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Posted on Sep 3, 2008
Rudy Giuliani

Rudy Giuliani answered that question Wednesday with a despicable performance in front of the Republican National Convention. The former U.S. attorney said he learned as a lawyer “if you don’t have the facts, you gotta change ‘em.” Clearly, it’s a lesson he absorbed, filling his vindictive speech with distortions and cheap shots.

It’s considered the duty of some surrogates to attack the other party more viciously than the nominee does, but Giuliani was so spiteful in his delivery he risks a backlash.

As CNN analyst Bill Schneider put it: “I really think this tone is going to turn a lot of voters off—it’s ugly, it’s bitter, it’s nasty.”

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Click here for the prepared text (missing a lot of the juicier bits) of Giuliani’s speech.

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By cyrena, September 4, 2008 at 9:45 pm Link to this comment

Robertr,

I just wanted to add my thanks to the others before me, for sharing these words with us. I think you speak for many of us, and I know you speak for me.

I actually do have a ‘back-up’ planned for the ‘just in case’. But, I don’t believe we’ll need it. Obama will prevail, and because it really *is* about US rather than him, we’ll all need to be here to help keep it about us, with his balanced leadership and wisdom.

And contrary to those who have this ‘fear’ of the center, I know it to be the best place to be situated in terms of maintaining the balance that is critical to the survival of anything. EXTREMES are dangerous, whether they are to the right, left, or any other place on the fringe.

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By johanB, September 4, 2008 at 7:35 pm Link to this comment
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It is quite funny to hear the ex mayor of New York use the same tactics as the crooks he was trying to fight during his tenor there. I guess it all became to obvious to him how easy it was to overpower your opponents with lies, bullying, corruption and sometimes being so plain stupid and ignorant that the opponent almost starts to feel sorry for you. He learned his lessons well as he found out it pays much better to be a crook and a liar then to follow the rules of law, the constitution and plain respect for you fellow citizens. If anybody behaves elitist and stupid at that is this ex mayor of New York whose name I don’t even want to mention as it just smells so bad.

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By BobZ, September 4, 2008 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment

Rudy G is an embarrassment to all mankind, as a former SF Mayor Willie Brown would say. This another Republican who cheated on his wife,like McCain, and even though favored to win, had such a crappy campaign he got overwelmed. At least he only mentioned 9/11 once.  He fits right in their with Lindsey Graham, another creep, and Sarah Palin, who is the newest Republican version of Spiro Agnew. Rudy never met a lobbyist he didn’t like and abused his powers of office even worse than Palin, and was involved in other shady deals while Mayor of New York. He was particulary disgusting with his comments about Obama’s first job out of college as a community organizer. Obama did a huge public service and took a huge pay cut from Wall Street to do that job. It was clear the Republican’s have little use for the disadvantaged in our society - they only cater to their own kind which was on full display in St. Paul last night. We had a good time playing diversity bingo with the delegate audience. My son finally found one black delegate in the audience. This party is a joke and so is the media coverage this week.

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By troublesum, September 4, 2008 at 3:55 pm Link to this comment

Remember when the pundits were telling us that Rudi was going to sweep the primaries and win the nomination?  Even republicans don’t have the stomach for someone making money on tragedy.  9/11 was the best thing that ever happened for him.  Hundreds of thousands of people have died as a result of 9/11 and Rudi just kept on raking it in.

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By Mudbones, September 4, 2008 at 12:22 pm Link to this comment

All the speeches were sad, same old crap.  Don’t they realize the bulk of us are tired of that?  I guess they’ll find out in November.

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By Tony Wicher, September 4, 2008 at 11:30 am Link to this comment

By Sodium, September 4 at 2:49 am #
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I always liked Ike too. He was a good man. It is great to see his granddaughter active in the Obama campaign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/eisenhowers-granddaughter_n_118133.html

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By Tony Wicher, September 4, 2008 at 11:12 am Link to this comment

I’m telling you, as Obama is telling you, it isn’t going to work. Not this year. You can’t fool the people all the time, and this is the time. The marks are wising up. The Reality Movie is fading. The inherent decency of our people is finally asserting itself. The people are waking up. Not all of them, not the idiots at this convention of course, but enough to swing this election.

We can’t be stopped except by the Republicans massively stealing the election. Obama is not Kerry or Gore. Be prepared for a massive march on Washington if that happens.

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By Inherit The Wind, September 4, 2008 at 10:51 am Link to this comment

“A noun, a verb, and 9-11”—Joe Biden’s description of a Rudy Guiliani speech. 

The man left his last elective office in Jan 2002, was succeeded by a FAR better mayor, yet somehow is the darling of the GOP despite being (in their eyes) a lefty.

(Now Biden can update McCain’s campaign to “A noun, a verb, and ‘I was a POW’.”

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By Blackspeare, September 4, 2008 at 10:08 am Link to this comment

Giuliani is a weasel both in his public and private life——you would think the GOP could do better.  He is a very vindictive man and perhaps sees something he admires in Palin who also bears this trait.

But we have to give Giulani credit for cleaning up the “squeegee men” in the city——it was probably his finest accomplishment——-oh wait a minute, maybe second to getting an annulment, from the HRC, from his first marriage to his second cousin who he claimed he didn’t know was his second cousin!!  And we know that getting an annulment from the Vatican is not easy nor cheap——I was quoted a price of $16,000 plus expenses and that was 30 years ago.  Where’s Martin Luther when you need him!!!

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By Gmonst, September 4, 2008 at 9:32 am Link to this comment

robertr,  I hear ya and I feel with ya.  These people are so disgusting.  I can’t believe that their slogan is ‘country first’ when all their policies are directed at not helping America but the interests of a small group of ultra-wealthy people.  Their slogan should be ‘Wealthy First’  To them the American people are just a bunch of fools to be manipulated through fear and ignorance while they rob from us.  They act like children with all their hyperbole, truth-twisting, and just plain old b.s.  Giuliani talks about McCain is going to bring change to the economy but then lists policies which Bush has been using for the last 8 years which have got us into the mess we are in, how is that going to be change?  Then the crowd chants “drill baby drill” its disgusting.  The callous blindness of the Republicans is truly shocking.

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By moineau, September 4, 2008 at 8:42 am Link to this comment

robertr, thank you so much for your post. you have pierced through my “nausée” to express so well the thoughts and feelings running rampage through my brain this morning. if mccain wins, i too will find a way to leave; but i have enough hope for just one more administration, an obama administration which i feel deeply could be so different from the suffocating lawlessness and insanity of the bush years. we need to work to make this happen, although i have a sense that palin’s own bright, shiny ego could also be her undoing. may it be so. if not? well… adieu, les états-unis; salut, la france. i won’t join with the cynics yet that obama is just more of the mcsame. i’m going to make it about us, not him. and if that turns out badly, same result. but as i said, i’ve just enough hope left and enough disgust and hatred for the whole republican persona and agenda to work hard toward the obama vision which (alevai) will prevail come this november. let’s get to work! thanks again.

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By fedupinfla, September 4, 2008 at 8:18 am Link to this comment

Like Rudy said…“If the truth doesn’t match the facts…change the facts”. I couldn’t have summed up the ideology of the Republican Party any better than that! Just like creationists believe that if the Bible says the Earth was created in 7 days complete with all of the animals existing today (including man) then by God, it must be TRUE!! And any scientist that tries to point out the fallacy of their arguments are God-hating left-wing Commie pinkos!
But for those of us that believe the truth is still the truth and facts back it up, there comes a time when McPain’s true war record has to be revealed & discussed. It’ll NEVER happen on mainstream media of course because despite what rabid Repubs think, the media is NOT liberally biased. But thank God for the Internet!

Want to read something interesting written by TRUE war heroes regarding McPain’s military record?

Try this:

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/mccain_myth.htm

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By robertr, September 4, 2008 at 7:43 am Link to this comment

I wish I could be more like Barack Obama in his belief that Republicans like Guiliani have the best interests of the country at heart and simply differ in their approach to policy. But I can’t be that accepting. I suppose I’m part of the problem of polarization that Obama speaks and writes of, because I despise people like Guiliani, Palin, and the other diabolical figures at this convention. I’m sorry I feel this way, but I don’t think they hold the interests of the country or the world in their minds or hearts—they are blinded by their ideology and their lust for power. Listening to reports this morning on NPR about Palin’s speech filled me with rage and led me to wish destruction upon the Republican party. Eight years of living under the supposed leadership of these vile people has left me in this sorry state. If Obama loses, I doubt I will be able to remain here, in the country I love and which has such promise. Obama does give me some hope, and I pray that he wins. I plead with progressives to not sabotage Obama’s candidacy, even though they feel he is pandering to the center. Think of the alternative. Work hard to influence issues with Obama and a Democratically-controlled Congress after they are elected, when there is a chance of actually achieving some of the progressive agenda. If Obama ends up losing to this demonic Republican ticket, the fight for progressive values in this country will have been lost, perhaps forever. Do I sound apocalyptic? That’s how I feel this morning. I’m weary of co-existing on this planet with people like Guiliani, Palin, and McCain.

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By dale Headley, September 4, 2008 at 7:20 am Link to this comment
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Despicable is right.  But a zebra can’t shed its stripes.

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By Sodium, September 4, 2008 at 3:49 am Link to this comment
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Subject:Eisenhower’s Honesty and Rudy Giulian’s Theatrical Vulgarity…..

I have watched and listened to political speeches since President Dwight Eisenhower won his two terms for the Presidency,by landslides,in 1950s.I have been and will remain an Independent voter for the rest of my life.And Eisenhower has been one of my heroes ever since,because of his implacable and profound HONESTY which has become the standard barrier for my conscience as I step inside the voting booth to vote for President.Most of the time,Eisenhower’s HONESTY
could not be matched.So I look for other human qualities in the available candidates,such as INTELLECT,SINCERITY,COMPASSION,HUMILITY WITH A TOUCH OF STRENGTH of CHARACTER.It is NOT easy to detect all these qualities,but it is possible to come close,if one has the determination and willingness to do his/her homework.

One way is to listen to the speeches and watch the
body language such as movement of the hands,heads and
if possible movements of eyes and lips as the words
come out of the mouth-did they come out from the deepest corners of the heart or just parroting through the lips movement what the Big Bosses have already dictated to the candidate what to say.

The blogger who has already commented that he/she has detected some kind of coordination between the speech of Rudy Giuliani and the speech delivered by Sarah Palin had hit the smallest circle on the target board with brilliant accuracy.Thank you,sir/madam,whoever
you are.You got right,indeed.

Based on my life-time of experience,as a vigilant observant of the political scenes and Presidential elections,I can say without the slightest of hesitation that Rudy Giuliani’s KEYNOTE SPEECH and the BODY LANGUAGE THEATRICAL PERFORMANCE at the       the Republican National Convention on September 3,2008 is the MOST DISGUSTING,CHEAP,DISHONEST and MEAN-SPIRITED I Have ever witnessed since the good ol’ days of President Eisenhower.

Moreover,Giuliani’s THEATRICAL VULGARITY is unmatched
in all KEYNOTE SPEECHES I have witnessed,so far.

His first name is Rudy.And he was rude to himself first,to the American people second,to McCain/Palin third,and to Obama/Biden last.

I felt that I was watching and listening to the Head of a Mafia who was about to lose everything he had and consequently went in a wild rapture of hysteria.

If the American people allow such kind of vulgarity
to influence the way they vote in Presidential and Congressional elections,America is heading from one disaster to another,with no end in sight.I do hope I am totally wrong in this assessment.

That is NOT the America I want to leave for my children and my children’s children…...

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By diamond, September 4, 2008 at 1:57 am Link to this comment

Good ol’ Rudi the Recycler: recycling the truth yet again just the way he ‘recycled’ the steel out of the Twin Towers. The devil looks after his own but no one likes Rudi.I can’t imagine why.

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By moineau, September 4, 2008 at 12:35 am Link to this comment

actually, andrea mitchell accidently called him “rudith” at the end of their interview on msnbc after palin’s speech. i’d bet my last buck—which i’m down to—that rudy and sarah penned their prospective speeches at the same table and exchanged a little strategy. must have been a raucous good time. (dirtballs)

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By ApprxAm, September 4, 2008 at 12:29 am Link to this comment

I thought I was watching an SNL skit and the only thing missing was the dress.

Rudy Julie-Annie lying and foaming at the mouth in front of a crowd of people?  No, he’d never do that. Hey, ask the Liberal Party of NYS was it worth it when they backed the Actor-Mayor of America during his early 90’s run for office in NYC.  They lost the automatic state ballot position during his second term. The truth is always at the mercy of those on a political stage, I guess.

Hey, Rudy….nine/eleven.

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By moineau, September 3, 2008 at 11:24 pm Link to this comment

excellent post, jason, a wide summary of where we’ve been and where we’re heading under mccain. as a former va claims adjudicator, what i’d give for an hour with mccain’s VA medical file. he only released the civilian file and that’s not the one that will tell us anything about the effects of his wartime service on his body and mind.

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By RichDavid, September 3, 2008 at 11:05 pm Link to this comment
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Ghouliani is a pathetic ruin of a human being.
I have never seen so many ugly, angry, white people in one place…..Sad day for America….You feel these people would like to start WWIII.

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By Jason, September 3, 2008 at 10:32 pm Link to this comment
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Guiliani’s speech maimed all of us like a runaway train. Even the audience laughed or applauded at the wrong moments, revealing their spiteful nature. Guiliani ridiculed Obama for community service and community organizing. Community organizing is more appropriate experience than military leadership for presidential service. Community organizing requires one to form coalitions and consensus among people with many different needs and motivations. Military leadership, conversely, is about motivating an already united group of people toward an already agreed upon purpose. The chants of USA echoed through Guiliani’s catalogue of change, muffling the hypocrisy with a rabid nationalism that built to the “Country First” crescendo. Eerily, Guiliani had no control of the crowd, and his speech highlighted the vulgarity of partisan politics, in stark contrast to the limp pleading of Lieberman to shake things up. Nothing is being shaken here but base emotions. At one point, the crowd took over and made up slogans of its own when Guiliani talked of offshore drilling. “Drill baby drill,” boomed through the auditorium, underscoring the republican base’s commitment to the big-corporation, oil-first foreign and domestic policy that is destroying real American values and lives at every turn. Guiliani still describes Islamic terrorism as the pre-eminent threat to America. Even the crowd was silent on this issue. He then reverted back to 9-11. Again the crowd was silent. Does the republican leadership truly have no idea that all the spin and fear-mongering have worn off like a sloppy paint job. Do they not understand that even tried and true party loyalists have no appetite for terrorism and 9-11? Or do they not care? Are they still spinning us? What kind of change is that? Guiliani spoke of McCain as a hero because he refused to be released from his torture four years early because even then the hero McCain put Country First. Wait a minute. Doesn’t this prove that torture doesn’t work? If torture didn’t work on McCain, why does McCain think America should be using it on others? Did he not learn something? Isn’t it clear that America can’t afford a president that can’t learn from his experience, or can’t be true to it. There is another possibility in this scenario. Is it possible that McCain, like so many other soldiers who survived the atrocity and horror of war—and to a greater extent with McCain as a survivor of torture—then returned home with post-traumatic stress disorder? If so, why does he endorse military policy that denies veterans mental-health services? At best, this again indicates someone who has not learned from their experience so that others can benefit. At worst, this indicates someone still suffering from PTSD (a possible explanation for his well-documented rage-laced outbursts) who wants to turn this rage outward on the rest of the world and will create enemies to do so. This is not the face of American values. This is not the spirit of democracy. This is not the personality that will bring back dignity to Americans throughout the country. And this is not the man we want with his finger on the button at three a.m.

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