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Livni Calls Gaza Airstrikes ‘an Answer’ to HamasPosted on Dec 28, 2008
Israeli Foreign Minister (and prime minister contender) Tzipi Livni responds to international criticism of the Gaza airstrikes that have killed hundreds: “The one who needs to be condemned by the international community is Hamas.” Meet the Press: Advertisement New and Improved CommentsIf you have trouble leaving a comment, review this help page. Still having problems? Let us know. If you find yourself moderated, take a moment to review our comment policy. |
By gerard, January 6, 2009 at 10:40 am Link to this comment
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Hamas was chosen by electors as the party to form the governement of the palestinian people. The electoral process was highly promoted by the USA.
The USA will accept the election of a foreign governement so long as it is pro USA. That is the US model of freedom of choice
But Hamas was not its choice, so they let Israel do the same thing that they did in many countries, the overthrowing of the legitimately elected government.
Israel is using the argument that it is the Hamas’s fault if there are that many casualties; the same as Bush says.
However, what would the US people say if Bush would tell them that it is Sadam Hussein’s fault if there were 4200 soldiers killed in Irak ; it is just as ridiculous.
The world watches the drama being lived by the palistinians while the US president complacently watches the murdering taking place; of course, one cannot expect much compassion from an organisation that has promoted the torture of innocent prisonners.
The spectacle that we are seeing in Gaza is simply revolting.
The israelis are taking their revenge for the holocaust. Let them not talk to me about it any more.
Report thisBy Marshall, January 6, 2009 at 4:00 am Link to this comment
By PatrickHenry, January 6 at 2:38 am #
Not likely that isreal will be going down i think. And regardless of where you place the blame for its territorial dispute with the palestinians, as long as it is a functioning state, it certainly can’t tolerate a constant barrage of missiles from its neighbor anymore than any other country would.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, January 6, 2009 at 3:38 am Link to this comment
By Marshall, January 5 at 9:03 pm #
I do believe in measured response.
This is not self defence, the Israelis are misusing the weapons they were given by the U.S. (whats new?)
In an age of nuclear weapons, we can’t allow rogue actions by punk ass nations like Israel, against a civilian populace which the U.S. can be identified with contrary to world opinion (U.N.)
Are zionist jews and gentiles that stupid that if they can’t do what they will hold the rest of the world hostage by nuclear blackmail.
Israel is setting itself up to have its clock cleaned. The Jews will survive as a race, Israel will not survive as a nation.
Report thisBy Marshall, January 5, 2009 at 10:03 pm Link to this comment
By PatrickHenry, January 5 at 5:41 pm #
Thanks Patrick - not sure where you think i contradicted but thanks for the ad hominem. how rare.
I’m aware that you view the Palestinian side as unified and faultless in this conflict - an easy position that ignores the complexities. But the Palestinian people, whether most realize it or not, are caught in the middle of an armed struggle between Hamas and Israel and will never find peace by continuing to blindly support a group whose agenda is the destruction of Israel, not peace for the Palestinian people.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, January 5, 2009 at 6:41 pm Link to this comment
By Marshall, January 5 at 5:24 pm #
You contadict yourself in the same paragraph, how rare.
As always you are talking out your ass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
Report thisBy Marshall, January 5, 2009 at 6:24 pm Link to this comment
By Hossein, January 3 at 3:36 am #
Actually, Hamas was not elected to power: it violently forced the fatah opposition out of Gaza and took over. And whether democratically elected or not, it must expect a response when it fires rockets into a neighboring country.
Report thisBy fatimatalk, January 5, 2009 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
SPREAD THE TRUTH!!
http://www.gazatalk.com
http://vimeo.com/2715560?pg=embed&sec=2715560
Report thisBy Fadel Abdallah, January 5, 2009 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment
Rabbi Weiss courageous stand against Zionism is an indication that religions properly understood and practiced can be a great liberating force in favor of peace, justice and human rights.
In contrast to this, people like Howard, Namer,Sepharad, Maani, Inherit The wind, some of whom claim to be secular Zionists, are proof that secular ideological fanaticism are more dangerous than those we normally associate with religious fanatics.
Sure, Israel has its good share of Jewish religious fanatics. However, the majority of the extremists fanatics come from the ranks of those who label themselves as secular Zionists.
Report thisBy Herman Rosenblat, January 4, 2009 at 5:31 am Link to this comment
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I have a definition for what an Israeli is:
Report thisA self absorbed Middle classed Fascist
By Robert, January 3, 2009 at 6:46 pm Link to this comment
Rabbi Weiss, Outside Annapolis Peace Confab, Rips Zionism:
Report thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w&feature=related
By Robert, January 3, 2009 at 6:36 pm Link to this comment
Rabbi Against Israel (Zionism)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE
Report thisBy Herman Rosenblat, January 3, 2009 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment
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4th November 2008 Israeli Special forces enter Gaza and killed 6 Palestinians after a Six Month Truce with Hamas.
(And this is despite a two year blockade of Gaza by Israel from land sea and air.)
But the story out there is Hamas suddenly, without reason, decided to break truce and fire home made rockets at Israel. None of the TV networks bothered to report the IDF starting it. (Except Haaretz, ironically).
Will Israeli lies never end?????
Report thisOr should we simply think about the Holocaust instead of an election coming up soon?
By Hossein, January 3, 2009 at 4:36 am Link to this comment
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US and European people pay tax and their governments give it to Israel to kill women and innocent children. Hamas was selected with Palestine nation vote. Why Israel surrounds Gaza and don’t let food and drug to wounded persons?
Report thisI think Democracy and Human right is a big lay in West.
By Sepharad, January 3, 2009 at 1:32 am Link to this comment
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Well, Fadel, we Jews are a learned people and have so darned many historians that one cannot be expected to have heard of, let alone read, every single one of them. Actually, I agree with Finkelstein re all the emphasis and fundraising based on the Holocaust for the reasons mentioned in my earlier post on this thread. Victimhood is an overrated posture but Hamas and Hezbollah butchers still think it works because they do everything they can to turn innocent Palestinians around them into collateral damage grist for their pr mill—pushing residents on top of weapons caches, next to rocket launchings, etc. Cowardly Islamist leaders worship victimhood and martyrdom for everyone but themselves: they hide underground while targeted airstrikes seek to destroy the rockets and the people who fire them—the same miserable killers who massacre fellow Palestinians they take to be collaborators with Israel or who belong to Fatah security forces. or who simply want to get the hell away from Gaza. The exception was one top Hamas leader, who stood above ground with his family and people for ideological reasons, WAS killed—such a novelty for Hamas leaders that much was made of that in the media.
By the way, Fadel, my historic specialty has not in the past been Israel but Islamic Spain, the Crusades and the Reconquista. I can guarantee you that Salah-ah-din would not be on the side of Hamas or Hezbollah or Al Quaeda or the sectarian violence all over the Moslem world. He was a righteous Kurd and Sunni, a fierce warrior, but never—not ever—a murderer. There is a difference. The Islamist world today is full of murderers but very few noble warriors. And the great Arab sage Ibn Khaldun (known to Latin speakers as Averroes) would have been shamed to see his religion and his culture represented by mullah-ridden jihadis, Hamas and Hezbollah. He would have said the same thing he said on fleeing Cordoba after other fundamentalists torched the great libraries of Cordoba: “There is no tyranny like the tyranny of priests.”
I’ve put the Reconquista book on hold, however, and am going deep into everything ever written by Brits, Ottomans, Arabs, Jews re Israel and Israelis from ancient times forward because there are so many half-truths and lies and agendas being bandied about that I’m finally convinced the survival of the Jewish people as well as Israel is again in question and the only way to fight ignorance and hate is with rationality. And, of course, guns. While in Israel I did NOT visit Yad Vashem: the point today is to not focus on the deaths of those 6 million Jews not to mention gypsies, homosexuals, and 20 million Russians as well as all the Yanks, Aussies, Euros, Brits, Japanese, Italians, Chinese, Germans and everyone else caught up in THAT great war. The point is to stop this craziness in its tracks because it is spreading everywhere, sweeping up all of us, at the moment particularly in subSaharan Africa. Oriana Fallaci, that great leftist journalist who covered all of the battles between free people and fascists of every stripe for her whole lifetime, was dropped by the politically correct and factually challenged when she had the temerity to write her last and arguably best books: Inshallah, Force of Reason, and Rage and Pride.
Frankly, I’m tired of trying to understand what is in the minds of Hamas et al. I almost hope Israel doesn’t launch a ground invasion: that whole nest of vipers holding all of Gaza hostage to their insane religious ideologies are not worth one single drop of one IDF soldier’s blood.
And to the truthdigger who compared Livni to the “Beast of Belsen”: Livni wants to SHARE Jerusalem with the Palestinians. But if they don’t want to share this world with us, I don’t see why we should even consider sharing it with them.
The only solution is to get off oil and get off it now.
Report thisBy Fadel Abdallah, January 2, 2009 at 12:28 pm Link to this comment
This is a little information about the noble and courageous Norman Finkelstein whom his fellow Jew, the so-called historian Sephared, has not heard about!
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“Norman Finkelstein on
The Holocaust Industry
The BBC wrote on their website:
Norman Finkelstein Jewish American historian Norman Finkelstein argues in his explosive new book, “The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering” that Holocaust remembrance has been exploited by the Jewish establishment.
In his book he contends that a greater threat to the memory of the Holocaust than Holocaust deniers is what he calls ‘The Holocaust Industry’.
He accuses those who exploit the Holocaust of telling lies and of naked greed. He argues that the ruthless industrialisation of the Holocaust has encouraged the rebirth of anti-semitism in Europe and the United States.
The son of survivors of the Warsaw ghetto and concentration camps, he says, “I do care about the memory of my family’s persecution. The current campaign of the Holocaust industry to extort money from Europe in the name of “needy Holocaust victims” has shrunk the moral stature of their martyrdom to that of a Monte Carlo casino.”
Neither Finkelstein’s book nor this website in any way excuses the actions of the Nazis, who (after being handed power by the German corporate capitalists in 1933) were eventually responsible for one of the greatest horrors ever to afflict Europe (the Second World War, as a consequence of which sixty million people died, including twenty million Russians). Awareness of the depravity exhibited by those who ran the Nazi state and the Nazi extermination campaigns should be part of any person’s education, and should never be forgotten (although this should not be used as an excuse to ignore other campaigns of genocide against non-Jewish peoples — equally deserving of the term “holocaust”).
But Finkelstein makes clear that the Holocaust Industry is not about making sure that Nazi depravity is not forgotten — it is about extorting huge sums of money from Switzerland, Germany and any other country which can be tarred with the Nazi brush.
Modern-day Germany has already atoned for the sins of the Nazi era, both morally and financially. Many times since the war (and even today) Germany’s leaders have expressed their profound regret at the actions of the Nazis, and have accepted collective responsibility for what happened. As Finkelstein says, “In the early 1950s, Germany entered into negotiations with Jewish institutions and signed indemnification agreements. It has paid out to date some $60bn.”
Although we may rightly feel contempt for the Germans of the 1920s and 1930s who supported Hitler, most of them are now dead. Germans born after the war (apart from a few young Nazi sympathizers) think very differently. Germany no longer has any reason to abase itself before the denunciation of its Nazi past. Especially not when that denunciation comes from those who appear to be motivated primarily by a desire for money.”
Report thisBy fatimatalk, January 2, 2009 at 11:26 am Link to this comment
Crying at the grave of your conscience
Report thisAn eye that cannot see the truth is blind
Drowning in the inferno of the forgotten
An ear that cannot hear the roar of reality is deaf
Struggling to wake you from your eternal sleep
A mouth that cannot say the truth is voiceless
Sowing the seeds of hope for the innocent
A heart that doesn’t beat for others is lifeless
Maybe you’ll realize everything once this night ends
When the silver moon sleeps
Or perhaps when I finish counting the stars
Gaza Stands Proud!
By PatrickHenry, January 2, 2009 at 11:00 am Link to this comment
Does “never again” mean unrestained air bombardment of an ill defended populace? No its just another jingo phrase used to justify any immoral action at any given time.
The Holocaust isn’t exclusively the property of jews and Israel didn’t exist at that time. I would think those who identify with the Holocaust would be more sensitive of plight of the Palestinian people and the 60 year attempt to subjugate them.
I admire their fighters, unpaid, on their own land and facing great odds against a foreign armed enemy who has no mercy.
I hope some donar country sends Hamas some stingers and RPGs. I wish it was America.
Report thisBy daviddixit, January 2, 2009 at 10:39 am Link to this comment
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We Europeans all do. Yet our sympathy for the people of Israel is fast dwindling.
Report thisSo let us now think about the Palestinians.
It appears to me that Miss Livni is no better than Hamas in her attitude towards violence and her apparent disregard for the lives of others.
She would certainly be a fitting successor as leader of Israel.
By Sepharad, January 2, 2009 at 3:21 am Link to this comment
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From a tiny town somewhere near the Gila River. Laundry is almost done, to be packed up and back to the backcountry with us. Too sleepy to reply fully and doubt it would matter anyway—you’ve mostly made up your minds. But a few thoughts:
Spinoza750—With a name like that you should know better. Israel is no way a “White Man’s Country.” Last time there, noticed that the groups of soldiers talking and laughing on the street corners of Jerusalem, Acre, Be’ersheva, were more integrated gender-ethnicity-race-wise than you seem to think. Typical group, a couple of olive-skinned Sephardic and lighter-skinned Ashkenazi Jews, a pale-skinned red-headed Russian Jew, Israeli Arabs who look exactly like many Mizrahi and other Israeli Jews—outsiders can’t tell most Middle Easterners apart—Obama-tan to very very dark Ethiopian Jews, usually about one or two young women with four to five young men. (Some of the Ethiopians don’t appreciate the way non-IDF Arabs refer to them as “kaffirs”.)
To various commenters—I like Tzipi. She wants to negotiate a divided Jerusalem so both Israelis and Palestinians can have it as a capital. If so, I definitely think that Temple Mount should have a Temple next to that Mosque covering up Abraham’s rock, if we want to get into really sharing the city.
But I don’t like it when ANYONE talks about the Holocaust. Like everyone else, I have relatives who went up the chimneys but it gives people the wrong impression. Makes them think Jews are pushovers and vulnerable. Commenting on increased numbers of American Jews emigrating to Israel, some Hamas big cheese said that he loved it—“Now they’ll all be in one place and we can get rid them all at once.” And I think Euro-Wasp types are more anti-Semitic than most Arabs. Forget it guys. Jewish blood is no longer cheap. The venomous posts and rhetoric that show up on many truthdig threads is the best argument there is for the need for a state, however small, where “Never again” actually means something.
Report thisBy Eso, January 2, 2009 at 1:19 am Link to this comment
I do agree with Tzipi Livni that Hamas is an underdog terrorist organization, long failing in its tactics, which is why Israel has been able FO the Palestinians with only mute outrage from the rest of the world. This is why Hamas needs to have its young terrorists prove their valor by proving that they are able to self-sacrificial acts that do not take any lives but their own.
The tactical details of this have to be worked out by Hamas, but its aim should be to shame the enemy into submission. Hamas is not without outside help if it were to embark on such a tactic. There is the Egyptian Brotherhood for one, there are its sympathizers in Lebanon, the internet is ubiquitous, and there is the Islamic religious leadership, even possible the Christian one. It is the self-sacrificial act, not terrorism, that has to be put in the face of the attackers and us onlookers. The present Hamas leadership does not appear to be able to work out such a tactic, because they are as much caught up in state fascism as the Israelis are. Both think of themselves as “ein Folk”. Change that to “one Earth”, shame the violent ones by proving that self-sacrifice on a large scale is possible.
Georges Bataille (who I mentioned in my previous post) writes of “Numantia”, a tragedy by Cervantes, which presents Roman general Scipio against the losing Numantines—who kill each other rather than surrender. I am not suggesting that the Palestinians kill each other. I am suggesting that the Muslim religious leadership help Hamas work out non-violent self-sacrificial tactics that through sustained non-violent action will render Israeli military tactics mute and give us our voices back.
Report thisBy Marshall, January 1, 2009 at 9:25 pm Link to this comment
This is a territorial dispute that has spawned a terrorist group that perpetuates the problem through violence at the expense of the Palestinians. These types of conflicts inevitably pile up blame on both sides, but no negotiation can take place until both sides acknowledge the other’s right to exist (one has, the other hasn’t). Therefore the bloodshed will continue.
Report thisBy Joseph Fattal, January 1, 2009 at 9:20 pm Link to this comment
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Right sweetie, I love that accent of hers. There is something wrong with her. I remember when Golda Myer was the prime minister of Israel. She waged a war against three front in 1967, and they won it. It took them 6 days. It is the 6th day in Gaza and they still shelling the city, they still fighting Hamas, they intend to send their ground forces into Gaza, there they will be for another week or more. Unless they kill eveyone in Gaza, Hamas will still be there. She isn’t got her hands on nothing, unless what she was talking about{ I’ll keep that to myself}.
Report thisBy Eso, January 1, 2009 at 8:51 pm Link to this comment
The talk of Annie get your gun kind stuff is offensive. It is a thought gone rotten. The last century cost Earth hundreds of millions of lives (of which five belonged to mine) and this century may cost as much—if the politicians and shallow thinkers are allowed to have their way.
I have recently been reading Georges Bataille (Visions of Excess, Selected Wrigings, 1927-1939; see Nietzschean Chronicle, transl. Allan Stoekl). Bataille is writing on fascism and communism, but it applies to our situation over 70 years later:
“The idea of a fatherland—which appears as a constituent of dramatic action—has only an external meaning, if one compares it to this religious truth. [Earlier Bataille writes of ‘death as the fundamental object of the communal activity of men…. but there has been a predominant tendency to see the reality of religion as a surface reality.’] Whatever their appearance, the symbols that govern the emotions are not among those that serve to represent or maintain the military existence of a people. Military existence even excludes any dramatization of this kind [As the kind writ in the brackets.] It is based on a brutal negation of any profound meaning of death and, if it is cadavers, it is only to make the living march in a straighter line.”
This is what I mean when I bring up in some of my responses the issue of self-sacrifice. It can be—if need be—a political tool (politicians prefer to dismiss it as suicide), a charismatic act upon the mind of the indifferent—without inflicting death on the innocent.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, January 1, 2009 at 7:23 pm Link to this comment
Tzipi Livni, an Israeli Sarah Palin
Report thisBy Herman Rosenblat, January 1, 2009 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment
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So raping and murdering your way to statehood…and then “making the Palestinians live like Dogs” (Moshe Dyan)....is somehow mitigated by the Holocaust???....Really?
If that is the case then the Native Americans have a right to claim back New York? Is it acceptable for Native Americans to Kill their way through Brooklyn and Manhatten, lest anyone forget their great suffering?
Think for a second….How many Israeli Jews are held in Palestinian Jails being systematically tortured. NONE. Of course Israel is threatened daily by Palestinian F-15, F-16 and F-18 Super Hornets suppled by Macdonnell Douglas And the Hamas Cobra Gunships.
I know a fascist when I see one and Israel is it. Except Israel has the nerve (chutzpah) to hide behide the Holocaust for ever violent act it perpetrates.
One would think the Holocaust would have Sensitized Israelis to other people’s suffering. Apparently not. Yes Israel is democratic…if you are Jewish. Otherwise it’s a case of “get to the back of the train, nigger”.
Don’t kid yourself: Israel is a Racist Militarized Society. And perhaps an off shore bank for Bernard Madoff.
Report thisBy namer, January 1, 2009 at 4:13 pm Link to this comment
Spinoza750, January 1 at 3:04 pm wrote:
“What is needed is the absolute defeat of all right wing ideologies. TO DO THAT WE WILL NEED GUNS AT A MINIMUM.”
Yeah, right. Go get some guns, dude. You will be cut down like blades of grass on a lazy Sunday afternoon. Free people will never allow (communists/totalitarian idealogues/anarchists/fascists - whichever retread loser category you happen to fall under) to threaten their freedoms again. Not after WWII and the fall of Communism in the 1990’s. Not as long as we read and learn from history and maintain our collective memory.
Report thisFool.
By Spinoza750, January 1, 2009 at 4:04 pm Link to this comment
> Israel is nothing more than a “Whites Only” club hooked on Self Pity like Crack Cocaine. Israel constantly says Palestinians don’t recognize Israel’s right to exist. Have Israelis ever recognized Palestinian’s right to exist????
> Israel the Pseudo-Liberal Hypocrit;
Israel is not pseudo-liberal, it is liberal, social democrat even but inherently capitalist. “Might makes right.” “we are the fittest”.
What is needed is the absolute defeat of all right wing ideologies. TO DO THAT WE WILL NEED GUNS AT A MINIMUM.
Report thisBy Fadel Abdallah, January 1, 2009 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment
Tzipi Livni is one of the few Israelis with ambitions to become Israeli prime minster in the upcoming Israeli elections. To qualify for this murderous post, she must prove to the Israeli establishment as well as to the American establishment that she can be the best terrorist-in-chief Israel needs. So this terrorist Israeli massacre in Gaza was necessary to bring her credentials to the forefront of public attention!
In my book she is political terrorist whore!
Report thisBy thebeerdoctor, January 1, 2009 at 6:28 am Link to this comment
re: Herman Rosenblat
Your comments about Bernie Madoff has me wondering too. I notice that the media hardly ever mentions that he is a member of the board at Yeshiva University. This is a very good question: in what fire did the $50 billion go up in smoke? Madoff’s ties to Zionist causes has also been downplayed. His relationship and funding of the pro-Israel lobby is mostly ignored, by simply calling them “philanthropic works”.
Report thisBy Eso, January 1, 2009 at 2:31 am Link to this comment
I can’t bear listening to Livni or any Israeli explaining their suffering state, their personal existential angst, the terrorism of those they have created as their enemies, their holocaust as a justification to bring a holocaust on others. All I can think of is that song about how “the harder they come, the harder they fall. One and all”. I hope it happens soon. Of course, Israel will fall in a wider context of disintegration in the West, but the signs are that it has begun to happen.
Report thisBy cyrena, January 1, 2009 at 12:55 am Link to this comment
By radson, December 31 at 5:48 pm
“Is it possible that the US has supplied to Israel such incredibly ( smart bombs ) that they recognize the difference between Hamas and the avereage joe’s of Gaza -defies all belief..”
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Yep, it defies ALL belief radson!!
Israel kicked-off this whole operation by dropping bombs on 30 different locations within the 146 hundred square miles into which 1.5 million people are squeezed, totally isolated (literally and figuratively) from the entire world, and yet in PLAIN SIGHT of the whole world.
Because….they can’t hide this any longer. For all the complaints of globalization and yes, even the Westernization of rapidly evolving technology, that is EXACTLY what puts this out in the open in a way that can no longer be hidden from the larger portions of our societies.
I suspect that there is a much larger movement in this demand to a halt to this genocide, because the world can’t just ‘stand-by’ any longer. But that also means the demise of Israel by its own hand, if they continue this long destructive path, even while the symptoms of the break down are so glaring.
All of the propaganda that could be ‘maintained’ for so many decades, all of the victim-hood mythology that’s been milked to the last drop is finally exposed for exactly what it is. Palestinian kids throwing rocks at IDF tanks and snipers are billed as suicide bombing terrorists, and these ‘rains of rockets’ are only *spoken of, the results of which are never produced as evidence on any form of media that reaches us. Now why IS that?
More and more, I’m starting to view these alleged rocket launchings as phantom operations, existent only in the minds of the Israelis. (who might also be shooting them at themselves for all we know)
Nothing would surprise me with them.
Report thisBy radson, December 31, 2008 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment
As i recall Hamas was elected by the Palestinians through a democratic process.Ms Livni has stated that she has nothing against the so-called ordinary people of Gaza-perhaps.Is it possible that the US has supplied to Israel such incredibly ( smart bombs ) that they recognize the difference between Hamas and the avereage joe’s of Gaza -defies all belief. The propaganda that the Zionists are presently deploying against the Palestinians is designed to divide the people of Gaza and manipulate the world in favor of the Zionists-in their war against terror.Anyone that follows this sad story may not be surprized by the Zionist tactiques ,first of all they claim that Hamas has violated the cease-fire ,after all the good humanitarian intentions displayed by the Israeli govt. secondly the world is reminded once again of the terrible stress that the Jewish settlers are undergoing in their daily lives ,because of Palestinian non-conformity.Would it be too much to ask Ms Livni to enjoy her next three week holiday in Gaza and tell the world how comfortable the Gulag Gazans are surviving,until then Ms Livni should heed Marek Edelmans’ council and learn something.
Report thisBy Robert, December 31, 2008 at 4:45 pm Link to this comment
Thanks to Nahida for posting the below URL. I must confess that the images are horrific.
May be Livni will get a chance to see them. Just a few days ago, she was tell the world…Israel is NOT killing Palestinian civilians in Gaza.
While you are at it, take a look at the “Sophisticated Kassam” rockets. They are “High Tech”???
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY:
http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/the-other-side-of-the-story
Report thisBy Fadel Abdallah, December 31, 2008 at 10:24 am Link to this comment
By thebeerdoctor, December 31 at 8:56 am #
re: Katsteevns
“According to UPI, Israel supported Hamas starting in the late 1970’s as a “counterbalance to the Palestine Liberation Organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas
Robert Fisk talks about this irony in his massive book The Great War For Civilisation, the conquest of the Middle East.
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I agree that it’s generally believed, even in the Arab world, that Israel helped create Hamas to counterbalance the PLO. However, since these things do not happen in the opening with formalized agreements, there is no way to document this assertion or the extend of its truth.
Having said this, I do personally believe that it’s possible that Israel might have initially entertained the possibility of supporting Hamas based on the old colonial concept of divide and rule. If it did, Israel was hoping that the PLO and Hamas will be locked permanently in internal Palestinian power struggle and killing each others while she be left to continue creating fact on the ground, which eventually will render both parties irrelevant to continue the resistance against the Israeli occupation of Palestine.
Report thisBy thebeerdoctor, December 31, 2008 at 9:56 am Link to this comment
re: Katsteevns
“According to UPI, Israel supported Hamas starting in the late 1970’s as a “counterbalance to the Palestine Liberation Organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas
Robert Fisk talks about this irony in his massive book The Great War For Civilisation, the conquest of the Middle East.
Report thisBy samosamo, December 31, 2008 at 9:56 am Link to this comment
Seems others have information that I don’t, as I haven’t heard of izrael creating their own enemy but I have started thinking of late that izrael could very well be supporting the war as in making sure that in this case hamas is supplied with the missiles for that ever so important perpetual war that both the US and izrael seem to want if for no other reason, making more and more money. Those izraeli fanatics are very devious people and one should never put something or anything pass them.
Report thisBy katsteevns, December 31, 2008 at 9:35 am Link to this comment
@ thebeerdoctor
Do you know of any documentation concerning Israel helping to create Hamas?
Report thisBy Herman Rosenblat, December 31, 2008 at 9:28 am Link to this comment
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Virginia777
Ohhh yes please remember the Holocaust. God forbid we don’t forget that. Even as we wield our American High tech weapons to grind down a penned in stinking filthy Palestinian scum who are starving, with no electrical power or medicine; Where unemployment is 48%. Where the Israeli patrol boat rammed a yacht full of medical supplies and Doctors in international waters. Yes please think of the Holocaust and the death camp called New Auschwitz (Gaza).
Israel has learned its lessons well from the Nazis. They should be given an Oscar for their pseudo Liberal wailing and gnashing of teeth.
“We can forgive the Palestinians for killing our children but we can’t forgive them for making us kill theirs.”......I think I’m going to be sick.
Report thisBy Virginia777, December 31, 2008 at 8:56 am Link to this comment
Whats happening in Gaza is HORRIBLE but that should not diminish the horror of what happened in Germany not all that long ago.
Systematic killing of innocent children is wrong!! It shows a country that has lost its moral mind.
America’s media must rise up in condemnation of this. Will it? Did it in 1940?
Check out “Buried by the Times” for the sad answer.
Report thisBy Herman Rosenblat, December 31, 2008 at 7:14 am Link to this comment
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Is Israel hiding the Madoff money?
Could the Gaza Turkey Shoot be just a misdirection ploy?
Me thinks Madoff Doesn’t protest too much. It is odd that Madoff went and confessed, smiling stupidly to the SEC about his “Fraud”. It doesn’t make sense. Has a CEO of a Hedge Fund ever confessed to anything? A lot of hedge funds were going down anyway as I’ve read (30%).
Could this all be nothing more than a giant TAX SCAM? If it was bad run on the market, the investors would have no option but to bear the loss. BUT if it could be proved to be a fraud, and Madoff has admitted as such, almost too willingly, then they can claim back their losses against paying taxes; basically getting the AMERICAN Tax Payer to foot the bill from the down turn of the market.
Ohhhhh Israel….what a tangled web we weave.
Report thisA word of advice…don’t go helping your rich friends incase you get the blame for being money grasping swindlers too. Or is this all part of the Game on the world stage?
By thebeerdoctor, December 31, 2008 at 2:32 am Link to this comment
So many on this thread have pointed out what is obvious if you look into it, but completely ignored by the mainstream news. The fact that Hamas was originally created with the assistance of Israel to counter balance the PLO, is the Frankenstein monster completely ignored. As others have said here: Israel is a state, not a religion.
Report thisThe comment about when has Israel ever recognized the Palestinians right to exist, is a question that never gets asked. My question is why do we give Israel any money at all? They have a quite profitable industry exporting all kinds of weapons. If they truly are a sovereign nation, they need to get through life without U.S. assistance, period.
By PatrickHenry, December 30, 2008 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment
Always nice to share.
For you Howard: http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=29449
Report thisBy Herman Rosenblat, December 30, 2008 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment
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Fadel
I am Not Herman Rosenblat.
I was being ironic in using his name. A name of a man who is profiteering from lies by perpetuating a myth that all Jews are money grabbing swindlers. Like Bernard Madoff, he is a disgrace. And if they both stopped to think how much damage they have done by behaving like Cliche’s (the kind Nazis said they were) they would die of shame. (If they had any shame.)
As for the current Gaza Turkey Shoot, that is Israel basically starving the Palestinians in their very own Auchwitz Camp. Yes,the Israelis do have a sense of Historical Irony, even if it is subconscious.
Israel is nothing more than a “Whites Only” club hooked on Self Pity like Crack Cocaine. Israel constantly says Palestinians don’t recognize Israel’s right to exist. Have Israelis ever recognized Palestinian’s right to exist????
Israel the Pseudo-Liberal Hypocrit; And of course I must be anti-semitic for saying this….Right???
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I still enjoyed your previous comment for which I have commended you! I hope it was coming from your heart and true conviction!
However, last night I heard the news of the faux memoir entitled “Angel at the Fence” by Herman Rosenblat about an embellished story of love during the Holocaust, which Opra Winfry introduced to her audience as a true story.
I am just curious! Are you the same person or you’re just impersonating that name!
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By Herman Rosenblat, December 30 at 1:22 am #
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“Why won’t the Palestinians die quietly in their open air prison we gave them? We starve them of food ,fuel, medicine and they still hate us. They don’t like the Concentration Camp we took the good time and trouble to make for them.
Report thisAnd still the Palestinians keep firing their high tech weapons from their F-18 Hornets at our luxury homes. Enough is enough.”
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Thank you Herman Rosenblat for your concise and pointed comment. It’s nice to hear the voice of truth from a noble Jew who would side with the truth rather than their erring fanatic brethren in Israel!
By Conservative Yankee, December 30, 2008 at 7:55 am Link to this comment
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““Israel has embarked on the great trip to the dark side.It’s creation based on deception and occultism, bear witness to the genocidal Lubuvitch, Hassidic cultists, whose lack of humanity and tolerance teaches us how deception and cruelty, lies and dishonor are the traits of the Zionist nation. Watch as Israel releases its atomic weapons against the world as it lashes out, its cruel hand grabbing the last vestiges of the human spirit.
Watch as Israel sets off an atomic weapon on US soil and we will see the finger pointed at Iran or Pakistan perhaps giving the Zionist nation the destructive glory it has sought.”
My Grandmother, before she died in 1963 said of Israel: “Do you think we could have lived with the Germans for so long and learn nothing from them?”
...andthis was before Israel really went rogue.
Report thisBy Herman Rosenblat, December 30, 2008 at 2:22 am Link to this comment
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Why won’t the Palestinians die quietly in their open air prison we gave them? We starve them of food ,fuel, medicine and they still hate us. They don’t like the Concentration Camp we took the good time and trouble to make for them.
Report thisAnd still the Palestinians keep firing their high tech weapons from their F-18 Hornets at our luxury homes. Enough is enough.
By cyrena, December 29, 2008 at 10:44 pm Link to this comment
Thank you Fadel, for the post from “The Jewish Voice for Peace.” They are one of many similar organizations to which I too have either donated services, or have otherwise collaborated with in addressing the injustices and yes - carnage, that Israel has wrecked upon its neighbors for well over 40 years now. Many of these same organizations operate right there in the area, doing what they can, with whatever power they have.
And thank YOU, dihey, for this:
“I urge you, Jesse, to read carefully what others write. Fadel wrote: “Be Warned Israeli Terrorists!” which you thoughtlessly translated into “Jewish Terrorists”.”
Israel is not a religion, it is a state.
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Indeed, Israel is NOT a religion. It is a STATE, and it is a ROGUE State, lacking all legitimacy on the world stage because of its blatant disregard for the laws of the land, and specifically Universal Human Rights.
It is literally impossible to deny that Israel has been, and is now, involved in raw and naked terrorism, and when we speak of that terrorism, we mean those people within the Israeli political apparatus who organize and perpetrate the terror.
Now there’s something else that Israeli apologists (goody, I get to use that word that is constantly used to tag me) never even bring up in their bashing of Hamas, (and Hezbollah as well for that matter). Both Hamas and Hezbollah are creations that came from the decades old persecution of the Arabs by Israel. They didn’t exist before the 1980’s, (1987 for Hamas and I THINK 1983 for Hezbollah, but you should check that) and came about ONLY because of the need to DEFEND THEMSELVES against the persecution of the Israelis, and to provide for the social services of the population.
They are products of Israels own making. And, it’s NOT like they didn’t know exactly what to expect, as evidenced by the oft posted quote from David Ben-Gurion, Israel’s first and third Prime Minister. I’ll paraphrase, since I don’t have the quote in front of me, “Of course the Arabs will be resentful and resistant, because WE’VE TAKEN THEIR LAND!!” Now that was decades ago, even before the slaughter kicked in full swing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
http://web.austin.utexas.edu/chenry/aip/fall05/bibs05/msg00015.htm
Report thisBy RickinSF, December 29, 2008 at 9:53 pm Link to this comment
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...note to Hollywood: If there’s a remake of “From Russia With Love” in the works, I think we have just the person to play Rosa Klebb.
Report thisBy DocReality, December 29, 2008 at 9:29 pm Link to this comment
Is this a woman or a barking dog? A transvestite perhaps? Soulless for sure.
Report thisIsrael has embarked on the great trip to the dark side.It’s creation based on deception and occultism, bear witness to the genocidal Lubuvitch, Hassidic cultists, whose lack of humanity and tolerance teaches us how deception and cruelty, lies and dishonor are the traits of the Zionist nation. Watch as Israel releases its atomic weapons against the world as it lashes out, its cruel hand grabbing the last vestiges of the human spirit.
Watch as Israel sets off an atomic weapon on US soil and we will see the finger pointed at Iran or Pakistan perhaps giving the Zionist nation the destructive glory it has sought.
These inbred animals know nothing of right from wrong, they had the power to bring the Palestinians into the fold, they had our dollars to do it, yet they wanted more and more, more land more death. See how the Zionists have raped the American economy like their brethren in Russia, this is what they have done to us. Will Americans ‘get it’ and fight back? Stay tuned.
By Fadel Abdallah, December 29, 2008 at 9:08 pm Link to this comment
As a subscriber and donor to “Jewish Voice For Peace” I received a message part of which is posted below. What a difference between between those noble Jews and the Zionist fanatics running the state of Israel!
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“The news about the attacks in Gaza is beyond words. “Appalling” doesn’t even come close.”
“U.S.-supplied Israeli F-16 warplanes and Apache helicopters have fired missiles and dropped over 100 tons of bombs on dozens of locations in the Israeli-occupied Gaza Strip. Over 300 people are dead and at least 1,400 more are injured. Many if not most of them are civilians. Food and medicine were already in short supply in Gaza and all medical facilities have been completely overwhelmed by this onslaught. Access to Gaza has been cut off by Israel.”
“This is the most violent and heartbreaking situation that has happened to the Palestinians in recent history, and it must stop. In addition to calling for protests at Israeli consulates and federal buildings, as well as letters to the U.S. and Israeli governments, Jewish Voice for Peace staff and members are already putting together an aggressive campaign focused on Gaza. And, without a moment to waste, we call for an immediate end to attacks on all civilians.”
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, December 29, 2008 at 4:44 pm Link to this comment
Now that is in your face revisionist history.
Report thisBy katsteevns, December 29, 2008 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment
This woman is out of her gourd.
Report thisBy mik, December 29, 2008 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment
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End the occupation, retreat to before 1968 and see what happens, because what is happening now is murder, and judging from the casualties Israelis sure know how to do shoah unto others using the same self serving excuses as did the original perpetrators.
Report thisBy Joshua, December 29, 2008 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment
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You seem very determined to spew as much
Report thisIsreali propaganda as possible. One common thread
in almost all comments in US media and blogs is
that Hamas fired rockets for years while the
Isrealis were pleading with them to stop. What a
bunch of bull. Isreal has been trying to systematically remove all Palestenian people from the land thatis under their occupation for the past 41 years. Think about it. Isreal has occupied Palestenian land for 41 years! in direct violation of
numerous UN resolutions (you know the thing that
is currently the only justification for the US war in
Iraw).
By samosamo, December 29, 2008 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
This bitch makes noises like w & dick. And now I see where w & dick got their idea of a ‘war on terror’ fromc or vice/versa, and that is from you radical sorry ass izraelis. So you have a segment of people that attack you and just as w & dick did and still do, you just go in and wipe everybody out. I try to understand the jew religion and have some jews as good friends but some where there are a bunch of izraeli paranoids that believe god gave them that land and gave them the right to kill innocents, giving jews in total a bad name.
Report thisJust keep it up, somewhere, somehow, down the road you will get yours and the sad thing is, just like your ‘kill em all and let god sort them out’ mentality, a lot good people that are jewish will have to suffer because of you.
By dihey, December 29, 2008 at 10:46 am Link to this comment
Jesse writes “The jewish hatred is rampant on this site and you encourage terroist mongering comments such as that made by Fadel Abdallah”.
I do not support Fadel’s position.
I urge you, Jesse, to read carefully what others write. Fadel wrote: “Be Warned Israeli Terrorists!” which you thoughtlessly translated into “Jewish Terrorists”.
Israel is not a religion, it is a state.
Report thisBy dihey, December 29, 2008 at 10:38 am Link to this comment
Tzipi c.s. are trembling in their undies because they may/will lose the coming elections to Netanyahu c.s. Like all tremblers they resort to sham muscularity i.c. posturing and lies.
Report thisDoes Israel have an obligation to stop the rocketing of its territory? Yes.
Do the Palestinians have the right to kick the occupiers (of the West Bank)out by any means? Yes, under the provisions of the Geneva Convention on Warfare they have this right. By any means including the rocketing of the territory of the occupier which, in this case, happens to live next door.
Taken together this means killing without an end in sight because neither side can “win” whatever that means.
Elsewhere I have argued that any resolution of the Israel/Palestine conflict needs a world leader not another Pilate in the White House who washes his hands in innocence. Sadly, Mr. Obama is cowardly hiding behind the lame excuse that he is not yet the commander-in-chief. What prevents him from stating what he will do differently from all previous US Governments, if anything different at all? Is he my leader or another Pilate?
No change by this AIPAC genuflector will produce exactly the same results for generations to come. And US taxpayers will be continued to be docked for billions every year to secure the safety of Israel. How much is the safety of the Palestinians worth? Obviously not a single US penny today.
By dejadejavu, December 29, 2008 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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At least Germany’s demonization over the 1930’s and 1940’s should moderate somewhat now that the U.S. has tortured and invaded Iraq without provocation and burned people alive with phosphorus bombs, (2nd time after doing the same in Vietnam with napalm), and Israel has their own and larger version of a Warsaw ghetto.
Report thisI firmly believe that underlying all this is religion. The Viet Cong had not accepted Jesus as their personal savior, so it was a moot point how soon they got to hell. The same applies to Palestinians, except for them they are considered trespassers on land given to the Jews by a Christian God. One should not be surprised by the Bush administrations reaction as Bush claims to be a Christian. Obama was vetted by Rick Warren and is also a Christian. They will both issue the compulsory regrets for the loss of Palestinian life but also reaffirm Israel’s right to continue the campaign and blame the Palestinians. The underlying program that is always running is the belief that their god did not give the land to the Palestinians. Talk of politics and policy just obscures the real issue.
By Jesse, December 29, 2008 at 8:42 am Link to this comment
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Wow. The jewish hatred is rampant on this site and you encourage terroist mongering comments such as that made by Fadel Abdallah.
Hamas has been picking a fight for a long time. They are the ones to blame for the failed peace talks and only fools would believe the hamas propoganda machine like you have.
Hamas is allowed to launch rockets and homocide bombers with no comdemnation from you. Its sad really.
Report thisBy bobo6, December 29, 2008 at 6:43 am Link to this comment
To say that I am a supporter of Hamas is a real stretch.My point is that there is more than enough blame on both sides but that Israel plays the victim card and all the while holds the strongest hand.They have the ability to withhold medicine,food,electricity,and other components requred for basic existence.It just seems to me that after being treated as the scapegoat for many years the Israeli’s would be in the forefront of humanitarian treatment of all people but instead have used their power to overrun and subjugate others.
Report thisBy Frank, December 29, 2008 at 6:29 am Link to this comment
If any western nation had groups from another nation launching rocket attacks on it’s civilian populations and the government of the offending county failing to act to stop these attacks from within it’s borders, they would have responded with substantial military strikes, or all out invasion. Israel is doing what any nation must do to protect it’s citizens.
Palestinians can’t harbor Hamas and then cry foul when an attacked nation responds.
Report thisBy gerard, December 29, 2008 at 6:21 am Link to this comment
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These strikes remind us of the attacks on Lebanon in 2006. To avenge the capture of two soldiers,Israel had undertaken of destroying that country killing hundreds of civilians until the international community had them to stop.
Israel says that the US would carry out the same type of operations if it was AlQaeda.
However, the USA did not establish themselves on land previously occupied by AlQaeda as the israeli did with the palestinians.
There is some hope, however, that the savagery of the israeli will cease some day, and that day is when China becomes a world power and bring support to the palestinians.
Only then, will the israeli accept to sit down with the palestinians and talk peace, otherwise…
Report thisBy cyrena, December 29, 2008 at 4:20 am Link to this comment
Anybody remember Golda Meir? Livni is her clone. (minus the golden hair)
Remember what happened to the ONLY Israeli Prime Minister who was willing to cooperate with the Palestinians? That was Rabin, and he was assassinated.
You’re right again Brewerstroupe, one can only weep for a news media (and the rest of the world) so plainly hostage to Israeli interests.
And yeah, of course this is a violation of the Geneva Conventions, but Israel has been in violation of the Geneva Conventions since its inception.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, December 29, 2008 at 4:14 am Link to this comment
If anyone should know why others fight an occupying force it would be the jews.
Hamas is Israel’s Frankenstein who has come home to roost.
This time with the link:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, December 29, 2008 at 4:13 am Link to this comment
If anyone should know why others fight an occupying force it would be the jews.
Hamas is Israel’s Frankenstein who has come home to roost.
Report thisBy Fadel Abdallah, December 28, 2008 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment
Be Warned Israeli Terrorists!
The blood of the Palestinian martyrs will turn in time to mighty rivers of warriors for justice that will sweep you away and cleanse the land from your filth!
It’s only a matter of time! And it will be too late for your repentance!
Report thisBy Fulloni Pulloni, December 28, 2008 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment
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BoBo6, The Jews in the Holocaust were not launching missiles at the Nazis in the middle of the night trying to hit their schools, hospitals, attack their buses and restaurants. Hamas preaches nothing but hatred, they teach their kids about the mideval blood libel - that Jews use non-Jewish blood for religious rituals. (This blood libel led to massacres all over Europe, pogroms, for hundreds of years)
What is Israel supposed to do? Will the missiles stop landing on Israeli cities if Israel lifts the blockade?
You see the Gazans as the innocent victims and this is a lie. If they want the blockade to be lifted and the air raids to stop, all they have to do is STOP LAUNCHING MISSILES TOWARDS ISRAELI CIVILIANS. Is this a violation of the Geneva convention? No one responded to this. I guess it’s ok if Jews are being targeted by missiles - G-d forbid the Jews try to defend themselves. The world is silent when the Jews are in the Warsaw Ghetto, but the second Jews try to defend themselves, the whole world calls them the “Nazis”.. it’s a sick world that we live in.
Report thisBy samosamo, December 28, 2008 at 8:29 pm Link to this comment
1. livni, you’re grinning and smiling too much for me to believe any sincere concern for the citizens in gaza.
Report this2. where are the citizens in gaza that would give commentary if it was not for the total izraeli blockade of gaza that will not even allow doctors, reporters and food into that area.
3. you claim that hamas is responsible for civilian deaths that comes from izraeli hands, a crass accusation if ever there was one.
4. the real izraeli position is ‘kill them all and let god sort them out’, so nuke em if you hate them that much.
5. you have the w & dick show backing you up 100% so that is what counts and unforturately for the world the next president will most likely follow that same agenda.
By JK, December 28, 2008 at 7:52 pm Link to this comment
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Livni, a former Mossad agent, spews nothing but Lies and false propaganda. She is slick and evil delivering Israel genocide-enabling talking points always with great righteous indignation and syrupy derision both for the starving defenseless Palestinian people and Human Rights in general. Always painting Israel as a victim frightened for its own existence.
All US aid to Israel shoot immediately stopped as demanded by US law that no aide can be provided if it will be used by the receiving nation to violate Human Rights, commit war crimes, or commit “Crimes against Humanity. Under the terms of the law, all aid to Israel in the past 50 years has been illegal.
It is nauseating for her to claim that it is Hamas who has violated the ceasefire that Israel has not honored from week one, all the while Israel continues their unrelenting slow genocide of the Palestinian people.
David Gregory is sycophantic enabler who not only did not challenge any of Livni’s bald-face lies but asked her leading questions designed to be approving of Israel’s atrocities.
As soon as Hamas was freely elected, Israel ramped up the death squads, the false flag attacks, and the destruction of Palestinian homes, orchards, livestock and water sources. All of these actions are clearly crimes against humanity, war crimes of an occupying force, and acts of terrorism against a civilian population under international law and under US law.
At long last do the news media or the US government have any sense of decency or support even the most basic principles of civilization.
This is indeed nauseating and has been for a long time. The atrocities would have stopped decades ago had it not been for the lone consistent veto of the United States representatives to the UN. It would have been stopped by the European Union had it not been for the US blocking any attempt to apply the rule of law, common sense, or mercy.
No commentator ever mentions that Israel has never said it accepts the right of Palestine to exist or even that it accepts the right of a single Palestinian to live unmutilated or unstarved.
It is time us to wake up and repent!!
Enough!!
Peace,
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By brewerstroupe, December 28, 2008 at 7:24 pm Link to this comment
How then do you explain these statistics :
123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
1,062 Israelis and at least 4,876 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000.
8,341 Israelis and 33,034 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000.
Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by none.
1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 10,756 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.
0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 18,147 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967.
Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
Report thisBy nahida, December 28, 2008 at 7:07 pm Link to this comment
Look at me
I would love to write poetry about love,
Paint rainbows and butterflies,
Smell the scent of rose buds,
And dance;
Dance with the melody of birds singing
I would love to close my eyes and see children smiling
No guns pointing at their heads
Tell them stories of little fairies in far away lands
Not bullets shooting… missile exploding
But
How can I?
There is a knife in my heart
I am hurting
Hurting
I bleed,
I cringe
I cry
HUMANITY, WHERE ARE YOU?
I am being slaughtered
Under your watchful eyes
I am cold… cold…. cold
I cringe
I cry
Humanity, where are you?
Why do you turn your face away?
Why do you keep looking the other way?
I am here
Languishing
In Gaza alleyways
Humanity, where are you?
Look at me
Look at me
I am here
In Gaza alleyways
I cringe
I cry
Humanity,
Report thisEnough turning the other way
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By dejadejavu, December 28, 2008 at 6:44 pm Link to this comment
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This will just go on and on until the Palestinians move to Jordan or somewhere else. The one and only true god personally gave that real estate to the Jews, according to the Jews, and Christians also believe the same story. Given that the government of Israel is Jewish, and the government of the U.S. is Christian, the Palestinians might as well give up the rest of their land and accept the inevitable.
Report thisBy bobo6, December 28, 2008 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment
Do the Israeli’s remember the Warsaw Ghetto when they were penned up like animals?Very similar to what they are doing to the Palestinians.Treat people like savages and they will react like savages.
Report thisBy Fulloni Pulloni, December 28, 2008 at 6:13 pm Link to this comment
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Reading this blog makes me sick to my stomach. Hamas has been launching missiles at Israeli civilians for the past 3 years! Is launching missiles at civilians acceptable according to the Geneva convention??? Hamas launches missiles from civilian centers, blatently against the Geneva convention! Israel is the only country in the world that would allow missiles to fall on her cities for 3 years.
A so called “police academy” is targeted for a very simple reason. This is a terrorist training camp where the so called “graduates” are trained to kill innocent civilians. They have every right to target such terrorist training camps in order to stop the death cultists from killing more innocent civilians in Israel. No army in the world does more to minimize civilian casualities than Israel. Read the facts!
Report thisBy brewerstroupe, December 28, 2008 at 5:03 pm Link to this comment
A disgusting display of sycophantic journalism.
Where were the questions:
Isn’t this attack in breach of the Geneva Convention?
Why was a Police Academy graduation ceremony next to a school the first target?
Why was the attack timed for the hour when schoolchildren were on the street.
Why was the attack planned six months ago when the truce was just beginning?
As for Livni, she could have a fine career in Hollywood portraying “Beast of Belsen” roles.
One can only weep for a news media so plainly hostage to Israeli interests.
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