Hulk2008

...and the Vietnamese pretty much took us to the woodshed… and the conflict between our two nations would be fought of a different type than with those two “third world” countries. so I’m not sure what your point is???

as for a lack of faith in American ingenuity, I must say that I have the upmost confidence in the AMERICAN PEOPLE to accomplish anything. That is not the problem. The problem is the likes of the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, and Council on Foriegn Relations, and their ilk in stifling anything that gets in the way of their agenda.

you think there is an oil shortage? think again. you think there is a real war on terrorism? think again. you think the mortgage crisis just “happened”. think again. and on and on.

don’t you know that electric cars have been around for decades? there is one that will blow any corvette off the road. don’t you think auto makers have been able to produce performing cars that suck up little gas, and cars that can last for years and years? we can go to Mars, but haven’t gotten any closer to cancer cures for decades, while coincidentely, cancer treatments are a billions of dollar a year business?

no my friend, if it were merely up to the American people, any people, I would have full confidence that the problems that we did have would be solved, and that a lot of problems we do have, would not have become such in the first place. But that is not the case. it is not up to the people. it is up to a handful of pernicious people, of the likes of David Rockefeller and the Rothchilds, to name a couple, that own the world, and set its course. and you can be sure that that course has nothing to do with any benefits for you or me.

I thought he was a good VP choice from reading your article, but he sounded like a lunatic in the video. If Obama picked this guy as his VP, I wonder where is judgment.

Thanks to both Outraged (especially for citing Cockburn) and FENWICK for comments re Biden, who does indeed seem to regard MBNA as the corporate “person” he represents in his capacity as Delaware Senator.

Before Bankruptcy “reform,” back during the glorious Clinton BOOM (BABY! If you happen to be Mark Cuban, anyway), when, as John Lewis pointed out just yesterday, 20 million jobs were created. No mention by Lewis of the fact that jobs created were 99% (One percent being Mark Cuban) were McJobs, whereby one—after having been downsized—could still earn enough to take up residence in ones not-yet-repossessed car, Joe Biden was busy helping to craft Clinton’s notorious Crime Bill. The same one that even mainstream media took note of: When after passage it was noted that if you got caught with an ounce of crack you get five times the sentence you get if caught holding an ounce of powder cocaine.

More generally, Clinton’s anti-junkie bill—described by Governor Kaine just this evening as Biden’s contribution to preventing “violence against women”?—complete with mandatory sentencing has ever since served as means by which to incarcerate even more holders/users than before.

I can’t help but wonder—given aforementioned two facts to which Joe Biden assisted in giving birth—if Joe wouldn’t just as soon arrange for a network of Dickensian, privatized (needless to say) poorhouses to which both the flat-broke and the addicted might be relegated to perform what Americans regard as the most menial of tasks for nothing more than lousy (and I DO mean lousy) bunk and board, the latter consisting only of gruel.

Not to worry, since Joe—as noted in comments here—has that foreign-policy “experience” thing going for him. So does Henry Kissinger, who Obama might just as well have chosen. Then McCain could have chosen Joe Biden as HIS running mate. Better than Lieberman, who media caught correcting McCain as to where and where not terrorists receive training.

Speak of the devil… “Ladies and gentlemen, I always dreamed I’d stand in this place. But I always dreamed I’d stand next to my friend, Floyd Little. You don’t know who he is…”

Wanna bet, Joe? Leaving aside your dream having come true, I watched Floyd Little play at Mile-High when I was growing up. Speaking of the Denver Broncos, when is my team going to get back the more-recently constructed Invesco (corporate name that befits Joe Biden’s presence, if not the magnificent Floyd Little who played before mega-millions) AT Mile-High stadium?

(Not “stadia,” Keith. We all know how brilliant you are, along with Maureen Dowd, but as a general rule don’t resort to Latin plural as demonstration of brilliance. Stadi-UMS, not stadi-A.)

Why ARE people suspicious of Democrats, I wonder? Surely nothing to do with pretentiousness. Which is just another—more high-brow—form of disingenuousness.
No surprise then that when Dems go off the deep end, as invariably they have been doing since Johnson came to terms with King, conservatives seem by comparison the more down to earth. They’re not, of course (though on occasion…). But they DO know better how to exploit Americans’ collective psychology/ideology. Bush knows perfectly well how to pronounce, “nuclear.” And most of us know he doesn’t ACTUALLY give a crap. All that claptrap to do with “compassionate conservatism” aside. It’s about business, baby. Gettin’ rich. A fact to which Dems simply cannot admit, though they indulge no less than cons and neo-cons. In their capacity as neo-liberals.

Bush knows we all know he’s a front-man—that politics in America is nothing more than a racket (see Richard Daley who was the first to stamp Obama, “machine-approved”), not to be taken too seriously.

While Dems, along with attendant big media (including and especially the likes of Olbermann and Dowd), remind of Wilde’s, “The Importance of Being Earnest.”

Hulk2008,

I don’t know how old you are either, but the US got involved in Afghanistan in the 70s when it backed radical Islam and created what would become the Taliban and “Al Qaeda” in order first to incite the Soviets to occupy the country and second in order to drive them out and “give them their Vietnam.” This process was begun by one of Obama’s main foreign policy advisers, Brzezinski. The US funded the Madrassas to teach hate against the Western Russian occupiers. We published radical-Islamic textbooks! And we almost certainly had our Saudi Wahabiist friends send OBL there.

If you read my link, you would know that Ali Mohamed was a major CIA, US Mil and FBI asset who got money for and trained Al Qaeda operatives until shortly before 911. He has been imprisoned, convicted, but never sentenced, because he knows too much. He may have been released—our government won’t tell us.

The fight in Afghanistan has nothing to do with the Taliban or Al Qaeda. These are boogie men we created.  We are there to control oil pipelines and keep military pressure on Russia and China.

The current

Re: Barry R. Nicholson,

I too found it revolting to hear Biden speak the way he did about “warriors” and the “poor Georgians” (don’t get me wrong, I feel for the civilians) when we know this was instigated by the U.S. puppet government in Georgia by attempting to put “missle defense systems” on Russia’s border.  As if we’d allow Russia to put “missile defense systems” in Canada or Mexico, our borders.  Biden’s mantra was simply a propaganda attempt to attain endorsement for MORE WAR.  Biden KNOWS better.

Ralph Nader spoke with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now this morning (Thank you, moineau for the “heads up”).  He makes some valid points regarding Biden also.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/28/ralph_nader_on_the_democrats_corporate  (Note: While the entire show was good, if you prefer to hear only the Nader portion, go to the 1 hour mark and start there)

Alexander Cockburn @ counterpunch also has a piece regarding Biden.  It carries a transcript of a speech Biden gave in 2002 regarding the Iraq invasion, an excerpt from that speech:

(Joe Biden:) “Mr. President, President Bush did not lash out precipitously after 9/11. He did not snub the U.N. or our allies. He did not dismiss a new inspection regime. He did not ignore the Congress. At each pivotal moment, he has chosen a course of moderation and deliberation. ...

For two decades, Saddam Hussein has relentlessly pursued weapons of mass destruction. There is a broad agreement that he retains chemical and biological weapons, the means to manufacture those weapons and modified Scud missiles, and that he is actively seeking a nuclear capability. ...

We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after…. [Biden confided to his colleagues that this would be a long fight, but was still for it.]I am absolutely confident the President will not take us to war alone. I am absolutely confident we will enhance his ability to get the world to be with us by us voting for this resolution.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn08232008.html

> Hmmmm…  Doesn’t appear that the man is on the side of the American people, does it..?  Aside from his very moving personal story, Biden’s speech last night was pandering for the military-industrial complex, what else could it have been…?

Bankruptcy filings surged 29% in the 12 months that ended June 30, according to government figures released today.

Total filings rose to 967,831 from 751,056 a year earlier.

Many Thanks Joe,

From the gang at MNBA. 

When you ride home at night and look at those flickering lights, you can say, “Out damn light.”

I was gladdened when I heard the crowd’s luke warm reaction to Old Black Joe’s segue to the Georgian/Russian fiasco and the backing cheer he gave for a military shift and furtherence of the war in Afghanistan.  My heart goes out to the Afghan people.  Imagine THEM listening to this blowhard telling the conventioneers that he agrees with Scatman Cruthers and wants to send more killing and mayhem their way.  Haven’t they had enough of Amerika?  After 90 dead a couple of days ago, 60 of whom were children, one 3 months old, the US has succeeded.  Some Afghan soldiers were involved in the killing, so they’ve got Afghans killing Afghans. 
Has the torch been passed from a neocon crowd to a post neocon one that has its eyes on a confrontation with Russia and China?
A few months ago, a C-Span camera fixed on Joe Klein talking to Jane Harmon at the California primary.  Joe was doing all the talking and flailing his index finger as if he were giving her directions.  Now, I thought the talk was supposed to go in the other direction.  The reporter asks questions, the pol answers them. I guessed that Klein is the Zionist liaison.  A few days ago I saw Carl Levin, Senator from Michigan, being stopped for a few answers from Jeremy Scahill.  Levin couldn’t get away quick enough.  Levin turned and walked into the embrace and smiles of none other than Joe Klein.  They were like two old classmates who hadn’t seen each other in years.
The fix is in.  We’re going to get Obama, we’re going get another confrontaion with Russia possibly China, and we, the rest of us might get away with our lives.

Yes, and he has also put a knife into the back of the country named Iraq and twisted it until countless of its citizens were dead or maimed.

There was so little else that his competitors could say against Obama that Biden was just grasping the obvious point of Obama’s youth and newness when trying to elevate his own claim to political experience. The first clip is just sound bites under media pressure to diss one another during a loaded political debate. The other clip shows a more extensive, personal reaction, response and opinion of Obama when Joe is not touting his own cause. It’s all politics but I believe the second “shirtsleeve” clip is more honest and fairminded., Joe Biden has now been officially introduced as Barack Obama’s Vice Presidential selection.  i just saw this video in http://pollclash.com

Yes, and that great line about how we are going to pull our troops out of Iraq…oh, wait a minute…no, that was put MORE troops IN Afghanistan…because the Taliban attacked us on 911.

Boy, how DID those Afghani 911 terrorists make themselves look like Saudis and Egyptians with US Military and CIA ties? Sneaky bastards.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=ali_mohamed

oh boy….

did you guys that little ditty about rebuilding and supporting Georgia? As if they were the victim? No way this made it into the speech without the approval of Obama. New cold war here we come. New boogie man(Russia)here we come. New and continued militarism here we come.

there is no change coming (never expected anything different), just more of the same.

we take on Russia, and we will get our butts handed to us….. as well as a depression and $10 gasoline.

just what the globalist want.