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Howard Dean: ‘We’re Gonna Win’Posted on May 2, 2008
The man who made his mark on the last presidential election cycle with his campaign-sinking scream, DNC Chairman Howard Dean, was the bearer of good predictions for Democrats on Thursday’s “Daily Show.” He explained the super-cryptic superdelegate system, the controversial notion of “electability” and what it’s like to be the candidate who missed out in ‘04 for “saying boo-ya at the wrong time.” Watch the clip:
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By cann4ing, May 11, 2008 at 9:45 am Link to this comment
Jim Truth. I served in Vietnam. That fact does not entitle me to hold public office and it does not make me a hero. The fact that McCain was shot down while dropping bombs on the North Vietnamese does not make him a hero.
McCain’s refusal to extend to Iraq/Afghanistan vets the same educational benefits that were available to both McCain and I when we returned from Vietnam smacks of hypocrisy and betrayal.
On policy, your hero McCain offers us only perpetual war and economic disaster. He is to the right of Dick Cheney on foreign policy and as clueless as Herbert Hoover on economics. His “surrender” rhetoric is an abomination. We had neither the right nor a lawful reason to invade Iraq in the first place. The reasons for this war were spelled out by the neocons in their Project for a New American Century—the creation and maintenance of a permanent base of operations in the oil rich Middle East. This war of choice was never intended to benefit the American public; imperial conquest never is. It is intended to further enrich the billionaire class whose money-grubbing mitts reach deep into the public trough—specifically, it is intended to benefit the military-industrial complex, KBR, Blackwater and other war profiteers, plus the oil cartel which has experienced a 300% increase in profits since we invaded—an oil cartel that despite record profits was handed some $14 billion in subsidies before the Republicans lost control of Congress.
According to Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel prize winning economist, the Iraq war has already cost this nation $3 trillion, and your “hero” McCain would have us remain for 100 years.
There are only two valid descriptors for supporting McCain—idiocy and insanity!
Report thisBy Jim Truth, May 10, 2008 at 10:43 am Link to this comment
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I’m not a McCain fan per say, but I can’t help but notice that your case against him is nothing but personal attacks. Do you really care that his first marriage didn’t work out? And so called hero. Let me tell you, it may not qualify him to be President, but I certainly think the man is a hero.
I think you should stick with political facts, i.e., McCain/Feinstein, etc. Personal attacks take away your credibility.
Report thisBy Conservative Yankee, May 6, 2008 at 4:11 pm Link to this comment
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Your post above illustrates EXACTLY my point! We have traveled different paths, and seen the world through different lenses. My experience in the early Seventies working at the big VA in Millington New Jersey informed me that Nixon, LBJ and Ford didn’t give a rat’s ass about our vets AFTER they couldn’t aim a gun. You could smell the VA at Togas in Maine half a mile away, and my best friend, wounded in a “non-combat accident” was discharged “honorably” and left to fend for himself, you may meet him if you wish, He’s now 57 and each day he stands at the white plains New York main station “greeting arrivals” and spare-changing the commuters, he’s been doing that for the last 30 years!!
As an aside none of this would have been necessary if LBJ had not lied to get the Tonkin Gulf Resolution passed.
Oh, BTW there were “war profiteers” then too! Remember Dow Chemical… My buddy does!
No, I don’t trust the Democrats…
Report thisBy cann4ing, May 6, 2008 at 9:59 am Link to this comment
Say what you want about LBJ, Nixon and the disaster that was Vietnam. At least they didn’t betray vets by denying them GI Bill education benefits upon returning from multiple tours of duty. Bush/McCain have no problem asking for yet another $178 billion supplemental to fund the imperial conquest of Iraq, most of which goes to KBR, Blackwater and the other war profiteers, but both are opposing Jim Webb’s GI Bill that would provide between $2.4 billion and $4 bill in education benefits for returning Iraq & Afghan vets—something that was available for both John McCain and I when we returned from Vietnam. In my case, those benefits were vital and assisted me through college and into the first year of law school. For McCain, who dumped his first wife to marry an heiress, to run on his so-called hero status as a former POW while at the same time opposing such a basic benefit for the working class stiffs who have served is beyond hypocrisy and truly embodies chutzpah.
Report thisBy cann4ing, May 6, 2008 at 7:59 am Link to this comment
Hmmmm! Looks like Howard Dean neglected to send the “Democrats don’t appeal to hate and divisiveness” memo to the Clintons.
Report thisBy Conservative Yankee, May 6, 2008 at 5:10 am Link to this comment
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By Ernest Canning, May 5 at 9:08 pm #
Sorry, CY, but this ranks as your worst post, ever!
Well, as I said we disagree. You trust the Democrats. I do not trust either party. You believe the Democrats will “unravel this mess” I believe that they will use the mess to their advantage.
I remember LBJ and his veto-proof majority” I was not impressed, you obviously were.
My worst post ever was one in which I misspelled a half a dozen words… since then, I check first!
All either of us can do is advocate our positions, vote, and wait to see the outcome.. I see a rough time ahead, no matter who “wins”
Frankly, I wouldn’t want the job of “janitor” in the next administration.
Report thisBy cyrena, May 6, 2008 at 3:25 am Link to this comment
Dean: GOP Uses “Hate” and “Race Baiting” to Win
By Klaus Marre
The Hill
Sunday 04 May 2008
Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said Sunday that Republicans are using “hate and divisiveness” to win elections.
Dean argued that the use of Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) former pastor Jeremiah Wright in GOP ads in local races is “race baiting.”
“When you start bringing up things that have nothing to do with the candidate and nothing to do with the issues, that’s race baiting,” Dean said on Fox News Sunday in response to a question whether the Wright issue and his ties to Obama hurt Democrats down ticket.
“There’s a lot of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats on issues, but the biggest issue of all is we don’t use this kind of stuff. We never have used this kind of stuff, and we’re not going to start now,” said the DNC chairman. “America is more important than the Republican Party, and that’s the lesson that the voters are about to teach the Republicans.”
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050508N.shtml
Report thisBy cann4ing, May 5, 2008 at 10:17 pm Link to this comment
Let me add to that last post. It is going to take a democratic pres and a veto-proof majority in Congress to unravel the damage done to the rule of law over the past eight years, starting with a repeal of the abomination known as the Military Commissions Act of 2006 which granted an immunity for all crimes committed by Bush administration officials in service of the so-called war on terror. McCain is to the right of Dick Cheney on foreign policy and as clueless as Herbert Hoover when it comes to the economy. Given the serious damage done to the very concept of separation of powers by the Bush regime and the now four Federalist Society jurists now on the Supreme Court—all of whom subscribe to the radically subversive “Unitary Executive theory” that is behind the more than 800 presidential signing statements that assert a president can essentially pick and choose which portions of a law he will enforce—in direct violation of both the Constitution and the oath of office which mandates that the executive enforce the law—a McCain presidency portends to permanent war, an economic collapse that will make the Great Depression look like a picnic, and, through one more Federalist Society appointment to the Supreme Court (making a majority of five), the end to the rule of law as we know it.
You have made some astute observations at Truthdig, but your statement that you would vote Mad Dog McCain into the presidency is, with all due respect, incredibly stupid. Sorry if that offends you, but it is how I see it.
Report thisBy cann4ing, May 5, 2008 at 10:08 pm Link to this comment
Sorry, CY, but this ranks as your worst post, ever!
Report thisBy kanaschwiiz, May 5, 2008 at 2:57 pm Link to this comment
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Very frustrating - a chance for the Democratic Chairman to explain a few things but each question was just a set up for JS to deliver a punch-line.
Report thisThe press keeps avoiding the story of how Michigan and Florida “lost” their delegates (like somehow someone stole them to an undemocratic) and here we missed a chance to hear the story.
And JS keeps insinuating the Dean is unable to get a grip on it. He just couldn’t have an intelligent conversation over the interrupting.
By Conservative Yankee, May 5, 2008 at 2:20 pm Link to this comment
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I don’t want ANYONE or any party with that much power. Veto-proof majorities got us into Vietnam, position as “policeman to the world” and arguably into the position we are in now when people got tired of self-serving Democrats telling them where to crap.
Rose-colored-glasses don’t hide the House banking scandal, the The debauchery of the house page incidents (of the 80’s) The corruption of the Democratic Leadership council, Wilbur Mills, “Harrison A. Williams Jr, Gerry Studds, Daniel David Rostenkowski, Charles Coles Diggs, Frank Thompson, Jr, Michael Joseph Myers, John Michael Murphy, John Wilson Jenrette, Jr, Mario Biaggi, Nicholas Mavroules,and too many others to count.
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely!
which is why I’m voting for John McCain…with a Democratic majority maybe nothing will happen… that is always good for citizens!
Report thisBy cann4ing, May 5, 2008 at 9:12 am Link to this comment
You and I will have to disagree on this one, CY. Once the Dem nomination process is over, the winner (probably Obama) will be in a position to begin dismantling the media-concocted veil shielding McCain; to demonstrate that McCain is to the right of Dick Cheney on foreign policy and as clueless and Herbert Hoover on economics. As the 80% figure in the polls indicate, the vast majority of Americans have come to understand that, with Bush/Cheney at the helm, the U.S. ship of state is the Titanic, heading straight for an iceberg. There are a lot of die-hard Hillary supporters who “tell” the pollsters “now” that they would not vote for Obama, but when the time comes and they have the choice between Obama and a continuing a course toward certain disaster, they will chose Obama. This will not merely be a Democratic victory but a landslide, that may well secure a veto-proof Senate.
Report thisBy Conservative Yankee, May 4, 2008 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment
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The Dems have a habit of pulling defeat from the jaws of victory, and the electoral map still favors the Republicans.
Report thisBy cann4ing, May 4, 2008 at 7:39 am Link to this comment
Lighten up, GS. Stewart is a comedian. O’Reilly is a propagandist. Stewart interrupts when he thinks of something that will bring out a laugh. O’Reilly tries to dominate an interview and steer it only in the direction that he believes will reinforce the Republi-puke talking point of the day.
The difference is O’Reilly wants people to think O’Reilly is serious about what he says. John Stewart knows that most of his audience knows that he is simply being flippant.
Report thisBy Margaret Currey, May 3, 2008 at 2:38 pm Link to this comment
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You can bet that there will be a Democrat in the White House, weather it will be Clinton orObama remains to be seen.
I am thinking that Obama will be the one but we will know on election night.
Report thisBy Aegrus, May 3, 2008 at 10:10 am Link to this comment
Dean knows what’s up. No matter what these Republicans try to do, Progressive Democrats will overcome because it doesn’t stop with this election. We need to get active in our Democratic chapters and push influence towards progressive policy! Let’s get single-payer health care! Let’s get common-sense law and sustainable agriculture! End the drug war! Bring our troops HOME!
Report thisBy great_satan, May 3, 2008 at 6:59 am Link to this comment
Stewart pissed me off in this interview. Compare it with the Newt Gingrich interview the other day.
Report thisI swear his stye of interuption..asking a question, then not letting the guest answer, is WORSE than O’Reilly! (Is he trying to immulate Colbert, who has usurped his glory?)
In fact, Stewart’s shouting style (like some bogus impersonator of Jerry Stiller) is his whole routine, now.
Daily Show has jumped the shark!!
Maybe let another of the cast take the helm, and put Johnny to pasture.
By cyrena, May 2, 2008 at 6:36 pm Link to this comment
Good point on the fact that the Dems have been able to run an election before the election in 48 states, having accomplished an unprecedented voter turn-out and registration, DESPITE the efforts of the Cabal in conjuction with the US Supreme Court in their attempts to disenfranchise millions that would vote for the democratic nominee.
The repugs don’t have that advantage, (how many states have they actually campaigned in) and since old ass John is the last one standing, we know he can’t possibly cover them all in 6 months, even if he DID have something to offer.
The down side of course, is that Hillary is doing his campaigning for him. I bet he chooses her as his running mate, to run against Obama and whomever WE choose as his running mate in the general election.
The end result though, is that the Democrats will still win. (the real ones that is)
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