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‘Middle East 101’ for Biden and PalinPosted on Oct 3, 2008
“Mosaic Intelligence Report” host Jamal Dajani is distinctly unimpressed with the level of knowledge about the Middle East displayed by Sarah Palin and Joe Biden during Thursday night’s vice presidential debate. Here, he offers both candidates some pointers on how they can brush up for their next round of campaigning (and no, just being able to pronounce “Ahmadinejad” without tripping up isn’t enough). Link TV: Elsewhere: . CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment
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By AlaskanVoter, October 6, 2008 at 3:51 pm #
ALASKA GOVERNOR - RECALL!!!
I am a Alaskan life voting Republican. This 2008 Election, I will [with pleasure] vote Democrat! This Alaska Governor has destroyed “MANY GOOD ALASKAN PEOPLE(s) Professionally and Politically during her “VERY SHORT” term position as Mayor in a small community Wasilla, Ak (Approx 5,000 + residents during her reign) and current Alaska State Governor.(of approx. twenty months). Whenever Palin is confronted with a question that she does not know, does not have a clue or simply does not want to answer, her indignation which turns to…ANGER…is familiar. McCains’’ V.P. selection Sarah Palin unequivocally has no business being the Alaska Governor, let alone, a USA candidate for Vice President…. Maverick??..... ****AMERICA SHOULD BE FEARFULLY CONCERNED****. I voted for Sarah Palin in Alaskas 2006 Governor Election. MISTAKE! Never Again… I repeat-NEVER AGAIN!!...Alaska Governor Palin is an absolute Embarrassment to the Alaska People and “IS” proven to be an insatiable Liar!! How can she possibly ASSUME the ability to clean up America, when she cannot clean the ‘MESS” she has created in Alaska. Yes, A Mess FOR Alaskans to clean up. McCain, you should be ASHAMED of yourself!!!! This victim (palin)has no business in this Presidential Arena.
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By walldizo, October 5, 2008 at 3:35 pm #
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Felt disgusted to hear both VP candidates competing each other on how they love and adore Israel while neglicting the fact that the way to regaining American credibility among the Arab and Muslim worlds pass through fare settlment of the Palestinan Issue.Appeasing Israel at all costs, indicates how poor both VP candidates are in projecting a workable solution to the most imprtant issue in the region.Its not the surge that matters most to the Arabs, which is highly politicized to enhance electoral objetives,but Arab-Israeli conflict that should be given due consideration by the coming Administration.Giving Arabs their legitimate rights accoring to all UN resolution pertaining to this conflict,would certainly open the doors for a new and meaningful relations with the US.American reputation is reaching bottom low among Arabs and peace loving people in the world and should current policies be permitted to persist,considering the widening world divide,American interest would be seriously threatened.
Report thisBy mill, October 5, 2008 at 2:55 pm #
Mr. Obama is a Christian who attends Christian services more than Mr. McCain - does McCain attend church other than when he’s shaking down the pastor for political support?
Obama’s mother is white. That not enough to be considered white? is it skin tone? Then most of my white friends become “black” in the summer, when they acquire tans close to the tone of Mr. Obama. Should that affect how we view Mr. Obama? Shouldn’t other things matter more?
Is McCain really a devout “Gambler” than Christian? He attends many casinos - more than churches, riding on their thanks to his shameless promotion of casino interests - how do devout Christians feel about McCain’s frequent gambling in Reno and Las Vegas?
If you think that a candidate should be white and Christian as Mr. Obama, not a faithless gambler as Mr. McCain, perhaps Mr. Obama is your candidate.
I’d rather people vote for the candidate who’s policies make the most sense for our national interest, setting aside race or religion or even taste for gambling. The Constitution constrains government from setting a religious test for public office. Do people believe the Constitution was wisely drafted on that point?
Meanwhile, on substance, Mr. McCain both helped engineer and then supported Bush’s policies that lead to the current unsuccessful wars, disaster rescue failures, and financial system failures. He helped cause the current mess. Mr. Obama is the better candidate on substance. Let’s hope people focus on that.
Report thisBy Jenintina, October 5, 2008 at 1:10 am #
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This Mosaic Intelligence report offers a refreshing breath of fresh air. Finally we a glimpse of information that is provided from the perspective of people from the Middle East instead of blind arrogance that assumes we know more about the region and what is good for it than the people who live there.
Report thisBy Margaret Currey, October 5, 2008 at 12:09 am #
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Why do people think that Obama is a muslim, a person can be Jewish and not be of the religion so Obama might have a muslim name but he is certainly not muslim.
I once met a priest who had a name of Singer, but even though he was Jewish by birth he decided to become a Roman Catholic Priest.
I think people are either thick or they want him to be muslim so they have an excuse not to vote for him.
Report thisBy wildflower, October 4, 2008 at 10:48 pm #
Re: nvt9
You’re mistaken about Obama’s religious views, but I suspect you know this already. Even if it were true, however, what difference would it make? In America, we have freedom in religion . . . but maybe you aren’t American and just didn’t understand this.
Report thisBy wildflower, October 4, 2008 at 10:38 pm #
Thanks for the “101” clarification, Jamal Dajani.
Report thisBy Paolo, October 4, 2008 at 7:23 pm #
If you go to various European news sites, you will notice that the name “Ahmadinejad” is typically hyphenated, which gives you a much better indication as to how it should be pronounced. The better spelling is “Ahmadi-Nejad.” The hyphenation indicates the compound nature of the name, much like “Abdul-Jabbar” for the famous basketball player.
Of course, our masters in Washington would never trouble themselves with such minutiae as learning to pronounce a foreign president’s name correctly. After all, they view themselves as masters of the world, and they’ll pronounce it any damned way they see fit.
Maybe McCain, before saying he won’t meet with a foreign leader like the dastardly leader of Spain (yes, he actually said he would not meet with the leader of our NATO ally until he was convinced Spain was committed to “democracy”), should learn the leader’s name, and maybe even how to pronounce it.
Report thisBy kevin, October 4, 2008 at 5:07 pm #
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Bless your hearts, Biden will show Obama how to be president because Obama has only 4 years of experience as senator. Obama still does not have as much experience as Palin. How could that happen?
Report thisBy nvt9, October 4, 2008 at 4:57 pm #
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Biden said a lot about what McCain did and did not do but did not say much about what Obama, the black muslim presidential candidate, is going to do. I hope America won’t become a muslim country!
Report thisBy Conservative Not NeoCon, October 4, 2008 at 3:22 pm #
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Palin is Pure Cotton Candy. Watching that debate I saw Palin act like a junior high school student using her cute little nose to tease and wink at the audience while avoiding treating this as a real job. Her little “shout out” was like something out of American Idol. She never promoted McCain, even suggested she had her own agenda, what ever that was it was also vague and she didn’t even outline any plans, I mean she completely ignored the questions and continued this little junior high school girl tease. WTF? Biden however, connected with me. He was on the mark with the issues, the solutions, the direction of a prosperous America and as for personal connection, I didn’t know him before but he’s got my vote after this debate, he came across as a genuine caring father, a real person who’s been through some tough times, as a respected statesman who fights for the people, as someone who talks to me instead of down at me like McCain or an aloof Palin who treats me like I’m some Joe Sixpack frat boy in love with her. Obama and Biden get it as for McCain, you Senator, picked pure Cotton Candy for the VP position and what ever respect I once had for you is gone now.
Report thisBy Mary, October 4, 2008 at 2:20 pm #
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Sarah Palin used the word madrassa as if to say it is a negative thing. It is simply the translation for ‘school’ into Arabic; which is also not the colloquial language spoken in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Madrassa means nothing more than school until you provide an adjective like ‘secular’ or ‘religious’. My point is this, if Sarah Palin speaks on a level that makes Americans look like we don’t regard their culture and religion as equal to ours (assuming ours is different than theirs… some of us are Muslim, too), they will not care what we have to say. They will not want our help, because we begin to appear ignorant and pompous. She must learn to speak clearly to describe what she means when she makes such a statement. If she were to say we wanted to help establish unbiased, proactive, and positive learning environments within their schools to fight the biased and negative Taliban infused education they are receiving… this may seem more on the lines with what we want and many of them (in Afghanistan and Pakistan) would want. Her experience and understanding of the rest of the world scares me.
Report thisBy tolstoy, October 4, 2008 at 12:53 pm #
In the “debate” propaganda and ignorance joined together, especially with Palin’s tired old baloney about the US as responsible for success with “the surge.” Illusions over the middle east and the hunt for votes prevent any mainstream candidate from crediting Iran for its influence on Iraqi leaders, including Moqtada Al Sadr and restraining his forces, in cutting down the violence over the past year in Iraq. Iran should get much of the credit. But mythical nonsense about the nature of the conflict downplays Iran’s influence, centuries old and re-asserted following Saddam. We don’t need to go to war with Iran or North Korea, whose postures are mainly defensive. Biden and Palin talked the talk to the hostile choir conditioned by the Bush administration’s ambitions in the middle east over the past 8 years. Let’s wake up and get it right, can’t we?
Report thisBy moineau, October 4, 2008 at 11:01 am #
this is the saddest thing of all because we allowed george bush and dick cheney and all their neocon buddies all the way back to the 90s to embroil us in continuous war with continuous disregard for human life and limb. we hear the ridiculous claims of the “surge”, only to learn it was secret new techniques that caused the violence to be reduced in iraq. woodward and the defense department won’t tell us what they are, but i can guess a couple. escalating air war and what? 50,000+ imprisoned irakis? when i think of the horror of those prisons… and i can’t get the pictures out of my mind.
then for biden, joe biden, to claim that the u.s and france chased hezbollah out of lebanon, confusing them with syria? how embarrassing. how destructive. how criminel in the end.
i think what is obvious is that these are not wars of ideology at all, although our leaders have gotten a large portion of the u.s. to hate arabs, persians, and anyone associated with the middle east, and we see the escalating hate crimes associated with this kind of racism. ah, the christian ideal! the u.s. always needed an enemy to prove their ascendancy over all.
please, america, know that it’s all about who is going to control the remaining oil resources and has nothing to do with people or freedom. we stay in iraq for the oil, and we’ll stay in iraq to protect the oil companies, korea-style, once, if ever contracts are negotiated. so viva john mccain! viva barack obama! what’s the difference on these issues? one country, take your pick…
but god help the women, children and men of afghanistan and iraq, and who knows where else next. as robert fisk says, we are in THEIR countries, that’s the problem! one day, perhaps, we’ll be able to say “viva la paix.” but it will be only be able to come to pass when we elect leaders who will tell the truth. for all his intelligence, i’m still waiting for barack obama to do this when it comes to the middle east. but first, they must stop pretending to understanding it.
Report thisBy Zeya, October 4, 2008 at 9:43 am #
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Palin did prove one thing - she’s a master at memorization. Pretty impressive for a mindless marionette!
Report thisBy George, October 4, 2008 at 7:00 am #
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“(and no, just being able to pronounce “Ahmadinejad” without tripping up isn’t enough).”
At least they could pronounce it, unlike McCain in the first debate
Report thisBy kyle johnston, October 4, 2008 at 3:19 am #
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goddonit!wink, wink—How dare you question Sarah and Joe six-pack?
Report thisBy knute, October 4, 2008 at 2:22 am #
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I found it telling that when biden showed emotion when describing how he knew what it felt like to be a parent losing a child ( he lost a son and wife in a car accident ) that Palin, showed absolutely no ackowledgement of any sort. Just the cold, out of touch with the reality in the moment that the republican party is has been known for…not unlike the individual she hopes to replace this next election. There is one common denominator amongst her, and most within the “God’s Own Party”....a complete lack of empathy. A self centered style that worships greed and looks with disdain on anyone else in need of a hand up. Even with the obvious proof after these past 8 years , that relinquishing all to corporate power mysteriously dosen’t translate into anything except yanking what was the american dream from everyone else but the wealthiest individuals.
Report thisBy Fadel Abdallah, October 3, 2008 at 11:48 pm #
This report confirms and affirms what I said earlier under different thread, which is that the one and only winner of the debate between Palin and Biden is Israel.
What a repeated and boring political circus that has no elements of innovation or change in it! So, the new slogan for both parties on foreign policy should read, “The No-Change Surge You Can Count On!”
And how sad it is that despite American continuous dependence on and entanglement in the Middle East, its leaders and aspiring leaders, from the president down, can always exhibit the most embarrassing ignorance about basic facts related to this strategic part of the word.
For American ignorant and blinded or bought politicians, the Middle East, with its thousands of years of history, started only sixty years ago when Israel was founded, as a Western colonial post, to make up for the moral failures of the white Europeans at the expense of a helpless and armless natives of Palestine!
Report thisBy Catherine, October 3, 2008 at 11:29 pm #
Wait…I know Joe Biden’s name isn’t O’Biden! I’m qualified to be VP! I know that “up in Alaska” they’ve got SNOW! I’m qualified to be VP! I know that if I sit down in the tight skirt I’ve worn for this debate I’ll split the seams…I’m qualified to be VP! I know that if I can throw a barb at Gwen Ifill and call her “moderator” instead of her name, and mention the word “maverick” fifteen times at least, I’m qualified to be VP! I’ve got FIVE kids and we sit around the “kitchen table” and talk about our “financial troubles” in our $500,000 home…I"m qualified to be VP! Woo-Woo!
Report thisBy randyha, October 3, 2008 at 10:51 pm #
Ahmadinejad, Ahmadinejad, Ahmadinejad…I’ve said it and I can see Mexico from San Diego; therefore I’m qualified to be Vice President!
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