Simon: As a member of Defenders of Wildlife, it is our ad and I will try to post it. There are two different ones, the newest ad can make anyone who has any empathy at all cry when the wolf is shot and is suffering, this ad also does have a warning as ti is disturbing to watch such brutality to these creatures of her God that she chooses to destroy all in the name of big oil. She pays out a bounty of $150.00 for the left foreleg of each wolf brought in. That is sick and sadistic. If she gets elected we will need all the help we can get, but I doubt that we will get much sympathy from the rest of the world, as Sarah is an uninformed war monger that is the Republican mindset.

I’M JUST NOT GOOD AT THIS...I missed a frontspace....
http://morosehellhole.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin -has-criminal-record.html

EVERY ONE PLEASE GO TO http://morosehellhole.blogspot.com2008/09/sarah-palin- has-criminal-record.html

rage, September 12 at 10:52 am #

”This numbskull reminded me of all the party tramps in college struggling to redo a verbal make-up exam for a test they flunked. Palin obviously crammed. The problem is that Proctor Charlie Gibson didn’t ask her any of the questions for which Rove prepped her. Karl gave her Test Version 2. Charlie asked questions from Test Version 8. I don’t care how many different ways Charlie clearly phrased questions, that idiot still gave the same retarded Version 2 replies to all the Version 8 questions. She even repeated those ditzy responses to be sure we knew she is a special needs VEEP candidate!”
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Ain’t it the truth. You’ve said it here rage. I kept pinching myself as I watched this. I kept glancing out of the windows as well. (the sun is still out there, and the palm trees are still swaying in the breeze)

When she didn’t even KNOW WHAT THE BUSH DOCTRINE WAS, I knew that this was another Stephen King moment, and that there has become almost no space between these moments. She’s never been outside of the country. (sorry, Mexico and Canada don’t count…it’s all North America) and she doesn’t even KNOW WHAT THE BUSH DOCTRINE IS!!! Charles had to TELL her that it is ANTICIPATORY, PRE-EMPTIVE MILITARY AGGRESSION!!!
And she actually said that she never hesitated, not even for an instant, to consider whether she was qualified for the position. That’s what ‘religion’ does for you. All you have to do is ‘believe in’ god, and voila, you ARE god!

Meantime, I’m just wondering what the hell is wrong with ME! Am I just gonna sit here pinching myself black and blue as proof of something I already know? Like that we’re apparently all GONERS – as in the Stephen King moment come to reality?

This abortion issue was in the courts for years.  If people do not believe in abortion, then don’t have one.  But don’t infringe your beliefs on everyone else.  McCain and Palin want to over-turn Roe and Wade which is a huge set-back for Womens Rights.

To “force” a young person, a handicapped woman, a woman who might die or a raped victim to bear a child is awful!  I wonder how she’d feel if one of her young girls was raped and found herself pregnant.

The news has Palin running the whole show now.  Hell, I should run for Vice President.  I was a cheerleader 40 years ago!

My father who is a racist but won’t admit it, told me he thinks Palin is the next Margaret Thatcher.  I’m sorry, Margaret, there is no comparison.  But some have been fooled by smart Republican script writers, and an ability to recite. 
There is the story about Putin and his hand picked successor,Dmitry Medvedev.  They are ordering lunch and the waiter takes Putin’s order, and then asks what the vegetable would like to order, and Putin replies, “The same.” Unfortunately McCain’s vegetable is no match for Puten’s.

Thanks, jackpin savage

Fenwick,

I went one further - after reading up on the Forrestal - and stumbled across some interesting reading.  For example:

Former KGB Maj. Gen. Oleg Kalugin testified under oath before the 1992 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs that the KGB interrogated U.S. POWs in Vietnam.

Sen. McCain stunned onlookers at the hearing when he rushed forward to the witness table and warmly embraced Col. Bui Tin as if he was a long, lost brother.

And i’ve seen a photo of the embrace. 

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/index.htm has links, etc. that seem pretty damning...if somewhat far-fetched in some cases.  But they do quote what can be read of the government records.

Dr. Know,

You could always start with Free Republic and go from there.  I used to have more bookmarked, but a computer change didn’t include them.

I’m pretty sure that RightWing and Rus are more regular on some blog of that nature.  Just like you (and me), they decided to take a first hand look over the fence.  The big difference is that Truthdig will let them post, whereas you’re not going to be able to do so at many of those sites.

Here is a site to go to -http://morosehellhole.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-has -criminal-record.html.........
Tells the FULL MONTY......ALL OF IT......

Anyone who wants to understand Palin’s level of awareness should check out the new TV ad now airing that shows her support for aerial hunting of wolves, as ugly and brutal as it’s depicted in the ad. Calls came in today from ABC, NBC, CNN, the Wall Street Journal and several Ohio newspapers—all interested in the ad, so you’ll be seeing it in the news soon. I don’t know how to post the link on Truthdig.

Re dale Headley, September 12 at 11:06 am #
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We got what we deserved in 2000 and 2004; and I’m afraid we are about to again get what we deserve.
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Your lack of faith in the people matches that of the Republicans, and this expression of fear is exactly the way they want us to be talking. So stop pissing yourself and start fighting these bastards!

McCain will make sure Barbara Walters doesn’t get five minutes with Palin.
http://www.thinkprogress.org

Could someone direct me to a neocon blog so I might sample opposing views on Palin’s interview.

Particularly, I’m curious to see if any neocons think she’s the loose cannon she so obviously is. 

Has anyone considered asking McCain to submit to a psychological/psychiatric evaluation?

PALIN’S RATIONALE FOR HER READINESS TO BECOME VP or PRESIDENT

Because John McCain tells me I’m ready
Because I live close to Alaska and can see the tip of Russia
Because I have no foreign policy resume and/or experience like those other guys
Because I’ve been working on the pipeline – all my live long days. (Well, 2 yrs)
Because I worked on an Oil Commission that produced less oil during my tenure
Because I got to make the “trip of a lifetime” and also visited wounded soldiers
Because I do not understand the Bush Doctrine
Because I will not blink to get what I want

Fenwick: You dishonor the Banshees, she screeches more like a Harpy.

Gmonst: The part of Russia. often called Siberia is about 2.5 miles at it’s closet point to Alaska. It was where Russia sent it’s prisoners for punishment, which usually meant certain death as the living conditions are very harsh. Although with the global warming we have today it is not like the same as depicted in move, Dr. Zhivago

Sarah Lee: loved the wind up toy comment. Unfortunately, Americans are becoming dumber, if that is possible, and with Sarah wanting to ban books and drop science, even though her father was a elementary school science teacher-think Mr. Rogers Neighborhood type(he was a minister also), science is a no-no to her and creationism is much more true, according to Sarah. Even though her beliefs can be proven untrue, there are none so blind as those who will not see(look). She also wants mothers(mostly) to home school all their children and I bet the only book she thinks we need to learn out of is the Bible-just like the Jehovah’s Witness clan. Sarah is in that category and wants to turn us all into little worker bees, working for the queen(her) and questioning nothing. Just think how much brain power you will be saving by not thinking and doing everything you are told blindly do not question authority, ever!

Yep! She’s ready to lead alright. The sheeple following the Shepherdess right off the cliff into the arms of the abyss. Or in her case, The Rapture.

I am awestruck that this woman has made it this far, and has unfortunately reproduced along the way (YOU-out of the gene pool).  Anyhow, it is utterly embarrassing that she sounds like a republican wind-up toy.  There was no thought process involved in her part of the interview.  She just regurgitates the same thoughtless info over and over again.  She can’t even correctly explain what happened with Fannie & Freddie, and the questions on Russia, Georgia, Iran, and Pakistan are seriously laughable.  She is like a lot of Americans; uninformed and narrow minded.  The only way out of this cycle is education, travel, and MORE education.

I can’t believe that she said that you can see Russia from Alaska as if that means something with regards to foreign policy.  I can see the moon but that don’t make me an astronaut. This is a complete joke.

GIBSON: Do we have the right to be making cross-border attacks into Pakistan from Afghanistan, with or without the approval of the Pakistani government?

PALIN: Now, as for our right to invade, we’re going to work with these countries, building new relationships, working with existing allies, but forging new, also, in order to, Charlie, get to a point in this world where war is not going to be a first option. In fact, war has got to be, a military strike, a last option.

GIBSON: But, Governor, I’m asking you: We have the right, in your mind, to go across the border with or without the approval of the Pakistani government.

PALIN: In order to stop Islamic extremists, those terrorists who would seek to destroy America and our allies, we must do whatever it takes and we must not blink, Charlie, in making those tough decisions of where we go and even who we target.

GIBSON: And let me finish with this. I got lost in a blizzard of words there. Is that a yes? That you think we have the right to go across the border with or without the approval of the Pakistani government, to go after terrorists who are in the Waziristan area?

PALIN: I believe that America has to exercise all options in order to stop the terrorists who are hell bent on destroying America and our allies. We have got to have all options out there on the table.’
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In reviewing her comments regarding going into Pakistan, I wonder if she is even aware of developments that have gone on there within just the past week.

President George W Bush’s speech at the US National Defense University on Tuesday in which he named Pakistan as one of the major battlegrounds in the fight against terrorism and that the US has stepped up raids into Pakistani territory from Afghanistan to attack militants.

On Wednesday there was a detailed roadmap of American strategy outlined by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, during an address to the US Congress. The key element of this is the conviction that the only way to win in Afghanistan is to open a new war theater in Pakistan.

Mullen conceded that the US was “running out of time” to win the war in Afghanistan and that simply sending in more troops would not guarantee victory.

“In my view, these two nations [Pakistan and Afghanistan] are inextricably linked in a common insurgency that crosses the border between them,” he said, adding that he planned “to commission a new, more comprehensive strategy for the region, one that covers both sides of the border”.

Pakistan is our ally, but we have to use caution in how we use our military strategy there. They just recently ousted their president and got someone new in there because of the dissention from its people regarding how our military has been functioning in their country. They are right to worry about our “war on terror” overflowing into their country, but at the same time Pakistan needs to take some or most of the responsibilty in not harboring terrorists there.

The last thing I want though is al-Qaeda succeeding in goading the US into opening a third war theater beyond Iraq and Afghanistan. I’d be hesitant sending troops and bombing an allied country and risk killing Pakistani civilians in the process. This will only alienate us more in the public opinion of the world.

Governor Palin does not have a worldly enough perspective to understand the dynamics that are in play at the moment, and she would be left in a position where she would be at the mercy of her advisors, which could influence her decision making more so than her own knowledge regarding world politics. Which leads to the real question, who is really in charge then?

Spectacularly unimpressive and uninformed.  She is in way over her head.

Think Palin’s experience makes her ready? Funny. McCain didn’t think so less than 1 year ago:

McCAIN - “I am prepared. I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn’t a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn’t a governor for a short period of time.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/12/mccain-mayors/#comments

How about McCain’s resposibility for the biggest naval disaster in US history, the fire on the USS Forrestal.  Why haven’t we heard about that?  Google the USS Forestal.  McCain was a witless young punk.  He deserves to laid bare

An even more important concern with Sarah Palin than her experience (which is awfully thin) is the much more important issue that experience is only one indicator of:

JUDGEMENT!

Obama’s experience is a bit thin, and Biden’s and McCain’s isn’t too big on managing a bureacracy either.

But where do they stand on the quality of their judgment?  Palin is a religious fanatic who puts her faith’s interpretation of the real world as more real than science.  She believes in censorship, dictating moral choices to other people, and lies easily, without any sign of a “tell” (as poker players call it).  She has shown herself totally unable to ANALYZE the situation in Georgia and Iraq, unable to address energy issues beyond a 2nd grader’s mentality (Drill, drill, drill). She’s on the hook for billing her state for living in her own house, and for interfering in a personnel matter because of her personal bias against the individual (her soon-to-be-ex-brother-in-law).

Her JUDGMENT stinks! 

So does John McCain’s.  He’s fighting the lying-est, dirtiest campaign in years.  The lies aren’t even coming from surrogates--they are straight out of his campaign.  He’s tried to paint Obama as a pederast for sponsoring legislation to PROTECT small children from pederast perverts.  And this is the guy who was the VICTIM of Bush’s boys making out that his adopted Bengali daughter was his illegitimate Black child!  Plus, McCain’s campaign has been up and down for a year.  I’m still not sure how he got the nomination except that all the other GOPers were serious dead-heads.

So far, it seems the main experience McCain has that the Republicans are talking about is that he got shot down in Viet Nam over 40 years ago and spent 5 years as a POW.  Now that had to be incredibly tough---but something like have the voters weren’t even BORN when he came home--that was 1972.  “Maverick”? To the GOP, if you don’t vote with the President 97% of the time you are a maverick.  BFD!

On the other hand, Obama went for an experienced old hand who can advise him on both foreign policy issues as well as the way to navigate Congress.  He picked someone who will tell it like it is, but never forget that Obama will have the final decision.  His campaign has been surprisingly trouble-free--far less than either McCain’s or Hillary Clinton’s.  He’s focusing on the states he MUST win and states he can win.

Biden?  Well, his own presidential campaign went nowhere, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be the IDEAL adviser to Obama.  He’s smooth, practiced, polite, but able to be hard-hitting when needed.  Yeah, there’s some baggage but it’s all old news, aired long, long ago.

So Obama needs to make McCain and Bush the issue--link them again and again. Take the lead in attacking McCain, stop ceding it to McCain’s Rove-trolls and playing defense!  “The best defense is a good offense!”

The Democrats are going to lose the election unless they start swinging back hard. This business of Palin being exempt from tough questions needs to stop right now. She’s running for VicePresident of the US, not Mother Theresa’s old job. The Dems need to start reminding people of the millions of jobs lost between Jan.2001 & Jan.2007 when republicans ran the whole government. And those millions are just the tip of the iceberg. Every time a plant closes or an entire industry moves overseas,it takes collateral jobs out too; machine shops,print shops,paper companies,stationery suppliers,diners,taverns,etc.. And let’s face it, there are direct correllations between the rising unemployment rate,hospital bankruptcies,lack of housing & illegal immigration. Add in the foreclosure rates,bankruptcy rates, bank failures and the elimination of the middle class and ask yourself what it is that the republicans are so damned proud of. Do we really want Phil & Wendy Gramm as economic advisors to the next president. As to the “War On Terror” that the repubs like to brag about. George W.Bush had been president for 8 months when that happened. Where was the NSA & it’s director? Condi Rice should have been fired, not promoted to Secretary Of State. Start fighting back.McCain/Palin is all bluster and no substance.

Whoa, a few more interviews like that and she’ll crash and burn!  But I have to admit she is brazen.  Invoking a warrior God (doesn’t she know that belongs solely to the Israelis), going to war over Georgia, and gushing over the “Bush Doctrine” once she was prompted!

However, she’s on a learning curve though she won’t admit it.

Her nomination is slowly moving from absurd to just flat-out dangerous.

I agree with bentax645 - let’s just stop for one sec to think about what this says about us to the rest of the world; as if we are not already a laughing stock after the last 8 years.

But the US is more than a joke. Under neocon rule, we are becoming a menace and the rest of the world is only going to put up with us for so long.

Funny they were making fun of her convention speech last week on CNN, I think.  Whenever the word nuclear came up it showed as NEW CLEAR on the teleprompt, too funny.  You can tell it was a Bush speech writer I guess

Remember people (me included) calling HRC “Cheney in a pantsuit”?  The jokes on us...now Cheney’s graduated to skirts.

And that Time cover with her pointing a gun at the camera pretty well sums up how i feel about this election...as if some demented, Christian whacko is pointing a loaded gun at my head. (note: not all Christians are whackos or demented)

But maybe that’s the point, and maybe it’s for the best...put us out of our misery and all that.

Questions were just too hard for her.  They should have asked what her favorite color is, who does her hair, etc.  She certainly knows nothing else.

People who are supporting her would rather put this country in peril rather than not have a women in office.

The interview was staged, not to impart information verbally but to send messages by body language.  That seems to be the take thus far according to Amy Walters of the Hotline on C-span this morning.  They didn’t want to damage Gibson’s rather weak reputation, but they had to introduce Palin somehow, so they chose body language.  Gibson played the officious interviewer and Palin the eager if not well informed aspirant to the position of second fiddle.
A woman wrote here recently that Palin’s voice was grating.  I hadn’t heard her so I could form an opinion.  Well, I’ve heard her and I couldn’t agree more.  There’s something that says she’s a banshee, screeching in the crowd atracting attention, only to prewarn those who come to her side that they will rue the day.
I find her offputting.

Sorry again, but I can’t help myself; hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Sorry, but, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahha!

Ready to lead?  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahaha!

In the immortal words of Lou Grant:
“Kid, you got SPUNK..........I HATE spunk....”

This is revolting.

I’m billing the US government for my bomb shelter.  Is this truly the mentality if the US??????

bentax645 said, “what I don’t understand is why the American people cannot see through this veneer”. First of all it’s not veneer, it’s shit. And only 35% of Americans like it (if one can believe the polls). Hopefully I won’t have to eat my words but I think the Palin effect will not hold up throughout the balance of the election. At least not as it relates to picking up any meaningful number of “swing” votes. So far they are only spouting from the “shit doctrine” that has been reeking these past eight years.

I found that interview pretty scary. She seems to endorse the ‘Bush Doctrine’ (without being too sure what it is) and then some.

It’s always going to be difficult to trust someone who has their finger on the trigger and hasn’t taken the time to learn how to pronounce Nu-clear…

I can’t agree that she was not given the kid gloves treatment. Each time she was cornered and babbling, she was let off the hook. But pressuring her is going to be characterised as bullying!

She’s has absolutely nothing to bring to the Office of Vice-President.  Neither experience or life-learning.
Should anything happen to McCain, at 72, the rest of
the world will toss the U.S. around like a rag doll.

This only exemplifies the “Dumbing Down of America”. Talking Points are more important than the root issues. Sarah Palin does not have the worldliness to represent the USA on the world stage. Most of the individuals running countries around the world are highly educated and extremely adept in their chosen arena. I have had the opportunity of living in both North America and Europe. I have travelled extensively throughout the world and I am constantly amazed by how similar “Humanity” is everywhere. Sarah Palin has a pre-conceived and well programmed misconception about our world and that ignorance will be translated in to a major catastrophe if she and McCain are elected in November. What I don’t understand is why the American people cannot see through this veneer.