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The War on Sex

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Posted on Jul 7, 2008
Marty Klein
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What do abortion, nude beaches and group sex have in common? According to author and sex therapist Marty Klein, they’re all targets of a coordinated war on sex. “The government,” he says, “has acquired more and more tools to regulate sexual expression over the last thirty years.”

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By JMCSwan, July 11, 2008 at 10:25 am Link to this comment

If this guy was my sex therapist, I’d strangle the asshole. I resent his tone of voice. It—to me—has the emotional depth of an intellectual scorpion.

However, he does have some points upon which I do agree. In general I agree pretty much with the principle’s as enunciated by Peter McWilliams in his book Ain’t Nobody’s Business if You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in Our Free Society.

NUDE BEACHES:
In terms of Wisconsin v. Yoder, 406 U.S. 205 (1972); among others, I don’t see why some beaches cannot be designated nude beaches—as there are around San Francisco—and others not.

ABORTION:
When it comes to abortion, my preference is on prevention, rather than cure. When unwanted pregnancies are prevented, there shall be no need for the argument about curing these unwanted pregnancies with or without abortion. Why those who wish to prevent abortions don’t focus on preventing unwanted pregnancies, I don’t understand.

GROUP SEX BY SWINGERS IN COMMERCIAL VENUES:
If that makes a bunch of city-slickers happy, I couldn’t care less.

Physical sex with someone with whom I am not emotionally connected to, doesn’t interest me. Probably just cause I had the opportunity of emotional, intellectual, and psychological intimacy (group ‘sex’) with groups of black, white, straight, left-wing, right-wing and inbetween individuals, in my various Radical Honesty workshops, lasting for eight days.

So when it comes to a sex therapist (and a hell of allot, if not most of sexual dysfunction, particularly sexual aggression, has to do with repressed anger, which Mr. Klein says not one word about), I prefer, speaking from experience, in terms of how his therapy changed not only my sex life, but my emotional and psychological life, I’d prefer Radical Honesty Group Sex, including the intimate physical sex, if or when it occurs, in such an intimate setting, with one or more individuals, of the white trash Ph.D., Radical Honesty, sex and anger therapist, Virginian, Brad Blanton variety; as opposed to the city-slikker Mr. Klein’s group sex f*&king;escapade.

When I lived in San Fran, my Marine Corps buddy and I were once invited to one of these San Francisco ‘group sex events’—by some rich San Francisco lady, who took a fancy to my Marine. He said ‘No thanks’. Gunny came back to the boat and laughed, telling me about it. She had all this S&M;stuff, and wanted him to watch her Great Dane dog ‘eat her’. He said he felt quite sorry for her, but feeling sorry for her, wasn’t going to make him use her, just for some strange sex. He said, ‘some of these rich people have too much time on their hands, and have never worked with their hands, they are so in their heads, it would be like having sex with a cardboard doll.’ He had a way with words, and a tone of voice, that would light your fire, make every single cell in your body alive. An energy presence that you could sense, being around, every second of every minute. Every minute in his presence, was unexplainable. 

That said,—in my opinion—those who prefer Mr. Klein’s version of physical group sex, with a bunch of people, they don’t know from a bar of soap, nor have any intimate relations with, should in my opinion, be able to exercise their choice to do so, as long as they do it, respecting others choice who do not wish to do it.

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By JMCSwan, July 9, 2008 at 3:30 pm Link to this comment

nrobi,

Interesting how you consider the enjoyment of the human body, as a business, ie rooted in principles of ownership, possession and profit therefrom: AN ACT OF HAVING: enjoying the sexual—i.e. intellectual superiority sexuality—fruits of the labour of other human bodies, has its roots in the principles of possession, a good description thereof being slavery, whether intellectual, emotional, physical, spiritual, etc. These forms of ‘sexuality’ are manifestations of sexuality, from a base of power. They are about asserting the power of one party over another by coercion or force. 

As opposed to an act of the senses, i.e. an act of BEING: by one, two or however many people who love each other, care for each other—ie, consider each other equals, peers, and within a respectful, truly consensual environment, give each other sensual pleasure; because in that particular moment, they WANT to, not because anyone else held a physical or metaphorical gun—whether economic, psychological, or otherwise—to their head. In such a situation, when one party says NO, at that moment, the other—because they love them—RESPECTS THAT RESPONSE.

Having and being, being simply two sides of the same coin, they shall always exist, and so they should. It’s about balancing both, in terms of any act. It’s just that humanity have created a world of pretty much 99.9999% of beings who live every moment in the HAVING mode, and preciously few in the BEING mode.

An extreme example: A Special Forces sniper in a jungle war, may HAVE a gun; but if his senses are not in the BEING mode, sensing the environment around him, his HAVING a gun, may be irrelevant, if his BEING does not sense the approaching danger.

Another less extreme example: Years ago, I sailed up the Red Sea, during the 1991 Gulf War. It was full of military war-ships, and there were coral reefs everywhere. We were in the middle of a massive sandstorm, blowing over 70mph winds, and sand. I was at the helm, and couldn’t see the bowsprit of the 25 meter yacht I was on—Spirit of Knysna. My senses—don’t ask me to explain it—told me to immediately tack (change direction, we were sailing upwind, i.e directly into the wind), which I did. About 5 second after tacking, we passed another sailboat coming downwind, which passed us by less than 2 metres. If I hadn’t tacked, we would have had a head on collision.

As for physical sexuality: Some people prefer,—or perhaps simply have never thought about it—the power of coercing or forcing another into ‘having sex’, with them. It works for them, I guess; otherwise why would they do it? I prefer the consensual, equal peers version, where its about expressing love, respect, and sincere sharing of sensuality.

In this overpopulated world of Mama and Papa democracies, sex has been, and from observation, continues to be, more about power and the procreation of slave and cannon fodder surplus children, where sex is not about equal peers consensual sensuality, and an intimate exploration of the senses; but externalised, manifesting itself, as the sexuality of war, pornography, obsession with other’s sex lives, whether through People Magazine, or by sexually frustrated goverment employees using goverment surveillance, either as peeping toms, or for blackmail purposes, etc..

And, so humanity continues, until there are sufficient individuals willing to address the root causes, of how and why we continue to sexually procreate the world, as we do, requiring Mama and Papa Democracies, to regulate behaviours, we are not willing to take personal responsibility for, and regulate ourselves, through family planning, committed responsible procreation, and committed responsible citizenship.

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By JMCSwan, July 9, 2008 at 3:25 pm Link to this comment

rage

In a left or right democracy—that is what you get: Mama and Papa Life’s a Surplus Children Journey Big Daddy Goverment.

Vote for a Ron Paul style, Constitutional Republic, small goverment, where all citizens take responsibility for their lives, children, how they responsibly procreate, and such citizens, respect each other’s privacy, and conduct their sexual or whatever other affairs, in terms of voluntary consensual principles… and should other countries want to do the same; the sexual world will be allot healthier, emotionally, psychologically and sexually.

When voters want to be children, and get the goverment to do everything for them, including think for them, then what they have is their precious democracy Mama’s and Papa’s who think for them, on everything from sex, to drugs, to taxes.

Unfortunately, these Mama’s and Papa’s don’t really share the ‘Life’s a Responsible Children Procreation Journey, where any child they procreate is nobody’s goddamn surplus’. So, voters continue to vote for their precious democracy’s, where they consider their children, surplus slaves, and accordingly their Mama and Papa goverments consider them Surplus Slave Children, and pretty much irrelevant.

Mary Ann,

Simplistically: War and Death are glorified, as a eugenic military public relations marketing tool, to encourage surplus to be culled excess democracy children to enlist, for patriotic purposes; because the voters don’t want to take responsibility for their lives, and live in a small goverment constitutional republic. Voters around the world want to breed, as if they are animals, and so they vote in Zoo Keeper Mama and Papa’s for their democracy zoo!

As for sex being a kind of bodily communism. If I interpret you correctly, Stalin screwed a couple of million peasant citizens and soldiers.

And blaming it on the USA is easy. It’s a collective humanity psychopathic psychosis, of billions of people who do not want to take personal responsibility for their animalistic inhumane breeding behaviours, and prefer big Mama and Papa goverments, whom they call ‘democracies’ to solve all their problems. 

Reubenesque,

Thanks for the info, finally made public. Well Done to the FBI and Fox News!

Al,

Frankly, as stated, I would prefer to live in a small goverment constitutional republic, where all citizens take personal responsibility for their actions. In such a world, there would definitely be allot less need to blow people to bits, because simply there would be allot less people, fighting each other about scarce resources; and allot more free space, for people to do what they want and mind their own business.

As for President’s getting blow jobs: Firstly, a matter for him or her and their spouse, and the other party. If all consensual, and private; and did not affect his Presidential conduct, as expected from him, by those who voted for him; I couldn’t care less. None of my business, nor am I interested in the details, since I am not involved.

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By Steve Patterson, July 9, 2008 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment
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.. and I thought we loved in the land of the free. It seems our religious nuts wont quit until they rule. I guess it is time to look for another home. Some place where what you do is your own business. The next step in this country is socialism pure and simple.

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By rage, July 9, 2008 at 9:30 am Link to this comment
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When fascist sanctimonious prudes get on everyone’s nerves!

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By Mary Ann McNeely, July 9, 2008 at 9:02 am Link to this comment
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In this prissy, prudish country, what would you expect?  War and death are glorified.  Sex is a kind of bodily communism.  The USA is truly a sick, sick place.

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By Reubenesque, July 8, 2008 at 11:09 pm Link to this comment
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Don’t forget to take the battery out of your cell phone sitting on your nightstand unless you don’t mind an audience.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7e1_1181502923

Sorry it’s from Faux but true supposedly.

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By Al, July 8, 2008 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment
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Blowing people to bits is OK, getting blown is an impeachable offense. Only in America!

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By nrobi, July 8, 2008 at 9:52 am Link to this comment

If the government runs the War on Sexuality and Sex the way it has done every other “war,”  then we have nothing to fear. If by chance the government enlists the help of the Far Right Christian Wing Nuts, then we will be up the creek without a paddle.
For the Far Right Christian Wing Nuts are far better organized and mobilized than the government cluster
@%&#!  The operative phrase for the government is SNAFU! If you do not know the acronym, then all you have to do is ask an older person and you will see the government’s stance on most if not all of the wars that they have committed to.
My but isn’t it a nice place to visit, but I don’t want to live here.  America, is a beautiful country, but the schizophrenia, with which we view sex and sexuality, is beyond the pale.
Historically, our view of sex and sexuality, comes from the Puritans and their completely warped sense of what sex was all about and how it should or should not be done.
Hopefully, in the near future, we will gather the strength to overcome the sadistic nature of the Puritanical view of sexuality and become freer and more open about our bodies and those things that make us happy in regards to sex. Would that, that day was here right now and we could get on with the business of enjoying the human body and all its wonders.

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By samosamo, July 8, 2008 at 9:20 am Link to this comment

Ever wonder how bad it can get? This is just another effect of 6.6 billion people where a segement is not comfortable with certain activities, pursuits which are NATURAL instincts genetically wired into every species for day to day living and survival which are pleasurable, ardent and serious. And our ‘great’ religious and political institutions in their pursuit to control the masses try their damnedest to subvert what is natural in nature. So as a sort of comfort to the weak and scared, so called restrictions and laws are enacted and enforced to ‘protect’ these insecure beings that the religious and political see as another method of control by repression and degradation.
I would think that there are enough laws to handle the people that are more apt to abuse others for their pleasures but it should not get to a point to supposedly control the abusers that everyone and everything be included to exert that control. That is akin to punishing a whole classroom because a couple of people were out of line, which is the generic way of trying to keep control.
And the one thing that needs control and regulation that is NOT being done and is the biggest source of misery on this planet is the control and regulation of the economics of society. Unfettered global markets are what should be regulated as this is where people with less than noble designs have gained a lot of control and are running amouk.
So it pretty much just boils down to creating a bigger and bigger gap in the haves and have nots and human’s vain attempt to control nature. We never learn and we never get it right for a civil world.

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By Kevin Pearson, July 8, 2008 at 5:36 am Link to this comment
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What is it that the government fears about sex? The hypocrisy is astounding. President Clinton was impeached for his lies related to sex. Some of those leading the attack were having affairs or hiding their own sexual kinks. President Bush lied us into war and no one will touch him. He is the Teflon man.

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