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‘Left, Right & Center’: Are Dems Doomed? Also: China’s Close-Up

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Posted on Aug 10, 2008
Left, Right & Center
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In the latest “Left, Right & Center,” Tony Blankley, Robert Scheer, Arianna Huffington and Matt Miller give their takes on the latest events from the campaign trail, the Beijing Olympic Games and who’s getting it right (if anyone) about the mounting energy crisis and how to handle it.

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By cyrena, August 11, 2008 at 4:20 am Link to this comment

By Purple Girl, August 10 at 7:45 am

•  “Seems the ‘Left ‘ has been working to aid the right in defeating Obama’s campaign too.”

OH YES Purple Girl, that is DEFINITELY the case, even though it’s very hard to ascertain that they are in fact, the “Left”. But yeah, they’ve been at it with a passion, WHOEVER the hell they are!!

•  “Consider if Obama had rejected these ‘Donors’- would he have enough to battle Mac’s, the RNC and their 527’s- Probably Not. So taking them and their contributions was Not a choice.”

Of course this is true, to anyone who actually wanted to address the reality of it. This is the very same reason why committing to public financing would have been suicide, and he explained that far more diplomatically than I ever could have, by addressing the ambiguity of the campaign finance laws. What the repigs did in the 2004 election to loophole around those laws is exactly what brought John Kerry down. The 527’s would have destroyed him. And we see where millions and millions and millions are coming from, to put McCain in there. Does anyone really believe that he would NOT have accepted all of these millions if Obama had agreed to public financing? Right, I’ve got a private island to sell them.
Besides that, the percentage of donations that Obama has received from corporate sponsors doesn’t begin to measure the same donations to McSame, not to mention the donations from PRIVATE donors, (oil folks) that reach into the millions.

And, you’re right about Obama always being in the center as well. Guess it has a little to do with the perception of what the ‘center’ is, and I’ve long ago explained my take on that. From my point of view, it’s the most effective place to maintain the balance required to keep everything from falling apart. Are the last 8 years not enough to convince even the dumbest among us, that RADICAL tips the balance to complete failure?

And this…

•  “…So knock off those rose Colored glasses about Mac’s “Country First Heroics”, the Clintons ‘Dem’ facade and Nadars psuedo populist charade. the only way we will regian our country is by identifying those who can work together as Patriots.

Very good advice.

Oh..I should say, (though I have before)..I too supported Kucinich at the very beginning of this thing, and continued to watch Obama, since I didn’t know a whole lot about him until I made it a point to find out a couple of years ago. He has actually exceeded my expectations, and continues to show an incredible amount of political sophistication and statesmanship of the kind we’ve not seen in decades.

And, I’m still really confused about the call for Nader. Yep, he’s done some good work and created successful projects in the past. Louise mentioned (which is true) that much of his work leading to important legislation has been undone. That too is true. I’ve yet to see or hear anything that provides ANY kind of a plan to get us back to some semblance of balance, before a fatal crash can or will occur.

So no, I wish I COULD understand why there is this willingness to do a half-assed symbolic anarchism that will seal the fate, by putting in the McClone. So, ALSO as I’ve ‘concluded’ before, the Nader gang must be part of the Near Ender – Apocalypse now group, anxious to bring on the final destruction even sooner than it might naturally occur. That’s the very likely outcome, since Nadar is always a spoiler for the dems, and enough to put McCain on what would then be a permanent throne.

Since they KNOW this, (and after 4 unsuccessful runs, Nader has to know it as well) I just have to assume that’s what they want.

That will make way for Hillary of course, and I’m only surprised that McCain hasn’t named her as his running mate. They couldn’t be anymore ideologically similar. NO DIFFERENCE, aside from the one and only saving grace, which would be in the selection of Supreme Court justices. Otherwise McCain and Rodham are the same.

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By samosamo, August 10, 2008 at 2:40 pm Link to this comment

Investment, Investment, Investment = investor investor investor. Crap, this is the reason energy is so overly expensive now. It will continue with the mantra that the investor is more important than the needs of the people using it. We are totally beholding to keep some people benefitting at the expense of the many.
And gas and oil prices going down? Let me see, a November 4th election on the horizon. Well, I guess it has nothing to do with nothing.

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By Purple Girl, August 10, 2008 at 7:45 am Link to this comment

Seems the ‘Left ’ has been working to aid the right in defeating Obama’s campaign too.
First the ‘Left’ has to stop crying - Kucinich & Gravel did Not win the Nomination and Nadar has been a Red herring for the right for the last few Pres elections (intended Spoiler)
Why has Obama ‘moved to the center’ because he has always been in the Center- Reason I voted for Kucinich in the Clinton Rigged MI Primary.
But I am now working as a volunteer for Obama, and am hopeful he will actually ask Sen Chuck Hagel for his VP. Not only are their criminals on the “Right” but also on the ‘Left’. Hillary revealed her Corp doctine adherence throughout her campaign,the Clinton ‘machine’ is in lockstep with the Corp whores who invaded the Republican party in the ‘80’s Too!
Recently it was reported that Obama’s campaign has been getting Donations from basically the same Corps as Mac’s ...Who recently ‘released her Donors’, who belittled the ‘Change’ message, Who supported Mac Over Obama. It ahs also been reported that Obama has been affiliating and consulting with ‘advisors’ who are implicated in the Downfall of our economy- Who’s advisors were they Originally?
Consider if Obama had rejected these ‘Donors’- would he have enough to battle Mac’s, the RNC and their 527’s- Probably Not. So taking them and their contributions was Not a choice. Also consider if he had Refuse to take on Clintons cronies- Would they still help combat Mac’s Puppet masters, or would they also work against Him, so that Hillary had the shot at the 2012 Nomination.
So when Obama is being called a ‘flip flopper’ we must first Know what his stance was to begin with (Not assume) and We must review who and What may have caused this ‘change of heart’- Who has injected their ‘machine ’ into his campaign, who would benefit from his Loss in Nov and Who has Not still Conceded the nominaiton. Could that gun to his head be Hillary’s? If she was unable to get anyone to take on her Request literally, is she working to assasinate his chances in by other means.
Funny how Hilary’s 18 million ‘voters’ can’t scratch up about a $1.25 each to wipe out her debt, and her willingness to tap into Obama’s small donors limited funds.
Time for US to stop playing the game which has been designed by Corporationist on both sides. eliminate the Covert operative and bring back the Old School Dems and Repubs.
Mac and Hillary are horses bred, trained and campaigned by the same Stable.Both are working to defeat the New up & comer.
So knock off those rose Colored glasses about Mac’s “Country First Heroics”, the Clintons ‘Dem’ facade and Nadars psuedo populist charade.
the only way we will regian our country is by identifying those who can work together as Patriots.

Obama/Hagel ‘08

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