obama is a good person. he has a good political views on world deomcracy.
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I am very pleased with the thought and don’t feel like adding anything in it. It’s a perfect answer.
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I appreciate the concern which is been rose. The things need to be sorted out because it’s not about the individual but it can be with everyone.

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It is such a nice stuff and i like it.Osama is a world terririst and obama is a American president.But those are muslims.In my opinion don’t compare with each other.

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Hi,

It is such a nice stuff and I really like it. Thank you so much for sharing.

Stella

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...is there a way to upload it here? Can’t seem to find a way to do it :/ Does one have to create a new “dig”, and if so, are the mods the only ones that can do it?

Louise, I know from reading your posts that you are a very intelligent woman with serious and legitimate points of view. I lived in Los Angeles during that period, and WELL remember Lyndon LaRouche in Orange County. That this article was written in 1986 doesn’t matter as it completely embodied the dangerous and ludicrous rantings of this man. To claim by ANY means that this man knows anything about compassion, or even that he expresses realistic (read: rational) points of view is an error in judgment. I’ve heard him speak more than once, and I well remember his blaming EVERYTHING on the Jewish and gay communities. He was irrational in 1986, and knowing the psychology of mental illness very well, I’m sure he’s no less so now. As I’ve already said, I thoroughly respect your intellect and your points of view, which is why your post praising this man shocked me beyond words I don’t know where you live, or where you lived at that time. Had you been in CA, you would have heard for yourself just how insane and irrational he truly was.
I would agree with Inherit the Wind on this one regarding his brand of fascism. This is ONE very dangerous man.

The article you site was written in 1986!

Lets see, that was 22 years ago!

In addition the author sites the ADL as giving validity to his argument. ADL, first cousin to AIPAC and one of many handmaidens to the oligarchy. Which 22 years ago was still in the fledgling period of dominating OUR government and OUR economy and OUR Defense Department, and as many of OUR congress creatures and voters as they could.

And maybe that makes me sound like I echo whatever position LaRouche may have or maybe does, or does not have about gays, but that’s not the case. My position is that OUR country has no business giving financial aid and moral support to a country that openly practices apartheid and genocide.

And had we not allowed the Israel “first” Leagues and Lobby’s to gain so much power back in the day of the terror of AIDS, when we knew virtually nothing about the virus that causes it, perhaps we wouldn’t be fighting wars in the Middle East as I type this! Perhaps we wouldn’t be beholden to the whims of a handful of very rich and powerful people who see us as so much useful fodder.

And, thanks to well-meaning [perhaps] people like this author who felt he needed to alert us to the danger of a certain Lyndon LaRouche, we did, do and probably will continue to completely overlook the danger of lobby’s and political action committees whose sole goal was/is to gain control of us and these United States. [for the benefit of a foreign nation]

Given a majority of our congress creatures are now as inclined to pledge allegiance to the Nation State of Israel, as they are to pledge allegiance to us and OUR Constitution, I’d say they have been pretty successful.

Thanks in no small measure to people like this author, who completely missed the big picture when he climbed on the bash the other guy bandwagon. People like this author. Who, I note, sites few reference’s and NO links which pretty much makes most of his quotes as valuable as any other hearsay. Until I have time to verify them.

I am not familiar with the proposition mentioned. So I wont insult your intelligence by pretending to be. But having read both Mien Kemp and many of the writings of LaRouche, the only thing I can do when someone compares the two, is have a good chuckle.

However I intend to spend some time studying on the mentioned proposition and looking for the quotes this article sites as demonstrating LaRouche’s true self. I rather suspect I will find many taken out of context and perhaps some even having been made up. But time does not allow that happen in order to get it in this post.

I would however still encourage you to look into some of the writings in the LaRouche archive. I think you might find it interesting to see how right on he has been about the coming problems, that have NOW arrived!

One other thought. Today AIDS is destroying families across the globe, primarily in nations with majority populations of another color. And a very successful co-operative of Religious groups, Big Pharma and the REPUBLICAN administration with a majority of repub congress creatures contributed to this horror.

And still to this day, they refuse to do the right thing and actually go in and address the problem. LaRouche may or may not be a lot of things, but he is most assuredly NOT a republican! Or a so-called conservative!
By the way Hitler was ... a so-called conservative, that is.

Yup, I thought so. Now I remember what an imbecile this guy was. If you have any doubt, go read this:

http://lyndonlarouche.org/aids.htm

I’m deeply disappointed to hear anybody speaking well of this man, and how brilliant he is?????  If this is the voice of enlightenment and compassion, then I really AM confused :(

Wait a minute here….if I remember correctly, Lyndon was one of these proponents that wanted to exile all the AIDS spreading “faggots” to some pacific island. I can’t swear to this 100%, but it seems to my that the rolodex in my head tells me this is the case. He was RABIDLY ranting and raving about the gay community, and wanted us gone. I’m going to have to do some research on this, but I’m almost certain I remember this correctly.

” If you dislike him, that’s ok, but please ... find fault if you must, with his reality! Not as a result of the propaganda fantasy!”

OK. I’ll take that on.  LaRouche did an infomercial 15 or 20 years ago about how colonizing Mars (yeah, the planet) was the solution to all our problems. I watched in hilarious amusement his supposed arguments for this “Mars Mission” for 30 minutes…rambling, mumbling, absurd.

Reality?  LaRouche is a true “Space Cadet” whose “reality” isn’t anything like mine or anyone I know.  Maybe yours, but that’s not my problem.

You left out Malkin, O’Reilly, Hannity, Dobbs,  and Ingraham.  But what does this say about the U.S.A. that these wackos even have an audience? They pander to the worst instincts of human beings and their audience just laps it up. Truly scary times that we are living in; hopefully this cancer that has invaded our country will become benign once Bush leaves office but somehow I doubt it.

My response was to Eric L. Prentis, “Enough is Enough”; I have no idea why it showed up under “What was the joke?”

Straticus asks,

WHAT THE HELL DO WE ACTUALLY DO??

I have a blog to slog, but your question strikes at the heart of what is needed, so here’s my two cents. I can’t tell you what you should do, but I can tell you what I do.  Many will not want to hear it, but the hope of a better nation— a better world— is bound up in the progress and enlightenment of the individual.  EVERYTHING— Everything you do— either takes you closer, or farther away, from that goal.

That means a dedication of self to your highest ideals and ideas.  You say you’re informed, and enlightened. Then you must realize that both accomplishments are relative, and must continue to evolve. We really are at war, as the war criminals constantly remind us, but we are also at war culturally; we are in a protracted war of values. We want justice, social and economic fairness, and freedom and liberty for all; we want international peace. So here’s a list of things you can work on, or against:

Usurpation of unwarranted power by either the executive or legislative branches. Signing statements— what, 157 at last count?

Machinations of ignorant and superstitious agitators.  Rush Limbaugh; Anne Coulter; Shaun Hannity; Bill O’Reilly; Glen Beck. . .

Retardation of scientific progress.  Stem Cell Research; Terri Schiavo. . .

Stalemate of the dominance of mediocrity.  “Stay the course” Bush; health care crisis; no energy policy; no higher moral or ethical vision. . .

Domination by vicious minorities.  FAUX News; Swift boat morons. . .

Control by ambitious and clever would-be dictators. George Bush ala Dick Cheney. . .

Disastrous disruption of panics. Global War on Terror; Gasoline prices; subprime lending crisis; global food shortage. . .

Exploitation by the unscrupulous. Haliburton, KBR, all other war profiteers; the oil criminals. . .

Failure of social and economic fairness. Toleration of poverty; no higher education for the poor; ridiculous minimum wage; no health care; no working immigration policy; unfair taxation. . .

Union of church and state. Neocons and Bush on a mission from God; “In God we trust” on our money; paid Christian ministers in the House and Senate. . . there’s no place for paid or voluntary professional clergy of any religion to be in our House and Senate.

Loss of personal liberty. Habeas Corpus; NSA spying; Fear mongering government regulations.

So we band together, not just to encourage one another, but to work to accomplish these goals, and work against the goals of greed, selfishness, and fear. Obama may certainly help, but as a leader, he recognizes it is the American people who must accept the challenge that change is now presenting, and get to work.

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Cant argue with the fact that a lot of people dislike LaRouche. But because of his fascism? Come on now ... that’s really a stretch!

If anything, LaRouche has tried hard to get people to wake up and realize the damage that’s been done to what was once free enterprise capitalism. Back in the day, when he ran for president he was seen as a threat by the powers that be. Like so many before him and since, he was persecuted, prosecuted, maligned and discredited. By the very same folks who have turned our country into the modern seat of fascism.

If you dislike him, that’s ok, but please ... find fault if you must, with his reality! Not as a result of the propaganda fantasy!

Maybe it’s just because he doesn’t support Obama. He doesn’t support ANYONE, just say’s it the way he sees it.

I am of the opinion when the political forces that rule our minds and money dedicate so much time and energy to trying to destroy one single man, it’s usually because he is a real threat to them! While I don’t always agree with him, I don’t always agree with anyone. But I have found a good bit of valuable wisdom come from the man. I don’t think any of us are so close to knowing it all that we cant benefit from knowing a bit more.

LaRoache’s Executive Intelligence Review is one of the most valuable reference sites out there! What do you want to know? Chances are you can find something on whatever it is at the EIR site. Like I said, I don’t always agree with him, but am truly grateful for having learned things I never knew before, from his archived writings.

http://www.larouchepub.com/

Personally I think the main reason people don’t like LaRouche is because, if you check the history, he’s not only turned out to be right in so many of his predictions, but he’s so intelligent most people cant keep up!

And of course we know ... fascists hate intelligence. Cheez ... look at the leaders of the party!

Too much talk over what one pig grunted. She should be tied naked to a revolving table in the middle of Times Square…apple firmly in mouth…and the sign over the humiliation will simply read: Political Sow.

Does she subject to waterboarding?

Although I haven’t been here long, I’ve become quite satisfied and content to hear such intelligent and thoughtful people express their points of view. Clearly, we all KNOW what’s up. We know that reprehensible triumvirate truly does belong behind bars for crimes not only against humanity, but against our very planet. We’ve heard and regurgitated all the rhetoric, on both sides. But here’s the question nobody can seem to answer, so again, I ask.

WHAT THE HELL DO WE ACTUALLY DO??

Sign petitions? Attend rallies and marches? Vote? None of these seem enough to me. Being truly informed and enlightened is the responsibility of all citizens, and I AM informed and I AM enlightened. Yet, I have NO idea what we can actually DO about any of this. I’m sick and tired of having to calm myself when I accidentally see an image of bush, cheney or rumsfeld. I’m tired of feeling the nausea and anger well up inside me whenever I hear of yet another disgusting act of inhumanity. We try and console each other here and on other blogs because in belonging and agreeing, it somehow makes the betrayal and the anger a bit more bearable. I’m sick of feeling impotent and helpless regarding our current state of affairs. We all know we’re truly at an historic crossroads here, yet I can’t for the life of me come up with anything tangible that will satisfy my desire to actually DO something to help us at least get back on track. Chucking each other on the shoulder knowingly while feeling solidarity in rebuking these asswipes isn’t good enough for me :( I don’t want to feel like this anymore…

Cyrena, of course I get your point, and agree with you wholeheartedly We’re both preaching to the choir. I only offered this line of reasoning up to try and make sense of WHY the other lefties didn’t immediately jump on it. Nobody wanted <could make themselves> actually believe it.

Forgive me, but I can’t remember the name of the poster who “dared” another to post under his/her real name. Come on now Don’t you recognize satire when you hear it? <grinning>

Yeah. LaRouche failed to get his brand of crack-pot fascism off the fringe, whereas Murdoch has succeeded wildly in getting his extreme, radical Mussolinism into the mainstream.

Very different.

Straticus…OF COURSE nobody wanted to believe that the 9/11 tragedy was an inside job. NOBODY (other than the sickies who perpetrated it.) I certainly didn’t WANT to believe it either. Come on. How much more traumatized could we be, than to actually accept that it WAS? I’m not ‘accusing’ anybody for not wanting to believe that ‘it could happen here’.
No feeling human wants to believe such a thing, or will easily accept it.

How much MORE difficult do you think it might have been for those of us who knew right away, that what we were ‘seeing’ and ‘hearing’ simply could not be? How many of us, (myself included) KNEW that it ‘simply could not be’ (jetliners taking out huge skyscrapers) and were still willing to be in denial for at least long enough to hear the explanations?

Of COURSE it is far less painful to avoid recognizing such realities, and it’s human to do exactly that. At least THEN it was. But you at least, (along with millions of other Americans) have finally come to accept the reality, and get out of the denial. (which I was forced to deal with far, far earlier, since I KNEW that this could not have happened the way that they said, because I spent the majority of my adult life in the airline industry, at least up to this point).

My overwhelming concern is simply that these many years later, and AFTER all of this information has come to light, there are those who willfully continue to remain in denial. By doing that, they are unable to recognize what has continued to happen as a result of that false flag operation and treason perpetrated against us.

By NOT recognizing or otherwise facing that reality, they become the perpetrators of what Louise has mentioned in an earlier post here. The children and grandchildren of WWII survivors ask their generation…why didn’t you STOP this? Why didn’t you see it? Why didn’t you DO something?

What will OUR answers be? It wasn’t JUST the treason of the event of 9/11, but what it has wrought, into turning our entire society into a totalitarian existence that is clearly well on it’s way to beign completely consumed by a totalitarian structure. And, like Hitler’s Germany, or Stalin’s Russia, or Mussolini’s Italy, there are still millions of Americans who are UNaware, and many of them willfully so.

So yes, I clearly understand how and why we do not want to believe this thing. But in refusing to do that, we simply delay any HALT to it, and allow for more and more misery to befall ourselves and the rest of the world.

So hopefully, you get my point. None of us WANTS to believe that we have been intentionally victimized by those we’ve trusted. We don’t even, (as individuals) want to believe that we’ve been victimized by cancer, or homelessness, or the needless demise of our loved ones. How impossible is it really, for me to have such conversations with those who have lost their loved ones in any of these manufactured wars? My friends think their children/spouses/siblings died in Iraq to protect us. How do you, or I or anyone else, tell them that is not at all the case? They don’t want to hear such things in the depths of their pain. None of us do.

Who wants to believe that our government manufactured terror against us, so that they could use it as a reason to continue the terror against us?

Yes, it is an awful thing. But until we can come to grips with it, we will continue to live in terror, and be victimized by it.

I don’t think she made a mistake when she confused Obama’s name. Again someone trying to tie those two names.

I’m guessing that Annie didn’t pick up on your tone here Aegrus. You should have added a curly cue or something.

Just after Bush invaded Iraq, for no good reason and with the blessing of far too many dems, I had my cable provider remove ALL the cable news channels.

However, while we were going through the hell of that particular period ... Bush selection, fascist attack in New York and DC, attack on Iraq ... I copied a lot, kept a lot and wrote down a lot.

Having learned the hard way CD’s disintegrate, and stuff on the computer can get lost in cyberspace, I have mountains of paper copies of a lot of stuff. But aside from the occassional blurb posted on web-sites, like here ... I never watch FOX!

Like you, I have better stuff to do with my time!

I suspect he does walk the paths of angels. Problem is, he doesn’t recognize who’s “angels” they are.

What’s that quote?

“Gently he will take your hand, and carefully lead you down to hell”

We see it happen every day, in every way to far too many well-meaning people. But when it happens to the slow of wit it is doubly dangerous! Both to them and those around them.

And that’s enough postulating for one day, I’d say

I find it interesting, no puzzling that you compare Rupert Murdoch and Lyndon LaRouche. Could you be thinking of someone else?

The two are as different as the sun and the moon!

Fascism is and has been on the march in this country for longer than it took to firmly develop in Europe, prior to WWII! Only we call it capitalism. Most of us don’t have a clue what capitalism is, or should be, but we face fascism every day and fail to see it. Another puzzle.

Ike warned us, and who would recognize it better than Ike?

In Germany today, young people ask their elders, how could you let that happen? Will our children’s children be asking us the same question?

How on earth did all these violent Mussolini-type fascists EVER get beyond the fringe?????

What kind of crazy society do we have that would allow a maniac like Rupert Murdoch, who’s no better than a Lyndon LaRouche, to become a major actor in our news delivery service?

How come nobody’s calling for these b@$t@rd$ who call for assassination to have it brought down on them?  It’s SO easy to call for somebody to be killed.  How would this bimbo like it if somebody prominent called for HER to be bumped off?

That’s a society of fascists and thugs.  Kill anyone who doesn’t agree with you.

And Murdoch hires these people and pays their salaries—and doesn’t fire them.

I’ll bet Ann Coulter is just seething at the fact that Liz got all this attention inadvertently.

Gee guys, I can’t believe you don’t see the cultural context of her statement. This is being taken out of context. She is just trying to express the idea of how she would like to see these two people killed. Obviously, she’s referencing the striking similarities between both individuals. What’s the big deal?

You Obamamaniacs are just pissed because it is a tough woman saying these words. Misogynists.

*Blinders off*... ouch, my head hurts.

Cyrena, who on EARTH wanted to believe that the WTC tragedy was an inside job? As more and more information came to light, and it appeared more and more likely that’s precisely what happened, I became more and more unwilling to believe that it “could happen here”. In spite of the evidence, and in spite of the non government experts who were compiling their very compelling argument, I simply could not bring myself around to believing it. I have no doubt that many many others felt the same way. http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com removed any naive doubts left to me.

The press says only what the gubmint allows-And if I
use the WRONG[i.e. politically INcorrect]words ON THE STREET-I CAN GET ARRESTED/FINED/JAILED…AMERIKA

Louise, I couldn’t agree with you more than I do. The vaguest notion that anything “produced” on any of the majors could in any way be considered unbiased reportage is just ludicrous. We are supposed to be living in the greatest most enlightened society on the planet. If that’s so, then why do I feel so sad and fearful of our future? How anybody that has even the most fundamental understanding of logic could be persuaded that the pablum that’s spun so diabolically on a nightly basis from FUX news or the other networks is truly an honest representation of the way things are in this country leaves me shaking my head with sadness and incomprehension.

Now, I’m worried that the Bush machine will do everything it can do to yet again steal the election. I just watched Hacking Democracy again, and hope America isn’t hoodwinked again by that moron who is so delusional that he considers he walks the path of the angels :(

This is great Louise! And, since I have to admit that I haven’t watched Fox news, (not intentionally at least) in over a decade, I only RECENTLY saw that clip of the dust free dude in the 9/11 scene, who just happened to know everything about how and why the WTC alleged collapsed from those alleged aircraft flying into them. (Tons more on the media and 9/11 in Barrie Zwicker’s “Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11”) Of course that includes the whole of them.

Anyway, I did download the clip of the dust free dude talking to the Reporter. He’s the guy that knew too much, considering how the action was still happening.

Oh, I should mention that in Zwicker’s book, he doesn’t cut any slack for the “Gatekeepers of the Left” either, including many scholars, including one of my favorite lefties, Noam Chomsky. I’m not so sure that they were as fooled by the media, or confused about the “Blowback” theory that they are willing to embrace as the reason for 9/11. I can actually understand them with the “Blowback” comprehension, because there is a valid and legitimate argument for that. It’s just that..well…it didn’t happen that way. Even if bin Laden and al-Qaeda WERE capable of such, and even if they thought about trying such a thing on their own, some other ‘entity’ obviously beat them to it, and used them as patsies in the process.

By the way, I have ever mentioned that 757’s cannot possibly do what they were claimed to have done on 9/11? Yeah, I think I have a few times.

But, the media sure as hell did a good job of making it look that way, and making a whole lot of people believe it, eh? And yep, it would seem like Fox is always at the cutting edge of media myth-making.

Yeh, this is pretty low, even for FOX, but the Worst Fox News Comment Ever?

Now that’s going some.

In fact, it is almost impossible to pinpoint the WORST FOX news comment. There have been so many.

One of my favorites was when news was being fed into the NETWORK from a local reporter in Florida informing the viewers about the machinations going on in the Bush camp in the lead-up to stop the LEGAL re-count ordered by the FLORIDA SUPREME COURT, which by the way was the shot in the ass that propelled Bush into the court of those other Supremes who had already committed to the oligarchy.

[None of which was reported, but we weren’t supposed to hear about the other either! It was supposed to appear to the stupid viewing public as though Bush had been forced to go to the Supremes, by illegal machinations from the Gore camp!]

Anyway as this news came streaming onto the screen, a concerned Ann Coulter expressed dismay. “Is this supposed to be getting to the public before we have a chance to spin it?” She asked someone.

Or maybe it was the FOX re-broadcast of Bush taking his first Oath of Office, where they managed to show massive tears streaming down his face where there had been none on the original, viewed live on c-span.

Then there has to be that live interview of the guy [dressed in dust free cap and shirt] who just happened to appear in front of the dust covered FOX reporter, ready to explain he had been on the street and witnessed both planes crashing into both towers [a monumental feat that remains to this day impossible to duplicate] and then went on to explain with authority how “due to structural failure they had both collapsed.”

Or perhaps it was the daily drumbeat of lie after lie repeated at the be-hest of the administration telling us about Saddam and bin-laden, and Saddams WMD. Or the glorious “Shock And Awe” fireside show widely advertised in advance, for the viewing pleasure of the public. But then those two have to be shared with ALL the major news networks.

I guess it really doesn’t matter, since the worst comment regarding FOX News is that so-called thinking people watch and accept it as news!

Now that is pretty awful!

Not sure why Straticus posted this in THIS spot, since it certainly didn’t have anything to do with my post.

However, I DO agree that CONTEXT is everything, and there aren’t too many people on this site who are Faux News watchers, and I think most of us are very appreciate of Amy Goodman and Link TV.

So, what’s your point Straticus?

Yeah, the comment from Trotta was off the charts, and most would and have agreed with that. So are we now in a pissing contest for who has made the WORST of the hate speech? Hillary or Liz Trotta. Is THAT what we’re deciding here? If so, then things have dipped low indeed.

As for uncensored and unfiltered journalism, I’d say that’s what this DOES represent, (at least this time) and that’s pretty much what has everybody in an uproar. Maybe they SHOULD have censored and/or filtered this comment from Liz Trotta.

As for the comments from Hillary, it’s too her disadvantage that those comments weren’t filtered or censored either. SHE MADE THEM, and while YOU may not have seen the video, and heard the words as she enunciated them, there are millions of other internet viewers who did. And the words, (unlike the sound bytes taken from 6 year old sermons made by Jeremiah Wright) were NOT ‘taken out of context.” We heard the ENTIRE remark.

So, don’t use the ‘context’ thing here, because while I agree that happens often, this was the whole enchilada, live and in living color Hillary.

THAT seems to be at least ONE of Hillary’s main campaign troubles. She’s not at all familiar with the 21st Century communications technology and the way it is used these days. So, as SOON AS Hillary made those comments, LIVE someone posted them to the Internet, BEFORE they could be censored, edited, or filtered. Isn’t that what you’re claiming you want? Guess it just depends on what’s being said, and who’s saying it, eh?

Oh my. Maybe you should have a hot toddy, and calm your nerves, and get some rest.

This is utterly ridiculous, and a further testament to the mindlessness with which the broadcast news in this country is filtered through special interests. Although I’m not a fan of Hillary Clinton’s, I don’t believe for a moment that she was pandering, or willfully intending to create a racist shit storm. Context is EVERYTHING, and I find it maddening that several words or a phrase are often extracted from an entire speech and those sound bytes suddenly become the entire focus. More smoke and mirrors. What I found tremendously ironic (and disgusting) was Liz Trotta’s remark. There she is, happily crucifying Clinton for opening her mouth only long enough to change feet, THEN she makes that horrific comparison to Osama Bin Laden. Is nobody listening??? How dare this cow laughingly suggest that BOTH Obama and Osama be taken out simultaneously? Is she entitled to freely speak her mind? Absolutely. The first amendment to our frayed and bleeding Constitution protects just that. However, first amendment rights come with a measure of responsibility. Not only was her remark FAR more offensive than anything Hillary said, but completely irresponsible. I’m rendered speechless, and seeing this clip only serves to remind me why I stopped watching broadcast news in favor of LINK TV. Bless you, Amy Goodman, and Bless you LINK TV for giving us uncensored, unfiltered journalism, something this once great country seems to have completely forgotten about.

...to fantasize about killing their presidents/possible presidents. I think Fox “News” has consistently proved itself to be a racist, fascist, anti-vegan channel, why on earth hasn’t it been pulled?

Free speech perhaps? BS. I don’t consider open calls for assassination (and that’s basically what that was) free speech. That’s hate speech—heck, it goes beyond hate speech, right there. Any leftie who dared even negatively comment on the “president”‘s pair of shoes would most assuredly be blacklisted and banished to some dark CIA hole hidden in Indonesia on suspicion of terrorism. Is this not terrorist!speak issuing from the lips of this Trotta person?

Oh wait, it’s only terrorist!speak when it’s some guy with dark skin and/or an arabic accent. White women in pant-suits are beyond this stuff. Silly me for forgetting…

This is utterly ridiculous, and a further testament to the mindlessness with which the broadcast news in this country is filtered through special interests. Although I’m not a fan of Hillary Clinton’s, I don’t believe for a moment that she was pandering, or willfully intending to create a racist shit storm. Context is EVERYTHING, and I find it maddening that several words or a phrase are often extracted from an entire speech and those sound bytes suddenly become the entire focus. More smoke and mirrors. What I found tremendously ironic (and disgusting) was Liz Trotta’s remark. There she is, happily crucifying Clinton for opening her mouth only long enough to change feet, THEN she makes that horrific comparison to Osama Bin Laden. Is nobody listening??? How dare this cow laughingly suggest that BOTH Obama and Osama be taken out simultaneously? Is she entitled to freely speak her mind? Absolutely. The first amendment to our frayed and bleeding Constitution protects just that. However, first amendment rights come with a measure of responsibility. Not only was her remark FAR more offensive than anything Hillary said, but completely irresponsible. I’m rendered speechless, and seeing this clip only serves to remind me why I stopped watching broadcast news in favor of LINK TV. Bless you, Amy Goodman, and Bless you LINK TV for giving us uncensored, unfiltered journalism, something this once great country seems to have completely forgotten about.

Chris writes:

“Odd too that self-described progressives fight as hard for Obama as they would have had to do for Edwards, Gravel or Kucinich who might have made some real difference for our country and our people.”

I’m not at all sure why you find this odd Chris, or why you already know what they ‘would have done’ more or less than Obama will do.

In the reality of it, progressives are fighting as hard as they would have for the others, because Obama is the only one left in the race other than Gravel, who has not made much of a dent in things. THAT’S why, and it would seem like a no-brainer to the average progressive.

You also don’t know that their positions on issues are the same, because that remains to be seen. For any of us who have paid any attention to these positions (from Obama) what we SEE, (and I’m not saying that I like it all that much) is a move on his part from further left, (of years back) to far closer to the center than I particularly prefer.

HOWEVER, unless he can display a flexibility that shows that he is able to consider all sides of an issue, he cannot gain the majority of the support that he needs to actually get into the office, and act on ANY of these issues.

So, it remains to be seen HOW Obama will attempt to service the needs of most of the American people, most of the time, which is the best that anyone can do.

That isn’t even close to his competition, including Hillary Clinton, who is the same as all the other repugs.

American people DO care about jobs, and they DO care about the availability of education, and health care, and a fairer tax structure that doesn’t continue to wipe out the middle class. We DO care about redoing this infrastructure that has been allowed to rot away while corporations take their obscene profits from it. And yes, we do care about repairing our relationships with the international community, because in a now globalized economy, we MUST get along with everyone else.

If you believe that to be the same as any other moderate conservative, then you haven’t been paying attention.

I guess I don’t have a sophisticated sense of humor. I believe in freedom of the press, also, so I tolerate Fascist News as part of the price for that. I just don’t think there is anything funny about making a remark about ‘knocking off’ a black man running for presidential office. I know that the idea originated with Hillbillary Clinton, who is playing the assination card in hopes to wipe up the blood and get the Democratic prize after some nutjob hearing her makes themselves the next Sirhan Sirhan, but I am not laughing about that either.

Come on, people. It’s a fad to wish Obama dead, and Billary got it started. Fascist News can laugh at the idea, and everyone shouldn’t get their shorts in a twist-consider the source and welcome the break in sound bytes of Rev Wright and deafening silence of Hagee’s admiration of Hitler and anti-Catholic remarks. Unfair and unbalanced slips about wanting a black candidate dead are supposed to be a ‘joke’. Oh, you don’t get it? I don’t either, but I chalk this entire network up to the price we pay for freedom of the press.

The idiot proves a point that I posted elsewhere: Hillary’s offense is not that she said the man could get killed; the offense is that what she said is on the mind of half the people in America - for various reasons and with different hopes and wants - but still on our minds. I found David Gergen’s point - a man from the middle of the middle if there is one - most refreshing on the bigger issue: She ought not want racist votes. The more general points should be: Nobody ought to want or to pursue votes from racists, and no country that has to accomodate them deserves the benefit of better government.

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I have a problem with underestimating the lack of decency in others.  I thought even the low-down Fox News would draw a line at assassination jokes.

If Hillary Clinton subtly insinuated the idea of assassinating Obama, this bloody filthy terrorist woman, namely Liz Trotto, speaking from the epicenter of racism and bigotry in America, known as Fox News, is expressing her wishful thinking in no subtle words.

And you call this democracy, freedom of speech, and journalism!

And I keep wondering, has America totally ran out of decent people who can publicly show the gentler more civilized face of America!

“I can’t believe even fox news would allow such a dangerous comment to air.”
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I agree with the essence of you comment. However, Fox News is the epicenter of bigotry, racism, and violence inciters in this country, so why surprised about Fox News allowing such a comment?!

That is truly a vile thing to say.  Jokingly suggesting Obama’s assassination would be a good thing is no joke.  Its a dangerous comment and should be considered criminal. This election has spun out of control.  Along with Hillary’s comments it seems that the door has been opened for some nut to take them up on their suggestion.  I am really stunned at the freak show this election has become.  I told my wife a few months back that a serious candidate who was black and had an unusual name would really expose the rotten underbelly of America.  Its turning out to be worse than I could imagine.  I can’t believe even fox news would allow such a dangerous comment to air.  We should all be ashamed of the low to which our country has sunk.

Join the other Fox clown O’Reilly. The networks seem bent on making their viewers as inane as their own talking heads. In the process the only source of intelligent and relevant news and discourse is the internet and a select few contributors such as the The Times of London; Haaretz, the Financial Times. Truthdig, Raw Story, Common Dreams, AntiWar, Asia Times, that come readily to mind.

The msm in the US except for a very few publications in line with the increasingly demeaning television socalled newsbroadcasts are contributing to the creation of mass imbecility.