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David Brooks Calls Jindal’s Speech ‘Insane’ and ‘a Disaster’

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Posted on Feb 25, 2009
David Brooks

When civilizations collapse, mass hysteria ensues, often followed by cannibalism—a scenario familiar to the Republican Party, in which old friends are now turning on each other with reckless abandon.

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By Margaret Currey, February 28, 2009 at 12:48 pm Link to this comment
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Cyrena, Your Welcome

Margaret Currey

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By Marshall, February 27, 2009 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment

By Big B, February 27 at 5:32 pm #

“Is it not ironic that just two years ago we were talking about the decline and fall of the pitiful dimmocratic party. But fast forward, all it took to revive the “repug lite” party was a never ending war and an economic collapse…”

Which simply shows that the party in power is always only a step away from losing it.  If the economy doesn’t respond to obama’s mega-spending in the next 6 mos., we may well see a fatally damaged democratic party that got its way and blew it.

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By Big B, February 27, 2009 at 1:32 pm Link to this comment

Is it not ironic that just two years ago we were talking about the decline and fall of the pitiful dimmocratic party. But fast forward, all it took to revive the “repug lite” party was a never ending war and an economic collapse (although the true repug base has only one thought going through their heads right now, if we would not have tied our wagon to the lame McCain horsey, we just might have won the white house, but alas, poor old handsome Johnny pulled up lame down the stretch.) But I digress.

Do not nail the repug casket closed just yet. Because our copitulater and chief is still stuck on getting permission to implement an economic recovery package from the Boehners and McConnells of the world. Barry thinks of himself as another Reagan. Jebus! I hope not. Reagan did not gather dimmo support for his now tragic policies by kissing Ted Kennedy’s ass. No, he wrapped himself in the american flag, set the US military out to be world policemen, and spent money like a drunken sailor, all the while cutting taxes and telling americans that it was “un-patriotic” to oppose him. This satisfied his base, and garnered enough support from blue collar, flag waving american imbecils to stay in office for eight years that, as we look back, started the ball rolling to our economic and moral armageddon.

I tend to agree with Paul Krugman, we are not spending enough money on needed comodities, or re-regulating enough of the business sector to make a dent in the coming economic tribulation.

Better stock up on canned food and shotguns, Kiddies. it’s gonna be a long four years.

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By cyrena, February 27, 2009 at 12:48 am Link to this comment

“I have seen the fox and he does not guard the hen house very well.”

Margaret Curry,

I love this! It couldn’t be more appropriate.

Thanks!

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By Margaret Currey, February 26, 2009 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment
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Some people can see clearly and David Brooks is a right leaning person and for him to say this is refreshing.

Even though David Brooks leans to the right he certainly is no fool when he sees he writing on the wall.

I am certain that some Republicians will stop their extreme right wing ideas.

I have seen the fox and he does not guard the hen house very well.

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By skmacksk, February 26, 2009 at 3:02 pm Link to this comment

How can the Republicans change, when they are committed to laissez-faire as a matter of principle?
Jindel’s comments only make sense given that philosophical context. The Free Market Ideology got us in the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. And we haven’t even felt the full economic effect of this crisis. There is more bad news on its way, according to the experts.
There is a struggle in the Republican Party between the Pragmatist wing of the Party and the Ideologues: The Republican Pragmatists represented by Senators Collins, Snowe, and Specter. And by extension Governor Schwarzenegger and the six Republicans that voted to end the budget stalemate in California. The Republican Ideologues represented by Jindel, and a host of fellow travelers. Jindal represents a holistic Conservatism, not open to compromise with principle. As the deleterious consequences of the downturn work their way through our economy, will Obama’s imperative of bipartisanship, the political courage of the Pragmatist, and the philosophical sclerosis of the Republican Ideologues, precipitate the reinvigoration of the Pragmatist wing of the Party ? Mr. Brooks seems to miss the essentials, an explicable case of political myopia.

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By Marshall, February 26, 2009 at 1:15 am Link to this comment

By Nelson Robison, February 25 at 9:44 pm #

I think you’re a little confused on the history Nelson.  Neo-cons concerned themselves with foreign policy, not domestic policy.  The tax breaks you speak of were across the board, and the mythical “outsourcing” you mention is a bygone ‘04 campaign non-issue (fyi, clinton sponsored free trade policy anyway).

But i think we all agree that Jindal’s speech was a soporific, condescending “speech lite” (“we believe Americans can do ANYTHING!”) that only exposed the huge rift on the right and frankly scares me because i fear the U.S. could become a one party system after the right collapses.

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By GW=MCHammered, February 25, 2009 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment
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The eleFant rolled off the cliff.

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By Untenable Faith, February 25, 2009 at 10:31 pm Link to this comment
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Austrian economic policy involves Extremely tight regulation with extremely direct and punitive enforcement (anathema to most financial “libertarians”, whose free-market fundamentalism is generally predicated upon an incorrect premise, that of large markets functioning at all without regulation - in fact they are far more subject to being “gamed” and inherently undervalue risk). Austrian banks Are a great place to go if you wish to hide money or “offshore”, but there is not a whole lot of room for more of that in the world.

Additionlly, Austria is Famous for a generous social-democratic “nanny state” (anathema to US “libertarians” who generally prefer the idea that “free market” based health care, education, social insurance, roads, policing, etc. can work, despite nearly zero examples of any size, fewer in the first world), with universal health care (even to tourists!) and a relatively efficient social security system with different required minimum contributions scaled by income.

In some ways, Austria has been the polar opposite of the standard US “libertarian” ideology. There have been Some reforms in keeping with the E Union, and some competition introduced to a monolithic system, but an extensive social safety net along with large differentials in taxation to fund that safety net are VERY out of line with mainstream “libertarian” thought in the US and so cannot be claimed as a positive example.

Indeed, we have a great many Negative examples of “hands-off markets” ideology, Greenspan and other Ayn Rand cultists being examples. It is through the loss of the Bretton-Woods (Tight international financial regulation!) system in the 70’s that has led us to this pretty pass of unfettered speculation and international currency reinvestment (see Iceland). It was predicted (correctly) at the time, that the killing of Bretton-Woods would result in an Increase of bubbles and burst bubbles (recessions), the premise of the marketeers being that this could be harnassed for universal gain. Unfortunately, the folks who harnassed/manipulated such things didnt actually mean Universal, they were just talking about themselves.

The best examples of “long-term success” in halting and reversing a bank failure the first time are quite the opposite of the “libertarian” idealogy, namely the Swedish and Norwegian interventions in the 80’s. What Obama is doing is neither here nor there - he is continuing to throw money at the problem without the “accountability” he repeated so often in his statements.

The Chrysler bailout of the early 80’s was successful (until management again ran it into the ground, through love of the SUV and it’s margins and hatred of the efficient 4 cylinder compact that Iococca used to save the company) principally because the gvt demanded and recieved the ability to dictate to a degree the makeup of management, along with a preferred, more-than-proportionate stake in Chrysler that was then sold for a profit to the taxpayer after the company turned around (in part due to the K cars).

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By Outraged, February 25, 2009 at 10:29 pm Link to this comment

Re: Paolo

Your comment: “But there is no serious, intellectual opposition, outside of the small but sincere coterie of Ron Paul enthusiasts.

Austrian economics, folks. It’s the only long-term solution.”

There is much INTELLECTUAL OPPOSITION, are you being serious here, or simply talkin’ shit?

Austrian economics is more rightfully…a pile of shit, since one of its’ premises is that THINGS ARE IDEAL!  When/if you can provide qualitative proof to any period of history where things are IDEAL, we’ll have a “go around” otherwise, you proposition is simply nonsense.

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By espaz, February 25, 2009 at 7:20 pm Link to this comment
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i watched president obama’s address to congress on msn on my pc.  it was wonderfully refreshing to hear…OUR PRESIDENT ....  call for action on work on issues such as alternative energy and health care ....  it was like, “pinch me..am i dreaming” ! thank “god” we made it through the last eight years.  any how….  after that wonderful address i was a little puzzled when a little “minnie” “address” to the public immediately came on.  i was thinking ...“wtf is this shit ??”..BUT THEN THE GUY BEGAN SPEAKING !!  OMFG!!  at first i thought he was speaking to two year fn olds !  then the whole insulting thing came home to roost in a micro second.  how could those F’ers think they could get some nobody rebublican from nowhere to follow our new president with some sort of rebutle or something…at least, that’s what i figured was about to happen and shut that pup down…  that’s my take on it.
      TY for reading this crap.

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By photoshock, February 25, 2009 at 5:44 pm Link to this comment

Governor Bobby Jindal’s speech was a total disaster.
But for David Brooks, the eloquent and knowledgeable pundit to call it that is without doubt, the apex of the kind of criticism that the Republican Party has to hear.
We know now that the Grand Orgy Party, will spend like there’s no tomorrow, but only on plans that benefit the extremely wealthy and the Republican Party. The common man, the working class that has made this country so great, is left out in the cold within the Republican’s thinking and planning.
Based upon the last 2 elections, we must consider the
Grand Orgy Party something of a “dead elephant in the room,”  but we still cannot count them out of stealing any election, using subterfuge to remove a president from office, like they tried to do to Bill Clinton. All this in the name and cause of “patriotism.”
I, for one am not sad to see the neo-cons out of power right now, we do not need their brand of laissez-faire regulations, tax breaks for the wealthy and corporate welfare for those that take jobs and outsource them to countries with no worker’s
rights and little if any environmental laws.
We are fortunate that Barack Obama is president, for he can and does have the intelligence to stand up to
those within the ranks of the Republican party that want to return to business as usual.
Thank you David Brooks, for your cogent analysis of the speech given by Gov. Bobby Jindal, (R) Louisiana.

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By Paolo, February 25, 2009 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment

A libertarian perspective:

I tuned out Bobby Jindal’s speech as soon as he started talking about Mommy and Daddy. Pseudo-folksy corn-pone Republican talking points don’t sit well at this point in time (if they ever did).

So, we now have mewling, pathetic Republican big spenders allegedly challenging the Democratic big spenders.

Unfortunately, Obama’s approach is simply more of the same poison that got us into this mess in the first place. This will likely muck things up even worse than they are now. We could, seriously, be talking about another Great Depression.

But there is no serious, intellectual opposition, outside of the small but sincere coterie of Ron Paul enthusiasts.

Austrian economics, folks. It’s the only long-term solution.

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