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Gorbachev: ‘Signs of a Cold War Are Present’

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Posted on Aug 15, 2008
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Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev appeared on “Larry King Live” Thursday to give his read on the Georgia-Russia conflict, asserting that Georgia was definitively the first to attack, in “a barbaric assault” on Tskhinvali, and that “there was support and protection” for Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili from ... elsewhere in the world.

Update: Saakashvili responded to Gorbachev on King’s show (see below).


Click here to read CNN’s rush transcript of the interview.

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By msgmi, August 17, 2008 at 11:29 am Link to this comment
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World Court is out of order. AG Mukasey will straigthen out the Georgia caper in favor of his boss after looking into Putin’s soul.

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By cyrena, August 16, 2008 at 8:42 pm Link to this comment

By Tony Wicher, August 16 at 12:59 pm #

It appears that the EU has totally sided with Russia against Georgia. I suspect that the World Court will also. As usual, the U.S. is alone against the international community.

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Tony,

Don’t be so hasty in assuming that the World Court will side with Russia against Georgia, because it is the ANTITHSIS of the World Court’s (or that of any other judicial body) purpose, to *SIDE* with ANYONE. Their purpose is to deliver an opinion based on the facts of whatever the issue or event is, determined by the laws or agreements already in place.

Now I suspect, based on the facts included here, that they probably would, (if it ever comes to an actual advisory opinion by the World Court) render an opinion/decision based on the mandates already in place. AND, there was an internationally sanctioned peacekeeping mandate in place, long before Georgia launched the attack on South Ossetia.

The linguist provided the details (or the link) for us on another thread. If you like, I can look it up and post it again. (I asked because for any of us who really support the purpose and presence of an international body, we need to know what they establish).

That said, there IS an international peacekeeping agreement on record, and Russian peacekeepers were in the area, and did NOT initially respond to the aggression, BECAUSE THEY ARE PEACEKEEPERS. (In fact, in previous arrangements, even when peacekeepers are armed, they are specifically NOT authorized to undertake any military action). They obviously didn’t in this case either.
Ergo, at least TEN of these Russians peacekeepers (there by international mandate) were murdered in the initial assault by Georgia on South Ossetia.

So be careful here, in speaking for the World Court. I agree that from a theoretical standpoint, it would certainly appear that the US is alone against the international community, just because the current thugs in Washington DC have insisted in maintaining a posture bent on ATTACKING the international community. So if that’s what you meant by the suggestion that the World Court would side with Russia against Georgia, and by extension that means the rest of the international community is against the US, then you would be correct. Still, it’s by extension, and those ideologues still supportive of the current criminals in charge, and lurking nearby, and willing to boil you/us in hot oil again, for any misperceptions that they can twist out of this.

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By Tony Wicher, August 16, 2008 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment

Gorbachev: There is a danger of a new Cold War, but there is still time to prevent it.

Yep, less than three months.

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT.

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By Tony Wicher, August 16, 2008 at 1:59 pm Link to this comment

It appears that the EU has totally sided with Russia against Georgia. I suspect that the World Court will also. As usual, the U.S. is alone against the international community.

We’ve just got to get these neocons out of power!

Obama for president!

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By Folktruther, August 16, 2008 at 11:44 am Link to this comment

The Georgean war is against the interests of the oil industry, purple girl.  All they want to do is to keep pumping a million barrels of oil everyday in the Georgian pipeline.  They couldn’t care less if Georgia controls their small ethnic populations.

The war was initated by the neocons, the Zionist-American political grouping that gave the Georgean president false assurnces that the US would protect him.  The Georgian president and his Zionist minister who was quoted in the Israeli press being themselves political loonies.

The neocons guide the oil, weapons and narcotics insdustries in the joint interests of the American and Israeli power systems, to the detrement of the the American and Israeli populations.

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By Purple Girl, August 16, 2008 at 10:51 am Link to this comment

What would be the reaction if Bush started bombing one of our states?
Of course No American would want another foreign gov’t to attack back- it may be the only way Our citizens would not be targeted by our own gov’t.
Seems to me the Pres Of Georgia is unfit to manage his own country and it’s people.Is this how he handles dissent?
I gotta side with Gorbie… this was a set up by Not US- but the Oil industry who has been hiding behind our flag for decades,using our resources & reputation- and has been running the WH and Congress for as long.
Seems the Corproationists have decided the Cold War was more profitable then opening up the iron curtain- of course i have no doubt they are working both sides of the conflict anyway (got their foot in the door when the Curtained opened, now to close it for the ultimate ‘divide & conquer’ )

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By hippy pam, August 16, 2008 at 6:38 am Link to this comment

I remember WHEN they said “the cold war is over”-and we were NOT TO FEAR RUSSIA ANY MORE-no more DRILLS IN SCHOOL about “get under your desk and cover your head if there is a bomb”.....I can not believe that ANY ONE THOUGHT THAT EITHER SIDE[us or them]did ANY THING DIFFERENT THAN RETIRE TO OUR RESPECTIVE CORNERS AND WATCH FOR ANOTHER OPPERTUNITY TO “FLEX OUR PECS”[I do gotta admit-our gubmint has “balls the size of IDAHO” when it comes to makin demands of other countries]

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By Folktruther, August 16, 2008 at 6:11 am Link to this comment

Although the American mass media try to obscure the attack, there is no question that it occurred.  The city was shelled than invaded, driving tens of thousands of Ossetians into Russia.  Russian peacekeeping soldiers also were killed.

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