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Gingrich on ‘Gay and Secular Fascism’ in America

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Posted on Nov 17, 2008
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Not only did Bill O’Reilly play a big part in constructing the notion of an ongoing culture war in America, but he’s determined to be the No. 1 embedded reporter on its front lines. Here, he talks to Newt Gingrich about the recent anti-Proposition 8 demonstrations around the U.S., which Gingrich believe point to a trend that should alarm the faithful—a determined effort by radical extremists to impose their will upon the land.

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By Sodium, November 22, 2008 at 9:09 am Link to this comment
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Both Newt Gingrich and Bill O’Reilly suffer from a serious disease called THE DIARRHEA OF THE MOUTH.

They both badly need the right kind of medicine to heal their mouths from their stinking DIARRHEA.Only KEITH OLBERMANN and RACHEL MADDOW can provide such a badly needed medicine.And I am NOT a gay person,but
most disgusted by their mean-spirited attitude and evil biases against gay people.

The real fascists are those who selectively ignore the true spirit of the American Constitution whenever and whatever fit their fascist agenda and evil minds.

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By diamond, November 20, 2008 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment

It would be of enormous benefit to all mankind if Bill O’Reilly and Newt Gingrich both developed permanent loss of voice. They talk nothing but shit so everyone would gain if they were no longer heard.

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By Hurt by Homophobia, November 19, 2008 at 6:52 pm Link to this comment
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Oh, eye of newt, what about all the German heterosexual fascists who were hellbent on destroying homosexuals in Nazi Germany and who you emulate so very well?

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By Hemi*, November 19, 2008 at 9:19 am Link to this comment

Newt and Billo are blind. Secular and gay rights in this country will be our last line of defense against Sharia law being implemented. Keep an eye on the Saudi’s “religious tolerance” agenda at the UN. Saudis begging for religious tolerance how f*cking quaint is that? Ever met a Saudi Christian? We already have US institutions bending over backwards for the Islamists. Prayer rooms in schools and colleges. Muslim taxi drivers refusing passengers carrying liquor. Any other taxi driver would be brought up on charges for refusing passengers. Seemingly small things.  Seemingly moderate things. Small things promoted on the surface by moderates but these are moderates pressured by sleeper cell fundamentalists. Homeland security my *ss.  Moderate Muslims lived and thrived here for decades without these accommodations. What has changed?

The fundamentalists are attacking us from within. Secular and gay protections in our laws will protect us all from this insidious attack. They will be the canary in this coalmine. We need to protect the minorities for the health of the majority.

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By boredwell, November 19, 2008 at 8:57 am Link to this comment

Newt Gingrich was having an affair with Calista BIsek, now his 3rd wife, while Clinton and Lewinsky were having theirs. Gingrich lead the call for CLinton’s impeachment.

The senate’s Ethics Board filed 84 charges of misconduct against the former speaker for “intentional and reckless disregard bor House rules.” He lied to the committee and put pressure on its members to drop charges. Gingrich was fined $300k for tax inrregularites.

In 1996, without enough votes to override CLinton’s budget veto, Gingrich allowed previous appropriations to expire. This resulted in a shut down of part of Federal government due to lack of funds. Tom DeLay reported in his book that this act was based on Gingrich’s “temper tantrum” when he and Robert Dole were seated at the back of Air Force during the trip to attend funeral of Yzhak Rabin in Israel.

Ad hominems and facts are admissable in public discourse. For Gingrich to tout traditional christian values is laughable. And what, if not, is this GOP-christian ethos-cum-ideology? It’s nothing but secular fascism, one touted and reaffirmed by Rove: to MAKE the GOP into America’s pan governing party, envisioning its dominance ad infinitum. Now that’s called pure and simple: political fascism.

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By nrobi, November 18, 2008 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment

In the words of Newt Gingrich, we are a Christian nation, one founded upon the principles of following the letter of the law.
Yet here we go again, Newt, deposed from his position for reasons of infidelity, the bloviator, Bill O’Reilly sued for reasons of sexual harassment, Ted Haggard, thrown out of the church he founded for drug use (methamphetamine), while having an affair with a homosexual prostitute. Can we name any more of these hypocrites who by dint of their salacious manner, cause disrepute on the Grand Orgy Party?
Conservatism is at an end in this country, liberalism is at an end in this country, we are now a one party system that pays heed to the corporate oligarchs who wield enormous power due to their wealth and prosperity. All this on the backs of workers in foreign countries, to which they have outsourced American jobs to and will not bring back.
Barack Obama, stated that he would pass bills requiring that companies that outsource jobs to foreign countries pay more in taxes than they are doing right now, which sum is practically nil.
If the president-elect had some backbone and did make these robber-barons pay up, then there would be no deficit, no long-term debt that our great-grand children will be paying on for the rest of their lives and all people regardless of ability to pay would receive a college education free of charge, no money from them required.
Newt and Bill are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to intolerance and bigotry. They have nothing better to do then to denigrate and deceive the people who are the backbone of this country.
Yet people will still listen to them because the are “good ‘mericans” and do not lie, cheat or steal from the people.
Should they turn away from their deception, I would gladly embrace them, yet I hold no hope out that the neo-conservative Republicans will change their ways and again become the Republicans that I knew and grew up with.

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By xyzaffair, November 18, 2008 at 12:37 pm Link to this comment
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Talk about radical extremists:  Recall the 1994 elections, when Herr Gingreich declared a Contract with America, in which conservatives like him would supposedly change the course of American history.  They used their power to impeach Clinton for having an affair.  Later, George W. Bush would tell the American public Saddam Hussein had purchased yellow cake uranium from Niger when evidence that the report was false had been available to him for months.  Why isn’t Gingreich calling for Bush’s impeachment?

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By Grousefeather, November 18, 2008 at 12:31 pm Link to this comment
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The big lie told over and over again is: “This is a center right country.”

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By Benj, November 18, 2008 at 12:23 pm Link to this comment
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Historical?

Is that the new buzzword? Cause the History of Religion is not too pretty.

and Bill-o He hasn’t been the “speaker” for a while

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By johnnyfarout, November 18, 2008 at 11:45 am Link to this comment

Whenever I hear Newt talk about anything it sends tremors down my spine, and up go my cackles. Seems he is the original “first to speak bad advice”. He has always been out of touch with who Americans are and what difficulties we have been living with, from day one.  I see an air head with a gift for blather, a chubby bully with pasty weak hands; the kid who always had his hand up to talk off subject and get beat up at recess; all that is a long time ago for Newt (sic). Now his nasty opinions get ‘air time’ from other nasties who got beat up in their school yards too. The one saving grace of Newty is that he’s a reader, and a prodigious one too… http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A27WFYW9ZJ5DN1/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp
…as seen by this link, he just can’t help ‘getting the message out’. Disturbingly, that message is sent down to us, who obviously need direction from an ‘egg head’, and Newt, feeling his own yolk trapped in his all-American soul, just has to let us know how it felt all those years ago, when some ruffian pushed him in the dirt, and he wanted to roll back up off the ground, and in a savage bravado of over heated albumen, scratch that kids eyes out. It’s why Newty consistently starts his showers of verbiage with the declaration, ‘Look’, distracting us from thinking our own thoughts about, in this case, civil rights, and how that idea translates to legal benefits for gay people, who evidently, according to blow hards like O’Reilly, have opposite humanity from us straights. So in the end it is size that matters and these two make a consummate pair of what not to emulate across this great and powerful dumbass land. They bring up traditions, as if there are any here in America besides screwing every minority as much as possible, and sweeping it under the throw rugs of history. Was it Churchill who said, ‘Don’t speak to me of Naval Tradition, it’s all sodomy, rum, and lashes.” So Newty glows again with treachery, as he does whenever he can catch the spotlight. Off he goes again to the plain and simple use of ‘contracts with America’, or contracts with contractors; I say contract this big boy! Meet me in the dark alley behind the church and be sure to bring your penis. These two love feeling riled up. Real pirates of the MSM; ‘Avast ye’ mateys…show us your rum!’ In what sense is this guy still ‘speaker’? Didn’t he get defrocked from that, for god’s sake? Stick to Amazon , Newt, we’re all better off if you’d contract that little bit.

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By AnAmericaninGermany, November 18, 2008 at 11:04 am Link to this comment

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Newt the same guy that led the charge against Bill Clinton during his second term, totally obsessed with his sex life and whatever “lies” he might have told to cover up his profligate, sexual activity?  Didn’t that same obsession DOMINATE every political agenda and activity in his zeal to behead the Clintonian sex monster?  Didn’t Clinton spend an inordinate amount of time and energy fighting these charges, thus occupying his attention and coloring his political decisions during a time when Osama bin Laden was laying siege to American interests overseas and planning 9/11?  I think it can be said that if Newt hadn’t been so obsessed with Clinton’s sex life we might not have had a president whose eye was off the ball.

I think it can also be said that during that whole time Newt was having an affair and leaving his wife to die of cancer; alone.

Yeah… I need morality tales and lessons from you Mr Gingrich.  As far as I am concerned, you’ve had your chance at marriage and totally screwed it up.  Keep your hypocrite hands off my Constitution and my rights!

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By Thomas Mc, November 18, 2008 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

Nobody knows fascism more intricately than Newt Gingrich.

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By sophrosyne, November 18, 2008 at 10:30 am Link to this comment
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Neo-cons could not care less about the values voters or the rabid right (white) wing less they provide a vehicle for power.  That is what they did under Bush, the perfect stooge.  Look for the neo-cons to pursue their real agenda and to abandon the sinking Republican party if they cannot get power and keep it tMany have decamped already for Obama.

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By southparker, November 18, 2008 at 10:27 am Link to this comment
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At least he is getting closer to what these people really feel.  I’m so tired of the old argument made by the religious right that marriage must remain sacred because it is meant as a means of procreation, blah, blah, blah, when what they really mean is “God hates fags”, homosexuals are going to hell, etc.  If they could only be honest in what they’re saying.  They have no good argument and they know it.  Who’s pushing who’s beliefs on whom?

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By Purple Girl, November 18, 2008 at 8:49 am Link to this comment

Let’s see now, How about the Bombing of Clinics, how about the assasination of MD’s, or how about the Pipebombing at the Atlanta Olympics. Or how about the entire history of Heirarchial Religions like Catholism and Protestantism- hell these Two ‘Christian’ sects have spent centuries killing each other and slaughtering those who were allied with neither.
‘A woman got a Cross slapped out of her hand’ Whoa now that some violence we’d better restrain before it causes a global ‘Holy War’ are something like Armegeddon ah? PLEASE!!!!
Seems Newt has jumped the wrong away again- day late dollar short dumbass. The ‘Moral Majority’ aka ‘Religious right’ can’t win an election anymore Buddy. Huckabee was trampled and even your Whore Mac could make up the difference trying to bring in the Less sociopathtic religious Freaks.
But I must concede the tactics being used by many on the far left cause more problems than they solve. Lefties Must not lower their standards to the tactics used by the psychotic right. It kind of undermines our position. Freedom for all, including those who hate Gays & Lesbians.
What we have to remind them is that such things are not ‘contagious’ and if they don’t agree with it, nobody is going to force you to have sex with someone your own gender. Funny how when it works for the Religious right we are ‘all God’s Children’ and yet when such a premise is put to the test they miraculously forget that line. apparently it’s a recruitment tool instead of a belief or conviction.
But I am glad to see Newt align himself with the antiquated, and REJECTED Releidious Right, that assures he won’t have an icecubes Chance in Hell winning the nomination in 4 yrs….Good Bye Newt!The nation is not buying any more Religious Snake Oil, better find a new profession…I hear The Taliban needs a new spokeman!

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By Jim Yell, November 18, 2008 at 7:42 am Link to this comment
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I observed years and years ago that a Newt is a liziroid creature hardly evolved at all. That this paragon of marital Infidelity should be allowed an opinion on other peoples marriage is amusing at lest.

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By Dave24, November 18, 2008 at 7:40 am Link to this comment

When these lunatic neoconservatives start using “secular” with a negative connotation, every one of us should feel threatened.

Newt and Bill and those who think like them are the cancers of this Nation.

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By Dag Andersson, November 18, 2008 at 4:52 am Link to this comment

How can fighting for the Constitution be Fascism ?
 

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

  I am as straight as can be (at least sexually) but what is my freedom worth if ‘Im not willing to fight for those who feel different from me, or have a different opinion.
 
  It is true that America is becoming a fascist state under Bush:
  Naomi Wolf on Fascism in America
  It is also true what Sinclair Lewis said :

If fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag, waving the cross,

(and preaching free markets)
  Her is a list of symptoms of Fascism—from Consil for Secular Humanism
 

  1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
  2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
  3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
  4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
  5. Rampant sexism.
  6. A controlled mass media.
  7. Obsession with national security
  8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
  9. Power of corporations protected.
  10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
  11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
  12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
  13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
  14. Fraudulent elections
 
 
 

 

 
 
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By Inherit The Wind, November 18, 2008 at 4:44 am Link to this comment

I see these anti-Gay “initiatives” as the new 21st century Jim Crow laws, laws the restrict one group’s rights for the benefit of another’s.

The kicker is that the group that “benefits” gets nothing more than exclusivity of “marriage”.

My own convictions tell me that a private civil union can be between ANY two consenting adults. “Marriage” should have NO legal standing.  Let religions and NGOs define what they accept as “Marriage”.  It will have NO effect on me, my wife, or my kids.

We are hurting a minority solely as a “feel-good” device for religious fanatics and the ignorant.

The new Jim Crow laws.

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By Outraged, November 18, 2008 at 12:23 am Link to this comment

Some other things Newt has said….

”“If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don’t have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but they’re relatively rare. On the other hand, men are basically little piglets, you drop them in the ditch, they roll around in it, doesn’t matter, you know. These things are very real. On the other hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class cruiser managing the computer controls for twelve ships and their rockets, a female may be again dramatically
better than a male who gets very, very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time because males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

“The idea that a congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument.”

“You talk about crying! The spring of 1988, I spent a fair length of time trying to come to grips with who I was and the habits I had, and what they did to people that I truly loved. I really spent a period of time where, I suspect, I cried three or four times a week. I read Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Them and I found frightening pieces that related to…my own life.”

So then…. there you have it, that’s Newt, in his own words… consider the mentality of a person like that….!??!?!  My favorite….“I read Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Them and found frightening pieces that related to… my own life”

Of course…that other comment “men are basically little piglets, you drop them in the ditch, they roll around in it, doesn’t matter, you know.”

Don’t worry Newt…you’re not alone.  Many of us find you FRIGHTENING.

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By P. T., November 17, 2008 at 10:17 pm Link to this comment

If it were fascism, right-wing crook Gingrich would be supporting it.

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By Betty, November 17, 2008 at 9:45 pm Link to this comment
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Gingrich’s sister. Cheney’s daughter. Don’t these people care about their OWN families, even if they don’t care about mine?

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By Robert, November 17, 2008 at 8:11 pm Link to this comment
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Newt Gingrich is a has been idiot who has done everything he can to demonize gay people.  He is a hypocrit who led the impeachment against Clinton for having an affair only to be outed later as having had an affair during this same time himself. 

Bill Reilly and Newt Gingrich together…  not much better than Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson blaming gays for 9/11.  Not much more substantive either.

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