduit for huge capital flows to the same old suspects, with no reason or explanation.

* Why weren’t the counterparties immediately and fully disclosed?

Failure to answer these questions will feed the populist rage that is metastasizing very quickly. And it will raise basic questions about the competence of those who are supposedly guiding this economic policy.”

http://pdamerica.org/articles/news/2009-03-19-09-11-43-news.php

To outright suppose or decide that most of this situation was “perfectly legal”, is bogus.  The fact that Goldman Sachs and others in this den of thieves are doing so well via the “back door” bailouts is more than a little suspect.  Remember, how Sen. Dodd made certain the bonuses would be distributed…. $223,478.00 from AIG but there’s more, check it out.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00000581

Obama, $983,245.00 from Goldman Sachs.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000085

There are other large contributions from those that are receiving the “back door” bailouts and were “lucky” enough to stay afloat because of them.

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.php?cycle=2008&ind=F03

Collusion, extortion and fraud are illegal Pres. Obama and the America people want an investigation into the actions of those involved, including GUNTHER.

Elizabeth Drew’s analysis of Obama’s first thirty days for THE NEW YORK REVIEW (March 26 issue) set the perfect context for watching this new approach to reaching the American people:
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But the still-new President has a staggering number of challenges before him—an unusually, if not unprecedentedly high number of very difficult decisions to make on domestic and foreign policy.  Yet the President was traveling for most of his third and fourth full weeks in office.  A little more management may be in order.  The recent increased amount of presidential travel—to Indiana, Florida, Arizona, and Colorado—may have been another indication that Obama was not particularly happy in the White House, and that 2012 election politics were already on his and his aides’ minds.  John Dickerson, of Slate, said on WASHINGTON WEEK IN REVIEW on February 13 that the President’s aides had concluded that it handn’t been helpful for Obama to be seen participating in the give-and-take of Washington, that “that’s not what he was elected to do.”  Yes it is.
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This may be a good time to remember that Obama did not spend very much time at his “day job” while campaigning to get where he now is.  He put on a good show for Leno, but it looks like he is again neglecting his new day job for the sake of more campaigning!

You bet’ya Jay, it is an honor for the President to reach the American People through your show.