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Posted on May 14, 2008
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Although John Edwards endorsed Barack Obama, he had plenty of nice things to say about “my friend and your friend, Sen. Hillary Clinton.” In fact, he began his endorsement speech with a plea for unity: “When this nomination battle is over—and it will be over soon—brothers and sisters, we must come together as Democrats.”

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By Sue Cook, May 16, 2008 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment

aegrus, just put a zipper in it will you.

Can’t we just all get along?

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By Lee, May 16, 2008 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

RE: Aegrus

The reasons Obama is ahead (slightly, and probably not in the popular vote) is not because he is the better candidate. It’s because he’s been coddled by the media, who never vetted him, because Opra, who built her fortune on the backs of middle aged white women, while still a member of the black liberation church of Jeremiah Wright, launched Obama ... because Obama outspent Hillary 2 or 3 to one ... because of caucus wins, which are virtually meaningless in a general election ... because he’s only gotten votes from 48 of the states (not 50 ... not 57) ... because he hasn’t had to win any of the vital ‘swing states’ in a primary ... because he hasn’t had to win the votes of hard working white - blue collar workers in a primary ... because voters didn’t hear about Jeremiah Wright, Ayers, Farakan, Rezko, and Michele, until we were way into the primary process, because the democratic party bosses, as well as the media, have undermined Hillary every step of the way, etc. etc etc.

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By Aegrus, May 16, 2008 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment

Now, isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?

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By Aegrus, May 16, 2008 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment

Lee, you’re refusal to look at issues is astounding. Not only this, it appears you don’t even keep up with the basic Associated Press reports, which would explain every damn thing about Florida and Michigan. Then, of course, you don’t even listen to Floridians or Michiganites, so why should I expect you or Sue to take information counter to your beliefs from anywhere?

Hillary Clinton is obviously not the best candidate because she lost. };>

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By Aegrus, May 16, 2008 at 12:54 pm Link to this comment

You’re as entitled to your opinion as I am, nonna. I say you’re being a selfish and petty person whose opinion is more like an aversion to a good candidate.

Which old Republican party are you referring to, by the way? The one from back in the days of Lincoln, or the one founded after WWII in order to undermine the working class through divisive politics?

John McCain is a blank slate. Once you pop the neo-conservative pill, you become an empty suit beholden to pure corporate fascism.

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By Lee, May 16, 2008 at 12:11 pm Link to this comment

RE: Nonna

Nonna, good for you for standing up to the likes of Jackpine Savage and Cyrenna, who arrogantly think that Truthdig is only for themselves and Obama.
They use condescension, sarcasm, accusations of racism, and an attitude of intimidation to further the one sided view of their clique. I agree that Hillary Clinton is the best candidate for President of the United States. She not only had a bird’s eye view of the Presidency for 8 years of peace and prosperity, she was also an experienced senator ... and, she has the guts to fight for what she believes in. You also have the right to vote for McCain, if Obama wins the nomination. Obama and the democratic party both circumvented Hillary’s attempts at a fair election, by stopping a revote in Michigan and Florida, which would give her a lead in the popular vote. Obamabots are cheating her out of a popular vote win, just like Bush cheated Al Gore out of a popular vote win.

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By nonna, May 16, 2008 at 9:55 am Link to this comment

Scare people? Act tough? Tow the line.  What is wrong with you people.  Are we not entitled to our own opinion?  This is America not Russia!

If you choose to believe that Obama is only person in the country who can save America go for it.  That is your privilege.  I disagree with you and that is my privilege.  I think he is going to be just as big a disaster as Bush and for the same reason.  Bush was the inferior candidate running then, but he became the chosen one on the basis of a “love in” by a large idealogical group of voters. 

Incidentally although I was a lifelong Democrat. I left the party as soon as I realized right from the beginning that Obama had been chosen by the Democratic brass as their anointed nominee. I rejected their choice and resented the way they disregarded Hillary. I am now an Independent.

If Hillary doesn’t win the race, I will then support McCain because I feel he is the next best qualified candidate.  My logic tells me that others running will not be able to get enough votes to beat Obama. 

Furthermore, I am not worried that Mcain will be another Bush.  I think he is more like the resurrection of the Old Republican Party.  That would be preferable to me than the NEW Democratic Party. 

Like it or not, that is my opinion and no I will not “Tow the line”.  Not for you or anyone else!!!!!!!!

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By nonna, May 16, 2008 at 9:52 am Link to this comment

Scare people? Act tough? Tow the line.  What is wrong with you people.  Are we not entitled to our own opinion?  This is America not Russia!

If you choose to believe that Obama is only person in the country who can save America go for it.  That is your privilege.  I disagree with you as that is my privilege.  I think he is going to be just as big a disaster as Bush and for the same reason.  Bush was the inferior candidate running then, but he became the chosen one on the basis of a “love in” by a large idealogical group of voters. 

Incidentally although I was a lifelong Democrat. I left the party as soon as I realized right from the beginning that Obama had been chosen by the Democratic brass as their anointed nominee. I rejected their choice and resented the way they disregarded Hillary. I am now an Independent.

If Hillary doesn’t win the race, I will then support McCain because I feel he is the next best qualified candidate.  My logic tells me that others running will not be able to get enough votes to beat Obama. 

Furthermore, I am not worried that Mcain will be another Bush.  I think he is more like the resurrection of the Old Republican Party.  That would be preferable to me than the NEW Democratic Party. 

Like it or not, that is my opinion and no I will not “Tow the line”.  Not for you or anyone else!!!!!!!!

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By Sue Cook, May 16, 2008 at 7:57 am Link to this comment

Cryena,
You really love yourself don’t you. You’re the type that likes to speak and write just to speak and write, but say nothing at all, except to show your negative, “emotional”, “vindictive” style about you.

What you just described in your post is YOU all over.  “It’s only about them and what they “feel”, with no logic or reason attached”.???

I doubt you even read my post at all or you couldn’t have written that quote with any conviction.

I think you just replied to “jackpine” to write, show your normal negative self like you do in all your posts, which shows your narrow-minded “mentality” when you simply don’t agree with what others say.

This my dear is an “open” post spot, everyone has their own opinions and let’s keep it at that without the negative name calling.

Are you a happy person?

I hope you have a better day. smile

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By Sue Cook, May 16, 2008 at 7:36 am Link to this comment

I never said I was voting for McCain. I was simply agreeing with “nonna” with her post of feeling the way she does like so many Hillary supporters do.

Just like Obama supporters feel.

I suggest you read my post to it’s entirety. I have a right to my opinion, just because you don’t agree with it, so what!

I also suggest that you just “chill-out”, take a pill.

Have a good day! smile

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By Inherit The Wind, May 15, 2008 at 7:48 pm Link to this comment

You could vote for Bob Barr, too, on the Libertarian ticket.

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By Inherit The Wind, May 15, 2008 at 7:47 pm Link to this comment

Or maybe he just doesn’t like hugging guys—ever think of that? That it’s just that simple.

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By carolyn, May 15, 2008 at 7:38 pm Link to this comment
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I sincerely hope all of you read this and we all need to pray that the DNC does not nominate Obama yet.  The chit is going to hit the fan very soon!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/genera_evelyn_p_080513_curtain_time_for_bar.htm

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By cyrena, May 15, 2008 at 6:43 pm Link to this comment

Well Jackpine, as a REAL democrat, I must sadly concur with what you’ve said here. These Women are NOT real democrats, nor are they even real liberals.

To say that they are stupid may be true, but I would say that the stupidy is less dangerous than what they really are…emotional and vindictive, and motivated by nothing more than an ideology that says that Hillary is the only choice. They lack ANY sort of objectivity, or any concern (or even recognition) of what is best for the whole. It’s only about them, and what they ‘feel’ with no logic or reason attached.

And, that’s what makes them scary. They are however, only ‘scary’ when their numbers allow for them to control the decisions that affect us all. (like the regime in place now).

It would not surprise me if they voted for McCain, because that’s the mentality behind this mindset. If I can’t have what I want, then nobody will have anything at all. If I’m going to be miserable because I didn’t get what I wanted, then everyone else can just be miserable with me. (I mean, that’s exactly what a vote for McCain would do).

We’ve been hearing from at least some of these people for a long time now on this site, and this is the mentality that all of their comments consistently signify.

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By Henry, May 15, 2008 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment
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In November it’s going to be a democratic house and senate and Mccain for pres. That seems like it will be alright.

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By jackpine savage, May 15, 2008 at 3:16 pm Link to this comment

What is this?  “I’m a lifelong Democrat…who’ll vote for McCain.” (or something to that effect)

If that’s the case then A. you’re not really a Democrat B. you’re not really a “liberal” and C. you’re out of your freakin’ minds.

You don’t want to vote for Obama?  Fine, there’s nothing wrong with that; it’s your choice after all.  But why, in God’s name, would you turn around and vote for a Republican?

You can vote for a third party you know…try it, you might like it.  The Greens are out there; Nader would love your vote; The World Workers Party usually fields presidential candidates (i voted for them in ‘96 over Clinton because they nominated women for president and vice president).

I’m not a Democrat, so i really don’t care if you “tow the line”.  And i don’t think any of these candidates will “fix” anything (most especially your precious Sen Clinton).

But either you’re trying to scare people and act tough…knowing that you won’t actually vote McCain.  Or you’re really, really, really stupid.

So vote for McCain, but don’t come crying to the rest of us when he appoints enough Supremes to overturn Roe v. Wade or does something else that offends your liberal sensibilities.

I swear, the only thing worse than a Democrat is a Republican…and every day the Dems are catching up.

P.S. You’re proving everything that the right wing media says about the Democratic Party true.

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By dihey, May 15, 2008 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment

This has to be the dumbest action of this dumb politician. Make no mistake, despite his sweet words he has further divided the already badly split Democratic Party, perhaps even permanently. Notice the date of his surrender: two days after Senator Clinton had pummeled Senator Obama in West Virginia. Furthermore: what percentage of his voters in the primaries and caucuses would have voted at that time for Senator Clinton? We will never know but that fraction cannot have been small. The stupidity of the Obama campaign is that they accepted Edwards’ support at this time. They should have begged him: wait until all the voting is over. Now Obama cannot deny the truth that he participated in ganging up on his opponent which he cannot knock out of the race in the regular way, that is to say by winning all primaries decisively.

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By jackpine savage, May 15, 2008 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

Um, i thought that it was Obama who says things like, “We need to be as careful getting out as we were careless going in.”  As opposed to Sen Clinton’s recent stump that she’ll withdraw immediately, regardless of the situation on the ground or what her military advisers say.

Maybe the talking points have changed, or maybe you’re spinning the truth into falsehood deliberately…?

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By nonna, May 15, 2008 at 2:29 pm Link to this comment

Aegrus….What on earth are you talking about?  The chaos will be in Iraq if we exit without a reasonable plan.  It seems that you are getting a little emotional about your candidate.  And who the H are you to tell me to tow the line.  Such hubris!!!!

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By Aegrus, May 15, 2008 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment

Hey now, now is the time to forgive and forget. She’s lost. adios muchacha, arrivederci, hasta maniana! She has served the party well, and played her part perfectly.

Only the brave know how to forgive; it is the most refined and generous pitch of virtue human nature can arrive at. Never forget that.

Tow the line!

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By Aegrus, May 15, 2008 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment

So, you’re candidate loses. That means Obama can’t get anything accomplished? Chaos because the better candidate won? Come down off your emotions and tow the line!

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By Aegrus, May 15, 2008 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment

Seeing how Obama has essentially won the Democratic nomination, I say he deserves the presidency.

Tow the line!

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By madsoul, May 15, 2008 at 11:21 am Link to this comment
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you have to defend hillary for political reasons but in reality she is really despicable and not worthy of praise…at all. she really is just like a Bush-lite. She represents the (stupid) republican faction of the dems, the kind of dem that let bush ravage this country and said nothing. do not forgive hillary, not if you care about your soul.

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By Sue Cook, May 15, 2008 at 11:15 am Link to this comment

I know how you feel, most Hillary supporters do too!

My problem with Barack Obama has nothing to do with race, as him being deserving of the job of the highest office of the land.  He’s a rookie.

I’m a woman voting for Hillary for two reasons:

One being that she is deserving, experienced and more qualified for the job in my view.

The other, and important for me anyways, is that she is a woman fighting against seemingly inpenetrable odds in a still “man’s” world society.

If ever there was a time for a woman president, it is now, and I was hoping Hillary would break through the “glass ceiling” of the “mans world mentality” and be a surrogate for all woman who has been too frightened, or weak to follow their dream, their careers, even if it’s labeled as “a mans’s job”.

She’s super stong, I admire her tenacity, perserverance and true grit. They are spectacular!

I applaud her efforts. I know I couldn’t have done what she has accomplished.

She is still going because of supporters like us who are holding out hope that she will prevail.

But you know something?  Even if she don’t win the presidency, she will have won in this march in more ways than one!

Stand and be proud of her, I am!

GO HILLARY!, GO WOMAN POWER!  and remember…(where there’s a strong man, there’s a stronger woman!) smile

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By nonna, May 15, 2008 at 11:05 am Link to this comment

I don’t like this war either but it is illogical to think that Obama would not find out after he is in the white house that he cannot accomplish what he now proposes.  He is whistling dixie if he thinks he can.  What do you think will happen in Iraq if we withdraw too quickly. According to the military it is not possible to withdraw as Obama proposes and not have complete chaos.

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By nonna, May 15, 2008 at 11:01 am Link to this comment

I don’t like this war either but it is illogical to think that Obama would not find out after he is in the white house that he cannot accomplish what he now proposes.  He is whistling dixie if he thinks he can.  What do you think will happen in Iraq if we withdraw too quickly.  Can you imagine the chaos?

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By nonna, May 15, 2008 at 10:59 am Link to this comment

I don’t like this war either but it is illogical to think that Obama would not find out after he is in the white house that he cannot accomplish what he now proposes.  He is whistling dixie if he thinks he can.  What do you think will happen in Iraq if we withdraw too quickly.  Again I repeat…I trust McCain’s judgment, experience and knowledge of government and how it works over an inexperience disingenuous gutless wonder who is all is words.

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By Sue Cook, May 15, 2008 at 10:31 am Link to this comment

I agree.  Why did he wait so long? Why not after Feb. 5th when it would have mattered more?
This didn’t happen overnight, but very well timed.
He isn’t doing it so much to unite the party for the people, but the political clout that comes with having bargaining chips. He needed to be sure that one of them has secured the nomination before spending this clout prematurely.
They all do it. That’s why there are endorsements.  Some endorse with the idea of carrying their resume with them in the future. You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours type thing.

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By Aegrus, May 15, 2008 at 10:20 am Link to this comment

So, you want to send thousands more American soldiers to their death? That’s what a vote for McCain is.

You want to enable more corporate insurance oppression on the average American’s health, well-being and financial freedom? That’s what a vote for John McCain is.

nonna, your whole position right now tells me you’re okay with endless war and economic depression. Legalized murder and corporate fascism. That’s what you’re vote will be.

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By Aegrus, May 15, 2008 at 10:16 am Link to this comment

$400 hair cuts? You’re really going to bring that up again? Are you aware every candidate spends obscene amounts of money on their hair? People in the government spend lots of money, and get even more for free. He’s not ‘working class’ anymore, but at least he isn’t a trust-fund child like your idol King George.

The only person without substance or character in this dialog is you.

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By nonna, May 15, 2008 at 9:03 am Link to this comment

I am Hillary supporter who will indeed vote for McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee.  I don’t believe that McCain is another Bush and I trust his experience and knowledge of government over an inexperienced, disingenuous, gutless wonder who is afraid to face people who are not “like him” i.e WV voters.

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By nonna, May 15, 2008 at 8:52 am Link to this comment

I was struck by the embrace between Obama and Edwards.  Edwards appeared to be uncomfortable with the embrace and held back.  Should we infer then that he is racist?  Perhaps he just might be a little anxious about Obama as the nominee and he is doing this strictly to unite the party.  Isn’t this what is expected of Hillary after the nomination is handed to Obama?  What a bunch of hypocrites. That is why I will vote for McCain.  He is not “Bush lite”. He’s his own man and we will all see that when he becomes the next President.  I think Hillary is the most qualified candidate but it is obvious that the Democratic Brass has other ideas which may lead to them losing the White House again.

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By Lee, May 15, 2008 at 8:01 am Link to this comment

What a hypocrite ... does he actually expect us to believe his commitment to poverty, when in reality he flaunts his huge multi-kazillion dollar compound
(house) directly across the street from poor people ... not to mention his $400 hair cuts, which could feed a family of four for four weeks! Then he waits till Obama is way in the lead, before endorsing him. What weak character ... or, rather lack of character. I doubt his endorsement has any value ... and, anybody who values his endorsement, doesn’t have any values.

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By cyrena, May 15, 2008 at 2:55 am Link to this comment

Fadel, I agree. And, I’ve been thinking this for a very long time. As much as I appreciate Kucinich, (and I do…I believe that he is another TRUE Democrat) I have for months hoped that an Obama/Edwards ticket would emerge. I’d be OK with it either way, (Edwards/Obama) but I like that Obama is heading it up. There’s no denying that he has built quite a movement, and has funneled the wind of it. There’s no denying that Edwards balances with it very well.


I think the thing that we will hopefully see (more of us that is, and soon) is that this CHANGE - this very DESPERATELY NEEDED CHANGE, has already occured, and I believe we need to give Barack Obama the full credit for that.

I was at a lecture this evening, presented by a very experienced and overwhelmingly effective politician, Willie Brown. One of the things that he so very well emphasized that I have been so awed by myself is the phenomenal NUMBERS of Americans joining in the process of governing ourselves.

I’m not sure that this has really ‘registered’ with enough of us so far, because many of us are very accustomed to the old way of politics, and so it could take a bit more time to actually absorb this change for the tremendous GOOD that it signifies. He made the comment (which I also strongly agree with) that a more participatory constituency makes for higher quality and more effective representatives. In other words, when our elected officials/representatives are actually having to answer to a MAJORITY of the constituency, and not the MINORITY that have historically empowered them, they have to do a better job.

As I’ve said, I’ve noticed it for months, and after Super Tuesday, it simply could not be ignored. The numbers of people joining this process can ONLY be positive. Right here in my own very small community, (because it IS a small community) the numbers nearly doubled in people voting in the primaries. Now maybe we can give some of that ‘credit’ to the current regime of the past 8 years. At least that’s crossed my mind. Because, that’s how bad things have become in America.  Americans DO understand that much! Americans DO understand that we’ve been heading toward our demise for a long while now, and there is no other CHOICE than to embrace change, and to embrace it with full force, and the force of UNITY. We know how far we DON’T get, in such a divided space.

John Edwards is not new to this at all. He’s consistently made this his platform and that’s why I’ve always believed that they would be such an excellent team. This was a very powerful speech that he presented today, and I’m hoping that the rest of us are up to the task.

As someone else mentioned, there is no guarantee that Edwards will be the choice for running mate, but I personally would like to see that.

Meantime, what’s up with Al Gore? He’s got some work to do now as well. He doesn’t have to take office if he doesn’t want to. (and he may not, and I don’t blame him). BUT, he owes us an endorsement at this point. We need to get on with it. There’s still tons of work to do, and armor to design and craft for all of our candidates so they can escape the bullets from the repugs. They’ll have more dirty tricks than the devil himself/herself/itself. But, they still won’t win. Even they know they’re in trouble.

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By cyrena, May 15, 2008 at 2:23 am Link to this comment

You said it all here Johnathan. Yep…you said it all.

I can add my own thoughts to anyone who claims to be a Democrat, and would not support the democratic nominee, and vote instead for McSame, has never really been a democrat anyway. That mentality is not of the mentality of true Democrats. So yep…they should just get to changing their offical affiliation right now.

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By Jonathan Herndon , Va, May 14, 2008 at 10:49 pm Link to this comment
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Democrats who say that if Clinton doesnt win the primary they will vote for Mccain, are contradictary. Democrats need to unite and vote for whoever wins the party nomination. If you all would rather sit through four or possibly eight more years of republican forigen policy and domestic economic decisions, than have a fresh democratic leader in the white house with new and possibly revolutionary ideas and policies than you should just change your party affiliation now.

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By Purple Girl, May 14, 2008 at 7:21 pm Link to this comment

Granted the are a mess load of useless Dems in Congress (and at the state levels) But there has been a trend in the Democracti party that has caused me to wonder at times if the ‘D’ next to a Politicians name was not a media ‘oops’.Then I found a list of Members of the DLC- Now I know where that oxymoron term ‘ReaganDemocrat’ came from (No REAL DEM would allow themselve to be affliated with that Regime Either- Union Busters).so it all becomes rather clear the DLC is the Blue arm of the Neo CONS.That Expalins Hillary and LIEberman and so many more (But not all- must be trying to become member or preferr to work solo as covert operatives- Pelosi,Reid,Levin (got a seeter deal elsewhere, certianly not with US)
So it appears some of th eDLC ahve come to realize the Base will never put them in Office -Edwards,Kerry- time to let your membership lapse if you want a political career with the Power of the Old School Dems ( Jobs, Equal rights,education, healthcare and Return of our Rights from the Grip of the Corps!)Pyramids are built from the ground Up- the BASE.
Anytime any other Dem wants to assure they are not viewed with suspecion It’s time to give the endorsement to the NON DLC candidate WE have chosen, time and judgement is Ticking- IT’S NOW OR NEVER will you be in Public Life again…Gore.You are only polically relevant IF WE Deem You so!

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By Fadel Abdallah, May 14, 2008 at 7:10 pm Link to this comment

I believe that John Edwards is the best vice-president Obama can have. They together will make a wonderful team for real change, I hope!

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By Aegrus, May 14, 2008 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment

His voice was a little hoarse in the beginning, but he ended the speech very well. We will have unity. I don’t care how much emotion is involved in the campaign now. Democrats will be united in the GE. Believe in it, and make it happen.

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