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Clinton’s RFK Remark: Now in Video

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Posted on May 23, 2008
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Sen. Hillary Clinton has apologized for making a reference to the 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy during a Friday talk with editorial board members of the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader newspaper, explaining that her comment was intended to illustrate how the presidential nomination race isn’t over until it’s over. Here’s the clip from her Argus-Leader discussion in context.

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By Eric L. Prentis, May 26, 2008 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment
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Talk on TV, from other than Sen. Clinton, about killing Sen. Obama is getting way out of hand. FOX Contributor Liz Trotta called for the assassination of Sen. Obama as well as Osama bin Laden. This needs to be taken seriously, there are a lot of crazy people in the US with guns. The FBI needs to look into this despicable episode on FOX NEWS and charge Liz Trotta with making a death threat against Sen. Obama and terrorism. If we let this outrageous incident on FOX NEWS go there is no telling where it will end up, much better safe than sorry. The US cannot afford to be lax about the possibility of having our political leaders assassinated.

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By nrobi, May 26, 2008 at 4:42 am Link to this comment

Is this truly the person who should serve as president of the nation?  In the previous months of this campaign she has made mistake after mistake, and blamed it on either the people she appointed to the managerial positions of her campaign, or else blamed it on the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama. How in the H#$# is this supposed to be presidential?  Sen. Clinton, is out for one thing only, power for the sake of power. I, for one, said many months ago, that if forced to choose between Senators Clinton or Obama, I would have to choose Sen. Obama. The reasoning behind this, Sen. Clinton, has nothing more than her own desires and aspirations to make more money at her very core, she is not a person of integrity and character, but a person of short-minded convenience, who will govern by polling and “putting her finger into the wind.”  We have had enough of the decider and the previous administration, we need change and Sen. Barack Obama is the person who will bring the needed and necessary drive to the American people, this being a vision of a united and working government, one that cares for the lowliest citizen, and the top 1/2 of 1 per cent of those who have 90 per cent of the wealth of this country.

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By cyrena, May 26, 2008 at 12:01 am Link to this comment

Well Paracelsus,

I wasn’t there in ‘63, since I was only 10 years old then. I moved there from my home state back in ‘82, (after a stint in Chicago as well).

It seemed like a good idea at the time. My company had moved it’s headquarters there, and housing was reasonable, (if you were white, but I didn’t know that part at the time) so it just seemed like a good idea, if only because there were tons of jobs that I could investigate, and still be within the same structure. And, I was curious and adventuresome.

It didn’t turn out so hot. (well, the weather was miserably hot). So, let’s just say that it’s no place for a single and independently thinking woman, and specifically a woman of color. I didn’t have much in common with the folks there. The first and most important piece of information that anyone wanted to know when I met them was what CHURCH I attended. Well, that was a non-starter, since I didn’t attend ANY Church, and I wondered how THEY did either, unless they had 25 years seniority, because that’s what it took to get a Sunday off. (we bid work schedules by seniority). But, they managed I guess, between bible study and shift swaps, they somehow managed to spend lots of time there.


There IS actually a relatively small blue Oasis in the red, red, blood red dirt of Texas, and that’s in Austin. Austin is actually pretty close to being like a real place. On the other hand, it’s also like being in a bit of a bubble, because of the reality that it is surrounded by.

Dallas is as racist as any place else down there, but since it’s more ‘urban’ and metropolitan and all, it isn’t quite as noticeable unless you stray too far away from the larger crowd, or have to have any dealings with the police. Even if there’s no REASON to have any ‘dealings’ with them, they’re likely to make some reason for it. No doubt that’s where profiling began long before it became known as that.

Of course the politics have always been pretty awful, but one would expect that as a basically a-political person at the time, it wouldn’t have made much difference to me. But, it did to THEM. Like I said, no space there for independent thinkers, so you’re right, Ross Perot didn’t have a chance. On the other hand, Ross Perot was more than a little bit of an authoritarian himself, though one might not know that if they didn’t work for him. Considering that he was one of the largest employers IN Dallas and surrounding areas though, a lot of folks did. So, that could be part of the reason that he didn’t do so well there.

Besides that, the Bush Mafia was far, far more powerful. And yeah, the Mafia in Little Rock was and remains equally powerful. The odd thing, (or maybe it isn’t) is that the most ruthless and dangerous among them. (the old Clinton gang as well as the cabal the Cheney built) always somehow manage to stay out of the limelight, even while they pull ALL of the strings. That much hasn’t changed. Cheney is just that much MORE powerful now, with that much MORE money. (Like triple the annual income of GW and Laura) Lots of fights over that I hear…Barbara is ESPECIALLY pissed about it. She says Jr. is giving the family a bad name, and that Cheney has stolen all of his money.

Back when Katrina wiped out most of Southern Louisiana, and they FINALLY got around to getting some of the people bused out of there to the Dallas area, they ALREADY HAD dozens and dozens of buses lined up and waiting for them at Reunion Area, to GET THEM OUT OF TEXAS! (or at least Dallas..they didn’t want them THERE!)

Nope! I don’t miss anything about Texas. I’m grateful only for how much it made me appreciate my own home. I took it for granted growing up. After 17 years in Texas, (even with frequent ‘get-aways’) I’m still recoving from the trauma. It’s like I start getting anxiety attacks if I get too far from the Ocean, (like if I can’t SEE it) or hear a voice with a TX ‘accent’. Pretty sad, eh? wink

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By Paracelsus, May 25, 2008 at 10:07 pm Link to this comment

Tell us more about Dallas. I recall that there were several security vacuums occuring to JFK’s tours in ‘63. One was in Miami, Florida. I remember how shocked I was watching the Clinton Chronicles. Dallas would have been the perfect nexus for an operation. They could fly in operatives from Little Rock and Chicage. BTW, the Rodhams are big in the Dixie Mafia, and have roots in Chicago. I am not surprised that Ross Perot lost his nerve in ‘92.

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By magouche, May 25, 2008 at 8:39 pm Link to this comment

Well isn’t that a bit of a disadvantage for a future president?

She could have simply said: my husband’s and Bobby Kennedy’s campaigns - or the campaigns of any others - did not end until June either, and there would be nothing you could say about that.

But “off the top of her head”  she threw in the A word, not once but four times.

Sounds rehearsed to me.

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By cyrena, May 25, 2008 at 8:14 pm Link to this comment

I remember this incident in Dallas when Obama was there. “Federal Officals” giving orders to STOP ALL SCREENING!

In DALLAS TX of all flippin’ places!

(I lived there a long time…I know)

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By Paracelsus, May 24, 2008 at 6:13 pm Link to this comment

“According to the Dallas Star-Telegram, the Secret Service gave an order to stop screening for weapons for a full hour before the February 20 Barack Obama rally in Dallas. Metal detectors were turned off, and bags were not checked, as hundreds were allowed to file into Reunion Arena. This bizarre activity “ordered by federal officials,” was immediately reported by an alarmed Dallas Police Department, which knew that it was a “lapse in security.”“

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2990.shtml

Both the Clintons and the Bushes have body counts. I do remember how Huckabee repeat some line about, “Paul is dead.”
There is too much wild bird shot being thrown about to be overly dismissive of the possibilities. I do know that Hillary has Bilderberg connections. And I remember that Jimmy Carter had an assassination plotters named Ray LEE HARVEY, and OSVALDO Ortiz.

“On May 5th, 1979 an assassination attempt was made on then president Jimmy Carter. The two men arrested for the attempt were named Raymond Lee Harvey and Osvaldo Ortiz. The role of the men was to serve as a distraction by shooting blanks from a recovered revolver, while two separate hitmen carried out the actual assassination. Both men confessed to these rolls and gave the location of the hotel room in which the other assassins were staying. Despite the accuracy of their testimony and their description of the conspiracy, both men were released due to lack of evidence.”

http://tinwiki.org/wiki/Carter_Assassination_Attempt

I do remember FDR saying there are no accidents in politics.

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By dick, May 24, 2008 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment
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Friends of Hillary! Please keep this thing going. Use the old appology ploy, repeat it several times, for the next few weeks. It might help to mention the asasination of Dr. King as well. This is one of the best gimmicks Hillary has come up with. Keep it going. Thanks.

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By Mark Aster, May 24, 2008 at 5:53 am Link to this comment
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It appears to me to be exactly what Aegrus stated. Rhetoric is a delicate art and no, Sen. Clinton doesn’t have the Reaganesque ability to toss off empty, warm and fuzzy soundbites at the drop of a hat or boom mike.

Before Obama supporters or Hillary supporters get their delicate panties in a bunch, keep in mind that it was the rightist media, particularly the disgusting and trashier-than-the-National-Enquirer New York Post and Drudge that played this up. The lazy-assed national mainstream media ran with it, as well as every shallow, big mouthed “commentator” on all the talking head shows (and we haven’t even reached the Sunday morning crop of shows, yet). Again, we have what Edward Jay Epstein once called “news from nowhere.”

Senator Clinton’s real sin is not intimating harm to a fellow Solon, but instead not doing as Lincoln stated, thinking ten times before you speak once. She gave the Republican/News Corps media an inadvertent opportunity to further Democratic divisions.

And let’s not forget all the Republican intimations of harm, from Jesse Helm’s not-so-veiled remarks about Bill Clinton to the recent Huckabee “joke” at the NRA convention.

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By Muscleboy, May 24, 2008 at 12:57 am Link to this comment

The fact is Hillary was very clearly and simply stating that she was not only quite proper and well within her rights to continue running for president but that she had plenty of historical precedent in so doing.

It is just part of the defense industrial complex (CNN and MSNBC et al) to run dear Senator Clinton off the track of election victory, and in their minds assure a win for McCain.  They feel that despite the overwhelming sentiment against republicans; neocons; the war; George Bush and anything that supports George Bush; despite all this, McCain may win simply by appealing to the blue collar working folks who seem to be dead set against him—70 percent saying they would vote for McCain if Hillary doesn’t win the nomination.  The other way around Obama supporters would, in fact, support Hillary.

I think they are full of it and am convinced an allied Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket can and will massacre George W. Bush II (McCain)...

  This is a very very important time in our history we should stop the insane baseless trash throwing.

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By amt, May 23, 2008 at 9:22 pm Link to this comment
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Mentioning the possibility of assassination as an excuse to stay in the race is absurd! If the race were over and the party unified behind a candidate, the race would by necessity be reopened if the candidate were assassinated, and the second place candidate would be natural replacement if he/she had behaved in the campaign with integrity, honesty and fairness.

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By Don Stivers, May 23, 2008 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

Sort of like her quip about whites voting for her?  I was a college student in the next hotel celebrating his victory when he was shot.  It was an awful thing.  After that I became a repugnant Republican for fiscal reasons.  Now that is naive!  She is a politician like the rest of them.  I hate her not for her stupid remark but for voting to give an idiot the power to wage war and voting to continue funding the war of occupation.  We are hung up on gaffs or even STUPID remarks.  I am offended about the WAR of occupation that this country is engaged in.  I am offended that she talks about frying another country she knows nothing about or ignores the fact that this country has meddled in Iran’s affairs for DECADES.

I stand corrected Sullen Susy!!

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By Aegrus, May 23, 2008 at 7:50 pm Link to this comment

Come on, folks. Hillary can’t do interviews well at all. She’s having a real hard time right now, and let’s just get over this nonsense. It’s gaffe after gaffe. She just can’t talk off the top of her head unless it is explicitly about policy.

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By harpo, May 23, 2008 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment
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Did she apologize, or just express regret?

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By Sullen Susy, May 23, 2008 at 6:37 pm Link to this comment
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Nobody, and I mean nobody in good faith can assume that Hillary was implying that she might get shot. It is offensive not only to the Kennedy family, not only to the Obama family, but to the sensibility of the Democratic party. No one in the party (at least nobody I know) speaks about his death without trying to make some greater reference. So to believe that this was anything other than a calculated attempt to insinuate that which is truly unthinkable, is pure naivety…

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By omniadeo, May 23, 2008 at 6:00 pm Link to this comment

Tasteless as it might or might not be to mention the RFK assassination to make it, her real point seems to be that convention fights can go on until summer. The problem is that the reason it made sense in ‘68 was that the primaries were later. RFK had just won the CA primary which happened in June until this year. To make the comparison even less apt, the primary and caucus systems now prevalent in many states were actually put in place largely as a reaction to the ‘68 Dem convention where the entrenched political machines were able to choose a candidate who had supported the Vietnam War when the vast majority of voting Democrats opposed it. (The primary system has turned out even worse in many ways, but that is a different topic.) Clinton wants to return us to a similar machine politics, where the bigwigs pick. Of course really she couldn’t care less. She just wants to win and any argument that gets her there is fine with her.

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By cyrena, May 23, 2008 at 5:55 pm Link to this comment

It’s the constant lies and smears (including these) that put more weight to the assassination remark.

Latest lie ..already mentioned by Mayponce above..

“I’m ahead in the popular vote.” Not only would she have to INCLUDE MI and FL which were already ruled out before they ‘voted’ and where none of them campaigned, she’d also have to THROW OUT all of the caucas contests that Obama won, and only count the primary contests.

Then she’s back to her claim that ‘people’ have been trying to push her out since Iowa, and the innuendo is that it’s the Obama camp. She is just so full of shit. Granted, the media was doing a bit of a number on her after 11 straight losses, and even a few of her colleagues in the Senate were. It was NOT the Obama ‘camp’, and I’m just sick and tired of Hillary lying and threatening, and then whining and sniveling that it’s all because the big boys won’t let her play.

And, she finds it all so very ‘curious.’

I don’t. I know EXACTLY what she’s up to.

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By JulieKay, May 23, 2008 at 5:41 pm Link to this comment
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Hillary is a calculated person out to win the race for President at any cost, including helping John McCain win.  She can then say, “See I told you so.”

Hillary has repeatedly lied to the American people.  Why should we believe anything she says?

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By Mayponce, May 23, 2008 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

“I’m ahead in the popular vote…..”

Only if you count MI and FL where you weren’t supposed to campaign.

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By Don Stivers, May 23, 2008 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

Even though I cannot stand her, I don’t see that remark as offensive.  She is stating fact and she is determined to stay in the race.  It could go the other way too,she could be assassinated.  What is important is whether she is honest and stands for what the electorate wants.  Of course look who was elected twice by the citizens of this country.  Jeeeeeezus. Oh Lord, help us!  I said that almost 8 years ago too.

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