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Posted on Aug 1, 2008
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Right, so we’ve just seen the comparisons to Britney and Paris in John McCain’s “Celeb” commercial, one of several ads from Team McCain’s oeuvre that perhaps unwisely focus almost exclusively on the presumptive Democratic nominee instead of on McCain’s own policies and positions. Now, here’s Charlton Heston’s Moses impersonation to ratchet up the Camp-O-Meter in “The One,” a McCain spot that ends by ... saying Obama “might be The One.” Huh?

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By thebeerdoctor, August 5, 2008 at 2:17 am Link to this comment

re: samosamo

Thanks for the new link I will try to get to it. What I meant about Scott Ritter and media conglomeration was when he compared Phil Donahue’s program with American Idol. Mr. Miller was trying to make the point that Donahue was canceled by MSNBC, even though it was their highest rated program. Ritter dismisses the importance of this censorship because of cable’s small amount of viewers. Thus the comparison with American idol.
Contrary to the rumors that I sit around all day on the couch with a cold one, here is a link of refute, as it were:
http://streetalker-guests.blogspot.com/2008/08/election-in-the-time-of-incertainty.html
and if that link does not work, try this one:
http://thebeerdoctor.newscloud.com/

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By samosamo, August 4, 2008 at 9:16 pm Link to this comment

beer doc,
“Of special interest to me on the program was the woman from Canada, who spoke about the striking steelworkers over the Afghanistan war. Did you know of this? That was completely off any radar I was watching.
I do not think Scott Ritter fully grasps the implication of media conglomeration. To say Rupert Murdoch is simply a businessman who wants to make more money, is simplistic at best. His destruction of The Wall Street Journal is a case in point.
Anyway, thanks for the link. There was quite a bit of substance to chew on.”

Forgot to answer you on this, nope, didn’t know about the striking steel workers and that is sad as canada supports ‘no opposition’, at least to not making money if their workforce is on strike, hopefully it isn’t a ‘that’s to progressive for this company’ kind of thing.
I think Ritter is aware of the media strangle hold and murderock’s traitorous behavior as a major owner of media but that is like ritter only looking for now at 9/11 being an attack that was perpetrated on america by some muslim fundamentalists. What he is on the up and up about is what he is familar with, w’s deception in going to war in Iraq. I would like to see him go into 9/11 and I would really like to see Vincent Bugliosi get into investigating 9/11. I saw part of a c-span book tv video where he was asked about it and I pretty sure he said he wants to go into 9/11 but he has other things on his desk to deal with for now.

I left a another link to a ritter video with Jeff Cohen that is really good, check it out.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3130157939798368128

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By samosamo, August 4, 2008 at 8:46 pm Link to this comment

beerdoc,

Whoa, I will be the first to admit after I have been sitting here spouting my opinions like dinkleberrys on my ass, I come up with some pretty arcane ramblings and I haven’t been drinking but some viewers probably couldn’t tell the difference. And if I read them later trying to see what I said that made someone come down on me, I usually have to concur. When I get a job maybe I will be more select in my commenting but who knows…..who cares?
I think I’m gonna go have a fosters.

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By samosamo, August 4, 2008 at 8:34 pm Link to this comment

By cyrena, August 4 at 3:36 am #

Thanks, and here is another scott ritter video with jeff cohen who helped create F.A.I.R. and helped produced Phil Donahue on msnbc until it got too progressive which made msnbc stop their most successful show at the time just because it was not conservative enough. But Cohen and Ritter both talk for 30 minutes or so each and answer questions. Both Cohen and Mark Crispin Miller are on the ‘Orwell Rolls In His Grave’ dvd and give good analysis on it. The video you say you will watch even has Robert Kane Pappas, author or ‘Orwell….’ asking a question. I like the idea that a lot of these people are coming together and are making concerted efforts to ‘get the word out and around’.
This other video is 2 hrs and the quality isn’t great, too much light, but the sound is good and the content is as good as the one with miller as host.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3130157939798368128

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By thebeerdoctor, August 4, 2008 at 8:06 pm Link to this comment

“No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money.”
SAMUEL JOHNSON

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By Double U, August 4, 2008 at 7:26 pm Link to this comment

Don’t sweat it BD.  So you’re a prostitute.  Big deal.  No one is innocent.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 4, 2008 at 5:37 am Link to this comment

rage on sweet cyrena, promote your beer doctor is miserable agenda, until your gasping your last breath. I am quite happy to bring up matters you object to. Just don’t pay any attention to what I write. Scroll away. You can stop the message by killing the messenger you think? I thought this was a site about political ideas… maybe you should take this crap up on facebook or my space. You can’t even see the cheek of your half-ass pyschology. Well Psychiatrist Cyrenna, you are indeed a hilarious joke. To make comparisons to Karl Rove only reveals what a pompous buffoon you have become. Don’t you worry about a thing though, I will continue to express my thoughts and you can just ignore them. This is the last time I will ever respond to your idiocy. When it comes to crazy we are all filled up.

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By cyrena, August 4, 2008 at 4:36 am Link to this comment

Samosamo,

Thanks for the tip to the video. I’d noted in the many lengthy posts by the beerdoc, that he was responding to having watched it. I’ll do the same, specifically since I’ve carefully followed Scott Ritter for quite some time now. (I’ve read all of his books, and referenced them frequently in much of my own academic work)

So, I’ll be sure to check it out.

Double U. I knew you’d ‘get it’. Beerdoc still doesn’t, but maybe some day, and then again…maybe not. Such is life.

Some things take longer to ‘get’ than others, dependent on how the brain chemistry reacts with the life experiences. When it comes down to really negotiating a crisis, we either sink or manage to float until we can swim.

Beerdoc, I’m not in any way backing down on my assessment of what I said earlier. I DO think you’re a very unhappy person. I reiterated that in my last post. SOME people who are as miserable and emotionally sensitive as you appear to be, WOULD cut their misery short, but I don’t see you in that vein at all.

Now that is fortunate if you have loved ones, or those for whom you have some responsibility to provide care for. No doubt, they would NOT want such a horror, and I’m sure they would miss you.

That doesn’t change my sense that you are an unhappy person, because that’s what all of your writing indicates. Maybe you write differently when you’re writing as a beer consultant. But I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again…anybody that can ONLY find negative (and absolutely NOTHING positive) to say about anyone who a huge number of other people can find at least SOMETHING positive about, should probably take a step back and wonder, “is it me?”

Otherwise, you come off as an ideologue, and someone easily manipulated by anyone using the standard tricks of appealing to the emotion, rather than the logic. In other words, Karl Rove would LOVE you.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 4, 2008 at 4:31 am Link to this comment

re: Double U

When I say professional writer, I am not referring to idiotic politics. I have been paid to write about music. I have been paid to write business proposals. I’ve been paid to write album notes, advertising copy and of course as beer consultant. I have also ghost written speeches for politicians and executives, who seemed to think it was worth money for me to come up with the right things to say. Got a problem with that UU? Just don’t read what I write. Scroll away.

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By Double U, August 4, 2008 at 3:46 am Link to this comment

Paid?  30 years? Over? Professional?  Oh brother.  “gauche” is close to it.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 4, 2008 at 2:25 am Link to this comment

I will take time for this once more. Cyrena you did in fact spew out that miserable invective about me being so miserable, but that I was too cowardly to just take myself out… did you not? What is truly sad is that you resort to that crap and then you act like you did not. As far as you being the best reason I can think of to not vote for Senator Obama, scream all you want, but I believe what the late artist Robert Rauschenberg said that “politics is people”, so when I see a characterless, duplicitous fraud such as you give a ringing endorsement, I take that into consideration.
samosamo, your comment about my medicine is way off track, I follow the axiom Do Not Drink And Blog. So if I wander off topic, that is my failure as a writer, I do not make drink excuses.
I do not know about others on this site, but I am a professional writer; that means I have been paid to write things for over 30 years. Since I am writing this stuff for free, providing cheap psychological entertainment for everyone seems rather gauche.

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By samosamo, August 3, 2008 at 11:38 pm Link to this comment

By cyrena, August 3 at 9:59 pm #

I would think b.d. has been dipping into his medicine a bit much as I have noticed a couple of times his comments become off alittle skewed but like you I think he comes out with some serious converse.
And by the way, I put a link out for beerdoc about Scott Ritter’s book promotion from a NYC book house with Mark Crispin Miller hosting on ritter’s book ‘Waging Peace’(it can be bought from amazon for less than $5) which I cannot help but agree with, and that for the left to get real and substansive change to happen they/we/us need to get into some pretty serious organization which he describes in the video I linked to. It is an hour and a half but basically informative and for once a cohesive type plan for countering the several decades of neocon/conservative planning, plotting and scheming which they are in the midist of executing thus the deplorable situation in the world and this country today. The video is from c-span. Catch it if you can. It’s drives to something I have always thought about as in ‘what can be done do wake the people up, give them/us something to use against these people that have declared war on us?’ And I have used that several times here and on other sites to try and make people understand that that is what the neocon/elites have and are doing, waging war against us and to counter that, using tactics and strategies of war are probably the best tools to use.
If, the left take the white house and both the house and senate enough to legislate the constitution back to its original purpose, it will be from the people actually getting enough information and experience(like from the 2006 election) to vote and change the hold on power, then we would have to worry about ‘will they do the peolpe’s bidding for the good of the country or will the tow the corporate/military line to do the bidding for their own good?’ That would be the point is will come down to and in my opinion, that is when we will find out if it time to be hopefull or we will be very very disappointed, I fully believe it is still in the air.

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By Double U, August 3, 2008 at 11:26 pm Link to this comment

No, that’s http://www.aa.org

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By Double U, August 3, 2008 at 11:25 pm Link to this comment

beer doc, heal thyself.  AAA.com

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By cyrena, August 3, 2008 at 10:59 pm Link to this comment

By thebeerdoctor, August 2 at 12:57

•  “…Many of the Obamakins have a “with us or against us” mentality. An extreme example of that of course is cyrena, who claims I am miserable person full of hatred, and the brave thing for me to do is kill myself. As you probably know samo, I am not miserable, nor am I planning my demise. Come to think of it, cyrena is the ultimate reason not to vote for Senator Obama…”

This is incredibly sad Beerdoc. From time to time, you actually come off as a credible thinker, and then you blow it with some stupid shit like this. Do you realize how incredibly moronic (and obsessed) it sounds for you to say that *I* - ONE out of 300 plus million people, is the ‘ultimate reason’ not to vote for Barack Obama? You always pose the opposite of everything as it actually exists in reality. Yes, the ‘with us or against us’ mentality certainly does exist, because that’s been the order of the day under the current regime, for the past 8 years. We’ve heard it over and over and over again, yet you’ve high- jacked it to apply to the very portion of the population that has rejected this divisive trick from the beginning.

So, let’s cut to the chase here beerdoc, and we’ll repeat what I’ve said before, and then we can move along to a couple of the astute observations that you’ve noted, even if you actually miss the other half of them, which is of course where you fall short. It’s not that you don’t think and realize what is going on, but you only do it with half of your brain.

You have ‘issues’ beerdoc. I don’t know what they are, and I don’t care. Everybody has them. I didn’t suggest that you SHOULD ‘take yourself out’, I suggested that you ‘appeared’ (from all of your posts) to be a very negative person. I still think that. Nothing has changed to convince me otherwise. I think your DNA wiring is simply to see everything from the negative and hopeless side of whatever or wherever it is. I wish I could say that this makes you ‘unique’, but it doesn’t. The truth is that some people are simply wired that way. An additional and even more important truth is that collectively and individually, we have ALL been subjected to the terror of chaos and more, for nearly 8 years now, and so even those among us who AREN’T necessarily ‘wired’ that way, have come to feel the same negativism.

The difference, (and this is a huge thing) is that while it is crucial for us to be AWARE of what is going on around us, and to contemplate the causes of such things…which includes (hopefully) discussing the stuff with our fellow citizens, some people can and will absorb it in a way that allows for corrections, instead of just the standard condemnations. Some people can and will accept that there is no ‘perfect’ anything, and that there are pros and cons to nearly EVERYTHING. More importantly, there are always CONSEQUENCES to everything. Your negativism basically amounts to gridlock, stagnation, and therefore eventual decline. You base everything on subjective emotion, rather than finding the pros and cons, and measuring them against what can and cannot be accomplished, within a specific space of time or environment. In other words, you cling to the absolute, such as the ‘with us or against us’ mentality, when in reality…there is very little that is ABSOLUTE. Physical science is an example of what is ‘absolute’, like gravity. But even THAT can be manipulated. And, in the sum of it all, you take everything very personally, and measure your responses to your environment in the same way. The reality is that *as an individual* you are only important to yourself, the same way that I am only important to myself, as an individual. If I drop dead tomorrow, it will change absolutely nothing in the overall scheme of anything. Life will go on, and the planet will continue to turn, and you all will continue to read and comment here at TD. Same with you.

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By cyrena, August 3, 2008 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment

Part 2 of 2 for the beerdoc

But I digress. Bottom line is that I’m not important Beerdoc, and I mean no disrespect in saying that you aren’t either. Yes, we all have contributions that we can make or not make, but at the end of the day, little is changed by our INDIVIDUAL contributions. Far more is possible within the collective. So I don’t ‘rate’ in your comment about being the ultimate reason not to vote for Obama. Nothing could be a more extreme example of cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face. THAT is the dangerous mentality of people who make decisions based on emotion rather than logic and reason. In other words, “I don’t like the messenger, so I won’t head the message’. It’s made even more ridiculous by the fact that *I* don’t ‘control’ or otherwise speak for Barack Obama anymore than YOU do!

All of that considered, there is something to be said for the old cliché that suggests the different ‘views’ of the glass..”half-empty or half-full’. For most of us, we experience times of both views. For many, the glass is ALWAYS ‘half-empty’, and those people have a difficult time ever viewing it as half-full. I prefer to focus on what I actually HAVE, (even when it might be ‘perceived’ as next to nothing) and doing what I can with that.  From what I’ve gathered from your posts, you seem to be of the permanently half-empty view, and don’t see any way of elevating the level of your glass. And while that might not be particularly damaging, (to you or anyone else) it isn’t helpful either. In other words, it doesn’t change anything for the better. It might not make anything worse, but that’s a matter of personal perception.

Meantime, as I mentioned earlier, I did actually note a few interesting points that you made earlier, using the one channel of thinking that you have that works fine. I’ll point those out later.

I have a book to recommend to you, that I think you may appreciate even more than I did. (in fact, I have to admit that I didn’t even read it completely, since it was information that I’ve long ago incorporated into my own thinking). But it was given to me by an acquaintance who thinks very much like you, and it apparently was semi-helpful to her. (I guess). It’s a little book entitled “The Impersonal Self”.
Now I pass this along because I think I remember you saying that you had some religious consciousness. So, maybe you’ll find it helpful.

http://www.sria.org/impersonal_self.htm

I actually got more from the series of Dr. Scott Peck’s books, beginning with “The Road Less Traveled”. In fact, I still reference several of them on a daily basis. My favorite is “Meditations from the Road”, and here’s one of my many favorite excerpts from it:


•  “When we cling, often forever, to our old patterns of thinking and behaving, we fail to negotiate any crisis, to truly grow up, and to experience the joyful sense of rebirth that accompanies the successful transition into greater maturity.”

So, take that in the spirit in which it is offered beerdoc, and try to put it into context with the whole. In the greater picture, I am insignificant, and ‘obsession’ with anything or anyone, is generally unproductive.

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By AuntBec, August 3, 2008 at 10:53 pm Link to this comment

That was truly excellent work by the McCain campaign.  Obama didn’t even have to pay for the advertising!  What a stupid jackass…Not only does the U.S. want Obama as POTUS, so does the rest of the planet…for now.

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By mdb1974, August 3, 2008 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

It seems that in all of the debate about “experience” and being “ready to lead” the executive abilities being exhibited in these campaigns are being overlooked. A presidential campaign is one of the most difficult executive tasks there is. McCain’s campaign is a disaster, even conservative pundits will admit this. If McCain can not run his campaign, how can he run the country?

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By samosamo, August 3, 2008 at 4:47 pm Link to this comment

beerdoc,

I admire Ritter very much as one who was and is in positions to know a good deal about the reality of our current situation. I admire Cindy Sheehan for her position of wanting answers and accountability. Seems together they would be able to do something constructive but in my view it would have to be something along ritter’s prescribed methods for a long term affect which having read the crux of his book, to exact change from the current situation, the left(for a better word, it is shorter to type) need to think oganization which is something they at the least shy away from as ritter says or hints at. I believe him, for no other reason that I have expounded on here and elsewhere, is that what is happening is at least the recognition of a bad direction has been taken but the reason it is bad is that the neocons(again for a better word and brevity) since the nixon era have created all these think tanks and read all these books ritter has mention plus a lot more to help develop their plots, plans and schemes for several decades now. And being no better analogy, it is like a group of sand lot boy and girl football players trying to take on the the super bowl champions making a hope for return to our republic’s democracy very unlikely.
And to me this just verifies and justifies the call of eternal vigilance to maintain our democracy because on equal footing what the neocons have created just cannot be stronger that what the left can do. But it will take organization.
I assume you took note of his take on the guns, god, gays vs. the left’s wish list that even the media would not allow to be totally read in his little scenario.
I believe the most major thing to do is to organize a movement to take the monopolies away from the 4 or 5 conservative owners, redistriute them to many owners of all persuasions and reinstate the fairness doctrine because without that it is too easy to leave some people’s opinions out of arguments. After all the airwaves belonged to the public and just so the crooked FCC gave them to the corporate evil, doesn’t mean they cannot be taken back.
Even one better to me is to list the freedom of press as ‘the right of the citizens to be informed shall NOT be infringed’.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 3, 2008 at 7:05 am Link to this comment

re: samosamo

Thank you for the Scott Ritter link. I watched the entire piece, found it quite interesting. Mr. Ritter, as a former marine (are you ever not a member?) displays his frustration with the so-called anti-war movement vividly. It made me recall that famous remark by Will Rogers who said: “I belong to no organized party, I am a democrat.”
Some of what he said was quite accurate. I thought his remarks about Cindy Sheehan missed the mark. The famous mother of the Gold Star Families for peace never said she wanted to be the leader of a movement, she just wanted accountability. Ritter’s criticism of her meeting with Hugo Chavez seemed a bit strained. The fact that she is challenging Nancy Pelosi over impeachment is a good thing. Mr. Ritter being a believer in the Constitution should understand that.
In speaking of his marine service, Mr. Ritter mentioned General Smedley Butler. I wonder if Scott ever saw this:

“I spent 33 years and 4 months in active military service… And during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.”

Yes that is a quote from the same General Butler, after retirement.
Of special interest to me on the program was the woman from Canada, who spoke about the striking steelworkers over the Afghanistan war. Did you know of this? That was completely off any radar I was watching.
I do not think Scott Ritter fully grasps the implication of media conglomeration. To say Rupert Murdoch is simply a businessman who wants to make more money, is simplistic at best. His destruction of The Wall Street Journal is a case in point.
Anyway, thanks for the link. There was quite a bit of substance to chew on.

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By Purple Girl, August 3, 2008 at 6:34 am Link to this comment

Forgot the host- but when Mac stated on a late night show- he had it info indicating the anthrax strain was probably from Iraq….He threw the Pitch….Oct 18, 2001 !?! 
Who told Mac this ‘Info’ - who ok’ed him to announce such a sensitive peice of national security (‘Classified?)INTEL?!
Waht contact with the WH did Mac have prior to 9/11? There has already been reported conversation in the Exec branch about Outing Saddam, before 9/11. Was Mac one of the spokeman for this idea in the Senate, How long has Mac been on the Armed Services? Why would he not- and the rest of the Committee- know what the military bases were working on…don’t they get briefed since the are responsible for OVERSIGHT!Was Mac using his ‘Info’ to persuade the rest of the Committee and others to believe Iraq had anything to do with the Anthrax? Considering what little effor they put forth in verifying the REAL Intell reports about WMD’s- No doubt they were at least Derelict of Duty when it came to that - Now so they didn’t even bother to assure Where the strain led to- before invading another country?
So Mac at least blatantly ‘leaked’ sensitive information- which could , if true ‘emboldened’ this crazed WMD controlling dictator, and could have led to further attacks , by tipping OUR HAND!!! Reckless endangerment, releasing National Security secrets on National TV!! Further he is certinly guilty of Derelcition of Duty while on the Armed Services committe. He could be implicated as intentionally releasing false Information- despensing Propaganda, and possibly Out right Conspiracy,.. Indifference to human life, Attempted Murder and Murder!
Come on Mac…Prove ‘Country First’ !! Start Singing..Who’s in charge of your campaign and YOU? Who put you Up to being their Spokesman for this Con Job called Iraq/ War on Terror/‘The Surge’...Your change on Taxes, Torture, Off Shore drilling…Who Pulls Your Strings NOW? WHO is about to let YOUR ass take the heat for their crimes…Just like Powell, Ivnes,Richard Clark….and countles other Honorable people they have used, and disgarded, as camoflague during this Covert Operation?Refuse to be their next ‘Pin up Boy’- their Fuckin Ya!

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By samosamo, August 3, 2008 at 12:00 am Link to this comment

beerdoc,

I found this tonight on c-span book tv, a talk and Q&A;with scott ritter with mark crispin miller, mc, on ritter’s book ‘Waging Peace’. About an hour and a half but good.

http://www.booktv.org/program.aspx?ProgramId=8572&SectionName;=&PlayMedia=Yes

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By thebeerdoctor, August 2, 2008 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment

please note: last post had a typo of “know dog in this fight” as opposed to “no dog”, but, come think of it, “know dog” has weird logic all its own. Peace.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 2, 2008 at 6:53 pm Link to this comment

The team McCain campaign (aka The Ministry of Fear) have another piece of splatter in their all inclusive, all options left on the table strategy of defeating Senator Obama, and that is to nurture contempt for his candidacy. A recent dust up over debate formats presents a recent example:
“We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama’s magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we he hope he’ll reconsider.”
Brian Rogers, McCain spokesman

Consider the political jujitsu of “beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama’s magnitude”. Suddenly the McCain people say that Obama will have to lower his elite dignity and “appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain”, revealing that the TV ads that seemed so puzzling, are very calculated indeed. Designed to deliver a fundamental message that Senator Obama is not “one of us” and can’t be trusted, and worse, has elitist contempt for the American people.
This is part of what the Obama campaign is up against.
Since I have no desire to vote for any presidential hopeful, these observation are from someone who has know dog in this fight.

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By Double U, August 2, 2008 at 6:14 pm Link to this comment

Well, Taft was too fat, his pants too tight.
Obama’s too skinny, he’ll make our kids uptight.
McClown is spent, it’s true, but here in McDonald Land, the buffet can continue.  Hell, chow down all day and night!

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By thebeerdoctor, August 2, 2008 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment

samosamo. I think you are on to something, the God Guns and get rid of the gays mantra is used in myriad of ways, from Terry Schiavo to off shore drilling, its a nonsensical shotgun full of buckshot splatter: “the death tax” “the clean air initiative” “operation Iraqi freedom” “until the mission is accomplished” etc. Unfortunately for the average citizen, confusion seems to be the only reaction. Corporate news continues to reinforce this condition. The presidential election becomes a pageant contest based upon the cult of personality, which explains why both parties presumptive nominees, and their wives, made appearances on ABC’s The View.

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By lawlessone, August 2, 2008 at 5:09 pm Link to this comment
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Timothy McVey, Jim Adkisson, Bruce Ivins, George Bush.  All responsible for unprovoked mass deaths of others.  All angry white guys. 

McCain zealots want us to subliminally fear Osama because he’s black.  Shouldn’t we fear McCain because he’s angry and white?

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By samosamo, August 2, 2008 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

By thebeerdoctor, August 2 at 3:03 am #

“They are activating the core of hatred that thrives in this country. It has different code words: Hollywood, immigrants, gun control, prayer in schools, late term abortions, liberal elites, Muslims, affirmative action… all designed to find a scape goat to blame their troubles on”

So far as I have read in Scott Ritter’s ‘Waging Peace’ is that because the conservative code words are basically: god guns gays, to capture the lower tier of iqs the dems should come up with a short and descriptive code such as ‘Our constiution’ or ‘of the people by the people for the people’ for countering the repub’s catch phrase. It would be better than having to drag out a big old shopping list of stuff that dems want that would possibly turn more people than they would want from voting their way.
This book is less than 5 bucks at amazon and I think a far better way to attack the neocons using their own game plan so to speak as they have definitely read it and others. It does involve Sun Tzu’s ‘Art of War’ which I think should be required reading for everyone somewhere during schooling. I sure wish to hell I had even heard about it and read it when I was in school.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 2, 2008 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment

samosamo, good post on all this. I keeping thinking of that phrase: a genuine bipartisan compromise… rather a cheesy way to say a bill of goods has been unloaded. I read startling comment from Kool Aid America on the Huffington post who said: Golden Rule of Obama supporters: Obama is intelligent when he flip flops. Anyone who dares to criticize him is a racist.”
I think there is a great divide among the non-right wing of this country, between those who no longer subscribe to the top-down methods of the political parties, and those who simply want revenge against the republicans. Why no one holds the democratic party enablers accountable is beyond me. Many of the Obamakins have a “with us or against us” mentality. An extreme example of that of course is cyrena, who claims I am miserable person full of hatred, and the brave thing for me to do is kill myself. As you probably know samo, I am not miserable, nor am I planning my demise. Come to think of it, cyrena is the ultimate reason not to vote for Senator Obama. The more she explains it all, the more powerful the rejection of her candidate becomes. Despite the equivocating drivel served up by the Obama apologists, there are plenty of people posting on this site who just damn weary of the continuous war machine. They simply are not buying McCain’s Insane In the Membrane nor Barack Obamarama. Those dogs don’t hunt.
But voting, I do think, has some importance. Who is the governor of your state, the county commissioners, city council, Senate and the House, do have some personal impact. If voting helps keep some no good folks from taking office, so much the better.

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By Richard Bigelow, August 2, 2008 at 11:54 am Link to this comment
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Last time I looked “elite” was a good thing to be- you know, as in “the best”.  I actually WANT my president to be the smartest one in the room, not some bumbling, inarticulate hack who has been bought and paid for by the REAL elitists.

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By samosamo, August 2, 2008 at 11:46 am Link to this comment

The msm’s delight, not one bit of substance on real issues facing this country and the people but tons of stuff about personalities. No wonder we get what we vote for. Maybe I’ll take george carlin’s advice and NOT vote, well, I would except I have at least a couple of senators that don’t need my vote plus a representative.
And money ain’t the only thing that needs to be regulated in campaign reform.
And here’s another suggestion, pick up Scott Ritter’s book ‘Waging Peace’. Once again he is making more sense than anybody about confronting the neocon’s agendas and propagandizing when it is all too obvious the dems have a real challenge just in their attempt to get a non-republican/conservative elected. The book is short and contains the constitution and bill of rights that you are ‘challenged’ to read and understand in the eternal vigilance required to maintain a democracy for our republic.
It does seem hard to believe that mccain would win with his declared position on what issues he has talked about(off shore drilling, 100 years in Iraq,etc…) and with obama’s near deified persona(one of the worse reasons to elect anybody) but it should bear repeating that the 2000 and 2004 elections were not valid elections except in the fact that the people just gave up and accepted them.

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By msgmi, August 2, 2008 at 10:37 am Link to this comment
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Looks like candidate McCain is resorting to the GOP winning formula…inundate the campaign ads with distortion and slime, and the believing voter will be convinced.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 2, 2008 at 10:13 am Link to this comment

One thing is clear, the McCain campaign strategy is to convince people to vote against Senator Obama. And they will use every weapon possible, even if they contradict one another, to rally their republican base to stop the skinny dark skin man with the funny name. For example he will be portrayed as elitist (did you know that Barack Obama went to an expensive, private, college-prep school from the fifth grade until he graduated from high school?)or devious (OBama said of Tony Rezko, he only saw “that man” one afternoon, when in fact he stayed at his summer retreat.)Or worse (what kind of a candidate throws his pastor and church under the bus?)
And logic has nothing to do with it. The Team McCain campaign might be better called The Ministry of Fear. People locally who see the television ads tell me they have become confused, as to who is advertising for what. Confusion and fear are McCain’s main weapons. The McCain campaign is a desperate animal. As one African visiting this country said to me recently: “nothing surprises me anymore.”

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By penguinlit, August 2, 2008 at 9:51 am Link to this comment
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Was that supposed to be an endorsement of McCain or a proclamation of Obama’s divinity?  Maybe both?  Some bizarre understated code to the Armageddon watchers?  Truly strange.  It just makes me wonder what the thinking behind this one is?  What does it hope to achieve?  Increased religious paranoia seems pretty unusual as a desired outcome for a campaign commercial.  August also seems like an early date to grasp at straws.

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By cyrena, August 2, 2008 at 8:26 am Link to this comment

Humm…glad I checked into Huffpo today. I’d never really gotten much into them, having been turned off by some of the ‘opinion’ writers. But, straight quotes are always interesting in a campaign season such as this one. “From the horse’s mouth” so to speak. I’m inclined to think that’s where we get the best information. So, this does it quite well.

Meantime, though I’m apparently naive in posting the considerable list of groups and individuals involved in this election cycle’s ‘extreme smear operation’, it appears abundantly clear here, that the candidate, Barack Obama, is far, far from it. (naive that is)

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Obama On Race Card: “What I Said Was What I Think Everybody Knows”
  August 1, 2008 04:11 PM
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Barack Obama responds to John McCain campaign charges that he’s using the race card in an interview with the St. Petersburg Times:

“I was in union, Missouri which is 98 percent white - a rural, conservative. and what I said was what I think everybody knows, which is that I don’t look like I came out of central casting when it comes to presidential candidates. But I think that what people are really concerned about, what they’re looking for is fundamental change on the economy, things that are going to help their families live out the American dream.

“There was nobody there who thought at all that I was trying to inject race in this. What this has become I think is a typical pattern from the McCain campaign, whether it’s Paris Hilton or Britney or this phony allegation that I wouldn’t visit troops. They seem to be focused on a negative campaign. What I think our campaign wants to do is focus on the issues that matter to American families.”

Joe Trippi, meanwhile, says McCain is “executing a classic ‘Race? Not me!’ campaign.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/01/obama-on-race-card-what-i_n_116403.html

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Saturday described John McCain’s campaign against him as one driven by cynicism but not racism and rejected McCain’s criticism that Obama himself had brought race into their debate.

The McCain campaign charged this week that Obama had “played the race card” in accusing McCain and other Republicans of planning to scare voters by pointing out that he “doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills” all of whom are white men. In the ensuing debate, a McCain spokesman suggested the Arizona senator was being painted as a racist.

In response, Obama’s campaign contended that the Illinois senator was referring only to being new in Washington politics and, in turn, accused McCain of being the one to bring up race.

“In no way do I think John McCain’s campaign was racist. I think they are cynical,” Obama said Saturday. “Their team is good at creating distractions and engaging in negative attacks.”

Reporters questioned Obama about the issue of race as he campaigned for a second day in Florida, where offshore oil drilling was emerging as a top issue.

The Illinois senator said he was willing to compromise his stand against further drilling along the U.S. coastline if other proposals were part of a plan for energy independence.

“What I don’t want to do is for the best to be the enemy of the good,” he said. “And if we can come up with a genuine bipartisan compromise, in which I have to accept some things that I don’t like or the Democrats have to accept some things that they don’t like in exchange for actually moving us in the direction of actual energy independence, then that’s something I’m open to.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/02/obama-mccain-campaign-cyn_n_116505.html

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By Concerned cititzen, August 2, 2008 at 7:44 am Link to this comment
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This not only shows that McCain is desperate but that he has become very old and senile.

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By Calvn carter, August 2, 2008 at 6:54 am Link to this comment
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I like the ad and I feel it speaks to the total imagery that Obama has relied upon to run his campaigns. Arrogance, egotism, lack of substance abounds at every Obama media frenzy. note: lets all fill our tires with the hot air emanating from his rhetoric. By the way the posted comments I just read are mostly the same using words that cover up or emphasize the absence of real thought.

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By Fahrenheit 451, August 2, 2008 at 6:43 am Link to this comment
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@ Allan Krueger;
Yah, right on and I already left.  i have completely given up on my “fellow” citizens to do the right thing.

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By JimM, August 2, 2008 at 6:18 am Link to this comment

All comments here today are quite astute but we need to be aware that Obama is in trouble because people really are so f-ing stupid and brain-washable. They are indeed gradually brainwashed by the mindless hateful drivel flooding them constantly not only by the likes of savage and limbaugh, but by the msm as well. Witness Katie’s editing of her MCsame interview, the stupidity of the NY POst and so much other paper media. Karl and his crew know how to inject the media and therefore us with “news” that is utter freaking nonsense but is viciously effective in creating doubt and fear. Thank God at least there are some smart people here. Let’s fight back and urge Barack to do the same. It is indeed the cumulative effect of all of this and McSame’s asshole ads that will affect the average american fathead in the voting booth, if we dont stop them this time.

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By Allan Krueger, August 2, 2008 at 5:28 am Link to this comment

The fact that this election is even close demonstrates the awareness / intelligence of the American electorate. No wonder we have had eight years of the worst of the worst, ever - stealing our freedom, trashing the economy and starting illegal immoral wars!

AND y’all hell bent on electing a war mongering flip flopper to follow him up - because his opponent is black! Let’s face it, that’s why it’s close. If Obama were white, he would be 20 points ahead! You are letting the Republican propaganda machine play you like a fucking piano!

I am leaving (what’s left of) the country if y’all elect McSAME / McBUSH / McWORSE! You can have him!

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By thebeerdoctor, August 2, 2008 at 4:03 am Link to this comment

The Obamakins better watch out. This kind of bombastic nonsense is more effective than you think. Please try to understand this. These kind of attacks are never about logic or even rational thought, they are emotional punches to the gut (Karl Rove is all over this) designed to bring out the xenophobic underside of the American pysche. Even the ridiculous assertion put forward by The Wall Street Journal, that Senator Obama is too skinny to be president. All of this is designed to build a critical mass of doubt.
If you believe that this can not work, you do so at your candidate’s peril. A couple of historical notes: George McGovern a genuine World War II veteran, who flew over missions in Europe was effectively portrayed by slacker Richard Nixon, as weak and cowardly. Move forward 32 years later, and John Kerry a genuine veteran of the Viet Nam conflict is portrayed as a lying coward by someone who was just that: George W Bush.To be bipartisan here,
Barry Goldwater said after seeing the famous (or should I say infamous) little girl-atomic blast commercial: “They portrayed me as an SOB. I wouldn’t vote for that son of a bitch either.”
But this time around, make no mistake about it, the republican attack machine in their desperation, are appealing to the worse side of the American character. They have memorized the Joseph Goebbels play book. They know that if you keep repeating a lie long enough, it works. They are activating the core of hatred that thrives in this country. It has different code words: Hollywood, immigrants, gun control, prayer in schools, late term abortions, liberal elites, Muslims, affirmative action… all designed to find a scape goat to blame their troubles on. And it is naive to think that posting a fightthesmear web site will nip this in the bud, because many of these folks do not even use a computer. The radio tells them how to think.

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By russell stewart, August 1, 2008 at 8:39 pm Link to this comment
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Seems fair to me, considering McCain’s meant to be humorous Moses commericial, for the dems to come back with a humorous ad featuring McCain and Homer Simpson’s father with perhaps a cameo by Mr. Burns.  i would donate $$$ for that.

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By mackTN, August 1, 2008 at 5:31 pm Link to this comment

Obama? the antichrist?  The role was taken by Damien—err—Dubya 8 years ago.  And the prophecy materialized—conflagration in the middle east; the destruction of the UN.

When the Jews return to Zion
And a comet rips the sky
And the Holy Roman Empire rises,
Then You and I must die.
From the eternal sea he rises,
Creating armies on either shore,
Turning man against his brother
Til man exists no more.

McCain is clearly protecting the beast as an apostate from hell.  How else can you explain the nonsense that comes from that man’s mouth?

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By cyrena, August 1, 2008 at 3:04 pm Link to this comment

Well, we should thank Senator McCain for providing this free entertainment to the unemployed masses, since we can’t afford the movies, or the cable, or even the electricity for the TV.

Free advertisement for Obama as well…this is one ad his supporters won’t have to pony-up for.

On a more serious note to VietnamVet…Obama is actually aware and prepared. (or maybe I should say his ace campaign team is - that would include several million of us) wink

Here’s the link. If you run across any of the constant smears, you can send them into the collection.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

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By Russ, August 1, 2008 at 2:31 pm Link to this comment
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I think this and the previous posted commercial are coded messages to the Christian right wing fans of the “Left Behind” series of books.  They think it says in Revalations that the Antichrist is going to be some sort of internaitonalist that will mislead the people.  A lot of them thought Kofi Annan was the Antichrist so why not Barack Obama?

On the bright side, maybe they’re right and will soon be raptured.

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By VietnamVet, August 1, 2008 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment

In a more serious tone, we need to constantly keep in mind that the GOP is known to employ whatever means is necessary to win, this BS being just a dribble of what they are capable of! Spreading lies, smears, Swift Boating, trying to influence ballots, and on and on. And, don’t be fooled…his friend Rove is not out of the picture, just operating from a different bunker. Hopefully, Obama has already recognized this, among many other things about the GOP, and will react accordingly.

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By GW=MCHammered, August 1, 2008 at 1:49 pm Link to this comment
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If McCain is ready to lead like Bush, we’re too far over that cliff already.

I’m ready for a ban on candidates saying anything about the competing candidate. Instead, tell us the problems your presidency will focus on, what your plans of resolution are, the price you will pay should you fail in execution of your promises.

This isn’t a popularity contest anymore. Things are f*cked up because too many figure they don’t have to pay for mistakes… they’ll just cost shift their stupidities onto the people. Well, the people are fed up. About seventy-five percent of three hundred million people. Get your cross-eyed bean counters to do the math.

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By Hulk2008, August 1, 2008 at 1:20 pm Link to this comment
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If my own ears serve me correctly, Barack said “WE are the ones”  - not I am the one.  To paraphrase, he is saying the American voters need to take up the challenge and make a difference themselves - rather than letting Congress or any elected official do it for them/us.  I found the McCain campaign ad totally hilarious -  in fact, I’d like to thank them for injecting some humor (.... at their own expense, mind you).  Maybe McCain’s best approach IS just to CONCEDE ahead of the conventions, thereby admitting that Barack “may be the One”.  It would “save him some face” and he could head on back to the dermitologist.  Imagine if Hillary had won the primaries; then McCain could have conceded back in June and avoiding this latest bogus race-card flap.

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By One Little Victory, August 1, 2008 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment

Wow… he must be desperate to be generating this kind of crap on August 1.

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