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Huckabee’s Major Misfire

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Posted on May 16, 2008
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Good thing Mike Huckabee isn’t in the running for the presidency anymore—he’d be hard-pressed to spin his way out of the truly horrific crack he made Friday at an NRA event in Louisville, Ky. That’s hardly important, considering the troubling implications of his failed joke, which called up the image of Democratic candidate Barack Obama being targeted by a gun-wielding assailant.


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By Harry Bridges, May 22, 2008 at 4:58 am Link to this comment
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Pick up a copy of Guns and Ammo to see what these NRA people are about.

What you’ll find is that they are getting ready for a war.  Half the ads are about military-style weapons you can buy, weapons that will deliver bursts of “hydraulic shockers” to your opponent (or victim?)

What war?  They don’t say.  But they aren’t dreaming of going to Iraq.  Think Mussolini’s march on Rome. 

Make no mistake.  These people are dangerous, and Huckabee’s remark taken in context is a red flag.

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By congressive, May 20, 2008 at 10:35 am Link to this comment
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Un-premeditated comments like Huckabee’s are the truth lying beneath the filtered surface.  Huckabee, and many, many people of his ilk, wish for someone to do as he joked.

Huckabee apologized AFTER he was exposed.  This is not an apology.  This is spin.

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By Ga, May 20, 2008 at 7:50 am Link to this comment

It is not the lack of common sense of NRA members (hillbilly or otherwise) that is the problem. The problem—the NRA’s fanatical ‘gunquest’—is due to the aggressive ignorance of our political “leaders” like McCain and Huckabee. And not all NRA members are “hillbillys” (which, out of context and loosly used can be termed a bigotted term).

(For McCain’s NRA speeches—just as horrible—see:
http://www.c-span.org/Search/basic.asp?BasicQueryText=nra mccain

Any lack of common sense among our populous—on both sides—is due to the basic American core “value” of not wanting to spend time studying issues, learning about the law (and the Constitution), understanding history, and keeping abreast of current events. Which would not be too bad except for the horrid, aggressive attitudes of the GOP, the Neocons and their right-wing “pundits” on the airwaves.

Well, then again, maybe it is the lack of common sense of NRA members… As I am reminded of many arguments heard after any tragic gun-related death that make the news which goes like, “Providing more guns to law-abiding citizens will reduce gun violence.”

For those who think that is a valid argument, I ask, which would be safer, a country with guns or a country without guns? Which would be safer, a country with gun limitations or a country where guns are easily available? Etc. etc. The other half of the problem with guns and the NRA is that nobody discusses these issues in a calm, reasonable manner. The gun lobby has successfully made this a binary issue based on fear and anger, successfully removing all reason from the public sphere.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, May 19, 2008 at 5:03 pm Link to this comment

He’s on PBS and has videos of his series.  I enjoy them very much.  I hope you can find them.

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By PatrickHenry, May 19, 2008 at 2:44 pm Link to this comment

He may just end up a target.

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By Jonnan, May 19, 2008 at 2:16 pm Link to this comment
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I hate to say it, but it looked to me that he was standing there and realized what he said as soon as he said it - there’s just a “I don’t believe I just said that” look on his face pretty close to instantly.

I disagree with Huckabee on a lot of issues, but for this?

I don’t even think it was a George Allen moment - Allen said something I think he actually thought was okay to people he felt comfortable saying it in front of, he just didn’t think about how it would look in front of others. Huckabee said something free associating, and made something that would have been a bad joke even if there was no context except being at an NRA convention, and then put it together what he had said into the actual context instantly, and apologized almost as fast.

That’s not a problem for me - other things are a problem for me, but not that.

Jonnan

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By Expat, May 19, 2008 at 5:26 am Link to this comment

^ I don’t watch TV; actually, I haven’t owned or watched one since ‘94.  Yes, we can get cable/satellite, but I’m not interested.  But thanks for the “link”, but I’d never heard of him before you mentioned his name; I checked it out on the I-net and yes, beautiful.  Thanks

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By Jack Ford, May 18, 2008 at 10:07 pm Link to this comment
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Huckabee has attempted to jump into the already-hot-and-intense campaign activities at the Democrats’ end.

Clinton has now taken West Virginia . Nevertheless, Kentucky, Oregon and Montana are still to come.

The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive and most likely to be decided by superdelegates If you haven’t done so yet, please write a message to each of your state’s superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com

If youre tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama

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By Fadel Abdallah, May 18, 2008 at 8:09 pm Link to this comment

Guess what? This deranged preacher turned politician wants badly to be in the White House, and he wanted to impress McCain to have him as his running mate for vice-president, insinuating through a joke that Obama can be easily removed through the power of a gun.

Is it a joke or a wishful thinking?!

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By Maani, May 18, 2008 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment

While there are plenty of reasons to find Huckabee’s comment repugnant, what really bothers me is that if you watch carefully, you will realize that this is a line he has obviously rehearsed: i.e., it was NOT spontaneous, which means it may not even be the first time he has used the line.

Sad.

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By Expat, May 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm Link to this comment

^ for me.  No problem.

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By magaphoto, May 18, 2008 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment

SCREEEEEEEEECH!  WAIT A MINUTE!

A “man of the cloth”, etc. ??????

He is a public figure standing on a podium with a microphone on his face, klieg lights and cameras around him at a convention center somewhere, and a verbal turd like that came (from his id) out of his mouth!

I wouldn’t trust him to blow his own nose much less… what?  Now he says oopsy, I wanna be Veep?

Someone should give him a quarter to call his momma to come pick him up.

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By truthreader13, May 18, 2008 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment
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More freedom and less regulations and interference
from the government is deceptively seductive, howerver that only will work if all the citizns have equal power and means and every one is honest in his dealings and compotent in his work.
But in actual real life less government and regulations will result in that the corporations and
the rich and powerful will run amock and exploit the
citizens and pollute the envirnment and sell shody
and sometimes dangerous products.


his work and dea

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By Thomas Billis, May 18, 2008 at 10:24 am Link to this comment

As Jesus said to his followers"I know I put the Glock in the cave somewhere.“What Bible do these people read?I thought it was” turn the other cheek” not “I am gonna cap your ass”.Huckabee’s statement can be only classified as a true Washington gaffe.Expressing what you truly beleive.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, May 18, 2008 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

Hey, expat, I didn’t mean to speak for you when I replied to Jeff.  Feel free to correct my comment.

BTW, I watched Rick Steve’s Europe and his visit to Portugal and the south, around Salema.  Beautiful!!

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, May 18, 2008 at 8:42 am Link to this comment

I think expat is one among us who doesn’t buy into theism.

But, even if Jesus as we’ve come to know him through xtianity is a myth, the fact is that people who profess Jesus’ teachings, myth or real, ought to be true to them.

I do recognize Huck may have spoken out of bad judgement, made a mistake, but still he appeared at that convention and spoke, something I think Jesus may have abhorred.

The religion thing has pretty much been convered at this sight and I didn’t mean to re-open it.  We should just let it go.

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By Jeff, May 18, 2008 at 8:25 am Link to this comment
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So what is the fairy tale that Huckabee represents?

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By Expat, May 18, 2008 at 5:54 am Link to this comment

^ a fairy tale, I guess anything goes; so they make it up as they go along.  Surely the word hypocracy is not in their vocabulary.  Talk about a mouth operating with out a functional brain…....

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, May 18, 2008 at 5:45 am Link to this comment

Huck is a man of the cloth.  We shouldn’t forget that.  What the hell is the man representing the “Prince of Peace” doing at an NRA convention and why the hell would it even enter his mind to say something as reprehessible and hypocritical as this?

Recent events have proven these holy people to not be very good representatives of their positon and beliefs and others should do their homework before they make a decision to continue or start a relationship with them.

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By cyrena, May 18, 2008 at 1:36 am Link to this comment

Lawlessone, they don’t think this is a good idea, (prventing crazies and terrorists for acquiring weapons) because the NRA represents the industry that profits enormously from the sales of weapons to anyone who will buy them.

So, when you say this..

“As a multiple gun owner myself, it still strikes me that common sense and logic ought to govern these issues.  Apparently, no one in the NRA has any.”

It’s only partly true. The hillbilly members don’t have any common sense or logic in these matters, including the ones who defiantly defended their ‘rights’ when they were conducting their lodge special raffle of some special model rifle a few days after the massacre at Virginia Tech. They just don’t get, (or don’t care) that innocent people are mowed down by crazies, when simple regulations like background checks are violated or non-existent.

As for the real movers and shakers of the NRA though, (the industry top dogs) they just don’t give a shit. The more they sell, the better it is. THEY remain well protected.

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By cyrena, May 18, 2008 at 1:28 am Link to this comment

I’m all for ‘forever changing this country’.

Huck would be right at home in Saudi Arabia. He’ll have to lose the accent though.

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By ApprxAm, May 17, 2008 at 9:24 pm Link to this comment

...that must be some of that good ol’ christian values and compassionate conservatism we’ve been waiting for. Or…

...you’d think he was bucking for vice president, you know, the position he said he didn’t want and the Wall Streeters don’t want him to have. Huck, you know that slot is going to a banker so stop the pandering and bad, tasteless jokes.

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By Juanjo, May 17, 2008 at 6:46 pm Link to this comment
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JimM,

Yes I know his real name.
Be part of changing America and do your own Goggle search. grin

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By Juanjo, May 17, 2008 at 6:30 pm Link to this comment
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This man is an American. A religious leader to boast.
Feel proud of him or forever change this country.

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By lawlessone, May 17, 2008 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment
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One of the many, many, many, many terrible things about McCain as President is that this very senior citizen is likely to pick a loose cannon (no pun intended) like Huckabee as Vice President and then die in office leaving the Jokster in charge.

By thes way, about the only regulation I have heard Obama uggest so far regarding guns is a tougher background check so nutcases and terrorists would have a marginally harder time to buy them openly.  Hasn’t anyone in the NRA, which sees itself as a supposed heroic bulwark against criminals and terrorists, stopped to think that might be a good idea to enact? 

For that matter, wouldn’t also restricting the sales of armor piercing 50 caliber sniper rifles capable of bringing down jetliners be a good idea.  As a multiple gun owner myself, it still strikes me that common sense and logic ought to govern these issues.  Apparently, no one in the NRA has any.

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By JimM, May 17, 2008 at 1:17 pm Link to this comment

Does anyone know what faker Charlton Heston’s real name is?

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By PatrickHenry, May 17, 2008 at 11:09 am Link to this comment

All non-profits, foundations and churches which meddle in political affairs which run contrary to tax paying citizens opinions should have to pay the entire gammut of federal, state and local taxes we the people have to pay.

Non Profit, what a misnomer.  Most of these NRA solicitors are paid, with the board of directors there and at most “non-profits” making six figures with numerous tax free perks, i.e. cars, gas, expense accounts.

They are thick in DC, contributing little to the public infrastructure but demanding alot from it.

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By cyrena, May 17, 2008 at 9:41 am Link to this comment

My sentiments exactly!!

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By dick, May 17, 2008 at 8:17 am Link to this comment
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What is frightening is that a dangerous religious fanatic, such as Huckabee and Hagee, have the full support of many millions of deluded followers. As Pascal said “Men never do evil so cheerfully and completely as when they do it from religious convictions”.

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By Trigger finger, May 17, 2008 at 4:54 am Link to this comment
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If ever there is a gun pointed toward Obama, huckabee should be the first SOB arrested and thrown in a secret prison for the duration of his worthless pathetic life.  What did anyone ever see in this fat ass creep?

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By George, May 17, 2008 at 2:46 am Link to this comment
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Candidate Mike Huckabee remained on the presidential race expecting a mistake from McCain. Well, I think Mr. Huckabee had his “macaca moment.” This blunder should disqualified him from holding any public office in the future.

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By Purple Girl, May 17, 2008 at 2:24 am Link to this comment

Sorry ‘preacher’ your choice of humor and the venue you chose reeks of Suspecion.
I have been a Anti NRA person for Decades. bu thave begun to realize I better change my views - considering it it one o fth eFew remains Rights we have left in this country.
However I have not changed my view Regarding the numerous Heretics who claim to be ‘men of God’- Their Doctrines of hate , Fear ,Self Idolization and Arrogance about their ordained Right to Judge (superceding and Insulting God) Leave me wondering Who they are Really Working for (“Could It Be Satan?”)
Add the two element together and you get a Deadly cocktail and the supporter of such meglomaniacs as McCain/ Hillary, Hagee/Parsely.All four are ready to being WW3 for their Own Gains (Rapture)
I’m a Michigander, and although- thank God - we do not have the High numbers of Extremeist as obviously WV- we have enough to know A ‘Joke’ from a Zealot like Huck(ster)Is all their little racist minds need to consider it a ‘Go Ahead”.these are the “lunatic Fringe’ our nation is plagued with- No differnt then the Taliban.Obama will never get their votes becasue they are Racist Redneck Hillbillies. Hillary’s suggestion they are a worthy segment to be catered to is Offensive ( And UnAmericaN).These are OUR national Terrorist Orgnaizations!
Huckabee has far more responsiblity than to merely ‘apologize’ He’d better start Wroking to Enlighten the Fanatical Segments of this society. We will not step backward to ‘Appease’ Them - it’s time they Catch Up, Embrace AmericaNs Rights & Freedoms for ALL- Or Get the Hell OUT- Move to the Middle East they have far more in common with you small minded Doctrines (and will welcome you ‘passive /aggressive’ method of deception towards the Jewish Community)!

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By weather, May 17, 2008 at 12:52 am Link to this comment
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Pay no attention to this small, defective soul and be happy he never went anywhere, because as we see there was absolutely nothing there to begin with.

Should anything happen to Obama there will be blood in the streets and this time it will start in Aspen, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Great Neck, Georgetown and so on.
Just when you thought it was safe on the back 9 at the club.

3rd-gen.Republican ashamed of the affiliation

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By Thomas Billis, May 16, 2008 at 10:51 pm Link to this comment

Hey what is a little laugh about a black man being shot at an NRA convention.Plenty of blackmen and boys and little girls have been shot dead because this abomination of an organization exists to protect these men with little peckers rights to kill things.Ha Ha Ha I hope the next big laugh I have is taking that gun from Charlton Heston’s cold dead fingers.His cold dead head died twenty years ago.

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By Fadel Abdallah, May 16, 2008 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment

Stupid tasteless joke, but with a heavy dose of wishful thinking behind it! Another white racist who could not control his bigotry!

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