Bush McCain
Dumb and Dumber

Cyrena: mercifully you did not call me an idiot again but you seem to believe that I cannot count. Both McCain and Obama have been passing Chinese loans on to the countries I mentioned while they were in the Senate no matter how many years. I found that amusing and you missed the fun because you do not seem to have any sense of humor.

By dihey, September 28 at 10:22 am

• “…This is precisely what McCain and Obama have been doing all of these years in the Senate when they voted funds for Israel, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and now Georgia…”

Wanna clarify the ‘all of these years in the Senate’ dihey? Might help to note that McCain has been in the Congress for nearly 26 years…1982-1986 as a House rep, and 1986 to NOW as a Senator. That would be 25.7 years.

Barack Obama has been in the Senate since 2005. That gives him 3.7 years in the Senate.

That means that Obama didn’t vote for the billions that Bush has given PAKISTAN since October, 2001 ($22billion at last count) because he wasn’t even in the Senate. But, he’s made it no secret that he’s been pretty ticked off about those billions to Musharaff in exchange for supposedly assisting in the ‘war on terror’, when in fact Musharraf didn’t assist on ANYTHING!! (and who knows what happened to the money?) Same with AFGHAISTAN. When he DID enter the Senate in 2005, he voted AGAINST one of these ‘emergency expenditures” and got criticized for not funding the troops, and then voted FOR another one, and was criticized for that by a different set of lemmings.  (remember 9/11 was 2001, Afghanistan was 2001, and IRAQ was 2003).

ISRAEL has been getting billions from US ($3B per year has been the figure for as long as I can personally remember) since their INCEPTION 60 years ago!! Obama is only 47 years old for Christ’s sake!

As for EGYPT, we’ve been funding them since 1975, (so 33 years) and according to this link below, had provided a total of $28 billion over 30 years.

http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/features/egypt/

• “…These funds are provided by lenders to Uncle Sam, most likely China. The truth is that it is most likely China that supports these countries and McCain and Obama participated in the deception, pretending that we were the generous donors…”
Talk about double-talk, hyperbole and innuendo. You say that the *truth* is that ~MOST LIKELY~ China is funding US, and that MOST LIKELY China supports these countries…blah, blah, blah.

So, let me say this again, “The *truth* is that *most likely*??? Uh huh. Let me ask; How can a ‘truth’ be ‘most likely’? And, why don’t you *KNOW* that China is funding us?? Everybody else in the world does. McCain just said it here. According to him, it’s $550BILLION.

And, just as an FYI, CHINA doesn’t ‘support’ ANY country, but will ‘do business with’ EVERY country that has something they want, and OIL is at the top of that list. Connect the dots. It’s business first with China. They don’t let ideologies get in the way. They just cut a huge deal with Hugo Chavez. And yep, he went to them. (and when he left there, he was on his way to Russia to do the same thing.)

• “The fundamental question on Iraq has nothing to do with the “surge”. He should have asked: “At the end of this year the UN mandate for our presence in Iraq runs out. If President Bush cannot negotiate an agreement with Iraq before you become President what will you do? If he does get an agreement, will you insist on Senate ratification? If there is no Senate ratification will you abide y the agreement?””

You’re partially correct here dihey. The fundamental question on Iraq has nothing to do with the ‘so-called’ *SURGE*, (which came 4 years into the fundamental question, which is that we should NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

That means that the rest of statement is moot, because GETTING out will make any SOF agreements moot as well. Let the mandate run out. If it’s replaced with anything at all, it’ll just be the final touches on the logistics for a complete withdrawal of US troops. Not an ‘if’ because that’s already a given, but a WHEN. That’s all that needs to happen.

But you’re right. Lehrer didn’t ask, so I answered for them. (anyway…just so you’d know).

Suppose a friend of yours is in dire straits. You promise to help him financially but: “I must first go to my bank to borrow some money.” Borrow, not draw from your account because the account is empty. This is precisely what McCain and Obama have been doing all of these years in the Senate when they voted funds for Israel, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and now Georgia. These funds are provided by lenders to Uncle Sam, most likely China. The truth is that it is most likely China that supports these countries and McCain and Obama participated in the deception, pretending that we were the generous donors.
Jim Lehrer? The greatest sap among all moderators.
The fundamental question on Iraq has nothing to do with the “surge”. He should have asked: “At the end of this year the UN mandate for our presence in Iraq runs out. If President Bush cannot negotiate an agreement with Iraq before you become President what will you do? If he does get an agreement, will you insist on Senate ratification? If there is no Senate ratification will you abide y the agreement?”

The title of this post says it all:

http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2008/09/missed- opportunity.html