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Jon Stewart: ‘It’s Just a F—-ing Cartoon’Posted on Jul 16, 2008
“The Daily Show” host marvels that the same media that investigated Barack Obama’s falsely alleged attendance at a madrassa can be shocked—shocked—by a cartoon poking fun at such rumors. Here’s what the Obama campaign should have said, in Stewart’s estimation: “Barack Obama is in no way upset about the cartoon that depicts him as a Muslim extremist, because you know who gets upset about cartoons? Muslim extremists, of which Barack Obama is not. It’s just a f—-ing cartoon.” Daily Show: And for good measure, here’s Stephen Colbert’s take:
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By cann4ing, July 28, 2008 at 7:15 pm #
ThatDeborahGirl: Congratulations. First you missed the point I made in my first post about the cartoon, and now you miss the point of my second post.
I was “not” suggesting that you or any other intelligent African American was anti-Muslim. What I am suggesting is that American society—and that includes all races—has been so bombarded with insidious propaganda which depicts all Muslims as terrorists, that even when everyone knows that Obama is “not” a Muslim, he and all his supporters take pains to deny any suggestion that Senator Obama has any connection to the Muslim faith precisely because they understand the impact such false depictions can having in a society imbued by anti-Arab, racist propaganda. (The cartoon did not contain any of the classic racist caricatures from the Jim Crow era. Instead, it depicted the Obamas as Muslim terrorists residing in the Oval office—and you did not immediately see that?)
Second, I “never” denied that The New Yorker failed in its attempt at satire. Instead, I simply pointed out that the offense that you and many others took was the product of the artist’s “failure” to provide this same cartoon as something drawn on a canvas by one of the horrible right-wing media pundits who, daily, smear the Obamas at places like the Faux News at Fox with verbal assaults that are essentially indistinguishable from what is depicted in the The New Yorker cartoon. Had the artist done that, the satire would have been obvious for all to behold, and I would venture that you and other Obama supporters would have been pleased rather than appalled.
I am not attempting to “defend” this inept effort. But the failure lies in the artist’s inability to convey that he was challenging the right-wing hype about the Obamas rather than the Obamas themselves.
I would suggest that you step back, draw a deep breath, and realize when you are “not” being personally attacked!
Report thisBy ThatDeborahGirl, July 27, 2008 at 3:03 am #
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...which explains why people like ThatDeborahGirl are so distressed by anything that falsely links the Obamas to Islam.
I know you mean well and I really should stop at this point but I cannot let you put those bigoted words in my mouth as if some fear of Islam or a fear of the Obama’s being somehow tainted by Islam (as if) drove me to write what I did.
If Obama were Muslim it would not make him less qualified to be president of the United States than if he were (insert religion here). I cannot allow you to imply that I am feeding into the Bush Theocracy where White and Christian is the default and anything else is suspect.
The last thing I noticed about the cartoon was how Obama was dressed or any of the other details at all. What angered me originally was cartoonist’s rendering of Michelle Obama’s hair and facial expression. When I saw the gun slung on her back I was further angered and hurt. How dare anyone portray her in this fashion? Why do all black women have to be seen as angry.
Fortunately, I’m fairly well schooled in how the internet works so I looked up more about the picture. And then I saw that it was supposed to be a satire. I was slightly relieved and looked a the details the article had pointed out that I missed. The portrait over the fire and the flag burning and, being used to Obama in a suit and tie, I hadn’t noticed his clothing.
Call me unobservant - I probably am - but none of the things that everyone else noticed were what I noticed and vice versa. Most black women I’ve talked to noticed the same things I did first and glanced over the rest - because we’re used to being depicted in this fashion and regarded as such in the workplace and elsewhere.
I will not fear Muslims because I’m told to by our lying government. I will not fear my own people because I’m told to by the media.
The New Yorker attempted a satire with this cover and they failed. Badly. It was offensive and hurtful to THOUSANDS of people.
Why continue to deny the obvious?
Report thisBy cann4ing, July 21, 2008 at 1:20 pm #
The critical point is who was the object of the cartoon. If it had been the Obamas, the cartoon would have been imbued with racist sentiments not only about African Americans but Muslims. And I would venture to say that in 21st Century America, it is the Arab and the Muslim who are the most vilified as a result of a process of dehumanization quite similar to that which African Americans experienced in the late 19th and 20th Century period of Jim Crow. Where Don Imus was abruptly terminated by MSNBC, and appropriately so, for referring to the Rutgers women’s basketball team as “Nappy headed ho’s,” right-wing media pundits routinely disparage Arabs and Muslims, even going so far as calling for their wholesale slaughter, without adverse impact on their careers.
Consider, for example, the 12/21/05 Ann Coulter column: “I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo.” Yet, on 3/5/07 Tucker Carlson announced on MSNBC, “We’re happy to have her on. She’s great TV. She makes smart points. She’s courageous…a very talented writer.”
When Keith Ellison, the first Muslim ever elected to Congress, appeared on CNN, Glenn Beck said: “I have been nervous about this interview with you because what I feel like saying is, “Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.”
To appreciate the level of racism in Beck’s remark. Turn the clock back to the Black Hawk down incident. Imagine if Beck had, at the time, questioned the loyalty of John Conyers because the U.S. was fighting in Somalia, an African nation, because Conyers was an “African”-American. No doubt, such a remark would have cost Beck his job, but Beck did not lose his job for his obnoxious challenge to Ellison. Instead, he moved up to ABC’s Good Morning America, its producer announcing that “Glenn is a leading cultural commentator.”
Sadly, Beck is “a leading culture commentator” precisely because 21st Century American culture is imbued with anti-Arab & anti-Muslim racism in the same way that early 20th Century German culture was imbued with anti-Semitism. African-Americans are not immune to the objectification of Arabs & Muslims through this process of dehumanization, which explains why people like ThatDeborahGirl are so distressed by anything that falsely links the Obamas to Islam.
Report thisBy Tony Wicher, July 21, 2008 at 12:41 pm #
Re ThatDeborahGirl, July 20 at 1:35 pm #
Deb,
I have observed that often genuine racism is concealed beneath a facade of “humor”. On a deeper level, sadism is an important element of human nature, and humor often provides a harmless sublimation of that wonderful human impulse to enjoy the suffering of others. Racism obviously has a large sadistic component, and so racism is often expressed as racial “humor”. I do agree with you that when racists make a racist joke, it isn’t funny; it’s just a veneer of “humor” covering out-and-out racism. I always call racists on this. But on the other hand, when Dave Chapelle makes a racist joke, all I do is roll on the floor, because it is not being made with racist intentions but the very opposite, and its effect is also the very opposite; it weakens the racial stereotype instead of making it stronger. I see the New Yorker cartoon in the same light as a Dave Chappelle skit, and believe it will have the same positive, anti-racist effect.
Report thisBy ThatDeborahGirl, July 20, 2008 at 5:35 pm #
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No, I get the intention.
They swung.
They missed.
I have white co-workers who do this sort of thing all the time. They tell a joke, think it’s funny and when black folks don’t laugh they go, “Ah, it’s just a joke. You can take a joke right? Don’t be so thin-skinned. Ah, you’ll get over it.”
This type of ignorance is no different.
Report thisBy cann4ing, July 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm #
ThatDeborahGirl—You still don’t get it. The cartoon was intended to give the right-wing commentators who smear the Obamas daily a swift poke in the eye. Unfortunately, many fail to see that because the cartoonist did not put the object of his derision into the cartoon. If the cartoonist had shown Rush Limbaugh trying to paint the Obamas as terrorists would you still have been offended?
Report thisBy Tony Wicher, July 18, 2008 at 1:32 am #
Thank Allah for Jon Stewart! That piece was brilliant! “And now we know where the real two-dimensional figures are - television!” Those media idiots are phony beyond belief. That cartoon was intended to help Obama and I think it did. There is no better way to counter racial stereotypes than making fun of them, as anyone who appreciates cartoons like South Park or commedians like Dave Chapelle understands. Some people just got no sense of yuma.
Report thisBy ThatDeborahGirl, July 18, 2008 at 1:30 am #
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On any given day, I love John Stewart but on this particular issue he can bite me. WhoTF is he to tell anyone what they should or should not be offended by?
I just don’t get why white people don’t get why this is offensive and no amount of claiming “it’s funny” or “it’s satire” will make black people or the Obama’s find it funny.
Get a clue will ya
Report thisBy cann4ing, July 17, 2008 at 12:31 pm #
The New Yorker generally publishes pieces that are read by the well-educated. The editors assumed that its usual audience would “get it.” Unfortunately, they did not anticipate what would transpire when the cartoon got into the hands of a dumbed-down, commercial media. In hindsight, the New Yorker would probably have been far more effective in conveying its message if the cover had depicted someone from either the Fox Propaganda Network or Rush Limbaugh drawing the same picture. Then the message would have got through to even to the idiot talking heads who were actually being skewered by the cartoon.
Report thisBy Allan Krueger, July 17, 2008 at 12:24 pm #
Another distraction whipped up by the mainstream media. WHO CARES about the cartoon? It is funny! Who cares about flag lapel pins and other wedge issues introduced because illegal immigration, gay marriage and abortion may not be enough to elect the aging flip flopper, McSAME!
McSAME in ‘08! New McWAR in ‘09!!!!!
Report thisBy southparker, July 17, 2008 at 12:18 pm #
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The msm is “outraged” because they can’t think of a way to believably report what this cartoon satarizes. There are a bunch of people who truly believe that the cartoon shows a realistic scenario if Obama becomes president. The New Yorker making fun of these peoples’ heartfelt fears in an attempt to get them to see how ridiculous and unfounded those fears are flies in the face of the likes of Fox trying to get more people to buy into those same crazy fears. At least having it plastered all over network and all news channels puts it where those of narrow, fear-filled minds are more likely to see it. I’m not convinced, though, that the narrow-minded possess the ability to see how unfounded their beliefs are.
Report thisBy Pacrat, July 17, 2008 at 9:42 am #
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Of course the New Yorker cover is a satire - of course it is a joke - and Jon played it just right.
The problem is that most people today can’t take a joke - and who understands satire? Bush and his lemmings have sucked humor out of our nation and lives.
Jon’s staff comes up with the most amazing snippets from media hacks and political hacks - justaposes their lies with their earliet statements, and so on.
Again, thank goodness for the Daily Show!
Report thisBy David H, July 17, 2008 at 6:17 am #
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Oh man, I spent too much of Monday reading dailykos, and I just wanted to cry about to complete lack of perspective of today’s netroots. It’s not a good thing that we’re learning to whine as much as the Republicans!
Jon Stewart’s comment was the palette cleanser that I was dying for.
Report thisBy dihey, July 16, 2008 at 11:19 pm #
Of course it is total nonsense that Barack Obama attended a “madrassa”. However, it is also shortsighted to overlook the fact the the great majority of the students in Indonesian Elementary Schools, which he attended, are Muslims, peaceful Muslims at that. Nevertheless, there is an amazing tolerance for other religions in Muslim Indonesia. The children of a friend of mine who lives in Surabaya adhere to four different religions without any problems in the family.
Report thisBy samosamo, July 16, 2008 at 10:11 pm #
“the same media that investigated Barack Obamas falsely alleged attendance of a madrassa can be shocked”
Which I am sure got full approval to investigate which is not anything like the ‘falsely alleged’ AWOL of w for a year in his service with the air national guard. Damn, I’m sure they sifted through all that to hopefully incriminate obama but were disappointed.
Report thisBut how pleased everyone was to discover that the news of w’s AWOL was a bogus report because it appeared to be printed on the wrong paper with the wrong ink and Ed Bradley’s story about the supposed attempt to get yellowcake from Niger did not have to be played.
Gotta what those tricksey neorepubs.
By troublesum, July 16, 2008 at 9:09 pm #
Determined to keep us absorbed in trivialities the msm will remember this election year as the year of the cartoon. Once again a commedian has to provide rational commentary on the news.
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